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| Indoctrination: or How to Start a Holy War. [message #72632] |
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gene Lennon[3]
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Sorry – I can’t help myself.
I assume we all think that schools in the Middle East where children are
indoctrinated with anti-western ideas mixed with big dose of religious zeal
and combined with preaching the virtues of martyrdom are a bad thing… right?
Gene
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| Re: Indoctrination: or How to Start a Holy War. [message #72677 is a reply to message #72674] |
Tue, 19 September 2006 06:21  |
dc[3]
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First, if the jihadis were as loudly condemned by Muslims as the
crowd you list below are condemned by Christians, we would have
a more peaceful world, wouldn't we?
I did live sound for a group once that had a bunch of little kids so
worked up with a witches brew of extreme patriotism and emotional
faith that several kids fainted. The bigshot who ran the event
actually yelled at me "LOUDER LOUDER". Today, I would power
down and walk away from such an event and tell them to keep their
damn money. These people are essentially atheists in that they
nearly zero faith in God to convict people and win them over, so
they must do it themselves with blubbering and manipulation.
But why do you guys need to lie about it? They weren't worshipping
to Bush, they were *praying* for him! Don't you think he NEEDS
it??
I abhor the connecting of faith to ultra-patriotism, because
the govt. is so fallible and may betray us at any time. God is not
fallible, and faith and country should never be conflated.
So, yeah, Gene, there are extremists, but what I want to know is
why you lie about them and accept lies about Christians so easily?
You apprently hate Christians much more than Muslims, since your
criticisms are only pointed at Christians.
C'mon, let's hear you have a go at the Muslims for a bit!
Need some websites? movies? comedy? Think there is a lack of
evidence of the evil they have planned for you and yours, and have
been acting on for 30 years now?
Are you unable to criticize Muslims? Have you drunken the liberal
kool-aid?
expiring minds want to know!
DC
"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>How about Fred Phelps, or some of the Christian/Skinheads, or abortion bombers?
>Are you completely unwilling to admit that there are some extremists in
the
>Christian movement?
>Talk about “come on”.
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>Gene
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| Re: Indoctrination: or How to Start a Holy War. [message #72686 is a reply to message #72677] |
Tue, 19 September 2006 07:01 |
gene lennon
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"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>Are you unable to criticize Muslims? Have you drunken the liberal
>kool-aid?
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>expiring minds want to know!
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>DC
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I posted the link about Becky Fischer for a specific reason. It was not to
embarrass or criticize any true believers, but to point out that some extremists
exist on the Christian side. My Point?
It is unfair to paint the modern Christian movement with the brush of Becky
Fischer, or Fred Phelps. The Christian movement may have a few extremists,
but they do not represent the majority of good people following the Christian
cause. Funny, because that is the exact point I am also trying to make about
the modern Moslem movement, which is not just a bunch of knife wielding maniacs.
It is largely a mixture of fundamentalists combined with many who want to
see more progressive reform in the Moslem church.
Of the over one billion Moslems in the world today perhaps 1% are extremist
to the point of violence. That’s still a large and dangerous number. It only
takes one with a WMD to cause great harm. But what about the 99%?
I am still waiting for someone to answer my question about what we should
do if we suffer a major attack and a Moslem extremist group takes credit.
Should we kill 1,000,000 people? How about 1,000,000,000?
I do condemn Moslem radical violence . Killing a Nun because of what the
Pope said is unconscionable but it is not all Moslems.
P.S. Please point out my lies. I may be delusional, but I think I am trying
to bring some balance to a very one-sided and highly charged issue.
Gene
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| Re: Indoctrination: or How to Start a Holy War. [message #72703 is a reply to message #72686] |
Tue, 19 September 2006 10:19 |
excelav
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"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>>Are you unable to criticize Muslims? Have you drunken the liberal
>>kool-aid?
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>>expiring minds want to know!
>>
>>DC
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>I posted the link about Becky Fischer for a specific reason. It was not
to
>embarrass or criticize any true believers, but to point out that some extremists
>exist on the Christian side. My Point?
>
>It is unfair to paint the modern Christian movement with the brush of Becky
>Fischer, or Fred Phelps. The Christian movement may have a few extremists,
>but they do not represent the majority of good people following the Christian
>cause. Funny, because that is the exact point I am also trying to make about
>the modern Moslem movement, which is not just a bunch of knife wielding
maniacs.
>It is largely a mixture of fundamentalists combined with many who want to
>see more progressive reform in the Moslem church.
>
>Of the over one billion Moslems in the world today perhaps 1% are extremist
>to the point of violence. That’s still a large and dangerous number. It
only
>takes one with a WMD to cause great harm. But what about the 99%?
>
>I am still waiting for someone to answer my question about what we should
>do if we suffer a major attack and a Moslem extremist group takes credit.
>
>Should we kill 1,000,000 people? How about 1,000,000,000?
>
>I do condemn Moslem radical violence . Killing a Nun because of what the
>Pope said is unconscionable but it is not all Moslems.
>
>P.S. Please point out my lies. I may be delusional, but I think I am trying
>to bring some balance to a very one-sided and highly charged issue.
>
>
>Gene
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There are moslem countries that harbor moslem terrorist. Some of the moslem
governments support these terrorist financially. Some of the same people
that are in the moslem government are also members of the terrorist organizations.
There is no separation of religion and government. Their religious leaders
control their government. These religious leaders call for the destruction
of the United States.
Who do we bomb? We bomb the moslem countries that are behind the terrorist
attacks! Although conventional bombing will not stop the problems.
They try to build nukes, we take them out before they take us out. They have
made their intentions clear! We need to take out the nuclear facilities
in Iran. If we have to go to war, will innocent people be killed? YES! That's
war. We didn't start it they did!
The first thing I would do in the name of peace, would be to stop supporting
Israel. But I don't think you would like that, would you? Last year we
caught Israeli spies in Washington spying on our government. Why should
we keep supporting them??? How does Israel help the US? Allies, did they
help us fight the Korean war, Vietnam war, gulf war, any war??? We hand
them money hand over fist, billions a year, why? You all know why!
You want to fix it? We need to stop supporting Oh Israel. They got the
nukes already, god will protect Israel, they don't need us. We need to butt
out!
Although, I'm not sure that it would stop the moslem terrorist from their
mission of destroying the US. They are hell bent on this. How many times
have they had peace agreements only to turnaround and break cease fires?
There will never be peace with moslems. They are not peaceful people, just
look at what they are doing, they kill their own. It is going to take something
vary serious to stop all of this and it's not going to be talk.
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| Re: Indoctrination: or How to Start a Holy War. [message #72707 is a reply to message #72674] |
Tue, 19 September 2006 10:44 |
excelav
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"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sorry – I can’t help myself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I assume we all think that schools in the Middle East where children
are
>>>>indoctrinated with anti-western ideas mixed with big dose of religious
>>zeal
>>>>and combined with preaching the virtues of martyrdom are a bad thing…
>right?
>>>>
>>>>Gene
>>>>
>>>
>>>Right.
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM
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>>It's a twisting of the truth! The children are not being taut to kill
people,
>>they are being taught to be an army for Christ, to spread the word of god.
>> The terms they are using like soldiers, are a figure of speech. It should
>>be soul-diers
>>
>>Of corse they would inter view an anti Christian to get their twisted take
>>on it. I know your on the left coast, but come on Gene!
>>
>
>So you are OK with what Becky Fischer is doing?
>Before you answer, here is another quote from her that has been recorded
>by the press with her permission.
>"I want to teach kids that there is no greater way to show their love for
>Jesus then to lay down their lives for the gospel".
>Nice. Soul-diers indeed.
>The Second Commandment and the 6th (they are taught that to kill in God’s
>name is not murder) seem to be misplaced at the Kids On Fire Camp.
>
>How about Fred Phelps, or some of the Christian/Skinheads, or abortion bombers?
>Are you completely unwilling to admit that there are some extremists in
the
>Christian movement?
>Talk about “come on”.
>
>Gene
>
Gene, there are many that use the name of Christ for their own evil purposes.
There are many radical people that call themselves Christians. I don't
know who these people are, that you point out. In Christianity, it is a
figure of speech to say lay down your life for Christ. It means to devote
your life to christ and to teach the gospel to everybody, not to go out and
kill people in Christ's name. This is a misinterpretation.
In the ten commandments it says, "Thou shalt not do murder", so I don't know
what you are talking about when you say a second commandment. The second
commandment is to not build false idols and worship them. More misinterpretation.
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| Re: Indoctrination: or How to Start a Holy War. [message #72712 is a reply to message #72686] |
Tue, 19 September 2006 11:15 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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if you were in michigan i'd invite ya over for dinner. i don't know
if you (a non specific individual of any bent) can be critical (in a
constructive, questioning manner) of anything without being labeled
something you (see above def.) were not saying to begin with. the
only good thing is that no one here will kill you for it.
On 20 Sep 2006 00:01:27 +1000, "gene lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>>Are you unable to criticize Muslims? Have you drunken the liberal
>>kool-aid?
>>
>>expiring minds want to know!
>>
>>DC
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>
>I posted the link about Becky Fischer for a specific reason. It was not to
>embarrass or criticize any true believers, but to point out that some extremists
>exist on the Christian side. My Point?
>
>It is unfair to paint the modern Christian movement with the brush of Becky
>Fischer, or Fred Phelps. The Christian movement may have a few extremists,
>but they do not represent the majority of good people following the Christian
>cause. Funny, because that is the exact point I am also trying to make about
>the modern Moslem movement, which is not just a bunch of knife wielding maniacs.
>It is largely a mixture of fundamentalists combined with many who want to
>see more progressive reform in the Moslem church.
>
>Of the over one billion Moslems in the world today perhaps 1% are extremist
>to the point of violence. That’s still a large and dangerous number. It only
>takes one with a WMD to cause great harm. But what about the 99%?
>
>I am still waiting for someone to answer my question about what we should
>do if we suffer a major attack and a Moslem extremist group takes credit.
>
>Should we kill 1,000,000 people? How about 1,000,000,000?
>
>I do condemn Moslem radical violence . Killing a Nun because of what the
>Pope said is unconscionable but it is not all Moslems.
>
>P.S. Please point out my lies. I may be delusional, but I think I am trying
>to bring some balance to a very one-sided and highly charged issue.
>
>
>Gene
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| Re: Indoctrination: or How to Start a Holy War. [message #72713 is a reply to message #72707] |
Tue, 19 September 2006 11:17 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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james, my best friends brother is one of those and he's building a
church about 3/4 of a mile from my house...oh happy days.
On 20 Sep 2006 03:44:17 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry – I can’t help myself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I assume we all think that schools in the Middle East where children
>are
>>>>>indoctrinated with anti-western ideas mixed with big dose of religious
>>>zeal
>>>>>and combined with preaching the virtues of martyrdom are a bad thing…
>>right?
>>>>>
>>>>>Gene
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Right.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM
>>>
>>>It's a twisting of the truth! The children are not being taut to kill
>people,
>>>they are being taught to be an army for Christ, to spread the word of god.
>>> The terms they are using like soldiers, are a figure of speech. It should
>>>be soul-diers
>>>
>>>Of corse they would inter view an anti Christian to get their twisted take
>>>on it. I know your on the left coast, but come on Gene!
>>>
>>
>>So you are OK with what Becky Fischer is doing?
>>Before you answer, here is another quote from her that has been recorded
>>by the press with her permission.
>>"I want to teach kids that there is no greater way to show their love for
>>Jesus then to lay down their lives for the gospel".
>>Nice. Soul-diers indeed.
>>The Second Commandment and the 6th (they are taught that to kill in God’s
>>name is not murder) seem to be misplaced at the Kids On Fire Camp.
>>
>>How about Fred Phelps, or some of the Christian/Skinheads, or abortion bombers?
>>Are you completely unwilling to admit that there are some extremists in
>the
>>Christian movement?
>>Talk about “come on”.
>>
>>Gene
>>
>
>Gene, there are many that use the name of Christ for their own evil purposes.
> There are many radical people that call themselves Christians. I don't
>know who these people are, that you point out. In Christianity, it is a
>figure of speech to say lay down your life for Christ. It means to devote
>your life to christ and to teach the gospel to everybody, not to go out and
>kill people in Christ's name. This is a misinterpretation.
>
>In the ten commandments it says, "Thou shalt not do murder", so I don't know
>what you are talking about when you say a second commandment. The second
>commandment is to not build false idols and worship them. More misinterpretation.
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| Re: Indoctrination: or How to Start a Holy War. [message #72795 is a reply to message #72713] |
Wed, 20 September 2006 14:25 |
animix
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Well.......now we've got a hymm for him to broadcast during services, don't
we?
(I dare ya'!!!)
;o)
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bvc0h2hafkh3ofdv3jt4jm0rgqpe0q3td0@4ax.com...
> james, my best friends brother is one of those and he's building a
> church about 3/4 of a mile from my house...oh happy days.
>
>
> On 20 Sep 2006 03:44:17 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sorry - I can't help myself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I assume we all think that schools in the Middle East where children
> >are
> >>>>>indoctrinated with anti-western ideas mixed with big dose of
religious
> >>>zeal
> >>>>>and combined with preaching the virtues of martyrdom are a bad thing.
> >>right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Gene
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Right.
> >>>>
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM
> >>>
> >>>It's a twisting of the truth! The children are not being taut to kill
> >people,
> >>>they are being taught to be an army for Christ, to spread the word of
god.
> >>> The terms they are using like soldiers, are a figure of speech. It
should
> >>>be soul-diers
> >>>
> >>>Of corse they would inter view an anti Christian to get their twisted
take
> >>>on it. I know your on the left coast, but come on Gene!
> >>>
> >>
> >>So you are OK with what Becky Fischer is doing?
> >>Before you answer, here is another quote from her that has been recorded
> >>by the press with her permission.
> >>"I want to teach kids that there is no greater way to show their love
for
> >>Jesus then to lay down their lives for the gospel".
> >>Nice. Soul-diers indeed.
> >>The Second Commandment and the 6th (they are taught that to kill in
God's
> >>name is not murder) seem to be misplaced at the Kids On Fire Camp.
> >>
> >>How about Fred Phelps, or some of the Christian/Skinheads, or abortion
bombers?
> >>Are you completely unwilling to admit that there are some extremists in
> >the
> >>Christian movement?
> >>Talk about "come on".
> >>
> >>Gene
> >>
> >
> >Gene, there are many that use the name of Christ for their own evil
purposes.
> > There are many radical people that call themselves Christians. I don't
> >know who these people are, that you point out. In Christianity, it is a
> >figure of speech to say lay down your life for Christ. It means to
devote
> >your life to christ and to teach the gospel to everybody, not to go out
and
> >kill people in Christ's name. This is a misinterpretation.
> >
> >In the ten commandments it says, "Thou shalt not do murder", so I don't
know
> >what you are talking about when you say a second commandment. The second
> >commandment is to not build false idols and worship them. More
misinterpretation.
>
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| Re: Indoctrination: or How to Start a Holy War. [message #72819 is a reply to message #72795] |
Thu, 21 September 2006 02:05 |
rick
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if only i had his email address...wait...then he'd have mine. why
does the glass have to be both half empty and half full at the same
time. i may as well be kissing my sister...sigh
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:25:09 -0600, "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>Well.......now we've got a hymm for him to broadcast during services, don't
>we?
>
>(I dare ya'!!!)
>
>;o)
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bvc0h2hafkh3ofdv3jt4jm0rgqpe0q3td0@4ax.com...
>> james, my best friends brother is one of those and he's building a
>> church about 3/4 of a mile from my house...oh happy days.
>>
>>
>> On 20 Sep 2006 03:44:17 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Sorry - I can't help myself.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I assume we all think that schools in the Middle East where children
>> >are
>> >>>>>indoctrinated with anti-western ideas mixed with big dose of
>religious
>> >>>zeal
>> >>>>>and combined with preaching the virtues of martyrdom are a bad thing.
>> >>right?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Gene
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Right.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM
>> >>>
>> >>>It's a twisting of the truth! The children are not being taut to kill
>> >people,
>> >>>they are being taught to be an army for Christ, to spread the word of
>god.
>> >>> The terms they are using like soldiers, are a figure of speech. It
>should
>> >>>be soul-diers
>> >>>
>> >>>Of corse they would inter view an anti Christian to get their twisted
>take
>> >>>on it. I know your on the left coast, but come on Gene!
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>So you are OK with what Becky Fischer is doing?
>> >>Before you answer, here is another quote from her that has been recorded
>> >>by the press with her permission.
>> >>"I want to teach kids that there is no greater way to show their love
>for
>> >>Jesus then to lay down their lives for the gospel".
>> >>Nice. Soul-diers indeed.
>> >>The Second Commandment and the 6th (they are taught that to kill in
>God's
>> >>name is not murder) seem to be misplaced at the Kids On Fire Camp.
>> >>
>> >>How about Fred Phelps, or some of the Christian/Skinheads, or abortion
>bombers?
>> >>Are you completely unwilling to admit that there are some extremists in
>> >the
>> >>Christian movement?
>> >>Talk about "come on".
>> >>
>> >>Gene
>> >>
>> >
>> >Gene, there are many that use the name of Christ for their own evil
>purposes.
>> > There are many radical people that call themselves Christians. I don't
>> >know who these people are, that you point out. In Christianity, it is a
>> >figure of speech to say lay down your life for Christ. It means to
>devote
>> >your life to christ and to teach the gospel to everybody, not to go out
>and
>> >kill people in Christ's name. This is a misinterpretation.
>> >
>> >In the ten commandments it says, "Thou shalt not do murder", so I don't
>know
>> >what you are talking about when you say a second commandment. The second
>> >commandment is to not build false idols and worship them. More
>misinterpretation.
>>
>
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| Re: Indoctrination: or How to Start a Holy War. [message #72833 is a reply to message #72819] |
Thu, 21 September 2006 07:49 |
animix
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>i may as well be kissing my sister...sigh
Well.....that's really not that different than a cousin.......and is pretty
much a sure fire way to create more footballheads.
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rbl4h21kavtdhrdorg6ha6p145s3vltkiv@4ax.com...
> if only i had his email address...wait...then he'd have mine. why
> does the glass have to be both half empty and half full at the same
> time. i may as well be kissing my sister...sigh
>
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:25:09 -0600, "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>
> >Well.......now we've got a hymm for him to broadcast during services,
don't
> >we?
> >
> >(I dare ya'!!!)
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:bvc0h2hafkh3ofdv3jt4jm0rgqpe0q3td0@4ax.com...
> >> james, my best friends brother is one of those and he's building a
> >> church about 3/4 of a mile from my house...oh happy days.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 20 Sep 2006 03:44:17 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Sorry - I can't help myself.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I assume we all think that schools in the Middle East where
children
> >> >are
> >> >>>>>indoctrinated with anti-western ideas mixed with big dose of
> >religious
> >> >>>zeal
> >> >>>>>and combined with preaching the virtues of martyrdom are a bad
thing.
> >> >>right?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Gene
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Right.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM
> >> >>>
> >> >>>It's a twisting of the truth! The children are not being taut to
kill
> >> >people,
> >> >>>they are being taught to be an army for Christ, to spread the word
of
> >god.
> >> >>> The terms they are using like soldiers, are a figure of speech. It
> >should
> >> >>>be soul-diers
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Of corse they would inter view an anti Christian to get their
twisted
> >take
> >> >>>on it. I know your on the left coast, but come on Gene!
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>So you are OK with what Becky Fischer is doing?
> >> >>Before you answer, here is another quote from her that has been
recorded
> >> >>by the press with her permission.
> >> >>"I want to teach kids that there is no greater way to show their love
> >for
> >> >>Jesus then to lay down their lives for the gospel".
> >> >>Nice. Soul-diers indeed.
> >> >>The Second Commandment and the 6th (they are taught that to kill in
> >God's
> >> >>name is not murder) seem to be misplaced at the Kids On Fire Camp.
> >> >>
> >> >>How about Fred Phelps, or some of the Christian/Skinheads, or
abortion
> >bombers?
> >> >>Are you completely unwilling to admit that there are some extremists
in
> >> >the
> >> >>Christian movement?
> >> >>Talk about "come on".
> >> >>
> >> >>Gene
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Gene, there are many that use the name of Christ for their own evil
> >purposes.
> >> > There are many radical people that call themselves Christians. I
don't
> >> >know who these people are, that you point out. In Christianity, it is
a
> >> >figure of speech to say lay down your life for Christ. It means to
> >devote
> >> >your life to christ and to teach the gospel to everybody, not to go
out
> >and
> >> >kill people in Christ's name. This is a misinterpretation.
> >> >
> >> >In the ten commandments it says, "Thou shalt not do murder", so I
don't
> >know
> >> >what you are talking about when you say a second commandment. The
second
> >> >commandment is to not build false idols and worship them. More
> >misinterpretation.
> >>
> >
>
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| Re: Indoctrination: or How to Start a Holy War. [message #72836 is a reply to message #72833] |
Thu, 21 September 2006 08:08 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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HEY...i resemble that remark...but those extra toes DO come in handy
when ciphren.
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:49:27 -0600, "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>i may as well be kissing my sister...sigh
>
>Well.....that's really not that different than a cousin.......and is pretty
>much a sure fire way to create more footballheads.
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:rbl4h21kavtdhrdorg6ha6p145s3vltkiv@4ax.com...
>> if only i had his email address...wait...then he'd have mine. why
>> does the glass have to be both half empty and half full at the same
>> time. i may as well be kissing my sister...sigh
>>
>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:25:09 -0600, "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Well.......now we've got a hymm for him to broadcast during services,
>don't
>> >we?
>> >
>> >(I dare ya'!!!)
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:bvc0h2hafkh3ofdv3jt4jm0rgqpe0q3td0@4ax.com...
>> >> james, my best friends brother is one of those and he's building a
>> >> church about 3/4 of a mile from my house...oh happy days.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 20 Sep 2006 03:44:17 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>"gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Sorry - I can't help myself.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>I assume we all think that schools in the Middle East where
>children
>> >> >are
>> >> >>>>>indoctrinated with anti-western ideas mixed with big dose of
>> >religious
>> >> >>>zeal
>> >> >>>>>and combined with preaching the virtues of martyrdom are a bad
>thing.
>> >> >>right?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Gene
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>Right.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>It's a twisting of the truth! The children are not being taut to
>kill
>> >> >people,
>> >> >>>they are being taught to be an army for Christ, to spread the word
>of
>> >god.
>> >> >>> The terms they are using like soldiers, are a figure of speech. It
>> >should
>> >> >>>be soul-diers
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Of corse they would inter view an anti Christian to get their
>twisted
>> >take
>> >> >>>on it. I know your on the left coast, but come on Gene!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>So you are OK with what Becky Fischer is doing?
>> >> >>Before you answer, here is another quote from her that has been
>recorded
>> >> >>by the press with her permission.
>> >> >>"I want to teach kids that there is no greater way to show their love
>> >for
>> >> >>Jesus then to lay down their lives for the gospel".
>> >> >>Nice. Soul-diers indeed.
>> >> >>The Second Commandment and the 6th (they are taught that to kill in
>> >God's
>> >> >>name is not murder) seem to be misplaced at the Kids On Fire Camp.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>How about Fred Phelps, or some of the Christian/Skinheads, or
>abortion
>> >bombers?
>> >> >>Are you completely unwilling to admit that there are some extremists
>in
>> >> >the
>> >> >>Christian movement?
>> >> >>Talk about "come on".
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Gene
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Gene, there are many that use the name of Christ for their own evil
>> >purposes.
>> >> > There are many radical people that call themselves Christians. I
>don't
>> >> >know who these people are, that you point out. In Christianity, it is
>a
>> >> >figure of speech to say lay down your life for Christ. It means to
>> >devote
>> >> >your life to christ and to teach the gospel to everybody, not to go
>out
>> >and
>> >> >kill people in Christ's name. This is a misinterpretation.
>> >> >
>> >> >In the ten commandments it says, "Thou shalt not do murder", so I
>don't
>> >know
>> >> >what you are talking about when you say a second commandment. The
>second
>> >> >commandment is to not build false idols and worship them. More
>> >misinterpretation.
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
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