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| Re: AMD XP 3200 [message #55990 is a reply to message #55982] |
Sun, 17 July 2005 17:23   |
justcron
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>Sunday afternoon would have been pleasant.
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>Further complicating the problem is the fact that you normally
>get your highest rainfall in the June/July time frame there, so
>we'd have been stuck trying to maneuver in well-soaked earth,
>while the Autobahns & bridges on West German side would have
>been crammed with whatever civilians weren't partying in Spain
>trying to get out towards the west, and the Autobahns coming
>from the east would have been stuffed full of Russian tanks &
>BMP's pinning us against the rivers.
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>Assuming a completely conventional war, we still wouldn't have
>lost the whole war, had one occurred... we had superior air
>power, for example, but that takes time to scramble & mobilize
>& assist in killing thousands of tanks, and then rearm & refuel
>to do more of the same, but we would have lost most of our
>ground forces in Europe, and half of what was West Germany
>would have been overrun before we could have beaten them back,
>that's for sure.
>
>It's a damn good thing that never happened. I dunno how many of
>you reading this actually realize to this extent what the deal
>really was, but that's what would've occurred. A LOT of
>Americans knew this same shit that I just typed, but were ready
>to be there for our allies, and I guess that's what pisses me
>off sometimes when I hear someone that we were ready & willing
>to deal wit
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| Re: AMD XP 3200 [message #55996 is a reply to message #55990] |
Sun, 17 July 2005 18:15 |
Deej [1]
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g that this makes the palaestina side
any better (i see more projections coming).
>No, you espouse selective pacifism which you conveniently misplace
>in Bosnia, but apply rigidly to Israel.
i dont apply it rigidly to israel, i just look at the numbers
and say whose approach so far was the most promising one,
whether that fits in your line of thinking of not.
i listed i think 3 examples where violence worked - WW II,
"iraq - the first edition" and serbia/croatia/bosnia.
i say you cant apply that to every scenario. that are
enough examples where it didnt work (the most obvious
from an american point of view being vietnam i guess).
>Derek, you SAID you were a pacifist, well, except for Bosnia.
....and a few other examples you so conveniently overlooked...
>Ok, so you are not a pacifist. How about taking off the moral
>equivilence between Israel and the Palestinians?
i want them all to be happy and live a peaceful live.
so i say what i think is the most promising way to go
about the situation, which i personally chose based on
who had the best track record so far.
of course its not my call to make. so its more violence.
well, their choice.
nothing on this has anthing to do with me taking sides.
i find religious fanatics too disgusting to actually
even be remotely able to take any side down there. you
have my word one that one.
>>- i dont blindly believe that everything on this world can be
>>negotiated
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>Fair enough, so support us in our war on the ghouls and head-
>choppers. If ever there was a time for war this it it.
sorry, im not convinced. (your own words)
>De-escalation is what Spain did, and all those in London paid for it.
>This is not the time for de-escalation.
as if the terror attacks wouldnt have happened otherwise.
you must be dreaming. terror is not under control. terrorists
will do their thing whenever they can. they dont sit
around and say "ok, well, spain wasnt impressed by the terror,
so maybe we should just stop being a terrorist".
there is no way to control terror completely. there may be a way
to *reduce the chances*, but thats as good as it gets, and
as everybody in london will tell you, they expected a terror
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| Re: AMD XP 3200 [message #56005 is a reply to message #55996] |
Sun, 17 July 2005 22:35 |
Rod Lincoln
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Registered: September 2005
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e, yes well Windows wouldn't even boot until I did a repair. ;o)
>As with all motherboards you can not compleatly control PCI steering.
Yeh well I haven't actually played with that yet, only had a look in the
BIOS and the manual. In the next couple of days I'll have a further look
at it.
>PCI slot 2 and 3 are the best ones to
>start with when adding cards.
I think I loaded the EDS cards into 2 & 4 at this stage. I'll have a look
at where the interrupts are sitting hopefully tonight and see if a change
is in order.
> I wouldnt bother with the SPDIF connector
>just plug in the USB/Firewire header.
I was actually hoping to use the SPDIF as very very rarely I use a softsynth
or something from outside Paris and figure I could use the SPDIF to record
them into Paris. Haven't played with it yet though.
Also I plan to get one of these famed DAC-1's in the next 12 months or so
and would like to use it for that too.
> On most newer cases you will get
>and extra PCI slot space above the AGP slot.
My case circa 1998 has that. :o)
>The NVidia one would be the best one to leave
>enabled sense it is integrated into the chipset.
AND it's the gigabit one. :o)
> I would also use
>something other than the on board sound if you are using audio software
>other than Paris.
Only other thing I use is Wavelab, which I plan to have another shot at using
the ASIO drivers for. Even though I use Wavelab, in any case I rarely make
any audio decisions in Wavelab. Mostly I do all that in Paris. I might author
a CD in Wavelab, but that's just adjusting track gaps times etc and sound
quality isn't an issue.
>I'd suggest the MAudio AudioPhile 2496 or 192 models
>or use the M-Audio FW Audiophile. Otherwise RME stuff.
At this stage I'm still mostly a Paris guy, though the ability to use Cubase
or something would be nice...
>Here is a quick guide to how I would install things on XP in general.
Hehe, geez, you do a bit of a dodgy rework and next thing you know everyone's
on yer case! ;o)
Seriously though that's some fantastic advice below and I will undoubtedly
go though and do pretty much the whole thing to the letter with a couple
of minor adjustments. You even provided links! How easy! :o) I can see I'm
going to have to find the cash to get these hdd's a bit sooned than I planned
aren't I? ;o)
Thanks heaps, and thanks heaps for that MB recommendation in the first place
too.
Cheers,
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I think the temperature must be something like BC on the Canadian =
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| Re: AMD XP 3200 [message #56010 is a reply to message #56005] |
Mon, 18 July 2005 02:53 |
rick
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> I think the temperature must be something like BC on the Canadian
> westcoast. Maybe not so stable and cold winters, you see we have the
> Golf Stream right outside in the Northern/North Atlantic sea. So it
> can be more rainy than snowing in the wintertime here.
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> erlilo
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> "Jef Knight" <"Jef Knight"> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:42daf0b3@linux...
> Hi,
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> This look like a pretty sweet place to live.
> What's the temperature there?
>
> jef
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awesome!<br>
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<div> I think the temperature must be something like BC on the
Canadian westcoast. Maybe not so stable and cold winters, you see we
have the Golf Stream right outside in the Northern/North Atlantic sea.
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Hi,<br>
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This look like a pretty sweet place to live.<br>
What's the temperature there?<br>
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Dedric Terry wrote:
> No Jef, it's just that some Canadians seem to have nothing better to
> do than complain about the US.
True. I'm not one of them, I DO have better things to do that I'm
neglecting in favour of the complaining routine. ; )
> You probably feel lonely, insecure, and a bit neglected since the
> world often forgets you're there.
ya, but it keeps the place quite.
> How easily we forget your great contributions such as
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| Re: AMD XP 3200 [message #56015 is a reply to message #55982] |
Mon, 18 July 2005 07:33 |
Jeremy Luzier
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s it further, but really, we've covered
>>>>>
>>>>>the subject, don't you think?
>>>>>
>>>>>DC
>>>>>
>>>>>PS, holy cow this Marshall JCM2000 sounds cool cranked up!
>>>>>Unfortunately, you can hear it down at the stop light when I do
>>>>>that... grrrr... Why can't the modelers sound like that?
>>>>>
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>>Hey Guys,<br>
>><br>
>>That was nothin' personal, really. Were you to meet me you'd see a fun
>>cross between Ghandi and Lewis Black. <br>
>>As for ad hominems, if Limaugh, et al,can do it so can I. Damn the
>>passive-aggressives who veil their words.<br>
>><br>
>>Besides, it makes for good entertainment for those only lurking. I'm
>>actually suprised you didn't get the entertainment value part of it.
>>Trailer Park Boys isn't hillarious for no reason. Swearing and verbal
>>abuse rock the entertainment world. <br>
>>Uh, oh, I forgot...this is a *serious* newsgroup.<br>
>><br>
>>Also, I'm just soooooo cynical/satirical. Well, probably not cynical
>>enough actually, but still, pretty jaded to the fray.<br>
>><br>
>>And you're right: it's just political BS, all of it. I'm kinda suprised
>>that in a political conversation anyone would get their
>>nose-out-of-joint by being called an idiot. "Y'ain't one u' them pussy
>>liberals err ya?"....lol<br>
>><br>
>>The most interesting thing about USians is that, unlike Canadian, they
>>are generally, uh, a tad too sensitive. <br>
>>Hey, no offence! Really! Just seem pretty prevelant.<br>
>>You should come up some time and wittness the unbridled fucking torrent
>>of mothe
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| Re: AMD XP 3200 [message #56027 is a reply to message #56018] |
Mon, 18 July 2005 09:10 |
Jeremy Luzier
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Registered: November 2005
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ix with a gob of tracks..... like 70 or
> > something
> > > ridiculous.... mostly because 16 of the tracks are from the london
> > symphony
> > > orchestra! boing! :-)
> > >
> > > well see how she holds up!
> > >
> > > Jer
> > >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > news:42daeb52$1@linux...
> > > > My Cubase DAW is running at 333MHz (2 x gigs of PC 2700 DDR) using
an
> > AMD
> > > XP
> > > > 3000 CPU. It is plugging along at between 60-75% CPU usage when
> playing
> > > back
> > > > 48 tracks of audio with little else going on other than plugins from
> my
> > 3
> > > x
> > > > UAD-1 cards. I'm not fmiliar enough with SX to knowif this is about
> > normal
> > > > or not and I'm sure I could optomize the system a little more by
> turning
> > > off
> > > > the LAN in the bios when I'm mixing since one of my RME's is sharing
> an
> > > IRQ
> > > > with it, but anyway, the system seems very stable and definitely
> usable
> > as
> > > a
> > > > mixdown platform. I would however, like to squeeze a little more CPU
> > > > headroom out of it and I'm wondering if anyone here has ever
> substituted
> > > an
> > > > XP 3200 CPU for an XP 3000 and noticed that the gain in cycles was
> > > > substantial enough to justify the expenditure (as subjective as that
> > is).
> > > > Anyway, it's a longshot, but I thought I'd ask.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Deej
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>Steve Taylor's "I Wanna Be A Clone?"
"Brian Porick" <brianporick@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42dbc00f$1@linux...
>> here is some trivia for ya.....
>>
>> who is playing bass on "i want to be a clone".... you know the intro....
>> "da
>> ga da ga da ga da ga dun, da ga da ga da ga da ga dun,......"
>
> I believe that would be our old friend Brian Tankersley...
>
>
>Yup...I'm looking at the album right now. I'm kind of upset that
Brian P. beat me to the punch on the answer.
Rod
"Mark McCurdy" <gmmccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Steve Taylor's "I Wanna Be A Clone?"
>
>
>"Brian Porick" <brianporick@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:42dbc00f$1@linux...
>>> here is some trivia for ya.....
>>>
>>> who is playing bass on "i want to be a clone".... you know the intro....
>>> "da
>>> ga da ga da ga da ga dun, da ga da ga da ga da ga dun,......"
>>
>> I believe that would be our old friend Brian Tankersley...
>>
>>
>>
>
>mines still going strong also.
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I still say that mobo is about the most solid thing I've ever put together.
>Still using mine, and added another for my live band's usage.. zero
>problems. Paris is a 1900+ and the other a 2200+. My only regret is that
I
>could never find the firewire capable model in stock anywhere.
>
>AA
>
>
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>"Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:42dbbe3b@linux...
>> Last year I rebuilt Paris reliable with the older Asus A7S333 mobo.
>>
>> http://www.actbuy.com/details.asp?item=AS04A7S333 Under $60 usd.
>>
>> AMD Athlon XPs w 266mhz FSB (not Sempron or AMD64).
>>
>> Decent ram and a hefty p/s 450watt or higher.
>>
>> I still want to beef up the
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| Re: AMD XP 3200 [message #56029 is a reply to message #56027] |
Mon, 18 July 2005 09:38 |
Deej [1]
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graphical job well but I know cards
>>> with
>>> ATI or NVidia chips will do it too. 512MB RAM of good quality, 2 IDE
>>> harddisks, Maxtor, Seagate or WD, 40/160 MB, a DVD/CD burner and an ATX
>>> power supply 400/550w. Most of these things are in regular use here,
so
>> it's
>>> more to find out what you will use and can get easily. You can find out
>> more
>>> on internet.
>>> Most of these firms are using their names on internet as www.epox.com
>>>
>>> erlilo
>>>
>>> "Spappy" <Spappy122@yahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>> news:42d70819$1@linux...
>>> >I think you guys are right. This computer is way to lame. I need to
>>> >build
>> a
>>> >new one.
>>> >
>>> > So can you guys give me a list of components that work well with Paris,
>> I
>>> > can have it built but I need a list of components.
>>> >
>>> > Like Mother Board... etc
>>> >
>>> > I plan to use a a wave terminal 192x for sound as I have many virtual
>>> > instruments.
>>> >
>>> > Spappy
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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>Yea, I think he played on a lot of the old school CCM projects. Glad,
Whiteheart etc...
From what I understand he has moved his operation to Houston. (Where I
Live). He took a position at Lakewood Church as their media director I
believe. Pretty sweet gig.
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:42dbe8a0$1@linux...
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> Yup...I'm looking at the album right now. I'm kind of upset that
> Brian P. beat me to the punch on the answer.
> Rod
> "Mark McCurdy" <gmmccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Steve Taylor's "I Wanna Be A Clone?"
>>
>>
>>"Brian Porick" <brianporick@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:42dbc00f$1@linux...
>>>> here is some trivia for ya.....
>>>>
>>>> who is playing bass on "i want to be a clone".... you know the
>>>> intro....
>
>>>> "da
>>>> ga da ga da ga da ga dun, da ga da ga da ga da ga dun,......"
>>>
>>> I believe that would be our old friend Brian Tankersley...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>it does help to explain the tardy cd. is it on it's way yet? god,
i'd make a wonderful wife/mother huh.
;o)
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:04:08 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>This is sort of the the same approach I take when building a new computer.
>
>;o)
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:c8fnd1pe1u2tbim0ujrj4sdjo29f90r5cv@4ax.com...
>> what if i follow the wrong trail by mistake and end up lawyers office
>> of the guy (whose other parts i followed by your advice) he's suing.
>> he'll listen to my besotted tale of woe and offers me a job as a
>> numbers runner for one of his other clients. then after a few
>> successful runs i collect my money only to find out that it's
>> counterfeit. this of course happens after i go in to pay the parking
>> ticket i got in my rented car since mine is the real trail i should
>> have followed.
>>
>> now i'm in court facing 3 to 5 for passing bad bills. the lawyer who
>> got me into this shit to begin with refuses to take my case saying
>> that i should have known better than to follow his advice.
>>
>> after the paramedics put my immobile body onto the gurney and in to
>> the ambulance we proceed to the hospital where the crash cart awaits
>> my expected arrival. making the final turn to the hospital entrance
>> the rear door of the ambulance swings open as the first of two wheels
>> hits the dead cat in the road. the ensuing bump while not large is
>> enough to sever the relationship between the gurney and floor of my
>> ride. my open eyes catch sight of the medics in the back as i pass
>> them out the door.
>>
>> the ambulance screeches to a hault but the gurney continues on
>> striking a bike messenger just hard enough to alter my direction 90
>> degrees to port and down the rather sizable steep hill. as my speed
>> gathers down the hill, the thought "oh crap" begins to replace the
>> previous ...
>>
>> i could go on about this but the memories are far too painful for me
>> to continue and i'm sure you'll understand my stopping.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:55:56 -0600, "Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >just follow the trail of smashed up car parts by the interstate...
>> >
>> >
>> >El Crumbs
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"rick" <
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