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Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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OK, I was fine tuning an little MIDI arrangement in Cubase (v.5) and I had
this track with some continuous controller data (specifically, some ramping
up and down of the master volume). All I wanted to do was select all of
that data and change the value of it, i.e., to turn down the overall volume
but retain the ups and downs. I tried different approaches and could only
change the value of one piece of the ramp at a time. There must be a way to
raise or lower the whole thing, right? What am I missing here?

I miss my Hybrid Arts SMPTE-Track. Simple, intuitive, reliable . . . hmm .
.. . I do still have my Atari 1040 ST . . .

Sarah
Re: Cubase . . . what the . . . ? How in the . . . ? [message #86449 is a reply to message #86447] Mon, 11 June 2007 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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Hi Sarah,

I don't know how Cubase 5 handles this, but in Cubase SX/4 you can use the
transform to do it (there are presets in SX than can cover this for velocity
and a few others, but they may not be in v5).

If you have the Transform in v5 I can give you a quick rundown of how to do
this, assuming it hasn't changed drastically.

Regards,
Dedric


On 6/11/07 8:08 AM, in article 466d58fb@linux, "Sarah"
<sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:

> OK, I was fine tuning an little MIDI arrangement in Cubase (v.5) and I had
> this track with some continuous controller data (specifically, some ramping
> up and down of the master volume). All I wanted to do was select all of
> that data and change the value of it, i.e., to turn down the overall volume
> but retain the ups and downs. I tried different approaches and could only
> change the value of one piece of the ramp at a time. There must be a way to
> raise or lower the whole thing, right? What am I missing here?
>
> I miss my Hybrid Arts SMPTE-Track. Simple, intuitive, reliable . . . hmm .
> . . I do still have my Atari 1040 ST . . .
>
> Sarah
>
>
Re: Cubase . . . what the . . . ? How in the . . . ? [message #86454 is a reply to message #86449] Mon, 11 June 2007 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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You can also do this in SX by highlighting all the data then using the
mouse scroll wheel.

David.

Dedric Terry wrote:
> Hi Sarah,
>
> I don't know how Cubase 5 handles this, but in Cubase SX/4 you can use the
> transform to do it (there are presets in SX than can cover this for velocity
> and a few others, but they may not be in v5).
>
> If you have the Transform in v5 I can give you a quick rundown of how to do
> this, assuming it hasn't changed drastically.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
>
> On 6/11/07 8:08 AM, in article 466d58fb@linux, "Sarah"
> <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>
>
>>OK, I was fine tuning an little MIDI arrangement in Cubase (v.5) and I had
>>this track with some continuous controller data (specifically, some ramping
>>up and down of the master volume). All I wanted to do was select all of
>>that data and change the value of it, i.e., to turn down the overall volume
>>but retain the ups and downs. I tried different approaches and could only
>>change the value of one piece of the ramp at a time. There must be a way to
>>raise or lower the whole thing, right? What am I missing here?
>>
>>I miss my Hybrid Arts SMPTE-Track. Simple, intuitive, reliable . . . hmm .
>>. . I do still have my Atari 1040 ST . . .
>>
>>Sarah
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Cubase . . . what the . . . ? How in the . . . ? [message #86456 is a reply to message #86447] Mon, 11 June 2007 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
duncan is currently offline  duncan   UNITED STATES
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I think you can highlight all the data and reduce velocity -- I seem
to rembember the shortcut was ctrl-H in Cubase 5. But, whatever it
was, yeah, you're right, there definitely is a way. But, Cubase being
Cubase, you may have to sift through the eleventy-bajillion menus,
sub-menus, options, and optional option preference sub-options menus
to find it. Good luck.

-- oh yeah, and whatever you do, don't open the "Help" -- it ain't
helpful... -- chas.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:08:18 -0700, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
wrote:

>OK, I was fine tuning an little MIDI arrangement in Cubase (v.5) and I had
>this track with some continuous controller data (specifically, some ramping
>up and down of the master volume). All I wanted to do was select all of
>that data and change the value of it, i.e., to turn down the overall volume
>but retain the ups and downs. I tried different approaches and could only
>change the value of one piece of the ramp at a time. There must be a way to
>raise or lower the whole thing, right? What am I missing here?
>
>I miss my Hybrid Arts SMPTE-Track. Simple, intuitive, reliable . . . hmm .
>. . I do still have my Atari 1040 ST . . .
>
>Sarah
>
Re: Cubase . . . what the . . . ? How in the . . . ? [message #86460 is a reply to message #86447] Mon, 11 June 2007 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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You should have a MIDI fader option on the left of the track. Or you
could just turn down the output vol of the synthesizer. ;-)

Sarah wrote:
> OK, I was fine tuning an little MIDI arrangement in Cubase (v.5) and I had
> this track with some continuous controller data (specifically, some ramping
> up and down of the master volume). All I wanted to do was select all of
> that data and change the value of it, i.e., to turn down the overall volume
> but retain the ups and downs. I tried different approaches and could only
> change the value of one piece of the ramp at a time. There must be a way to
> raise or lower the whole thing, right? What am I missing here?
>
> I miss my Hybrid Arts SMPTE-Track. Simple, intuitive, reliable . . . hmm .
> . . I do still have my Atari 1040 ST . . .
>
> Sarah
>
>
Re: Cubase . . . what the . . . ? How in the . . . ? [message #86481 is a reply to message #86449] Tue, 12 June 2007 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah
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The only place I see the word "transform" is in the function menu under "logical
editor" which seems absurdly cryptic and I couldn't make it do anything to
my contoller data except make it disappear completely. I took Bill's advice
and just shuffled through the menus on my synth module to turn down the channels
in question so I could run off a rough mix for my "peeps".

BUT . . . for future reference . . . today I discovered that in the controller
editor there is an unlabelled and well camouflaged slider that will move
the entire data stream up and down. :)

Thanks.

S


Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Hi Sarah,
>
>I don't know how Cubase 5 handles this, but in Cubase SX/4 you can use the
>transform to do it (there are presets in SX than can cover this for velocity
>and a few others, but they may not be in v5).
>
>If you have the Transform in v5 I can give you a quick rundown of how to
do
>this, assuming it hasn't changed drastically.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>
>On 6/11/07 8:08 AM, in article 466d58fb@linux, "Sarah"
><sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, I was fine tuning an little MIDI arrangement in Cubase (v.5) and I
had
>> this track with some continuous controller data (specifically, some ramping
>> up and down of the master volume). All I wanted to do was select all
of
>> that data and change the value of it, i.e., to turn down the overall volume
>> but retain the ups and downs. I tried different approaches and could
only
>> change the value of one piece of the ramp at a time. There must be a
way to
>> raise or lower the whole thing, right? What am I missing here?
>>
>> I miss my Hybrid Arts SMPTE-Track. Simple, intuitive, reliable . . .
hmm .
>> . . I do still have my Atari 1040 ST . . .
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>
Re: Cubase . . . what the . . . ? How in the . . . ? [message #86482 is a reply to message #86460] Tue, 12 June 2007 02:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah
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Yeah, the midi fader sets the intial volume, but then the contol changes override
it. I was trying to avoid changing the volume in the synth module (I hate
the staring at the little window while I push the cursor buttons and roll
the data wheel), but that is what I wound up doing.

Thanks all, for the advices.

S



Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>You should have a MIDI fader option on the left of the track. Or you
>could just turn down the output vol of the synthesizer. ;-)
>
>Sarah wrote:
>> OK, I was fine tuning an little MIDI arrangement in Cubase (v.5) and I
had
>> this track with some continuous controller data (specifically, some ramping

>> up and down of the master volume). All I wanted to do was select all
of
>> that data and change the value of it, i.e., to turn down the overall volume

>> but retain the ups and downs. I tried different approaches and could
only
>> change the value of one piece of the ramp at a time. There must be a
way to
>> raise or lower the whole thing, right? What am I missing here?
>>
>> I miss my Hybrid Arts SMPTE-Track. Simple, intuitive, reliable . . .
hmm .
>> . . I do still have my Atari 1040 ST . . .
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
Re: Cubase . . . what the . . . ? How in the . . . ? [message #86486 is a reply to message #86481] Tue, 12 June 2007 04:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Maybe post the question to the cubase forum ?
Re: Cubase . . . what the . . . ? How in the . . . ? [message #86519 is a reply to message #86482] Tue, 12 June 2007 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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Oh so the little lady didn't want to get her fingers dirty pushing some
buttons and "Oh, no!" turning a knob! Women!!!

Sarah wrote:
> Yeah, the midi fader sets the intial volume, but then the contol changes override
> it. I was trying to avoid changing the volume in the synth module (I hate
> the staring at the little window while I push the cursor buttons and roll
> the data wheel), but that is what I wound up doing.
>
> Thanks all, for the advices.
>
> S
>
>
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> You should have a MIDI fader option on the left of the track. Or you
>> could just turn down the output vol of the synthesizer. ;-)
>>
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> OK, I was fine tuning an little MIDI arrangement in Cubase (v.5) and I
> had
>>> this track with some continuous controller data (specifically, some ramping
>
>>> up and down of the master volume). All I wanted to do was select all
> of
>>> that data and change the value of it, i.e., to turn down the overall volume
>
>>> but retain the ups and downs. I tried different approaches and could
> only
>>> change the value of one piece of the ramp at a time. There must be a
> way to
>>> raise or lower the whole thing, right? What am I missing here?
>>>
>>> I miss my Hybrid Arts SMPTE-Track. Simple, intuitive, reliable . . .
> hmm .
>>> . . I do still have my Atari 1040 ST . . .
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>>
>
Re: Cubase . . . what the . . . ? How in the . . . ? [message #86522 is a reply to message #86519] Tue, 12 June 2007 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Hey, don't make me come over there, mister . . . I can turn a knob if I have
to, and you won't like it one bit.

I don't even know what that means. :)

S


"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:466f4a46@linux...
> Oh so the little lady didn't want to get her fingers dirty pushing some
> buttons and "Oh, no!" turning a knob! Women!!!
>
> Sarah wrote:
>> Yeah, the midi fader sets the intial volume, but then the contol changes
>> override
>> it. I was trying to avoid changing the volume in the synth module (I
>> hate
>> the staring at the little window while I push the cursor buttons and roll
>> the data wheel), but that is what I wound up doing.
>>
>> Thanks all, for the advices.
>>
>> S
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>> You should have a MIDI fader option on the left of the track. Or you
>>> could just turn down the output vol of the synthesizer. ;-)
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> OK, I was fine tuning an little MIDI arrangement in Cubase (v.5) and I
>> had
>>>> this track with some continuous controller data (specifically, some
>>>> ramping
>>
>>>> up and down of the master volume). All I wanted to do was select all
>> of
>>>> that data and change the value of it, i.e., to turn down the overall
>>>> volume
>>
>>>> but retain the ups and downs. I tried different approaches and could
>> only
>>>> change the value of one piece of the ramp at a time. There must be a
>> way to
>>>> raise or lower the whole thing, right? What am I missing here?
>>>>
>>>> I miss my Hybrid Arts SMPTE-Track. Simple, intuitive, reliable . . .
>> hmm .
>>>> . . I do still have my Atari 1040 ST . . .
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>>
>>
Re: Cubase . . . what the . . . ? How in the . . . ? [message #86533 is a reply to message #86522] Wed, 13 June 2007 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Hey, don't make me come over there, mister . . . I can turn a
>knob if I have to, and you won't like it one bit.

My last girlfriend told me that a couple months ago.

She was right, too!

:D
Re: Cubase . . . what the . . . ? How in the . . . ? [message #86537 is a reply to message #86522] Wed, 13 June 2007 04:58 Go to previous message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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I don't know what you meant either, but I'm scared.

Sarah wrote:
> Hey, don't make me come over there, mister . . . I can turn a knob if I have
> to, and you won't like it one bit.
>
> I don't even know what that means. :)
>
> S
>
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:466f4a46@linux...
>> Oh so the little lady didn't want to get her fingers dirty pushing some
>> buttons and "Oh, no!" turning a knob! Women!!!
>>
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> Yeah, the midi fader sets the intial volume, but then the contol changes
>>> override
>>> it. I was trying to avoid changing the volume in the synth module (I
>>> hate
>>> the staring at the little window while I push the cursor buttons and roll
>>> the data wheel), but that is what I wound up doing.
>>>
>>> Thanks all, for the advices.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>> You should have a MIDI fader option on the left of the track. Or you
>>>> could just turn down the output vol of the synthesizer. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>>> OK, I was fine tuning an little MIDI arrangement in Cubase (v.5) and I
>>> had
>>>>> this track with some continuous controller data (specifically, some
>>>>> ramping
>>>>> up and down of the master volume). All I wanted to do was select all
>>> of
>>>>> that data and change the value of it, i.e., to turn down the overall
>>>>> volume
>>>>> but retain the ups and downs. I tried different approaches and could
>>> only
>>>>> change the value of one piece of the ramp at a time. There must be a
>>> way to
>>>>> raise or lower the whole thing, right? What am I missing here?
>>>>>
>>>>> I miss my Hybrid Arts SMPTE-Track. Simple, intuitive, reliable . . .
>>> hmm .
>>>>> . . I do still have my Atari 1040 ST . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>
>
>
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