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| Aux channels compression [message #69208] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 03:54  |
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John [1]
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I have 10 drum channels I'm trying to compress to a stereo mix on Aux1 and
then mix the raw channels back on top (new york compression technique).
In AUX1 I only have EDS effects and the compressor seems to distort badly
with kick drums. There is no way to do Natives on Aux, right? Any other
ideas how to accomplish this? Thanks,
John
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69222 is a reply to message #69219] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 06:06  |
Dimitrios
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Hey Zmora !
Why didn't I think of it ???
Congrats...
Maybe its dead eady thats why...
DJ will understand me :)
Now here is my "difficult" scenario for "difficult" users...
Put edstransfer 8,8 or 8,16 in your Paris config
Then use Senderella on every drumtrack.
On slot1 put senderella ch1 and on slot2 senderella ch2
NOw on last tracks 15 &16 put two empty audiuofiles and use senderella return
ch1 on 15 and senderella ch2 on 16
So ch1 is your left bus send and ch2 your right.
Still with me ?
Now put a DX/VST compressor (0 latent) as stereo on 15 & 16 and use heavy
compression.
Nice...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
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>John, use two auxes both with st.compressors.
>On aux 1 use yours compressor setting, on aux2 set compressor ratio 1:1,
>it's mesn sound no compressed.Mute chanells with drums in mixer and keep
>aux in "pre fader modes" in aux setting on chanell.Now you'll mixed all
in
>aux master section,aux1 >aux2 by
>"return trim".Keep attention, use the same lookahead setting for both compressors!!!
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>"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
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>>John
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>>Maybe you should use anly aux for all, I mean mixed aux-dry drum & aux-compressed
>>drum with muted chanells?
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>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>>>by the way, there sure a lot of crappy vst compressors out there.
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69227 is a reply to message #69221] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 06:43 |
John [1]
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I'm having great success with the BlueTubes, C1, RenComp, and Sonalksis but
so far the Aux problem eludes me.
"Neil" <IOUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>>by the way, there sure a lot of crappy vst compressors out there.
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>Yes there are, but there's some quite good ones as well -
>If you're talking about some of the free or cheaper ones,
>I think this is true of a LOT of freeware/shareware/donationware
>plugins. You do have to dig through the trash to get to the
>treasure, but on the other hand, try to find a freeware TDM
>plugin... anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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>What instruments are you looking to compress, and which VST
>comps have you tried? I've found I certainly prefer certain
>ones for certain tasks maybe I can give you a list of the ones
>I've found most useful.
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>Neil
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69254 is a reply to message #69247] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 16:55 |
Aaron Allen
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well, basically put the first thing in the chain is the WAV read, then
VST/DX, then EDS effects, etc... soooo, given that you are muting off the
channel from the mix buses shooting it rather to an AUX for compression as a
PRE send, you'll need to have EQ and more incremental gain that that method
offers. Thus, using native plugs to obtain it. Optimally, you would use the
Paris VST EQ's for this purpose to keep things uniform, but feel free to
branch out to whatever you dig.
Does that help?
AA
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:448dd992@linux...
> now i'm totally lost
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> You can use VST/DX for EQ and Gain to further this technique.
>> AA
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>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote in message news:448d64f9$1@linux...
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>>>John, use two auxes both with st.compressors.
>>>On aux 1 use yours compressor setting, on aux2 set compressor ratio 1:1,
>>>it's mesn sound no compressed.Mute chanells with drums in mixer and keep
>>>aux in "pre fader modes" in aux setting on chanell.Now you'll mixed all
>>>in
>>>aux master section,aux1 >aux2 by
>>>"return trim".Keep attention, use the same lookahead setting for both
>>>compressors!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
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>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Maybe you should use anly aux for all, I mean mixed aux-dry drum &
>>>>aux-compressed
>>>>drum with muted chanells?
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>by the way, there sure a lot of crappy vst compressors out there.
>>>>
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>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69260 is a reply to message #69223] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 17:39 |
Neil
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"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>Neil,
>Please share...
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
No problem... my current favorite freebie/cheapie VST comps
(and I say "Current" because one never knows what one will
stumble across, does one?) are as follows:
Cheapies first:
Voxengo Transmodder... Damn this thing RAWKS on drums! Someone
here on this NG turned me onto this one (I can't find the
thread as to who it was, but please step forward & take
credit!). It's only like 59 bucks, and it kills on drums.
Voxengo Voxformer... Another $59 or thereabouts killer
compressor that also does much more... I have no use for
anything else on lead vocals anymore - truly. go check it out &
download the demo, but if you do so, be prepared to shell out,
because you'll love it. This has also replaced my former
favorite de-esser plugin (Spitfish) for that purpose.
Now for the Freebies:
BuzzMaxi2... this is a GREAT transparant peak limiter, for
either 2-buss peak limiting, but it also works great on kick.
From Buzzroom.
Also from Buzzroom are Grancomp & Grancomp3 - in the same
freebie bundle they also have a "Genecomp" & "Genecomp 3", but
I find I don't use those very much). The grancomps are great
for guitar & bass, IMO. I find the single band is great for
guitar & the multi-band works really well for bass (the "3" is
the multiband version of each).
Finally, the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor... IMO, this is good
for cymbals/OH's, and sometimes bass... it also can work pretty well on background
vocals if you don't want to suck up several tracks worth of Voxformer-level
CPU resources.
Just Google the names I gave you - you should be able to find
them - if you can't let me know. Hope this is helpful.
Neil
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69261 is a reply to message #69223] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 17:39 |
Neil
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"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>Neil,
>Please share...
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
No problem... my current favorite freebie/cheapie VST comps
(and I say "Current" because one never knows what one will
stumble across, does one?) are as follows:
Cheapies first:
Voxengo Transmodder... Damn this thing RAWKS on drums! Someone
here on this NG turned me onto this one (I can't find the
thread as to who it was, but please step forward & take
credit!). It's only like 59 bucks, and it kills on drums.
Voxengo Voxformer... Another $59 or thereabouts killer
compressor that also does much more... I have no use for
anything else on lead vocals anymore - truly. go check it out &
download the demo, but if you do so, be prepared to shell out,
because you'll love it. This has also replaced my former
favorite de-esser plugin (Spitfish) for that purpose.
Now for the Freebies:
BuzzMaxi2... this is a GREAT transparant peak limiter, for
either 2-buss peak limiting, but it also works great on kick.
From Buzzroom.
Also from Buzzroom are Grancomp & Grancomp3 - in the same
freebie bundle they also have a "Genecomp" & "Genecomp 3", but
I find I don't use those very much). The grancomps are great
for guitar & bass, IMO. I find the single band is great for
guitar & the multi-band works really well for bass (the "3" is
the multiband version of each).
Finally, the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor... IMO, this is good
for cymbals/OH's, and sometimes bass... it also can work pretty well on background
vocals if you don't want to suck up several tracks worth of Voxformer-level
CPU resources.
Just Google the names I gave you - you should be able to find
them - if you can't let me know. Hope this is helpful.
Neil
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69267 is a reply to message #69261] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 19:44 |
Cujjo
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These are zero latency?
Hey D, I tried your native submix idea, using VST on auxes ther, they showed
up, but no sound, what am I doing wrong?
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>>Neil,
>>Please share...
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
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>No problem... my current favorite freebie/cheapie VST comps
>(and I say "Current" because one never knows what one will
>stumble across, does one?) are as follows:
>
>Cheapies first:
>Voxengo Transmodder... Damn this thing RAWKS on drums! Someone
>here on this NG turned me onto this one (I can't find the
>thread as to who it was, but please step forward & take
>credit!). It's only like 59 bucks, and it kills on drums.
>
>Voxengo Voxformer... Another $59 or thereabouts killer
>compressor that also does much more... I have no use for
>anything else on lead vocals anymore - truly. go check it out &
>download the demo, but if you do so, be prepared to shell out,
>because you'll love it. This has also replaced my former
>favorite de-esser plugin (Spitfish) for that purpose.
>
>Now for the Freebies:
>BuzzMaxi2... this is a GREAT transparant peak limiter, for
>either 2-buss peak limiting, but it also works great on kick.
>From Buzzroom.
>
>Also from Buzzroom are Grancomp & Grancomp3 - in the same
>freebie bundle they also have a "Genecomp" & "Genecomp 3", but
>I find I don't use those very much). The grancomps are great
>for guitar & bass, IMO. I find the single band is great for
>guitar & the multi-band works really well for bass (the "3" is
>the multiband version of each).
>
>Finally, the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor... IMO, this is good
>for cymbals/OH's, and sometimes bass... it also can work pretty well on
background
>vocals if you don't want to suck up several tracks worth of Voxformer-level
>CPU resources.
>
>Just Google the names I gave you - you should be able to find
>them - if you can't let me know. Hope this is helpful.
>
>Neil
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69271 is a reply to message #69267] |
Mon, 12 June 2006 20:58 |
Neil
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"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>These are zero latency?
I have no idea, since I'm using a latency-compensatory host app.
Neil
>Hey D, I tried your native submix idea, using VST on auxes ther, they showed
>up, but no sound, what am I doing wrong?
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>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>>>Neil,
>>>Please share...
>>>Regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>>
>>No problem... my current favorite freebie/cheapie VST comps
>>(and I say "Current" because one never knows what one will
>>stumble across, does one?) are as follows:
>>
>>Cheapies first:
>>Voxengo Transmodder... Damn this thing RAWKS on drums! Someone
>>here on this NG turned me onto this one (I can't find the
>>thread as to who it was, but please step forward & take
>>credit!). It's only like 59 bucks, and it kills on drums.
>>
>>Voxengo Voxformer... Another $59 or thereabouts killer
>>compressor that also does much more... I have no use for
>>anything else on lead vocals anymore - truly. go check it out &
>>download the demo, but if you do so, be prepared to shell out,
>>because you'll love it. This has also replaced my former
>>favorite de-esser plugin (Spitfish) for that purpose.
>>
>>Now for the Freebies:
>>BuzzMaxi2... this is a GREAT transparant peak limiter, for
>>either 2-buss peak limiting, but it also works great on kick.
>>From Buzzroom.
>>
>>Also from Buzzroom are Grancomp & Grancomp3 - in the same
>>freebie bundle they also have a "Genecomp" & "Genecomp 3", but
>>I find I don't use those very much). The grancomps are great
>>for guitar & bass, IMO. I find the single band is great for
>>guitar & the multi-band works really well for bass (the "3" is
>>the multiband version of each).
>>
>>Finally, the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor... IMO, this is good
>>for cymbals/OH's, and sometimes bass... it also can work pretty well on
>background
>>vocals if you don't want to suck up several tracks worth of Voxformer-level
>>CPU resources.
>>
>>Just Google the names I gave you - you should be able to find
>>them - if you can't let me know. Hope this is helpful.
>>
>>Neil
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69275 is a reply to message #69267] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 04:07 |
John [1]
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How can you get a VST on an aux? Mine just shows EDS.
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>These are zero latency?
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>Hey D, I tried your native submix idea, using VST on auxes ther, they showed
>up, but no sound, what am I doing wrong?
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>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>>>Neil,
>>>Please share...
>>>Regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>>
>>No problem... my current favorite freebie/cheapie VST comps
>>(and I say "Current" because one never knows what one will
>>stumble across, does one?) are as follows:
>>
>>Cheapies first:
>>Voxengo Transmodder... Damn this thing RAWKS on drums! Someone
>>here on this NG turned me onto this one (I can't find the
>>thread as to who it was, but please step forward & take
>>credit!). It's only like 59 bucks, and it kills on drums.
>>
>>Voxengo Voxformer... Another $59 or thereabouts killer
>>compressor that also does much more... I have no use for
>>anything else on lead vocals anymore - truly. go check it out &
>>download the demo, but if you do so, be prepared to shell out,
>>because you'll love it. This has also replaced my former
>>favorite de-esser plugin (Spitfish) for that purpose.
>>
>>Now for the Freebies:
>>BuzzMaxi2... this is a GREAT transparant peak limiter, for
>>either 2-buss peak limiting, but it also works great on kick.
>>From Buzzroom.
>>
>>Also from Buzzroom are Grancomp & Grancomp3 - in the same
>>freebie bundle they also have a "Genecomp" & "Genecomp 3", but
>>I find I don't use those very much). The grancomps are great
>>for guitar & bass, IMO. I find the single band is great for
>>guitar & the multi-band works really well for bass (the "3" is
>>the multiband version of each).
>>
>>Finally, the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor... IMO, this is good
>>for cymbals/OH's, and sometimes bass... it also can work pretty well on
>background
>>vocals if you don't want to suck up several tracks worth of Voxformer-level
>>CPU resources.
>>
>>Just Google the names I gave you - you should be able to find
>>them - if you can't let me know. Hope this is helpful.
>>
>>Neil
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69277 is a reply to message #69247] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 05:38 |
zmora
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John
Simple , use my method, plus put Paris EQ vst on all insert "drums chanells"(native
plugins insert).With Paris EQ vst you'll controlled volume & freq of drums
elements.If you still don't understand, I'll send to your mail-box pictures.
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>now i'm totally lost
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>Aaron Allen wrote:
>> You can use VST/DX for EQ and Gain to further this technique.
>> AA
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>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote in message news:448d64f9$1@linux...
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>>>John, use two auxes both with st.compressors.
>>>On aux 1 use yours compressor setting, on aux2 set compressor ratio 1:1,
>>>it's mesn sound no compressed.Mute chanells with drums in mixer and keep
>>>aux in "pre fader modes" in aux setting on chanell.Now you'll mixed all
in
>>>aux master section,aux1 >aux2 by
>>>"return trim".Keep attention, use the same lookahead setting for both
>>>compressors!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Maybe you should use anly aux for all, I mean mixed aux-dry drum &
>>>>aux-compressed
>>>>drum with muted chanells?
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>by the way, there sure a lot of crappy vst compressors out there.
>>>>
>>
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69278 is a reply to message #69277] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 06:10 |
zmora
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Or, simple use freq and eq volume from channels.It works before comp.
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
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>John
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>Simple , use my method, plus put Paris EQ vst on all insert "drums chanells"(native
>plugins insert).With Paris EQ vst you'll controlled volume & freq of drums
>elements.If you still don't understand, I'll send to your mail-box pictures.
>
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>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>now i'm totally lost
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>>Aaron Allen wrote:
>>> You can use VST/DX for EQ and Gain to further this technique.
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote in message news:448d64f9$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>John, use two auxes both with st.compressors.
>>>>On aux 1 use yours compressor setting, on aux2 set compressor ratio 1:1,
>>>>it's mesn sound no compressed.Mute chanells with drums in mixer and keep
>>>>aux in "pre fader modes" in aux setting on chanell.Now you'll mixed all
>in
>>>>aux master section,aux1 >aux2 by
>>>>"return trim".Keep attention, use the same lookahead setting for both
>
>>>>compressors!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe you should use anly aux for all, I mean mixed aux-dry drum &
>>>>>aux-compressed
>>>>>drum with muted chanells?
>>>>>
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>by the way, there sure a lot of crappy vst compressors out there.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69305 is a reply to message #69267] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 18:31 |
Deej [1]
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I think I described it incorrectly. I'm in the middle of a mastering right
now. I'll figure this out again and post it up once I do.
DJ
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:448e26a2$1@linux...
>
> These are zero latency?
>
> Hey D, I tried your native submix idea, using VST on auxes ther, they
showed
> up, but no sound, what am I doing wrong?
>
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >>
> >>Neil,
> >>Please share...
> >>Regards,
> >>Dimitrios
> >
> >No problem... my current favorite freebie/cheapie VST comps
> >(and I say "Current" because one never knows what one will
> >stumble across, does one?) are as follows:
> >
> >Cheapies first:
> >Voxengo Transmodder... Damn this thing RAWKS on drums! Someone
> >here on this NG turned me onto this one (I can't find the
> >thread as to who it was, but please step forward & take
> >credit!). It's only like 59 bucks, and it kills on drums.
> >
> >Voxengo Voxformer... Another $59 or thereabouts killer
> >compressor that also does much more... I have no use for
> >anything else on lead vocals anymore - truly. go check it out &
> >download the demo, but if you do so, be prepared to shell out,
> >because you'll love it. This has also replaced my former
> >favorite de-esser plugin (Spitfish) for that purpose.
> >
> >Now for the Freebies:
> >BuzzMaxi2... this is a GREAT transparant peak limiter, for
> >either 2-buss peak limiting, but it also works great on kick.
> >From Buzzroom.
> >
> >Also from Buzzroom are Grancomp & Grancomp3 - in the same
> >freebie bundle they also have a "Genecomp" & "Genecomp 3", but
> >I find I don't use those very much). The grancomps are great
> >for guitar & bass, IMO. I find the single band is great for
> >guitar & the multi-band works really well for bass (the "3" is
> >the multiband version of each).
> >
> >Finally, the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor... IMO, this is good
> >for cymbals/OH's, and sometimes bass... it also can work pretty well on
> background
> >vocals if you don't want to suck up several tracks worth of
Voxformer-level
> >CPU resources.
> >
> >Just Google the names I gave you - you should be able to find
> >them - if you can't let me know. Hope this is helpful.
> >
> >Neil
> >
> >
> >
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69307 is a reply to message #69267] |
Tue, 13 June 2006 19:30 |
Deej [1]
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Scott,
I am assuming that you are either playing back a track from Cubase SX into
Paris or are looping a track that is being played back in Paris through
Cubase. Make sure you have ASIO direct monitoring turned off in both the
control panel for your audio hardware and in Cubase. If you are looping the
track through cubase, you will need to have the monitoring with effects
enabled and unless you are looping "all" your Paris tracks through Cubase,
you will need to have your latency set to 1.5ms in order for Cubase PDC to
work properly. Any higher buffers and it sorta falls apart using this
method. that's why on projects wwith high track counts where I'll be using
lots of plugins this way, I usually use Sx as the host to stream tracks from
SX to Paris .............but anyway..........
........so .......here's how.......
1. Route your digital I/O in the Paris patchbay to work on a certain Paris
aux bus. Set this Paris aux to "external'
2. Connect the Paris digital output to the native soundcard digital input.
3. Connect the native soundcard digital output to the Paris digital input.
4. In Cubase, go to the VST connections window and create a stereo input and
output bus using the native soundcard digital I/O that is sending/returning
from the Paris digital I/O
5. Next, go to the Group/X tab and "Add FX".
6. Choose the effect you want sent/returned to/from the Paris aux
7. In your Cubase project window, create a stereo audio track and name it
Paris Aux. Choose the stereo inputs and outputs that you created in step 4
above and raise the channel fader to unity.
8. In the project window, go to the effect channel that is showing the
effect you created and set it's output to the stereo output bus that you
created in step 4 above (the same stereo output that you Paris Aux channel
(step 7 above) is using.
9. In the effect channel, insert the effect you have chosen for this channel
and raise the channel fader to unity.
10. On the audio channel you want to effect, instantiate the effect that you
want to use (the same effect that you created in #6 above and inserted in #9
above) as a "send" effect and drag the wet/dry to 100% wet.
11. Set the Paris aux to stereo and start playback.
Now you can pan this effect L/R and control the send and return levels with
the Paris aux. I know this looks like a hassle, but once it's set up as a
template, it's easy to use. I've got the 8 ADAT I/O and the spdif I/O of my
Multiface set up as 5 aux busses interfacing with an ADAT card in my MEC #4.
I just use this submix as an aux send/return to Cubase. Works like a charm.
I've got live access to 5 x VST aux effects in 5 x Paris auxes this way.
Deej
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:448e26a2$1@linux...
>
> These are zero latency?
>
> Hey D, I tried your native submix idea, using VST on auxes ther, they
showed
> up, but no sound, what am I doing wrong?
>
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >>
> >>Neil,
> >>Please share...
> >>Regards,
> >>Dimitrios
> >
> >No problem... my current favorite freebie/cheapie VST comps
> >(and I say "Current" because one never knows what one will
> >stumble across, does one?) are as follows:
> >
> >Cheapies first:
> >Voxengo Transmodder... Damn this thing RAWKS on drums! Someone
> >here on this NG turned me onto this one (I can't find the
> >thread as to who it was, but please step forward & take
> >credit!). It's only like 59 bucks, and it kills on drums.
> >
> >Voxengo Voxformer... Another $59 or thereabouts killer
> >compressor that also does much more... I have no use for
> >anything else on lead vocals anymore - truly. go check it out &
> >download the demo, but if you do so, be prepared to shell out,
> >because you'll love it. This has also replaced my former
> >favorite de-esser plugin (Spitfish) for that purpose.
> >
> >Now for the Freebies:
> >BuzzMaxi2... this is a GREAT transparant peak limiter, for
> >either 2-buss peak limiting, but it also works great on kick.
> >From Buzzroom.
> >
> >Also from Buzzroom are Grancomp & Grancomp3 - in the same
> >freebie bundle they also have a "Genecomp" & "Genecomp 3", but
> >I find I don't use those very much). The grancomps are great
> >for guitar & bass, IMO. I find the single band is great for
> >guitar & the multi-band works really well for bass (the "3" is
> >the multiband version of each).
> >
> >Finally, the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor... IMO, this is good
> >for cymbals/OH's, and sometimes bass... it also can work pretty well on
> background
> >vocals if you don't want to suck up several tracks worth of
Voxformer-level
> >CPU resources.
> >
> >Just Google the names I gave you - you should be able to find
> >them - if you can't let me know. Hope this is helpful.
> >
> >Neil
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69319 is a reply to message #69275] |
Wed, 14 June 2006 06:22 |
Cujjo
Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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Dimitrios mentioned being able to do it on a Native submix,
I checked it out, and sure enough it is there, but I get no sound.Having
never used the native submix feature I am sure I am doing somehting wrong.
This would be great for say UAD plate 140!
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>How can you get a VST on an aux? Mine just shows EDS.
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>These are zero latency?
>>
>>Hey D, I tried your native submix idea, using VST on auxes ther, they showed
>>up, but no sound, what am I doing wrong?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Neil,
>>>>Please share...
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dimitrios
>>>
>>>No problem... my current favorite freebie/cheapie VST comps
>>>(and I say "Current" because one never knows what one will
>>>stumble across, does one?) are as follows:
>>>
>>>Cheapies first:
>>>Voxengo Transmodder... Damn this thing RAWKS on drums! Someone
>>>here on this NG turned me onto this one (I can't find the
>>>thread as to who it was, but please step forward & take
>>>credit!). It's only like 59 bucks, and it kills on drums.
>>>
>>>Voxengo Voxformer... Another $59 or thereabouts killer
>>>compressor that also does much more... I have no use for
>>>anything else on lead vocals anymore - truly. go check it out &
>>>download the demo, but if you do so, be prepared to shell out,
>>>because you'll love it. This has also replaced my former
>>>favorite de-esser plugin (Spitfish) for that purpose.
>>>
>>>Now for the Freebies:
>>>BuzzMaxi2... this is a GREAT transparant peak limiter, for
>>>either 2-buss peak limiting, but it also works great on kick.
>>>From Buzzroom.
>>>
>>>Also from Buzzroom are Grancomp & Grancomp3 - in the same
>>>freebie bundle they also have a "Genecomp" & "Genecomp 3", but
>>>I find I don't use those very much). The grancomps are great
>>>for guitar & bass, IMO. I find the single band is great for
>>>guitar & the multi-band works really well for bass (the "3" is
>>>the multiband version of each).
>>>
>>>Finally, the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor... IMO, this is good
>>>for cymbals/OH's, and sometimes bass... it also can work pretty well on
>>background
>>>vocals if you don't want to suck up several tracks worth of Voxformer-level
>>>CPU resources.
>>>
>>>Just Google the names I gave you - you should be able to find
>>>them - if you can't let me know. Hope this is helpful.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Aux channels compression [message #69322 is a reply to message #69319] |
Wed, 14 June 2006 09:26 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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ahhhh.......sorry........I thought you were inquiring about using VST FX on
Paris auxes using Cubase Sx as the audio host. I explained it below if
you're interested.
Deej
"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:44900d9c$1@linux...
>
>
> Dimitrios mentioned being able to do it on a Native submix,
> I checked it out, and sure enough it is there, but I get no sound.Having
> never used the native submix feature I am sure I am doing somehting wrong.
> This would be great for say UAD plate 140!
>
>
>
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> >
> >How can you get a VST on an aux? Mine just shows EDS.
> >
> >"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>These are zero latency?
> >>
> >>Hey D, I tried your native submix idea, using VST on auxes ther, they
showed
> >>up, but no sound, what am I doing wrong?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>Neil,
> >>>>Please share...
> >>>>Regards,
> >>>>Dimitrios
> >>>
> >>>No problem... my current favorite freebie/cheapie VST comps
> >>>(and I say "Current" because one never knows what one will
> >>>stumble across, does one?) are as follows:
> >>>
> >>>Cheapies first:
> >>>Voxengo Transmodder... Damn this thing RAWKS on drums! Someone
> >>>here on this NG turned me onto this one (I can't find the
> >>>thread as to who it was, but please step forward & take
> >>>credit!). It's only like 59 bucks, and it kills on drums.
> >>>
> >>>Voxengo Voxformer... Another $59 or thereabouts killer
> >>>compressor that also does much more... I have no use for
> >>>anything else on lead vocals anymore - truly. go check it out &
> >>>download the demo, but if you do so, be prepared to shell out,
> >>>because you'll love it. This has also replaced my former
> >>>favorite de-esser plugin (Spitfish) for that purpose.
> >>>
> >>>Now for the Freebies:
> >>>BuzzMaxi2... this is a GREAT transparant peak limiter, for
> >>>either 2-buss peak limiting, but it also works great on kick.
> >>>From Buzzroom.
> >>>
> >>>Also from Buzzroom are Grancomp & Grancomp3 - in the same
> >>>freebie bundle they also have a "Genecomp" & "Genecomp 3", but
> >>>I find I don't use those very much). The grancomps are great
> >>>for guitar & bass, IMO. I find the single band is great for
> >>>guitar & the multi-band works really well for bass (the "3" is
> >>>the multiband version of each).
> >>>
> >>>Finally, the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor... IMO, this is good
> >>>for cymbals/OH's, and sometimes bass... it also can work pretty well on
> >>background
> >>>vocals if you don't want to suck up several tracks worth of
Voxformer-level
> >>>CPU resources.
> >>>
> >>>Just Google the names I gave you - you should be able to find
> >>>them - if you can't let me know. Hope this is helpful.
> >>>
> >>>Neil
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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