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How do you put a project to bed [message #83367]

Thu, 19 April 2007 04:40

Don Nafe

Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Hi all

Might be a dumb question but do you just archive the session including audio
files (unrendered) to a hard drive or DVD

or

Do you render all the tracks with or without plugins and save those PAFs
with the session

or

Do you render with plugins then convert all your PAFs to wav files and save
those

or

Do you create stems and save those .

or

Do you just wipe that hard drive clean and move on

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Re: How do you put a project to bed [message #83369 is a reply to message #83367]

Thu, 19 April 2007 06:30

John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

I just save all the projects to a backup hard drive or DVD if it will fit.
I don't trust DVDs so I would burn 2 copies.

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Re: How do you put a project to bed [message #83371 is a reply to message #83367]

Thu, 19 April 2007 06:38

John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

I usually render all the tracks unprocessed and put
them in song folders so they can be transferred to any other system.

Then I give them the full, original PARIS session.

Don't forget track mixes and track w/ background vocals...

Put all this on their drive...

All of course, after the check clears... :)

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Hi all
>
>Might be a dumb question but do you just archive the session including audio

>files (unrendered) to a hard drive or DVD
>
>or
>
>Do you render all the tracks with or without plugins and save those PAFs

>with the session
>
>or
>
>Do you render with plugins then convert all your PAFs to wav files and save

>those
>
>or
>
>Do you create stems and save those .
>
>or
>
>Do you just wipe that hard drive clean and move on
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: How do you put a project to bed [message #83372 is a reply to message #83367]

Thu, 19 April 2007 06:40

TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007

Senior Member

If it's for me I get around this problem by cagily never finishing anything.
If it's for someone else I usually suggest backing up the project to optical
media and throwing the whole thing onto a hard drive they can stash in a
drawer somewhere. With luck, if they need it down the road one of the other
likely won't be broken. If you want to be extra future proof you might do
an OMF export and/or batch convert the .paf files to .wav files.

TCB

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Hi all
>
>Might be a dumb question but do you just archive the session including audio

>files (unrendered) to a hard drive or DVD
>
>or
>
>Do you render all the tracks with or without plugins and save those PAFs

>with the session
>
>or
>
>Do you render with plugins then convert all your PAFs to wav files and save

>those
>
>or
>
>Do you create stems and save those .
>
>or
>
>Do you just wipe that hard drive clean and move on
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: How do you put a project to bed [message #83380 is a reply to message #83367]

Thu, 19 April 2007 08:29

gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

For me it's removable hard drive trays. Fill them up, archive the contents
with CDFinder and put away in a dark, dust proof place that never gets too
hot or cold. I keep the drives in trays when in storage, so bringing them
back only takes a few seconds. I only save the original Paris files and project
folder plus project notes. I do generally save a second copy of the final
ppj with plugins removed. Older CDs and DVDs have failed on me. So far,
all my old drives are still working. I do try to spin each drive up once
or twice a year.

Major-label work also gets a DVD written that is kept �off site� in a safety
deposit box at my bank. These projects also get screen shots of plugins and
track layouts as well as wave files rendered. Many labels want finals turned
in a Pro Tools files.

My trays are compatible with the two producers I frequently collaborate with,
so working with them is easy.

For non-Paris projects or collaborations, I generally use wave files or Pro
Tools files on an external Firewire drive. I use the same concept for long-term
storage, but I remove the drives from the Firewire enclosure before storage.

CDFinder creates a nice small searchable database of all the contents of
every hard drive and optical drive I have in storage. It works with both
my Mac and PC storage media. Now that OSX has Spotlight, I can even search
for comments I wrote 10 years ago within my session notes. Like�What song
did I use that Didgeridoo player in around 1999?

Gene

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Hi all
>
>Might be a dumb question but do you just archive the session including audio

>files (unrendered) to a hard drive or DVD
>
>or
>
>Do you render all the tracks with or without plugins and save those PAFs

>with the session
>
>or
>
>Do you render with plugins then convert all your PAFs to wav files and save

>those
>
>or
>
>Do you create stems and save those .
>
>or
>
>Do you just wipe that hard drive clean and move on
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: How do you put a project to bed [message #83384 is a reply to message #83367]

Thu, 19 April 2007 08:45

rick

Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

for the mac...firewire
for the pc both firewire and removable drives
all data

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:40:10 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:

>Hi all
>
>Might be a dumb question but do you just archive the session including audio
>files (unrendered) to a hard drive or DVD
>
>or
>
>Do you render all the tracks with or without plugins and save those PAFs
>with the session
>
>or
>
>Do you render with plugins then convert all your PAFs to wav files and save
>those
>
>or
>
>Do you create stems and save those .
>
>or
>
>Do you just wipe that hard drive clean and move on
>
>
>
>

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Re: How do you put a project to bed [message #83401 is a reply to message #83384]

Thu, 19 April 2007 11:16

Don Nafe

Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

I was expecting "With a glass of water, a bedtime story and a kiss on the
forehead."

C'mon Rick, you're slipping

:-)

Don

"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gi3f23peiaj3s65as4pa382oij99mbec40@4ax.com...
> for the mac...firewire
> for the pc both firewire and removable drives
> all data
>
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:40:10 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>>Hi all
>>
>>Might be a dumb question but do you just archive the session including
>>audio
>>files (unrendered) to a hard drive or DVD
>>
>>or
>>
>>Do you render all the tracks with or without plugins and save those PAFs
>>with the session
>>
>>or
>>
>>Do you render with plugins then convert all your PAFs to wav files and
>>save
>>those
>>
>>or
>>
>>Do you create stems and save those .
>>
>>or
>>
>>Do you just wipe that hard drive clean and move on
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: How do you put a project to bed [message #83406 is a reply to message #83367]

Thu, 19 April 2007 11:27

Deej [4]

Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007

Senior Member

I never finish a mix.

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:46275607@linux...
> Hi all
>
> Might be a dumb question but do you just archive the session including
> audio files (unrendered) to a hard drive or DVD
>
> or
>
> Do you render all the tracks with or without plugins and save those PAFs
> with the session
>
> or
>
> Do you render with plugins then convert all your PAFs to wav files and
> save those
>
> or
>
> Do you create stems and save those .
>
> or
>
> Do you just wipe that hard drive clean and move on
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: How do you put a project to bed [message #83408 is a reply to message #83401]

Thu, 19 April 2007 11:36

rick

Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

i was going to say...it depends on her name but, i thought you really
wanted to know. had i known it was a loaded question just for me i
definitely would have answered differently...sorry...;o(

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:16:46 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:

>I was expecting "With a glass of water, a bedtime story and a kiss on the
>forehead."
>
>C'mon Rick, you're slipping
>
>:-)
>
>Don
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:gi3f23peiaj3s65as4pa382oij99mbec40@4ax.com...
>> for the mac...firewire
>> for the pc both firewire and removable drives
>> all data
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:40:10 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all
>>>
>>>Might be a dumb question but do you just archive the session including
>>>audio
>>>files (unrendered) to a hard drive or DVD
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>Do you render all the tracks with or without plugins and save those PAFs
>>>with the session
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>Do you render with plugins then convert all your PAFs to wav files and
>>>save
>>>those
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>Do you create stems and save those .
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>Do you just wipe that hard drive clean and move on
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: How do you put a project to bed [message #83425 is a reply to message #83367]

Thu, 19 April 2007 15:39

EK Sound

Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

For larger sessions, I hand the drive over(that I made the customer
buy in the first place) to the client and wave goodbye! ;-)

For smaller sessions, I give them a CD master and tell them that I
will archive the session for 1 year. If they want a copy, I will burn
DVD's of the folder and charge them for it... or, they can bring a
hard drive in and i will transfer for free.

David.

Don Nafe wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Might be a dumb question but do you just archive the session including audio
> files (unrendered) to a hard drive or DVD
>
> or
>
> Do you render all the tracks with or without plugins and save those PAFs
> with the session
>
> or
>
> Do you render with plugins then convert all your PAFs to wav files and save
> those
>
> or
>
> Do you create stems and save those .
>
> or
>
> Do you just wipe that hard drive clean and move on
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: How do you put a project to bed [message #83429 is a reply to message #83406]

Thu, 19 April 2007 19:39

Jamie K

Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

DJ wrote:
> I never finish a mix.

LOL! Me neither. A mix cannot be completely finished, really. But when I
move on to the next one, I archive on CDR or DVDR.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:46275607@linux...
>> Hi all
>>
>> Might be a dumb question but do you just archive the session including
>> audio files (unrendered) to a hard drive or DVD
>>
>> or
>>
>> Do you render all the tracks with or without plugins and save those PAFs
>> with the session
>>
>> or
>>
>> Do you render with plugins then convert all your PAFs to wav files and
>> save those
>>
>> or
>>
>> Do you create stems and save those .
>>
>> or
>>
>> Do you just wipe that hard drive clean and move on
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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