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| For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75595] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 07:23  |
Neil
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OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
week), the problem therein is...
b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
not "dark".
c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
anything like this.
Neil
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75596 is a reply to message #75595] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 06:39  |
Chris Ludwig
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HI Neil,
The Multifaces do not have an internal memory like the Fireface series.
If for what reason they ever lost power then they would lose whatever
setting you did. You would have to have the PCI card installed in order
to redo those settings.
Chris
Neil wrote:
>OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>
>a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>week), the problem therein is...
>
>b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>not "dark".
>
>c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>
>d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>anything like this.
>
>Neil
>
>
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ADK
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75601 is a reply to message #75595] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 08:33 |
LaMont
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Hi Neil,
For what it's worth, Paris converters were are described as being "dark"
sounding. That's not a bad thing when you're using native apps like Sx/Nuendo
& Pro Tools which have a very clean sound. Adding converters with some character
is not a bad thing. Some people don't like pristine clean Myteks..I prefer
Apogees AD/DAX 16 converters with soft limit..
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>
>a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>week), the problem therein is...
>
>b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>not "dark".
>
>c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>
>d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>anything like this.
>
>Neil
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75602 is a reply to message #75595] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 08:01 |
John [1]
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I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but 2
get you 16.
John
Neil wrote:
> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>
> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
> week), the problem therein is...
>
> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
> not "dark".
>
> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>
> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
> anything like this.
>
> Neil
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75604 is a reply to message #75596] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 09:15 |
neil[1]
Messages: 164
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Chris... not sure what you're referring to here.
If I were to use the Multiface as a stand-alone convertor, then
any settings (like samplerate/bitstream rate, monitoring levels,
etc) would be done in the Pulsar card/software anyway.
Am I missing something else?
Neil
>HI Neil,
>The Multifaces do not have an internal memory like the Fireface series.
>If for what reason they ever lost power then they would lose whatever
>setting you did. You would have to have the PCI card installed in order
>to redo those settings.
>
>
>Chris
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>
>Neil wrote:
>
>>OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>
>>a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>week), the problem therein is...
>>
>>b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>not "dark".
>>
>>c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>
>>d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>anything like this.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
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>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75605 is a reply to message #75602] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 09:18 |
Neil
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Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
one unit.
Neil
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but 2
>get you 16.
>John
>
>Neil wrote:
>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>
>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>> week), the problem therein is...
>>
>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>> not "dark".
>>
>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>
>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>> anything like this.
>>
>> Neil
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75607 is a reply to message #75595] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 08:32 |
DJ
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Hey Neil,
I'll have the A16U in here hopefully early next week. If you read the
remainder of the thread on Planet Z, you'll see quite a few posts attesting
to the fact that the older A16 units had some problems but the newer one is
better....yadda, yadda. I'll let you know my thoughts once I get it wired in
and record something through it.
As LaMont said, the Paris converters are considered sorta dark too. I like
their sound personally.
Deej
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4551e852$1@linux...
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> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>
> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
> week), the problem therein is...
>
> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
> not "dark".
>
> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>
> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
> anything like this.
>
> Neil
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75609 is a reply to message #75605] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 08:34 |
DJ
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I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode. Just
route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
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> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
> one unit.
>
> Neil
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but 2
>
>>get you 16.
>>John
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>
>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>
>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>> not "dark".
>>>
>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>
>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>> anything like this.
>>>
>>> Neil
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75614 is a reply to message #75609] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 09:42 |
Neil
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Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
(instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
channels at once on one Pulsar card?
ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
for example.
Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
Neil
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode. Just
>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>
>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>
>;o)
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
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>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>> one unit.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
2
>>
>>>get you 16.
>>>John
>>>
>>>Neil wrote:
>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>
>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>
>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>> not "dark".
>>>>
>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>
>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>> anything like this.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75617 is a reply to message #75614] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 09:14 |
DJ
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>I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
channels at once on one Pulsar card?<
I think the answer to this is a resounding *yes*, if you use theZLink
interface.
I'll give the Multiface a try as a standalone box in the next day or two.
I'll need to scrounge up a PSU for it.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520908@linux...
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> Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
> notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
> (instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
> SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
> SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
>
> You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
> powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
> to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
> second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
> if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
>
> Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
> 88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
> Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
> it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
> samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
> their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
> channels at once on one Pulsar card?
>
> ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
>
> Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
> could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
> one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
> transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
> for example.
>
> Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode.
>>Just
>
>>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>>
>>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>>> one unit.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
> 2
>>>
>>>>get you 16.
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>>
>>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>>
>>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>>> not "dark".
>>>>>
>>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>>
>>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>>> anything like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75618 is a reply to message #75614] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 10:07 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
|
Senior Member |
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Hey you guys...
I am glad that made some kind of towards Pulsar and what it can do with Paris.
Regarding the 88.1khz only being 8 channel ,no you can have 24 channels at
88.1 !!
Simply by using 3 pulsar cards !
Each has 16 adat ins at 44.1 and 8 at 88.1.
Regarding now ad quality !
Get an ad converters at midlevel price that accept wordclock and get Mytel
studioclock !
Your converters will be automatically upgraded !
I am convinced that the very expensive ones have great jitter rejection reclocking
whatever that is "clockwise" that makes all the difference from a point and
thereafter.
RME ADI-pro8 converters were so and so in my own oppinion.
I like more the Paris !< but now rme clocked from Mytek is a damn truly exceptional
ad converter.
Oh frogot I changed also the stock shitty 4580 opa to a LN6172.
I have never heard a converter like this now !
So get yourself a good mid level ad like Adi-PRO even Marian has a good ad/da
8 channel converter at 320 Euros !!
Clock the from a clock like mytek.
Regards,
DImitrios
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
>notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
>(instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
>SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
>SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
>
>You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
>powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
>to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
>second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
>if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
>
>Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
>88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
>Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
>it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
>samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
>their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
>channels at once on one Pulsar card?
>
>ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
>
>Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
>could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
>one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
>transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
>for example.
>
>Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode.
Just
>
>>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>>
>>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>>> one unit.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
>2
>>>
>>>>get you 16.
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>>
>>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>>
>>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>>> not "dark".
>>>>>
>>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>>
>>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>>> anything like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75619 is a reply to message #75618] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 10:13 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Senior Member |
|
|
My God,
the worst english I have ever written !!
Sorry !
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hey you guys...
>I am glad that made some kind of towards Pulsar and what it can do with
Paris.
>Regarding the 88.1khz only being 8 channel ,no you can have 24 channels
at
>88.1 !!
>Simply by using 3 pulsar cards !
>Each has 16 adat ins at 44.1 and 8 at 88.1.
>Regarding now ad quality !
>Get an ad converters at midlevel price that accept wordclock and get Mytel
>studioclock !
>Your converters will be automatically upgraded !
>I am convinced that the very expensive ones have great jitter rejection
reclocking
>whatever that is "clockwise" that makes all the difference from a point
and
>thereafter.
>RME ADI-pro8 converters were so and so in my own oppinion.
>I like more the Paris !< but now rme clocked from Mytek is a damn truly
exceptional
>ad converter.
>Oh frogot I changed also the stock shitty 4580 opa to a LN6172.
>I have never heard a converter like this now !
>So get yourself a good mid level ad like Adi-PRO even Marian has a good
ad/da
>8 channel converter at 320 Euros !!
>Clock the from a clock like mytek.
>Regards,
>DImitrios
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
>>notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
>>(instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
>>SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
>>SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
>>
>>You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
>>powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
>>to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
>>second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
>>if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
>>
>>Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
>>88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
>>Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
>>it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
>>samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
>>their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
>>channels at once on one Pulsar card?
>>
>>ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
>>
>>Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
>>could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
>>one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
>>transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
>>for example.
>>
>>Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode.
>Just
>>
>>>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>>>
>>>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>>>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>>>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>>>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>>>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>>>> one unit.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
>>2
>>>>
>>>>>get you 16.
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>>>> not "dark".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>>>> anything like this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75622 is a reply to message #75619] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 09:36 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
That's OK.....you don't even want to see me try to speak Greek.
;o)
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@OTENET.GR> wrote in message news:45521035$1@linux...
>
> My God,
> the worst english I have ever written !!
> Sorry !
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hey you guys...
>>I am glad that made some kind of towards Pulsar and what it can do with
> Paris.
>>Regarding the 88.1khz only being 8 channel ,no you can have 24 channels
> at
>>88.1 !!
>>Simply by using 3 pulsar cards !
>>Each has 16 adat ins at 44.1 and 8 at 88.1.
>>Regarding now ad quality !
>>Get an ad converters at midlevel price that accept wordclock and get
>>Mytel
>>studioclock !
>>Your converters will be automatically upgraded !
>>I am convinced that the very expensive ones have great jitter rejection
> reclocking
>>whatever that is "clockwise" that makes all the difference from a point
> and
>>thereafter.
>>RME ADI-pro8 converters were so and so in my own oppinion.
>>I like more the Paris !< but now rme clocked from Mytek is a damn truly
> exceptional
>>ad converter.
>>Oh frogot I changed also the stock shitty 4580 opa to a LN6172.
>>I have never heard a converter like this now !
>>So get yourself a good mid level ad like Adi-PRO even Marian has a good
> ad/da
>>8 channel converter at 320 Euros !!
>>Clock the from a clock like mytek.
>>Regards,
>>DImitrios
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
>>>notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
>>>(instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
>>>SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
>>>SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
>>>
>>>You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
>>>powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
>>>to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
>>>second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
>>>if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
>>>
>>>Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
>>>88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
>>>Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
>>>it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
>>>samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
>>>their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
>>>channels at once on one Pulsar card?
>>>
>>>ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
>>>
>>>Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
>>>could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
>>>one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
>>>transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
>>>for example.
>>>
>>>Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>>>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode.
>>Just
>>>
>>>>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>>>>
>>>>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>>>>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>>>>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>>>>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>>>>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>>>>> one unit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
>>>2
>>>>>
>>>>>>get you 16.
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>>>>> not "dark".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>>>>> anything like this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75624 is a reply to message #75619] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 09:42 |
AlexPlasko
Messages: 211
Registered: September 2006
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Senior Member |
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|
what planet are you on ? :-)
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@OTENET.GR> wrote in message news:45521035$1@linux...
>
> My God,
> the worst english I have ever written !!
> Sorry !
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hey you guys...
>>I am glad that made some kind of towards Pulsar and what it can do with
> Paris.
>>Regarding the 88.1khz only being 8 channel ,no you can have 24 channels
> at
>>88.1 !!
>>Simply by using 3 pulsar cards !
>>Each has 16 adat ins at 44.1 and 8 at 88.1.
>>Regarding now ad quality !
>>Get an ad converters at midlevel price that accept wordclock and get
>>Mytel
>>studioclock !
>>Your converters will be automatically upgraded !
>>I am convinced that the very expensive ones have great jitter rejection
> reclocking
>>whatever that is "clockwise" that makes all the difference from a point
> and
>>thereafter.
>>RME ADI-pro8 converters were so and so in my own oppinion.
>>I like more the Paris !< but now rme clocked from Mytek is a damn truly
> exceptional
>>ad converter.
>>Oh frogot I changed also the stock shitty 4580 opa to a LN6172.
>>I have never heard a converter like this now !
>>So get yourself a good mid level ad like Adi-PRO even Marian has a good
> ad/da
>>8 channel converter at 320 Euros !!
>>Clock the from a clock like mytek.
>>Regards,
>>DImitrios
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
>>>notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
>>>(instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
>>>SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
>>>SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
>>>
>>>You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
>>>powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
>>>to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
>>>second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
>>>if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
>>>
>>>Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
>>>88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
>>>Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
>>>it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
>>>samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
>>>their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
>>>channels at once on one Pulsar card?
>>>
>>>ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
>>>
>>>Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
>>>could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
>>>one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
>>>transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
>>>for example.
>>>
>>>Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>>>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode.
>>Just
>>>
>>>>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>>>>
>>>>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>>>>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>>>>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>>>>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>>>>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>>>>> one unit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
>>>2
>>>>>
>>>>>>get you 16.
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>>>>> not "dark".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>>>>> anything like this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75626 is a reply to message #75605] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 10:35 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
|
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Neil,
You can use the Multiface in standalone mode. How to do this:
Go into the RME control panel and open the settings dialog. Change the
setting to "Disconnect". It will now function in standalone mode.
The power supply for the Multiface 1 unit is called the:
HDSPNTCB
In disconnect mode you will be able to use the ADAT ports to connect the
Pulsar card and use the Multiface's A/D and D/A converters and you will also
be able to connect external stereo A/D and D/A converters to the Multiface
s/pdif I/O.
Very cool indeed.
Deej
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>
> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
> one unit.
>
> Neil
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but 2
>
>>get you 16.
>>John
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>
>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>
>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>> not "dark".
>>>
>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>
>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>> anything like this.
>>>
>>> Neil
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| Re: For those of you following DJ's Pulsar saga... [message #75699 is a reply to message #75604] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 07:08 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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HI Neil,
YOu would have to use the Multifaces internal routing to send the ADAT
from the Pulsars to the Analog I/O of the Multiface.
Chris
Neil wrote:
>Chris... not sure what you're referring to here.
>If I were to use the Multiface as a stand-alone convertor, then
>any settings (like samplerate/bitstream rate, monitoring levels,
>etc) would be done in the Pulsar card/software anyway.
>
>Am I missing something else?
>
>Neil
>
>
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>>HI Neil,
>>The Multifaces do not have an internal memory like the Fireface series.
>>
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>>If for what reason they ever lost power then they would lose whatever
>>setting you did. You would have to have the PCI card installed in order
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>>to redo those settings.
>>
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>>Chris
>>
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>
>>>a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>week), the problem therein is...
>>>
>>>b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>not "dark".
>>>
>>>c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>
>>>d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>anything like this.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
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--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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