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Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #62961 is a reply to message #62954] |
Thu, 12 January 2006 11:07 |
duncan
Messages: 123 Registered: November 2006
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I did this for several years, as did many others... I ran Cubase out
to an RME card slaved to incoming ADAT timecode from Paris... Worked
okay for a while -- and this was on an 800Mhz Athlon with maybe 256
RAM... I'm sure you could work something out -- you'll need an extra
soundcard in there, obviously... I mean, something other than Paris.
Then you pipe the output back to your MEC in whatever form --S'Pdif,
adat, analogue, whatever -- for monitoring in Paris. I never tried
this on one computer under XP, by the way. Probably would be at least
as good or better. My set-up now is Paris on 98SE sending ADAT sync
to another computer running Cubase SX3 (under XP, of course)... Works
okay for my needs these days.
Short answer is -- yes. (but the long answer is at least...
longer...)
-- good luck -- Chas
On 13 Jan 2006 04:43:17 +1000, "Pete Ruthenburg"
<ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
>couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
>Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>
> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
>this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
>and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
>DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
>to deal with all that right now.
>
> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
>and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>
>THanks,
>Pete
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Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #62963 is a reply to message #62962] |
Thu, 12 January 2006 11:19 |
Jorsi
Messages: 23 Registered: December 2005
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The good thing about paris is that it does not need much of the cpu unless
you are using a lot of plug-ins, so you can use Cubase as the midi and audio
editing tool; run vst instruments like sampler, reason. you can can sync
Cubase and paris through midi, if you have adat-card in paris you can send
what you have recorded in paris to Cubase and do some editing and send it
back to Paris.
DJ have done a lot of experiment on this!! if you want to know more you can
search on this NG about it.
Hope it helps
Jorsi
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:43c6a9a3$1@linux...
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> Hey Jorsi,cool.How are you using it?Are you doing midi type stuff
> in Cubase synched to Paris.Doing any VTSi stuff?UAD-1 at all in
> Cubase?
>
> I guess its all relative as to what you can and can't do and
> would just require some experimentation as far as the number of
> VSTi plugs and effects plugs that can be run.
>
> Thanks for the info,
> Pete
> "Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>>Yes! you can use Paris and Cubase on the same PC at the same time!! all
> you
>>need to have is another sound-card for Cubase.
>>I've been using Paris and Cubase for years without probs.
>>
>>Hope it helps
>>Jorsi
>>
>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:43c69535$1@linux...
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>>> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
>>> couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
>>> Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>>>
>>> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
>>> this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
>>> and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
>>> DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
>>> to deal with all that right now.
>>>
>>> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
>>> and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>>>
>>> THanks,
>>> Pete
>>
>>
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Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #62986 is a reply to message #62961] |
Thu, 12 January 2006 21:12 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988 Registered: May 2008
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I can tell you that Vegas 4 won't do it :)
BSOD every time, I gave it up after a while and just sync'd one of the other
10 or so PC's I had laying around at the time.
AA
"Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in message
news:cn9ds1l7ku0mjs36duia58a4cevvl39kj3@4ax.com...
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> I did this for several years, as did many others... I ran Cubase out
> to an RME card slaved to incoming ADAT timecode from Paris... Worked
> okay for a while -- and this was on an 800Mhz Athlon with maybe 256
> RAM... I'm sure you could work something out -- you'll need an extra
> soundcard in there, obviously... I mean, something other than Paris.
> Then you pipe the output back to your MEC in whatever form --S'Pdif,
> adat, analogue, whatever -- for monitoring in Paris. I never tried
> this on one computer under XP, by the way. Probably would be at least
> as good or better. My set-up now is Paris on 98SE sending ADAT sync
> to another computer running Cubase SX3 (under XP, of course)... Works
> okay for my needs these days.
>
> Short answer is -- yes. (but the long answer is at least...
> longer...)
>
> -- good luck -- Chas
>
>
> On 13 Jan 2006 04:43:17 +1000, "Pete Ruthenburg"
> <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
>>couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
>>Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>>
>> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
>>this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
>>and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
>>DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
>>to deal with all that right now.
>>
>> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
>>and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>>
>>THanks,
>>Pete
>
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Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #62989 is a reply to message #62986] |
Thu, 12 January 2006 22:12 |
espresso
Messages: 17 Registered: September 2005
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I've just got around to installing wormhole2 on my machine and can report
that running Nuendo and Paris together seems to be a workable solution to
Nuendo (Steinberg) functionality plus Paris sound. I have tested with a full
32 ch Nuendo mix with many many plugs including UAD stuff and sending via 8
groups to Paris. It definitely works. I'm thinking the more channels into
Paris - the merrier - so still have to see what the outer limits are. My
machine (XP) is a P4 3.2g on ASUS mb.
Note - I'm not trying to run the 2 programs in sync (yet - I imagine there
are large latency issues) just trying to get Paris sound out of Nuendo.
David.
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:43c73721$1@linux...
>I can tell you that Vegas 4 won't do it :)
> BSOD every time, I gave it up after a while and just sync'd one of the
> other 10 or so PC's I had laying around at the time.
> AA
>
>
> "Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in message
> news:cn9ds1l7ku0mjs36duia58a4cevvl39kj3@4ax.com...
>>
>> I did this for several years, as did many others... I ran Cubase out
>> to an RME card slaved to incoming ADAT timecode from Paris... Worked
>> okay for a while -- and this was on an 800Mhz Athlon with maybe 256
>> RAM... I'm sure you could work something out -- you'll need an extra
>> soundcard in there, obviously... I mean, something other than Paris.
>> Then you pipe the output back to your MEC in whatever form --S'Pdif,
>> adat, analogue, whatever -- for monitoring in Paris. I never tried
>> this on one computer under XP, by the way. Probably would be at least
>> as good or better. My set-up now is Paris on 98SE sending ADAT sync
>> to another computer running Cubase SX3 (under XP, of course)... Works
>> okay for my needs these days.
>>
>> Short answer is -- yes. (but the long answer is at least...
>> longer...)
>>
>> -- good luck -- Chas
>>
>>
>> On 13 Jan 2006 04:43:17 +1000, "Pete Ruthenburg"
>> <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
>>>couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
>>>Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>>>
>>> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
>>>this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
>>>and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
>>>DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
>>>to deal with all that right now.
>>>
>>> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
>>>and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>>>
>>>THanks,
>>>Pete
>>
>
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Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #63012 is a reply to message #62989] |
Fri, 13 January 2006 08:11 |
Pete Ruthenburg
Messages: 127 Registered: June 2005
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Thanks much for the info David.I haven't gotten into Wormhole yet
,but I plan to checl it out.So using wormhole your not using a
souncard of some kind for Nuendo into Paris,is that correct?Your
just doing it in the computer?
Thanks again,
Pete
"espresso" <audio@espressodigital.com> wrote:
>I've just got around to installing wormhole2 on my machine and can report
>that running Nuendo and Paris together seems to be a workable solution to
>Nuendo (Steinberg) functionality plus Paris sound. I have tested with a
full
>32 ch Nuendo mix with many many plugs including UAD stuff and sending via
8
>groups to Paris. It definitely works. I'm thinking the more channels into
>Paris - the merrier - so still have to see what the outer limits are. My
>machine (XP) is a P4 3.2g on ASUS mb.
>Note - I'm not trying to run the 2 programs in sync (yet - I imagine there
>are large latency issues) just trying to get Paris sound out of Nuendo.
>
>David.
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:43c73721$1@linux...
>>I can tell you that Vegas 4 won't do it :)
>> BSOD every time, I gave it up after a while and just sync'd one of the
>> other 10 or so PC's I had laying around at the time.
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in message
>> news:cn9ds1l7ku0mjs36duia58a4cevvl39kj3@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> I did this for several years, as did many others... I ran Cubase out
>>> to an RME card slaved to incoming ADAT timecode from Paris... Worked
>>> okay for a while -- and this was on an 800Mhz Athlon with maybe 256
>>> RAM... I'm sure you could work something out -- you'll need an extra
>>> soundcard in there, obviously... I mean, something other than Paris.
>>> Then you pipe the output back to your MEC in whatever form --S'Pdif,
>>> adat, analogue, whatever -- for monitoring in Paris. I never tried
>>> this on one computer under XP, by the way. Probably would be at least
>>> as good or better. My set-up now is Paris on 98SE sending ADAT sync
>>> to another computer running Cubase SX3 (under XP, of course)... Works
>>> okay for my needs these days.
>>>
>>> Short answer is -- yes. (but the long answer is at least...
>>> longer...)
>>>
>>> -- good luck -- Chas
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 Jan 2006 04:43:17 +1000, "Pete Ruthenburg"
>>> <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
>>>>couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
>>>>Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>>>>
>>>> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
>>>>this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
>>>>and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
>>>>DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
>>>>to deal with all that right now.
>>>>
>>>> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
>>>>and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>>>>
>>>>THanks,
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #63070 is a reply to message #63012] |
Sat, 14 January 2006 16:14 |
espresso
Messages: 17 Registered: September 2005
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Nuendo (and SX) needs a soundcard - asio compliant. I normally use the Paris
asio driver when I'm using Nuendo as I only do mixes and edits, as the
latency is pretty high ( I record in Paris). This is a problem when using
Nuendo and Paris together obviously. So for this excercise I just used a
generic asio driver with the onboard soundcard to run Nuendo - hey it
worked, but I now that I've 'proved' the idea I'm going to get either a
Tascam FW1884 to run with Nuendo ( and then Wormhole to Paris) or one of the
M-Audio roducts so that I have an option to bring in Protools sessions and
remain compatible with the rest of the world - something I find a need for
more and more lately.
To answer your question specifically - yes there are no external audio or
digital connections using Wormhole - just open up the 2 programs, setup as
many instances of the plug in each program as you need and you're good to
go. Note: you must run 'silent' tracks of audio in Paris to receive signal -
don't know why - just following Dimitrios' directions.
Cheers,
David.
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:43c7c308$1@linux...
>
> Thanks much for the info David.I haven't gotten into Wormhole yet
> ,but I plan to checl it out.So using wormhole your not using a
> souncard of some kind for Nuendo into Paris,is that correct?Your
> just doing it in the computer?
>
> Thanks again,
> Pete
>
> "espresso" <audio@espressodigital.com> wrote:
> >I've just got around to installing wormhole2 on my machine and can report
>
> >that running Nuendo and Paris together seems to be a workable solution to
>
> >Nuendo (Steinberg) functionality plus Paris sound. I have tested with a
> full
> >32 ch Nuendo mix with many many plugs including UAD stuff and sending via
> 8
> >groups to Paris. It definitely works. I'm thinking the more channels into
>
> >Paris - the merrier - so still have to see what the outer limits are. My
>
> >machine (XP) is a P4 3.2g on ASUS mb.
> >Note - I'm not trying to run the 2 programs in sync (yet - I imagine
there
>
> >are large latency issues) just trying to get Paris sound out of Nuendo.
> >
> >David.
> >
> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >news:43c73721$1@linux...
> >>I can tell you that Vegas 4 won't do it :)
> >> BSOD every time, I gave it up after a while and just sync'd one of the
>
> >> other 10 or so PC's I had laying around at the time.
> >> AA
> >>
> >>
> >> "Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in message
> >> news:cn9ds1l7ku0mjs36duia58a4cevvl39kj3@4ax.com...
> >>>
> >>> I did this for several years, as did many others... I ran Cubase out
> >>> to an RME card slaved to incoming ADAT timecode from Paris... Worked
> >>> okay for a while -- and this was on an 800Mhz Athlon with maybe 256
> >>> RAM... I'm sure you could work something out -- you'll need an extra
> >>> soundcard in there, obviously... I mean, something other than Paris.
> >>> Then you pipe the output back to your MEC in whatever form --S'Pdif,
> >>> adat, analogue, whatever -- for monitoring in Paris. I never tried
> >>> this on one computer under XP, by the way. Probably would be at least
> >>> as good or better. My set-up now is Paris on 98SE sending ADAT sync
> >>> to another computer running Cubase SX3 (under XP, of course)... Works
> >>> okay for my needs these days.
> >>>
> >>> Short answer is -- yes. (but the long answer is at least...
> >>> longer...)
> >>>
> >>> -- good luck -- Chas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13 Jan 2006 04:43:17 +1000, "Pete Ruthenburg"
> >>> <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
> >>>>couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
> >>>>Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
> >>>>this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
> >>>>and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
> >>>>DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
> >>>>to deal with all that right now.
> >>>>
> >>>> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
> >>>>and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
> >>>>
> >>>>THanks,
> >>>>Pete
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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