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Noise Freaks,
The noise sounds computer like. It is coming down the analog
line and is not related to proximity of the cables although I can't
really move them much. It sounds like wc (almost) faintly in the
background and it moves up and down with the fader. With proper
gain staging it improves but still sucks. I'm working on a ballad
that needs quiet. I can't get any of my 4 Mecs to work at this time
so I can't bus via ADAT for this mix. I never heard it through ADAT
in the past. I am hearing it through SPDIF now though.

With a 442 at the receiving end and a spdif and stereo analog at=20
the cubase side what would you do?
Problem Child Tom


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Noise Freaks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The noise sounds computer like.&nbsp; =
It is=20
coming&nbsp;down the analog</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>line and is not related to proximity of =
the cables=20
although I can't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>really move them much.&nbsp; It sounds =
like wc=20
(almost) faintly in the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>background and it moves up and down =
with the=20
fader.&nbsp;&nbsp;With proper</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>gain staging&nbsp;it improves but still =

sucks.&nbsp; I'm working on a ballad</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that needs quiet.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> I can't get any of my 4 Mecs to work at this time</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so I can't bus via ADAT for this =
mix.&nbsp; I never=20
heard it through ADAT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in the past.&nbsp;&nbsp;I</FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> am hearing it through SPDIF now though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With a 442&nbsp;at the receiving end =
and a spdif=20
and stereo analog at </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the cubase side what would you =
do?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Problem Child </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =

size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Re: Computer noise coming from Cubase to Paris. Scope clock is the problem. [message #92602 is a reply to message #92601] Sat, 10 November 2007 00:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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It just dawned on me that the Cubase machine is receiving clock
at 48k from an ADAT machine through the Scope Pro card.
This is probably the source of all evil here. Can someone=20
walk me through changing the clock settings to internal on the
Scope card? It has been so long I've forgotten how to edit it.
I looked and didn't see it. This Paris project is at 44.1 so that
could be a major problem.

Dimitrios, Thad, Aaron?

Thanks as always.
T


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Noise Freaks,
The noise sounds computer like. It is coming down the analog
line and is not related to proximity of the cables although I can't
really move them much. It sounds like wc (almost) faintly in the
background and it moves up and down with the fader. With proper
gain staging it improves but still sucks. I'm working on a ballad
that needs quiet. I can't get any of my 4 Mecs to work at this time
so I can't bus via ADAT for this mix. I never heard it through ADAT
in the past. I am hearing it through SPDIF now though.

With a 442 at the receiving end and a spdif and stereo analog at=20
the cubase side what would you do?
Problem Child Tom


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It just dawned on me that the Cubase =
machine is=20
receiving clock</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at 48k from an ADAT machine through the =
Scope Pro=20
card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is probably the source of all evil =
here.&nbsp;=20
Can someone </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>walk me through changing the clock =
settings to=20
internal on the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scope&nbsp;card?&nbsp; It has been so =
long I've=20
forgotten how to edit it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I looked and didn't see it.&nbsp; This =
Paris=20
project is at 44.1 so that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>could be a major problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios, Thad, Aaron?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks as always.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Noise Freaks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The noise sounds computer like.&nbsp; =
It is=20
coming&nbsp;down the analog</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>line and is not related to proximity =
of the=20
cables although I can't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>really move them much.&nbsp; It =
sounds like wc=20
(almost) faintly in the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>background and it moves up and down =
with the=20
fader.&nbsp;&nbsp;With proper</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>gain staging&nbsp;it improves but =
still=20
sucks.&nbsp; I'm working on a ballad</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that needs quiet.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> I can't get any of my 4 Mecs to work at this =
time</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so I can't bus via ADAT for this =
mix.&nbsp; I=20
never heard it through ADAT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in the past.&nbsp;&nbsp;I</FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> am hearing it through SPDIF now though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With a 442&nbsp;at the receiving end =
and a spdif=20
and stereo analog at </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the cubase side what would you =
do?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Problem Child </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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and=20
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Re: Computer noise coming from Cubase to Paris. Scope clock is the problem. [message #92613 is a reply to message #92602] Sat, 10 November 2007 17:24 Go to previous message
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Well frig yas all I figured it out myself.

It was grounding. Didn't sound like it but it was.
Simple fix. Ya know on the 442/Mec. Little button
called ground lift?

Got the clock thing figured out too with the Scope card.

One step at a time I tell ya. One step at a time.

Thanks anyway!
Tom



"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:47356c2e@linux...
It just dawned on me that the Cubase machine is receiving clock
at 48k from an ADAT machine through the Scope Pro card.
This is probably the source of all evil here. Can someone=20
walk me through changing the clock settings to internal on the
Scope card? It has been so long I've forgotten how to edit it.
I looked and didn't see it. This Paris project is at 44.1 so that
could be a major problem.

Dimitrios, Thad, Aaron?

Thanks as always.
T


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:47355df0$1@linux...
Noise Freaks,
The noise sounds computer like. It is coming down the analog
line and is not related to proximity of the cables although I can't
really move them much. It sounds like wc (almost) faintly in the
background and it moves up and down with the fader. With proper
gain staging it improves but still sucks. I'm working on a ballad
that needs quiet. I can't get any of my 4 Mecs to work at this time
so I can't bus via ADAT for this mix. I never heard it through ADAT
in the past. I am hearing it through SPDIF now though.

With a 442 at the receiving end and a spdif and stereo analog at=20
the cubase side what would you do?
Problem Child Tom


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well frig yas all I figured it out=20
myself.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It was grounding.&nbsp; Didn't sound =
like it but it=20
was.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Simple fix.&nbsp; Ya know on the =
442/Mec.&nbsp;=20
Little button</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>called ground lift?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Got the clock thing figured out too =
with the Scope=20
card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One step at a time I tell ya.&nbsp; One =
step at a=20
time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks anyway!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:47356c2e@linux">news:47356c2e@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It just dawned on me that the Cubase =
machine is=20
receiving clock</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at 48k from an ADAT machine through =
the Scope Pro=20
card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is probably the source of all =
evil=20
here.&nbsp; Can someone </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>walk me through changing the clock =
settings to=20
internal on the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scope&nbsp;card?&nbsp; It has been so =
long I've=20
forgotten how to edit it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I looked and didn't see it.&nbsp; =
This Paris=20
project is at 44.1 so that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>could be a major =
problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios, Thad, Aaron?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks as always.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:47355df0$1@linux">news:47355df0$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Noise Freaks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The noise sounds computer =
like.&nbsp; It is=20
coming&nbsp;down the analog</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>line and is not related to =
proximity of the=20
cables although I can't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>really move them much.&nbsp; It =
sounds like wc=20
(almost) faintly in the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>background and it moves up and down =
with the=20
fader.&nbsp;&nbsp;With proper</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>gain staging&nbsp;it improves but =
still=20
sucks.&nbsp; I'm working on a ballad</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that needs quiet.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> I can't get any of my 4 Mecs to work at this =
time</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so I can't bus via ADAT for this =
mix.&nbsp; I=20
never heard it through ADAT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in the =
past.&nbsp;&nbsp;I</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2> am hearing it through SPDIF now =
though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With a 442&nbsp;at the receiving =
end and a=20
spdif and stereo analog at </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the cubase side what would you =
do?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Problem Child </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
you?<BR><A=20
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