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Here's some B.S. [message #86178] Wed, 06 June 2007 00:56 Go to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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This is kind of like the sony scam. Apple should have fully disclose this
up front!!! Not Cool!!!

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070605/D8PIKO3O0.html
Re: Here's some B.S. [message #86209 is a reply to message #86178] Wed, 06 June 2007 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:466668b9$1@linux...
>
> This is kind of like the sony scam. Apple should have fully disclose this
> up front!!! Not Cool!!!
>
> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070605/D8PIKO3O0.html

........and I'd say that there's a bit more the "just a little" tacit
censorship with iTunes. Have you ever gone to their online radio section.
I6t's chock full o' liberal leaning stations you can hear, but the only
station that they feature there that would balance this in any way is Fox
News. It seems that if they are going to featureAir America, they should
also include something like Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, etc. Definitely a
left leaning political slant to their default playlist.
Re: Here's some B.S. [message #86216 is a reply to message #86209] Wed, 06 June 2007 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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I'm only discussing audio here, not politics, OK Kim. ;^)

Suppose you crank 30hz on a graphic EQ and pull down ALL other
frequencies. Does that sound good?

Nope. Pretty annoying

Now crank 20,000 hz. Did that fix it?

Nope. Annoying and scratchy.

Lack of middle frequencies produces a terrible mix.

The idea that we need more liars on one extreme to balance liars on
another extreme is crazy. IMO.

We need to locate and raise the middle frequencies if we want a full
sounding, complete mix.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

PS. You could pull 30hz and 20khz completely out of the mix and it would
still sound decent.



DJ wrote:
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:466668b9$1@linux...
>> This is kind of like the sony scam. Apple should have fully disclose this
>> up front!!! Not Cool!!!
>>
>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070605/D8PIKO3O0.html
>
> .......and I'd say that there's a bit more the "just a little" tacit
> censorship with iTunes. Have you ever gone to their online radio section.
> I6t's chock full o' liberal leaning stations you can hear, but the only
> station that they feature there that would balance this in any way is Fox
> News. It seems that if they are going to featureAir America, they should
> also include something like Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, etc. Definitely a
> left leaning political slant to their default playlist.
>
>
Re: Here's some B.S. [message #86218 is a reply to message #86216] Wed, 06 June 2007 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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Have you ever received a project to mix that was tracked with hi/lowpass
filters engaged on every track? I have and inevitably there is some
information there that has been lost that may be critical to making the mix.
IMO, intelligent use of filters to achieve a wholistic and comprehensive
result is preferable to not having as much missing info to work with as
possible, even if much of it is rumble or hiss.

;o)


"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4666edbc@linux...
>
> I'm only discussing audio here, not politics, OK Kim. ;^)
>
> Suppose you crank 30hz on a graphic EQ and pull down ALL other
> frequencies. Does that sound good?
>
> Nope. Pretty annoying
>
> Now crank 20,000 hz. Did that fix it?
>
> Nope. Annoying and scratchy.
>
> Lack of middle frequencies produces a terrible mix.
>
> The idea that we need more liars on one extreme to balance liars on
> another extreme is crazy. IMO.
>
> We need to locate and raise the middle frequencies if we want a full
> sounding, complete mix.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
> PS. You could pull 30hz and 20khz completely out of the mix and it would
> still sound decent.
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:466668b9$1@linux...
>>> This is kind of like the sony scam. Apple should have fully disclose
>>> this
>>> up front!!! Not Cool!!!
>>>
>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070605/D8PIKO3O0.html
>>
>> .......and I'd say that there's a bit more the "just a little" tacit
>> censorship with iTunes. Have you ever gone to their online radio section.
>> I6t's chock full o' liberal leaning stations you can hear, but the only
>> station that they feature there that would balance this in any way is Fox
>> News. It seems that if they are going to featureAir America, they should
>> also include something like Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, etc.
>> Definitely a left leaning political slant to their default playlist.
>>
Re: Here's some B.S. [message #86221 is a reply to message #86209] Wed, 06 June 2007 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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No way. Those Pr Right-Winged PR talking points puppets need to to on iTunes
radio.

Let that"Fly-Over State" network named Fox remain that stupid, Greta Van,
what "Rosie Said today, new leads on Natalie Holloway
case, new Memo from Bill O. All the way to Bush's main talking head Hannity..to
that drug addict Rush Limbaug , stay where they are.

No,they need Bill Maher is the fairest of all the talking heads.

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:466668b9$1@linux...
>>
>> This is kind of like the sony scam. Apple should have fully disclose
this
>> up front!!! Not Cool!!!
>>
>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070605/D8PIKO3O0.html
>
>.......and I'd say that there's a bit more the "just a little" tacit
>censorship with iTunes. Have you ever gone to their online radio section.

>I6t's chock full o' liberal leaning stations you can hear, but the only

>station that they feature there that would balance this in any way is Fox

>News. It seems that if they are going to featureAir America, they should

>also include something like Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, etc. Definitely
a
>left leaning political slant to their default playlist.
>
>
Re: Here's some B.S. [message #86222 is a reply to message #86218] Wed, 06 June 2007 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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You're right, I don't generally track with filters on unless there's a
significant problem, such as excessive noise on location from a highly
windy source.

In a mix I only add filtering after due consideration of the entire
spectrum.

I sometimes wonder about engineers who rely on highly filtered sources
and assume there's any fidelity there. I hear way too much mud in their
politics, er, mixes.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


DJ wrote:
> Have you ever received a project to mix that was tracked with hi/lowpass
> filters engaged on every track? I have and inevitably there is some
> information there that has been lost that may be critical to making the mix.
> IMO, intelligent use of filters to achieve a wholistic and comprehensive
> result is preferable to not having as much missing info to work with as
> possible, even if much of it is rumble or hiss.
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4666edbc@linux...
>> I'm only discussing audio here, not politics, OK Kim. ;^)
>>
>> Suppose you crank 30hz on a graphic EQ and pull down ALL other
>> frequencies. Does that sound good?
>>
>> Nope. Pretty annoying
>>
>> Now crank 20,000 hz. Did that fix it?
>>
>> Nope. Annoying and scratchy.
>>
>> Lack of middle frequencies produces a terrible mix.
>>
>> The idea that we need more liars on one extreme to balance liars on
>> another extreme is crazy. IMO.
>>
>> We need to locate and raise the middle frequencies if we want a full
>> sounding, complete mix.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>> PS. You could pull 30hz and 20khz completely out of the mix and it would
>> still sound decent.
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:466668b9$1@linux...
>>>> This is kind of like the sony scam. Apple should have fully disclose
>>>> this
>>>> up front!!! Not Cool!!!
>>>>
>>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070605/D8PIKO3O0.html
>>> .......and I'd say that there's a bit more the "just a little" tacit
>>> censorship with iTunes. Have you ever gone to their online radio section.
>>> I6t's chock full o' liberal leaning stations you can hear, but the only
>>> station that they feature there that would balance this in any way is Fox
>>> News. It seems that if they are going to featureAir America, they should
>>> also include something like Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, etc.
>>> Definitely a left leaning political slant to their default playlist.
>>>
>
Re: Here's some B.S. [message #86223 is a reply to message #86221] Wed, 06 June 2007 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DC is currently offline  DC
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:

>No,they need Bill Maher is the fairest of all the talking heads.

BWAH HAH HAH HAH!!


You're a *lot* funnier than he is.

DC
Re: Here's some B.S. [message #86228 is a reply to message #86223] Wed, 06 June 2007 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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"DC" <dc@spammersonTV.org> wrote in message news:466701d7$1@linux...
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>No,they need Bill Maher is the fairest of all the talking heads.
>
> BWAH HAH HAH HAH!!
>
>
> You're a *lot* funnier than he is.
>
> DC
>

You beat me to the BWAH HAH HAH HAH!!
Re: Here's some B.S. [message #86250 is a reply to message #86178] Wed, 06 June 2007 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Say what? Did you guys even read the article? It wasn't about politics,
or EQing.

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>This is kind of like the sony scam. Apple should have fully disclose this
>up front!!! Not Cool!!!
>
>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070605/D8PIKO3O0.html
Re: Here's some B.S. [message #86253 is a reply to message #86250] Thu, 07 June 2007 00:14 Go to previous message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   DENMARK
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Maybe all the other things stood behind the lines???? ;-)


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:46679a1f$1@linux...
>
> Say what? Did you guys even read the article? It wasn't about politics,
> or EQing.
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>This is kind of like the sony scam. Apple should have fully disclose this
>>up front!!! Not Cool!!!
>>
>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070605/D8PIKO3O0.html
>
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