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| Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67054 is a reply to message #67051] |
Tue, 18 April 2006 18:30   |
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Deej [1]
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That's pretty normal. There is a little pre-roll slop. This can be somewhat
mitigated by settings in Cubase, I think. I've never worried about it. I
always give my projects a little slack to accommodate this.If I'm punching
and Paris is controlling the timeline, I make sure to provide enough hang
time to the talent so that the two apps can lock tight before the *artist*
screws up the take again during the punch.
;o)
"Ted" <sonicartproductions@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44457c26@linux...
> Hey DJ,
> I haven't been able to get this to work perfectly either. Everything is
> setup right, and Cubase even locks, but always shifts in the beginning ...
> within the first 4 measures it speeds up and slows down like a pendulum
> until it gets a good lock. After that it is very stable.
> Any ideas?
> J
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:444575c0$1@linux...
> > If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to sync to
ASIO
> > positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the Paris ADAT
> > sync
> > port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control panel, set
the
> > HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
> >
> > Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:444574a7$1@linux...
> >> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while a go,
> >> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think it was
a
> >> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little sluggish, I
> >> may
> >> have overlooked something in the set-up.
> >>
> >> Bjorn R
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67094 is a reply to message #67054] |
Wed, 19 April 2006 17:09 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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Sync is OK with VSTi's, it locks up pretty quick, but it takes 15-20 bars to
get my Yamaha CS1X to lock up. Never had this problem with Dakota and WinME.
Bjorn R
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44459422@linux...
> That's pretty normal. There is a little pre-roll slop. This can be
somewhat
> mitigated by settings in Cubase, I think. I've never worried about it. I
> always give my projects a little slack to accommodate this.If I'm punching
> and Paris is controlling the timeline, I make sure to provide enough hang
> time to the talent so that the two apps can lock tight before the *artist*
> screws up the take again during the punch.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Ted" <sonicartproductions@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:44457c26@linux...
> > Hey DJ,
> > I haven't been able to get this to work perfectly either. Everything is
> > setup right, and Cubase even locks, but always shifts in the beginning
....
> > within the first 4 measures it speeds up and slows down like a pendulum
> > until it gets a good lock. After that it is very stable.
> > Any ideas?
> > J
> >
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:444575c0$1@linux...
> > > If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to sync to
> ASIO
> > > positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the Paris ADAT
> > > sync
> > > port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control panel, set
> the
> > > HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
> > >
> > > Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
> > >
> > > Deej
> > >
> > > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:444574a7$1@linux...
> > >> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while a
go,
> > >> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think it
was
> a
> > >> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little sluggish,
I
> > >> may
> > >> have overlooked something in the set-up.
> > >>
> > >> Bjorn R
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67095 is a reply to message #67094] |
Wed, 19 April 2006 18:31 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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...to clearify the problem, the Yamaha-synth syncs perfectly to Cubase alone,
but takes forever to get in sync when Cubase is slaved to Paris. Anyone
experienced this?
Bjorn R
"BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4446d024$1@linux...
> Sync is OK with VSTi's, it locks up pretty quick, but it takes 15-20 bars
to
> get my Yamaha CS1X to lock up. Never had this problem with Dakota and
WinME.
>
> Bjorn R
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44459422@linux...
> > That's pretty normal. There is a little pre-roll slop. This can be
> somewhat
> > mitigated by settings in Cubase, I think. I've never worried about it. I
> > always give my projects a little slack to accommodate this.If I'm
punching
> > and Paris is controlling the timeline, I make sure to provide enough
hang
> > time to the talent so that the two apps can lock tight before the
*artist*
> > screws up the take again during the punch.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> > "Ted" <sonicartproductions@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:44457c26@linux...
> > > Hey DJ,
> > > I haven't been able to get this to work perfectly either. Everything
is
> > > setup right, and Cubase even locks, but always shifts in the beginning
> ...
> > > within the first 4 measures it speeds up and slows down like a
pendulum
> > > until it gets a good lock. After that it is very stable.
> > > Any ideas?
> > > J
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > news:444575c0$1@linux...
> > > > If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to sync
to
> > ASIO
> > > > positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the Paris
ADAT
> > > > sync
> > > > port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control panel,
set
> > the
> > > > HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
> > > >
> > > > Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
> > > >
> > > > Deej
> > > >
> > > > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:444574a7$1@linux...
> > > >> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while a
> go,
> > > >> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think it
> was
> > a
> > > >> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little
sluggish,
> I
> > > >> may
> > > >> have overlooked something in the set-up.
> > > >>
> > > >> Bjorn R
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67096 is a reply to message #67095] |
Wed, 19 April 2006 18:59 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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So you're syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT sync and syncing the Yamaha to
what?
"BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4446e335$1@linux...
> ..to clearify the problem, the Yamaha-synth syncs perfectly to Cubase
alone,
> but takes forever to get in sync when Cubase is slaved to Paris. Anyone
> experienced this?
>
> Bjorn R
>
>
> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4446d024$1@linux...
> > Sync is OK with VSTi's, it locks up pretty quick, but it takes 15-20
bars
> to
> > get my Yamaha CS1X to lock up. Never had this problem with Dakota and
> WinME.
> >
> > Bjorn R
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:44459422@linux...
> > > That's pretty normal. There is a little pre-roll slop. This can be
> > somewhat
> > > mitigated by settings in Cubase, I think. I've never worried about it.
I
> > > always give my projects a little slack to accommodate this.If I'm
> punching
> > > and Paris is controlling the timeline, I make sure to provide enough
> hang
> > > time to the talent so that the two apps can lock tight before the
> *artist*
> > > screws up the take again during the punch.
> > >
> > > ;o)
> > >
> > > "Ted" <sonicartproductions@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:44457c26@linux...
> > > > Hey DJ,
> > > > I haven't been able to get this to work perfectly either. Everything
> is
> > > > setup right, and Cubase even locks, but always shifts in the
beginning
> > ...
> > > > within the first 4 measures it speeds up and slows down like a
> pendulum
> > > > until it gets a good lock. After that it is very stable.
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > > J
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:444575c0$1@linux...
> > > > > If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to sync
> to
> > > ASIO
> > > > > positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the Paris
> ADAT
> > > > > sync
> > > > > port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control panel,
> set
> > > the
> > > > > HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
> > > > >
> > > > > Deej
> > > > >
> > > > > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:444574a7$1@linux...
> > > > >> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while
a
> > go,
> > > > >> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think
it
> > was
> > > a
> > > > >> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little
> sluggish,
> > I
> > > > >> may
> > > > >> have overlooked something in the set-up.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Bjorn R
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67119 is a reply to message #67096] |
Thu, 20 April 2006 05:16 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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Cubase sends midi to the Yamaha, that acts as a sound module. It works as
it's supposed to do, playing along with VSTi's in perfect timing. But when
Cubase is synced to Paris, theYamaha uses 15-20 bars to get the timing
right. Or rather, uses 15-20 bars to get the midi-signals out to the Yamaha
in sync with the rest of the song.
I hope this makes it clearer :-)
Bjorn R
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4446ec5d@linux...
> So you're syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT sync and syncing the Yamaha to
> what?
>
> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4446e335$1@linux...
> > ..to clearify the problem, the Yamaha-synth syncs perfectly to Cubase
> alone,
> > but takes forever to get in sync when Cubase is slaved to Paris. Anyone
> > experienced this?
> >
> > Bjorn R
> >
> >
> > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4446d024$1@linux...
> > > Sync is OK with VSTi's, it locks up pretty quick, but it takes 15-20
> bars
> > to
> > > get my Yamaha CS1X to lock up. Never had this problem with Dakota and
> > WinME.
> > >
> > > Bjorn R
> > >
> > >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > news:44459422@linux...
> > > > That's pretty normal. There is a little pre-roll slop. This can be
> > > somewhat
> > > > mitigated by settings in Cubase, I think. I've never worried about
it.
> I
> > > > always give my projects a little slack to accommodate this.If I'm
> > punching
> > > > and Paris is controlling the timeline, I make sure to provide enough
> > hang
> > > > time to the talent so that the two apps can lock tight before the
> > *artist*
> > > > screws up the take again during the punch.
> > > >
> > > > ;o)
> > > >
> > > > "Ted" <sonicartproductions@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:44457c26@linux...
> > > > > Hey DJ,
> > > > > I haven't been able to get this to work perfectly either.
Everything
> > is
> > > > > setup right, and Cubase even locks, but always shifts in the
> beginning
> > > ...
> > > > > within the first 4 measures it speeds up and slows down like a
> > pendulum
> > > > > until it gets a good lock. After that it is very stable.
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > J
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:444575c0$1@linux...
> > > > > > If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to
sync
> > to
> > > > ASIO
> > > > > > positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the
Paris
> > ADAT
> > > > > > sync
> > > > > > port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control
panel,
> > set
> > > > the
> > > > > > HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Deej
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:444574a7$1@linux...
> > > > > >> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a
while
> a
> > > go,
> > > > > >> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I
think
> it
> > > was
> > > > a
> > > > > >> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little
> > sluggish,
> > > I
> > > > > >> may
> > > > > >> have overlooked something in the set-up.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Bjorn R
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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