| Attention DJ.... Drumagog to BFD triggering???? [message #77552] |
Thu, 28 December 2006 18:11  |
Rod Lincoln
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Hey DJ...did you say you were triggering BFD from a live snare track via Drumagog
with asio, in the same computer??? I'm trying to get this to happen, and
I'm not quit sure how to go about it. Any pointers would be appreciated.
I've got Drumagog 3 Pro that spits out midi notes, but I can only select
my hardware midi outs. How do I get it to go to BFD internally.
thanks
Rod
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| Re: Attention DJ.... Drumagog to BFD triggering???? [message #77554 is a reply to message #77553] |
Thu, 28 December 2006 19:49  |
Rod Lincoln
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I thought of that (midi out to midi in) but that seems WAY too easy. I thought
DJ could come up with a much more exciting way to do it.
I just want to use some of the room and overhead sounds that are available
in BFD to experiment with layering in under my own tracks, for ambience.
I do this with other samples already, but thought BFD might provide some
nice stuff, and I'm getting too lazy these days to sample BFD with all the
layers and alternate strokes that I find my self needing for it not to sound
fake.
Rod
"Neil" <IUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
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>Rod, kinda surprised that as a drummer, you just don't snag
>a few samples off your own kit & load them into D-Gog & forget
>about the BFD altogether...
>
>...anyway, what about just looping your MIDI out to your MIDI
>input & have D-gog trigger BFD that way??
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey DJ...did you say you were triggering BFD from a live snare track via
>Drumagog
>>with asio, in the same computer??? I'm trying to get this to happen, and
>>I'm not quit sure how to go about it. Any pointers would be appreciated.
>>I've got Drumagog 3 Pro that spits out midi notes, but I can only select
>>my hardware midi outs. How do I get it to go to BFD internally.
>>thanks
>>Rod
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| Re: Attention DJ.... Drumagog to BFD triggering???? [message #77556 is a reply to message #77554] |
Thu, 28 December 2006 19:23 |
DJ
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Tried that. Didn't work very well due to latency. PDC didn't work when using
midi.
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:4594823c$1@linux...
>
> I thought of that (midi out to midi in) but that seems WAY too easy. I
> thought
> DJ could come up with a much more exciting way to do it.
> I just want to use some of the room and overhead sounds that are available
> in BFD to experiment with layering in under my own tracks, for ambience.
> I do this with other samples already, but thought BFD might provide some
> nice stuff, and I'm getting too lazy these days to sample BFD with all the
> layers and alternate strokes that I find my self needing for it not to
> sound
> fake.
> Rod
> "Neil" <IUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Rod, kinda surprised that as a drummer, you just don't snag
>>a few samples off your own kit & load them into D-Gog & forget
>>about the BFD altogether...
>>
>>...anyway, what about just looping your MIDI out to your MIDI
>>input & have D-gog trigger BFD that way??
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey DJ...did you say you were triggering BFD from a live snare track via
>>Drumagog
>>>with asio, in the same computer??? I'm trying to get this to happen, and
>>>I'm not quit sure how to go about it. Any pointers would be appreciated.
>>>I've got Drumagog 3 Pro that spits out midi notes, but I can only select
>>>my hardware midi outs. How do I get it to go to BFD internally.
>>>thanks
>>>Rod
>>
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| Re: Attention DJ.... Drumagog to BFD triggering???? [message #77576 is a reply to message #77554] |
Fri, 29 December 2006 10:45 |
Tony Benson
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
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Rod,
What format are BFD's samples? It's been a while ago, but I created some DFH
to Drumagog "gog" banks by dragging a bunch of DFH samples into Drumagog and
I'm almost certain Drumagog did all the work of organizing the different
levels and velocities. DFH samples are regular .wav files. I'd have to sit
down and go through it again to remember the details, but I seem to remember
being pleasantly surprised at how easy it was to create my own gog banks.
You might send Rim at Drumagog an email also. He's one the most helpful guys
out there.
Tony
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:4594823c$1@linux...
>
> I thought of that (midi out to midi in) but that seems WAY too easy. I
> thought
> DJ could come up with a much more exciting way to do it.
> I just want to use some of the room and overhead sounds that are available
> in BFD to experiment with layering in under my own tracks, for ambience.
> I do this with other samples already, but thought BFD might provide some
> nice stuff, and I'm getting too lazy these days to sample BFD with all the
> layers and alternate strokes that I find my self needing for it not to
> sound
> fake.
> Rod
> "Neil" <IUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Rod, kinda surprised that as a drummer, you just don't snag
>>a few samples off your own kit & load them into D-Gog & forget
>>about the BFD altogether...
>>
>>...anyway, what about just looping your MIDI out to your MIDI
>>input & have D-gog trigger BFD that way??
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey DJ...did you say you were triggering BFD from a live snare track via
>>Drumagog
>>>with asio, in the same computer??? I'm trying to get this to happen, and
>>>I'm not quit sure how to go about it. Any pointers would be appreciated.
>>>I've got Drumagog 3 Pro that spits out midi notes, but I can only select
>>>my hardware midi outs. How do I get it to go to BFD internally.
>>>thanks
>>>Rod
>>
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| Re: Attention DJ.... Drumagog to BFD triggering???? [message #77577 is a reply to message #77576] |
Fri, 29 December 2006 12:02 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Tony, I've done that also, with the DFH stuff. The BFD samples are all embedded
in a data file that only plays in BFD.
Rod
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Rod,
>
>What format are BFD's samples? It's been a while ago, but I created some
DFH
>to Drumagog "gog" banks by dragging a bunch of DFH samples into Drumagog
and
>I'm almost certain Drumagog did all the work of organizing the different
>levels and velocities. DFH samples are regular .wav files. I'd have to sit
>down and go through it again to remember the details, but I seem to remember
>being pleasantly surprised at how easy it was to create my own gog banks.
>You might send Rim at Drumagog an email also. He's one the most helpful
guys
>out there.
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:4594823c$1@linux...
>>
>> I thought of that (midi out to midi in) but that seems WAY too easy. I
>> thought
>> DJ could come up with a much more exciting way to do it.
>> I just want to use some of the room and overhead sounds that are available
>> in BFD to experiment with layering in under my own tracks, for ambience.
>> I do this with other samples already, but thought BFD might provide some
>> nice stuff, and I'm getting too lazy these days to sample BFD with all
the
>> layers and alternate strokes that I find my self needing for it not to
>> sound
>> fake.
>> Rod
>> "Neil" <IUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Rod, kinda surprised that as a drummer, you just don't snag
>>>a few samples off your own kit & load them into D-Gog & forget
>>>about the BFD altogether...
>>>
>>>...anyway, what about just looping your MIDI out to your MIDI
>>>input & have D-gog trigger BFD that way??
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hey DJ...did you say you were triggering BFD from a live snare track
via
>>>Drumagog
>>>>with asio, in the same computer??? I'm trying to get this to happen,
and
>>>>I'm not quit sure how to go about it. Any pointers would be appreciated.
>>>>I've got Drumagog 3 Pro that spits out midi notes, but I can only select
>>>>my hardware midi outs. How do I get it to go to BFD internally.
>>>>thanks
>>>>Rod
>>>
>>
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| Re: Attention DJ.... Drumagog to BFD triggering???? [message #77578 is a reply to message #77555] |
Fri, 29 December 2006 12:06 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Neil, tried the cable...it "sort of works" but not good enough for my taste.
The midi slop makes the samples fire too inconsistantly to sound tight. I'd
have to do too much editing after the fact.
Rod
"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>I thought of that (midi out to midi in) but that seems WAY too easy. I
thought
>>DJ could come up with a much more exciting way to do it.
>
>I have no doubt that he could. Try A CABLE, though - it might
>actually get you being able to work on this TONIGHT!
>
>lol
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| Re: Attention DJ.... Drumagog to BFD triggering???? [message #77580 is a reply to message #77577] |
Fri, 29 December 2006 11:28 |
Tony Benson
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
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Senior Member |
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I figured there was a catch. Bummer.
Tony
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:4595664a$1@linux...
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> Tony, I've done that also, with the DFH stuff. The BFD samples are all
> embedded
> in a data file that only plays in BFD.
> Rod
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>Rod,
>>
>>What format are BFD's samples? It's been a while ago, but I created some
> DFH
>>to Drumagog "gog" banks by dragging a bunch of DFH samples into Drumagog
> and
>>I'm almost certain Drumagog did all the work of organizing the different
>
>>levels and velocities. DFH samples are regular .wav files. I'd have to sit
>
>>down and go through it again to remember the details, but I seem to
>>remember
>
>>being pleasantly surprised at how easy it was to create my own gog banks.
>
>>You might send Rim at Drumagog an email also. He's one the most helpful
> guys
>>out there.
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:4594823c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I thought of that (midi out to midi in) but that seems WAY too easy. I
>
>>> thought
>>> DJ could come up with a much more exciting way to do it.
>>> I just want to use some of the room and overhead sounds that are
>>> available
>>> in BFD to experiment with layering in under my own tracks, for ambience.
>>> I do this with other samples already, but thought BFD might provide some
>>> nice stuff, and I'm getting too lazy these days to sample BFD with all
> the
>>> layers and alternate strokes that I find my self needing for it not to
>
>>> sound
>>> fake.
>>> Rod
>>> "Neil" <IUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Rod, kinda surprised that as a drummer, you just don't snag
>>>>a few samples off your own kit & load them into D-Gog & forget
>>>>about the BFD altogether...
>>>>
>>>>...anyway, what about just looping your MIDI out to your MIDI
>>>>input & have D-gog trigger BFD that way??
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey DJ...did you say you were triggering BFD from a live snare track
> via
>>>>Drumagog
>>>>>with asio, in the same computer??? I'm trying to get this to happen,
> and
>>>>>I'm not quit sure how to go about it. Any pointers would be
>>>>>appreciated.
>>>>>I've got Drumagog 3 Pro that spits out midi notes, but I can only
>>>>>select
>>>>>my hardware midi outs. How do I get it to go to BFD internally.
>>>>>thanks
>>>>>Rod
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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