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OT: Health records online? [message #96323] Tue, 26 February 2008 21:47 Go to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Anyone using a service like this, or looking at one like the upcoming google
health online one?

http://www.healthvault.com/

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080221-concerns-loom- as-google-begins-testing-health-records-system.html

Thoughts? Concerns? Kudos?
Re: Health records online? [message #96327 is a reply to message #96323] Wed, 27 February 2008 00:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Registered: February 2007
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Every patient in the hospital I work in has their current and past medical
information in the hospital's computer system. If some hacker wanted for
some reason to look a patient's diseases, surgeries, or medications, I
suppose it's possible. Government agencies in our current paranoid climate
would probably only have to "ask".

I also know that my clinic has my records online, because they have a
program called "MyChart.com" or something like that where I can review my
own lab results, imaging, vitals, etc. I haven't been inspired to check it
out, but now that you've brought it up, I think I'll ask next time I see my
doctor about security and who has access to that information.

The advantage, of course, is for practitioners to have your health records
accessible if you are in a situation where there isn't time for you to give
it to them, assuming you're even able to.

Mixed feeling, I guess. Real privacy may be a thing of the past for most of
us.

S


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:47c4fc9b$1@linux...
> Anyone using a service like this, or looking at one like the upcoming
> google health online one?
>
> http://www.healthvault.com/
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080221-concerns-loom- as-google-begins-testing-health-records-system.html
>
> Thoughts? Concerns? Kudos?
>
Re: Health records online? [message #96334 is a reply to message #96327] Wed, 27 February 2008 04:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
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"Mixed feelings" is the logical response. I wish we lived in a world in
which we could trust to put our personal info out there for all to see,
but reality and history teach us that personal privacy must be protected
rigorously from private, business and government data gatherers to
prevent its exploitation.

I heard recently about a program to record the DNA of all British
citizens, and frankly that scares the crap out of me. I mean, what if
all that British DNA "accidentally" gets mixed in with the DNA in the
rest of Europe or even here in America, we could face an international
"debeautization" that might take decades from which to recover. You know
that when traveling in Europe the best looking people are always in the
country you visit directly after England.

But seriously, until we live in a truly sane world (which I know we will
some day), I won't trust my personal info to anyone I don't absolutely
have to.

Sarah wrote:
> Every patient in the hospital I work in has their current and past medical
> information in the hospital's computer system. If some hacker wanted for
> some reason to look a patient's diseases, surgeries, or medications, I
> suppose it's possible. Government agencies in our current paranoid climate
> would probably only have to "ask".
>
> I also know that my clinic has my records online, because they have a
> program called "MyChart.com" or something like that where I can review my
> own lab results, imaging, vitals, etc. I haven't been inspired to check it
> out, but now that you've brought it up, I think I'll ask next time I see my
> doctor about security and who has access to that information.
>
> The advantage, of course, is for practitioners to have your health records
> accessible if you are in a situation where there isn't time for you to give
> it to them, assuming you're even able to.
>
> Mixed feeling, I guess. Real privacy may be a thing of the past for most of
> us.
>
> S
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:47c4fc9b$1@linux...
>> Anyone using a service like this, or looking at one like the upcoming
>> google health online one?
>>
>> http://www.healthvault.com/
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080221-concerns-loom- as-google-begins-testing-health-records-system.html
>>
>> Thoughts? Concerns? Kudos?
>>
>
>
Re: Health records online? [message #96335 is a reply to message #96334] Wed, 27 February 2008 05:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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Registered: July 2005
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Totally against the idea

yes I'm paranoid

oops there's one psychiatric problem outta tha bag

damn!




"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47c55c87@linux...
> "Mixed feelings" is the logical response. I wish we lived in a world in
> which we could trust to put our personal info out there for all to see,
> but reality and history teach us that personal privacy must be protected
> rigorously from private, business and government data gatherers to prevent
> its exploitation.
>
> I heard recently about a program to record the DNA of all British
> citizens, and frankly that scares the crap out of me. I mean, what if all
> that British DNA "accidentally" gets mixed in with the DNA in the rest of
> Europe or even here in America, we could face an international
> "debeautization" that might take decades from which to recover. You know
> that when traveling in Europe the best looking people are always in the
> country you visit directly after England.
>
> But seriously, until we live in a truly sane world (which I know we will
> some day), I won't trust my personal info to anyone I don't absolutely
> have to.
>
> Sarah wrote:
>> Every patient in the hospital I work in has their current and past
>> medical information in the hospital's computer system. If some hacker
>> wanted for some reason to look a patient's diseases, surgeries, or
>> medications, I suppose it's possible. Government agencies in our current
>> paranoid climate would probably only have to "ask".
>>
>> I also know that my clinic has my records online, because they have a
>> program called "MyChart.com" or something like that where I can review my
>> own lab results, imaging, vitals, etc. I haven't been inspired to check
>> it out, but now that you've brought it up, I think I'll ask next time I
>> see my doctor about security and who has access to that information.
>>
>> The advantage, of course, is for practitioners to have your health
>> records accessible if you are in a situation where there isn't time for
>> you to give it to them, assuming you're even able to.
>>
>> Mixed feeling, I guess. Real privacy may be a thing of the past for most
>> of us.
>>
>> S
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:47c4fc9b$1@linux...
>>> Anyone using a service like this, or looking at one like the upcoming
>>> google health online one?
>>>
>>> http://www.healthvault.com/
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080221-concerns-loom- as-google-begins-testing-health-records-system.html
>>>
>>> Thoughts? Concerns? Kudos?
>>>
>>
Re: Health records online? [message #96339 is a reply to message #96335] Wed, 27 February 2008 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
Senior Member
Don, I think you suffer from "paranormal" not "paranoia".

Don Nafe wrote:
> Totally against the idea
>
> yes I'm paranoid
>
> oops there's one psychiatric problem outta tha bag
>
> damn!
>
>
>
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47c55c87@linux...
>> "Mixed feelings" is the logical response. I wish we lived in a world in
>> which we could trust to put our personal info out there for all to see,
>> but reality and history teach us that personal privacy must be protected
>> rigorously from private, business and government data gatherers to prevent
>> its exploitation.
>>
>> I heard recently about a program to record the DNA of all British
>> citizens, and frankly that scares the crap out of me. I mean, what if all
>> that British DNA "accidentally" gets mixed in with the DNA in the rest of
>> Europe or even here in America, we could face an international
>> "debeautization" that might take decades from which to recover. You know
>> that when traveling in Europe the best looking people are always in the
>> country you visit directly after England.
>>
>> But seriously, until we live in a truly sane world (which I know we will
>> some day), I won't trust my personal info to anyone I don't absolutely
>> have to.
>>
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> Every patient in the hospital I work in has their current and past
>>> medical information in the hospital's computer system. If some hacker
>>> wanted for some reason to look a patient's diseases, surgeries, or
>>> medications, I suppose it's possible. Government agencies in our current
>>> paranoid climate would probably only have to "ask".
>>>
>>> I also know that my clinic has my records online, because they have a
>>> program called "MyChart.com" or something like that where I can review my
>>> own lab results, imaging, vitals, etc. I haven't been inspired to check
>>> it out, but now that you've brought it up, I think I'll ask next time I
>>> see my doctor about security and who has access to that information.
>>>
>>> The advantage, of course, is for practitioners to have your health
>>> records accessible if you are in a situation where there isn't time for
>>> you to give it to them, assuming you're even able to.
>>>
>>> Mixed feeling, I guess. Real privacy may be a thing of the past for most
>>> of us.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:47c4fc9b$1@linux...
>>>> Anyone using a service like this, or looking at one like the upcoming
>>>> google health online one?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.healthvault.com/
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080221-concerns-loom- as-google-begins-testing-health-records-system.html
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts? Concerns? Kudos?
>>>>
>
Re: Health records online? [message #96345 is a reply to message #96339] Wed, 27 February 2008 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
is that anything like abnormal?

hehehe


"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47c5784c$1@linux...
> Don, I think you suffer from "paranormal" not "paranoia".
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>> Totally against the idea
>>
>> yes I'm paranoid
>>
>> oops there's one psychiatric problem outta tha bag
>>
>> damn!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47c55c87@linux...
>>> "Mixed feelings" is the logical response. I wish we lived in a world in
>>> which we could trust to put our personal info out there for all to see,
>>> but reality and history teach us that personal privacy must be protected
>>> rigorously from private, business and government data gatherers to
>>> prevent its exploitation.
>>>
>>> I heard recently about a program to record the DNA of all British
>>> citizens, and frankly that scares the crap out of me. I mean, what if
>>> all that British DNA "accidentally" gets mixed in with the DNA in the
>>> rest of Europe or even here in America, we could face an international
>>> "debeautization" that might take decades from which to recover. You know
>>> that when traveling in Europe the best looking people are always in the
>>> country you visit directly after England.
>>>
>>> But seriously, until we live in a truly sane world (which I know we will
>>> some day), I won't trust my personal info to anyone I don't absolutely
>>> have to.
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> Every patient in the hospital I work in has their current and past
>>>> medical information in the hospital's computer system. If some hacker
>>>> wanted for some reason to look a patient's diseases, surgeries, or
>>>> medications, I suppose it's possible. Government agencies in our
>>>> current paranoid climate would probably only have to "ask".
>>>>
>>>> I also know that my clinic has my records online, because they have a
>>>> program called "MyChart.com" or something like that where I can review
>>>> my own lab results, imaging, vitals, etc. I haven't been inspired to
>>>> check it out, but now that you've brought it up, I think I'll ask next
>>>> time I see my doctor about security and who has access to that
>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>> The advantage, of course, is for practitioners to have your health
>>>> records accessible if you are in a situation where there isn't time for
>>>> you to give it to them, assuming you're even able to.
>>>>
>>>> Mixed feeling, I guess. Real privacy may be a thing of the past for
>>>> most of us.
>>>>
>>>> S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>> news:47c4fc9b$1@linux...
>>>>> Anyone using a service like this, or looking at one like the upcoming
>>>>> google health online one?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.healthvault.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080221-concerns-loom- as-google-begins-testing-health-records-system.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts? Concerns? Kudos?
>>>>>
>>
Re: Health records online? [message #96354 is a reply to message #96334] Wed, 27 February 2008 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Dear Bill L,

As a former British woman, I found your joke in poor taste. Not that I can
taste anything with these decaying snaggle teeth jutting out every which
way.

Thanks
Charlene

Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>"Mixed feelings" is the logical response. I wish we lived in a world in

>which we could trust to put our personal info out there for all to see,

>but reality and history teach us that personal privacy must be protected

>rigorously from private, business and government data gatherers to
>prevent its exploitation.
>
>I heard recently about a program to record the DNA of all British
>citizens, and frankly that scares the crap out of me. I mean, what if
>all that British DNA "accidentally" gets mixed in with the DNA in the
>rest of Europe or even here in America, we could face an international
>"debeautization" that might take decades from which to recover. You know

>that when traveling in Europe the best looking people are always in the

>country you visit directly after England.
>
>But seriously, until we live in a truly sane world (which I know we will

>some day), I won't trust my personal info to anyone I don't absolutely
>have to.
>
>Sarah wrote:
>> Every patient in the hospital I work in has their current and past medical

>> information in the hospital's computer system. If some hacker wanted
for
>> some reason to look a patient's diseases, surgeries, or medications, I

>> suppose it's possible. Government agencies in our current paranoid climate

>> would probably only have to "ask".
>>
>> I also know that my clinic has my records online, because they have a

>> program called "MyChart.com" or something like that where I can review
my
>> own lab results, imaging, vitals, etc. I haven't been inspired to check
it
>> out, but now that you've brought it up, I think I'll ask next time I see
my
>> doctor about security and who has access to that information.
>>
>> The advantage, of course, is for practitioners to have your health records

>> accessible if you are in a situation where there isn't time for you to
give
>> it to them, assuming you're even able to.
>>
>> Mixed feeling, I guess. Real privacy may be a thing of the past for most
of
>> us.
>>
>> S
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:47c4fc9b$1@linux...
>>> Anyone using a service like this, or looking at one like the upcoming

>>> google health online one?
>>>
>>> http://www.healthvault.com/
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080221-concerns-loom- as-google-begins-testing-health-records-system.html
>>>
>>> Thoughts? Concerns? Kudos?
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Health records online? [message #96360 is a reply to message #96354] Wed, 27 February 2008 18:53 Go to previous message
Rich Lamanna is currently offline  Rich Lamanna   UNITED STATES
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
BWHAAAAAAA..............., ROFLMAO! That's a visual man.

Rich

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:47c5b948$1@linux...
>
> Dear Bill L,
>
> As a former British woman, I found your joke in poor taste. Not that I can
> taste anything with these decaying snaggle teeth jutting out every which
> way.
>
> Thanks
> Charlene
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
> >"Mixed feelings" is the logical response. I wish we lived in a world in
>
> >which we could trust to put our personal info out there for all to see,
>
> >but reality and history teach us that personal privacy must be protected
>
> >rigorously from private, business and government data gatherers to
> >prevent its exploitation.
> >
> >I heard recently about a program to record the DNA of all British
> >citizens, and frankly that scares the crap out of me. I mean, what if
> >all that British DNA "accidentally" gets mixed in with the DNA in the
> >rest of Europe or even here in America, we could face an international
> >"debeautization" that might take decades from which to recover. You know
>
> >that when traveling in Europe the best looking people are always in the
>
> >country you visit directly after England.
> >
> >But seriously, until we live in a truly sane world (which I know we will
>
> >some day), I won't trust my personal info to anyone I don't absolutely
> >have to.
> >
> >Sarah wrote:
> >> Every patient in the hospital I work in has their current and past
medical
>
> >> information in the hospital's computer system. If some hacker wanted
> for
> >> some reason to look a patient's diseases, surgeries, or medications, I
>
> >> suppose it's possible. Government agencies in our current paranoid
climate
>
> >> would probably only have to "ask".
> >>
> >> I also know that my clinic has my records online, because they have a
>
> >> program called "MyChart.com" or something like that where I can review
> my
> >> own lab results, imaging, vitals, etc. I haven't been inspired to
check
> it
> >> out, but now that you've brought it up, I think I'll ask next time I
see
> my
> >> doctor about security and who has access to that information.
> >>
> >> The advantage, of course, is for practitioners to have your health
records
>
> >> accessible if you are in a situation where there isn't time for you to
> give
> >> it to them, assuming you're even able to.
> >>
> >> Mixed feeling, I guess. Real privacy may be a thing of the past for
most
> of
> >> us.
> >>
> >> S
> >>
> >>
> >> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >> news:47c4fc9b$1@linux...
> >>> Anyone using a service like this, or looking at one like the upcoming
>
> >>> google health online one?
> >>>
> >>> http://www.healthvault.com/
> >>>
> >>>
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080221-concerns-loom- as-google-begins-testing-health-records-system.html
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts? Concerns? Kudos?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
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