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Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89678] Wed, 12 September 2007 07:20 Go to next message
Tyrone Corbett is currently offline  Tyrone Corbett   
Messages: 253
Registered: August 2006
Senior Member
Hey guys, my 02r died which was primarily used as a glorified talk back, as
well as routing, anaolog/digital monitoring etc. I have configured things
in the interim to accomodate volume control from the C16. At best, I can
only achieve low levels (not silence) using the monitor level knob from the
C16.

In the patch bay window I have the ml and mr output from Mixer module A connected
to the input 1&2 of the MEC mixer window. This is the only combination I
have been able to establish which gives me any level of volume control.

Any assistance would be great appreciated.
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89706 is a reply to message #89678] Wed, 12 September 2007 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
Messages: 214
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Not totally sure what's going on with that.

My rig connects from Mixer-A, mL and mR ** to ** MEC Master-A, Out 3 & Out 4
..Out 3 & Out 4 are my physical audio connections to my monitoring system,
but could easily work as 1 & 2 if I switch the cables around. I'm not using
Mixer Modules-A for sends to the master at all.

Make sure that you don't have the "Dim" button selected on the C16.

-Carl


"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46e7f5ca$1@linux...
>
> Hey guys, my 02r died which was primarily used as a glorified talk back,
as
> well as routing, anaolog/digital monitoring etc. I have configured things
> in the interim to accomodate volume control from the C16. At best, I can
> only achieve low levels (not silence) using the monitor level knob from
the
> C16.
>
> In the patch bay window I have the ml and mr output from Mixer module A
connected
> to the input 1&2 of the MEC mixer window. This is the only combination I
> have been able to establish which gives me any level of volume control.
>
> Any assistance would be great appreciated.
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89713 is a reply to message #89706] Wed, 12 September 2007 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tyrone Corbett is currently offline  Tyrone Corbett   
Messages: 253
Registered: August 2006
Senior Member
Thanks for the info Carl. As best I can tell, our setups are the same. On
a separate note, somehow I'm not able to patch mr of the mixer to input 4
of the MEC Master. I get a message saying "Could not make the patch connection.
The input point is already connected to an output". I have removed an reastblished
the modules, but keep getting that message. Even so, I still have significant
volume when routing any other way. I can increase the gain level, but cannot
take it to 0db.

Tyrone

"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Not totally sure what's going on with that.
>
>My rig connects from Mixer-A, mL and mR ** to ** MEC Master-A, Out 3 & Out
4
>.Out 3 & Out 4 are my physical audio connections to my monitoring system,
>but could easily work as 1 & 2 if I switch the cables around. I'm not using
>Mixer Modules-A for sends to the master at all.
>
>Make sure that you don't have the "Dim" button selected on the C16.
>
>-Carl
>
>
>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:46e7f5ca$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey guys, my 02r died which was primarily used as a glorified talk back,
>as
>> well as routing, anaolog/digital monitoring etc. I have configured things
>> in the interim to accomodate volume control from the C16. At best, I can
>> only achieve low levels (not silence) using the monitor level knob from
>the
>> C16.
>>
>> In the patch bay window I have the ml and mr output from Mixer module
A
>connected
>> to the input 1&2 of the MEC mixer window. This is the only combination
I
>> have been able to establish which gives me any level of volume control.
>>
>> Any assistance would be great appreciated.
>
>
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89714 is a reply to message #89713] Wed, 12 September 2007 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tyrone Corbett is currently offline  Tyrone Corbett   
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Registered: August 2006
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I have found that if I engage the DIM button it will take enough gain off
to remove the distraction of CR level and mic leakage (I work alot in headphones
when tracking, while checking CR levels from time to time)...which will get
me through my session, but still would like to get to the bottom of this.


Tyrone

"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Thanks for the info Carl. As best I can tell, our setups are the same. On
>a separate note, somehow I'm not able to patch mr of the mixer to input
4
>of the MEC Master. I get a message saying "Could not make the patch connection.
>The input point is already connected to an output". I have removed an reastblished
>the modules, but keep getting that message. Even so, I still have significant
>volume when routing any other way. I can increase the gain level, but cannot
>take it to 0db.
>
>Tyrone
>
>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>Not totally sure what's going on with that.
>>
>>My rig connects from Mixer-A, mL and mR ** to ** MEC Master-A, Out 3 &
Out
>4
>>.Out 3 & Out 4 are my physical audio connections to my monitoring system,
>>but could easily work as 1 & 2 if I switch the cables around. I'm not using
>>Mixer Modules-A for sends to the master at all.
>>
>>Make sure that you don't have the "Dim" button selected on the C16.
>>
>>-Carl
>>
>>
>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:46e7f5ca$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey guys, my 02r died which was primarily used as a glorified talk back,
>>as
>>> well as routing, anaolog/digital monitoring etc. I have configured things
>>> in the interim to accomodate volume control from the C16. At best, I
can
>>> only achieve low levels (not silence) using the monitor level knob from
>>the
>>> C16.
>>>
>>> In the patch bay window I have the ml and mr output from Mixer module
>A
>>connected
>>> to the input 1&2 of the MEC mixer window. This is the only combination
>I
>>> have been able to establish which gives me any level of volume control.
>>>
>>> Any assistance would be great appreciated.
>>
>>
>
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89717 is a reply to message #89714] Wed, 12 September 2007 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
Just a thought... you do have the output levels set to +4... yes?

David.

Tyrone Corbett wrote:

> I have found that if I engage the DIM button it will take enough gain off
> to remove the distraction of CR level and mic leakage (I work alot in headphones
> when tracking, while checking CR levels from time to time)...which will get
> me through my session, but still would like to get to the bottom of this.
>
>
> Tyrone
>
> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the info Carl. As best I can tell, our setups are the same. On
>>a separate note, somehow I'm not able to patch mr of the mixer to input
>
> 4
>
>>of the MEC Master. I get a message saying "Could not make the patch connection.
>>The input point is already connected to an output". I have removed an reastblished
>>the modules, but keep getting that message. Even so, I still have significant
>>volume when routing any other way. I can increase the gain level, but cannot
>>take it to 0db.
>>
>>Tyrone
>>
>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Not totally sure what's going on with that.
>>>
>>>My rig connects from Mixer-A, mL and mR ** to ** MEC Master-A, Out 3 &
>
> Out
>
>>4
>>
>>>.Out 3 & Out 4 are my physical audio connections to my monitoring system,
>>>but could easily work as 1 & 2 if I switch the cables around. I'm not using
>>>Mixer Modules-A for sends to the master at all.
>>>
>>>Make sure that you don't have the "Dim" button selected on the C16.
>>>
>>>-Carl
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:46e7f5ca$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Hey guys, my 02r died which was primarily used as a glorified talk back,
>>>
>>>as
>>>
>>>>well as routing, anaolog/digital monitoring etc. I have configured things
>>>>in the interim to accomodate volume control from the C16. At best, I
>
> can
>
>>>>only achieve low levels (not silence) using the monitor level knob from
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>C16.
>>>>
>>>>In the patch bay window I have the ml and mr output from Mixer module
>>
>>A
>>
>>>connected
>>>
>>>>to the input 1&2 of the MEC mixer window. This is the only combination
>>
>>I
>>
>>>>have been able to establish which gives me any level of volume control.
>>>>
>>>>Any assistance would be great appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89718 is a reply to message #89717] Wed, 12 September 2007 13:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tyrone Corbett is currently offline  Tyrone Corbett   
Messages: 253
Registered: August 2006
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Yes sir...+4.

Tyrone

EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Just a thought... you do have the output levels set to +4... yes?
>
>David.
>
>Tyrone Corbett wrote:
>
>> I have found that if I engage the DIM button it will take enough gain
off
>> to remove the distraction of CR level and mic leakage (I work alot in
headphones
>> when tracking, while checking CR levels from time to time)...which will
get
>> me through my session, but still would like to get to the bottom of this.
>>
>>
>> Tyrone
>>
>> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks for the info Carl. As best I can tell, our setups are the same.
On
>>>a separate note, somehow I'm not able to patch mr of the mixer to input
>>
>> 4
>>
>>>of the MEC Master. I get a message saying "Could not make the patch connection.
>>>The input point is already connected to an output". I have removed an
reastblished
>>>the modules, but keep getting that message. Even so, I still have significant
>>>volume when routing any other way. I can increase the gain level, but
cannot
>>>take it to 0db.
>>>
>>>Tyrone
>>>
>>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Not totally sure what's going on with that.
>>>>
>>>>My rig connects from Mixer-A, mL and mR ** to ** MEC Master-A, Out 3
&
>>
>> Out
>>
>>>4
>>>
>>>>.Out 3 & Out 4 are my physical audio connections to my monitoring system,
>>>>but could easily work as 1 & 2 if I switch the cables around. I'm not
using
>>>>Mixer Modules-A for sends to the master at all.
>>>>
>>>>Make sure that you don't have the "Dim" button selected on the C16.
>>>>
>>>>-Carl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:46e7f5ca$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Hey guys, my 02r died which was primarily used as a glorified talk back,
>>>>
>>>>as
>>>>
>>>>>well as routing, anaolog/digital monitoring etc. I have configured things
>>>>>in the interim to accomodate volume control from the C16. At best, I
>>
>> can
>>
>>>>>only achieve low levels (not silence) using the monitor level knob from
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>C16.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the patch bay window I have the ml and mr output from Mixer module
>>>
>>>A
>>>
>>>>connected
>>>>
>>>>>to the input 1&2 of the MEC mixer window. This is the only combination
>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>>>have been able to establish which gives me any level of volume control.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any assistance would be great appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89719 is a reply to message #89718] Wed, 12 September 2007 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
If you want LESS output, switch to -10. To mute using V3, press the
dim switch twice in quick succession.

David.

Tyrone Corbett wrote:

> Yes sir...+4.
>
> Tyrone
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>Just a thought... you do have the output levels set to +4... yes?
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Tyrone Corbett wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have found that if I engage the DIM button it will take enough gain
>
> off
>
>>>to remove the distraction of CR level and mic leakage (I work alot in
>
> headphones
>
>>>when tracking, while checking CR levels from time to time)...which will
>
> get
>
>>>me through my session, but still would like to get to the bottom of this.
>>>
>>>
>>>Tyrone
>>>
>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for the info Carl. As best I can tell, our setups are the same.
>
> On
>
>>>>a separate note, somehow I'm not able to patch mr of the mixer to input
>>>
>>>4
>>>
>>>
>>>>of the MEC Master. I get a message saying "Could not make the patch connection.
>>>>The input point is already connected to an output". I have removed an
>
> reastblished
>
>>>>the modules, but keep getting that message. Even so, I still have significant
>>>>volume when routing any other way. I can increase the gain level, but
>
> cannot
>
>>>>take it to 0db.
>>>>
>>>>Tyrone
>>>>
>>>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Not totally sure what's going on with that.
>>>>>
>>>>>My rig connects from Mixer-A, mL and mR ** to ** MEC Master-A, Out 3
>
> &
>
>>>Out
>>>
>>>
>>>>4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>.Out 3 & Out 4 are my physical audio connections to my monitoring system,
>>>>>but could easily work as 1 & 2 if I switch the cables around. I'm not
>
> using
>
>>>>>Mixer Modules-A for sends to the master at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Make sure that you don't have the "Dim" button selected on the C16.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Carl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46e7f5ca$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey guys, my 02r died which was primarily used as a glorified talk back,
>>>>>
>>>>>as
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>well as routing, anaolog/digital monitoring etc. I have configured things
>>>>>>in the interim to accomodate volume control from the C16. At best, I
>>>
>>>can
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>only achieve low levels (not silence) using the monitor level knob from
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>C16.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In the patch bay window I have the ml and mr output from Mixer module
>>>>
>>>>A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>connected
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>to the input 1&2 of the MEC mixer window. This is the only combination
>>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>have been able to establish which gives me any level of volume control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any assistance would be great appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89722 is a reply to message #89718] Wed, 12 September 2007 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
Messages: 214
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Yeah, David is correct - if you want lower volumes - double click on the MEC
Master A, and select your outputs down to -10dB.

-Carl

"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46e84f6a$1@linux...
>
> Yes sir...+4.
>
> Tyrone
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
> >Just a thought... you do have the output levels set to +4... yes?
> >
> >David.
> >
> >Tyrone Corbett wrote:
> >
> >> I have found that if I engage the DIM button it will take enough gain
> off
> >> to remove the distraction of CR level and mic leakage (I work alot in
> headphones
> >> when tracking, while checking CR levels from time to time)...which will
> get
> >> me through my session, but still would like to get to the bottom of
this.
> >>
> >>
> >> Tyrone
> >>
> >> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Thanks for the info Carl. As best I can tell, our setups are the same.
> On
> >>>a separate note, somehow I'm not able to patch mr of the mixer to input
> >>
> >> 4
> >>
> >>>of the MEC Master. I get a message saying "Could not make the patch
connection.
> >>>The input point is already connected to an output". I have removed an
> reastblished
> >>>the modules, but keep getting that message. Even so, I still have
significant
> >>>volume when routing any other way. I can increase the gain level, but
> cannot
> >>>take it to 0db.
> >>>
> >>>Tyrone
> >>>
> >>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Not totally sure what's going on with that.
> >>>>
> >>>>My rig connects from Mixer-A, mL and mR ** to ** MEC Master-A, Out 3
> &
> >>
> >> Out
> >>
> >>>4
> >>>
> >>>>.Out 3 & Out 4 are my physical audio connections to my monitoring
system,
> >>>>but could easily work as 1 & 2 if I switch the cables around. I'm not
> using
> >>>>Mixer Modules-A for sends to the master at all.
> >>>>
> >>>>Make sure that you don't have the "Dim" button selected on the C16.
> >>>>
> >>>>-Carl
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:46e7f5ca$1@linux...
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hey guys, my 02r died which was primarily used as a glorified talk
back,
> >>>>
> >>>>as
> >>>>
> >>>>>well as routing, anaolog/digital monitoring etc. I have configured
things
> >>>>>in the interim to accomodate volume control from the C16. At best, I
> >>
> >> can
> >>
> >>>>>only achieve low levels (not silence) using the monitor level knob
from
> >>>>
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>>C16.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>In the patch bay window I have the ml and mr output from Mixer module
> >>>
> >>>A
> >>>
> >>>>connected
> >>>>
> >>>>>to the input 1&2 of the MEC mixer window. This is the only
combination
> >>>
> >>>I
> >>>
> >>>>>have been able to establish which gives me any level of volume
control.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Any assistance would be great appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89726 is a reply to message #89722] Wed, 12 September 2007 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tyrone Corbett is currently offline  Tyrone Corbett   
Messages: 253
Registered: August 2006
Senior Member
Great idea David. I did some tests and although the levels were even lower
at minus 10, I'm good to stay at +4. It seems as though the only way to achieve
0db from the C16 is via the SPDIF output. I'm curious as to why this is the
case, but my session is definitely manageble.

Many thanks guys!

The "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Yeah, David is correct - if you want lower volumes - double click on the
MEC
>Master A, and select your outputs down to -10dB.
>
>-Carl
>
>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:46e84f6a$1@linux...
>>
>> Yes sir...+4.
>>
>> Tyrone
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >Just a thought... you do have the output levels set to +4... yes?
>> >
>> >David.
>> >
>> >Tyrone Corbett wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have found that if I engage the DIM button it will take enough gain
>> off
>> >> to remove the distraction of CR level and mic leakage (I work alot
in
>> headphones
>> >> when tracking, while checking CR levels from time to time)...which
will
>> get
>> >> me through my session, but still would like to get to the bottom of
>this.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Tyrone
>> >>
>> >> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Thanks for the info Carl. As best I can tell, our setups are the same.
>> On
>> >>>a separate note, somehow I'm not able to patch mr of the mixer to input
>> >>
>> >> 4
>> >>
>> >>>of the MEC Master. I get a message saying "Could not make the patch
>connection.
>> >>>The input point is already connected to an output". I have removed
an
>> reastblished
>> >>>the modules, but keep getting that message. Even so, I still have
>significant
>> >>>volume when routing any other way. I can increase the gain level, but
>> cannot
>> >>>take it to 0db.
>> >>>
>> >>>Tyrone
>> >>>
>> >>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>Not totally sure what's going on with that.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>My rig connects from Mixer-A, mL and mR ** to ** MEC Master-A, Out
3
>> &
>> >>
>> >> Out
>> >>
>> >>>4
>> >>>
>> >>>>.Out 3 & Out 4 are my physical audio connections to my monitoring
>system,
>> >>>>but could easily work as 1 & 2 if I switch the cables around. I'm
not
>> using
>> >>>>Mixer Modules-A for sends to the master at all.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Make sure that you don't have the "Dim" button selected on the C16.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-Carl
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:46e7f5ca$1@linux...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Hey guys, my 02r died which was primarily used as a glorified talk
>back,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>as
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>well as routing, anaolog/digital monitoring etc. I have configured
>things
>> >>>>>in the interim to accomodate volume control from the C16. At best,
I
>> >>
>> >> can
>> >>
>> >>>>>only achieve low levels (not silence) using the monitor level knob
>from
>> >>>>
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>C16.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>In the patch bay window I have the ml and mr output from Mixer module
>> >>>
>> >>>A
>> >>>
>> >>>>connected
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>to the input 1&2 of the MEC mixer window. This is the only
>combination
>> >>>
>> >>>I
>> >>>
>> >>>>>have been able to establish which gives me any level of volume
>control.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Any assistance would be great appreciated.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>>
>
>
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89729 is a reply to message #89726] Wed, 12 September 2007 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
With the monitor pot at 12:00, and the dim switch off, you will have
"unity gain" with what is sitting at the output of the global fader.
The dim switch takes things down 20dB. The monitor pot actually
reduces digital resolution, so it's best to leave it at 12:00. If you
are still having problems getting the levels low enough, I would
suggest a nice passive volume control instead like the NHT PVC.

David.

Tyrone Corbett wrote:

> Great idea David. I did some tests and although the levels were even lower
> at minus 10, I'm good to stay at +4. It seems as though the only way to achieve
> 0db from the C16 is via the SPDIF output. I'm curious as to why this is the
> case, but my session is definitely manageble.
>
> Many thanks guys!
>
> The "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Yeah, David is correct - if you want lower volumes - double click on the
>
> MEC
>
>>Master A, and select your outputs down to -10dB.
>>
>>-Carl
>>
>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:46e84f6a$1@linux...
>>
>>>Yes sir...+4.
>>>
>>>Tyrone
>>>
>>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just a thought... you do have the output levels set to +4... yes?
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Tyrone Corbett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have found that if I engage the DIM button it will take enough gain
>>>
>>>off
>>>
>>>>>to remove the distraction of CR level and mic leakage (I work alot
>
> in
>
>>>headphones
>>>
>>>>>when tracking, while checking CR levels from time to time)...which
>
> will
>
>>>get
>>>
>>>>>me through my session, but still would like to get to the bottom of
>>
>>this.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Tyrone
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for the info Carl. As best I can tell, our setups are the same.
>>>
>>>On
>>>
>>>>>>a separate note, somehow I'm not able to patch mr of the mixer to input
>>>>>
>>>>>4
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>of the MEC Master. I get a message saying "Could not make the patch
>>
>>connection.
>>
>>>>>>The input point is already connected to an output". I have removed
>
> an
>
>>>reastblished
>>>
>>>>>>the modules, but keep getting that message. Even so, I still have
>>
>>significant
>>
>>>>>>volume when routing any other way. I can increase the gain level, but
>>>
>>>cannot
>>>
>>>>>>take it to 0db.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tyrone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not totally sure what's going on with that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My rig connects from Mixer-A, mL and mR ** to ** MEC Master-A, Out
>
> 3
>
>>>&
>>>
>>>>>Out
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>4
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.Out 3 & Out 4 are my physical audio connections to my monitoring
>>
>>system,
>>
>>>>>>>but could easily work as 1 & 2 if I switch the cables around. I'm
>
> not
>
>>>using
>>>
>>>>>>>Mixer Modules-A for sends to the master at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Make sure that you don't have the "Dim" button selected on the C16.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Carl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:46e7f5ca$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey guys, my 02r died which was primarily used as a glorified talk
>>
>>back,
>>
>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>well as routing, anaolog/digital monitoring etc. I have configured
>>
>>things
>>
>>>>>>>>in the interim to accomodate volume control from the C16. At best,
>
> I
>
>>>>>can
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>only achieve low levels (not silence) using the monitor level knob
>>
>>from
>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>C16.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In the patch bay window I have the ml and mr output from Mixer module
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>connected
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to the input 1&2 of the MEC mixer window. This is the only
>>
>>combination
>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have been able to establish which gives me any level of volume
>>
>>control.
>>
>>>>>>>>Any assistance would be great appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89731 is a reply to message #89729] Wed, 12 September 2007 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tyrone Corbett is currently offline  Tyrone Corbett   
Messages: 253
Registered: August 2006
Senior Member
I'm with you all the way David. Once I get my o2r back, the problem will be
resolved. In the mean time, I can live with it, just gotta figure out how
run a talk back to the headphones...or maybe just holler through the door
;-)

Thanks again

EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>With the monitor pot at 12:00, and the dim switch off, you will have
>"unity gain" with what is sitting at the output of the global fader.
>The dim switch takes things down 20dB. The monitor pot actually
>reduces digital resolution, so it's best to leave it at 12:00. If you
>are still having problems getting the levels low enough, I would
>suggest a nice passive volume control instead like the NHT PVC.
>
>David.
>
>Tyrone Corbett wrote:
>
>> Great idea David. I did some tests and although the levels were even lower
>> at minus 10, I'm good to stay at +4. It seems as though the only way to
achieve
>> 0db from the C16 is via the SPDIF output. I'm curious as to why this is
the
>> case, but my session is definitely manageble.
>>
>> Many thanks guys!
>>
>> The "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Yeah, David is correct - if you want lower volumes - double click on the
>>
>> MEC
>>
>>>Master A, and select your outputs down to -10dB.
>>>
>>>-Carl
>>>
>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:46e84f6a$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Yes sir...+4.
>>>>
>>>>Tyrone
>>>>
>>>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Just a thought... you do have the output levels set to +4... yes?
>>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tyrone Corbett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have found that if I engage the DIM button it will take enough gain
>>>>
>>>>off
>>>>
>>>>>>to remove the distraction of CR level and mic leakage (I work alot
>>
>> in
>>
>>>>headphones
>>>>
>>>>>>when tracking, while checking CR levels from time to time)...which
>>
>> will
>>
>>>>get
>>>>
>>>>>>me through my session, but still would like to get to the bottom of
>>>
>>>this.
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tyrone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for the info Carl. As best I can tell, our setups are the same.
>>>>
>>>>On
>>>>
>>>>>>>a separate note, somehow I'm not able to patch mr of the mixer to
input
>>>>>>
>>>>>>4
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>of the MEC Master. I get a message saying "Could not make the patch
>>>
>>>connection.
>>>
>>>>>>>The input point is already connected to an output". I have removed
>>
>> an
>>
>>>>reastblished
>>>>
>>>>>>>the modules, but keep getting that message. Even so, I still have
>>>
>>>significant
>>>
>>>>>>>volume when routing any other way. I can increase the gain level,
but
>>>>
>>>>cannot
>>>>
>>>>>>>take it to 0db.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tyrone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Not totally sure what's going on with that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My rig connects from Mixer-A, mL and mR ** to ** MEC Master-A, Out
>>
>> 3
>>
>>>>&
>>>>
>>>>>>Out
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>.Out 3 & Out 4 are my physical audio connections to my monitoring
>>>
>>>system,
>>>
>>>>>>>>but could easily work as 1 & 2 if I switch the cables around. I'm
>>
>> not
>>
>>>>using
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mixer Modules-A for sends to the master at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Make sure that you don't have the "Dim" button selected on the C16.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-Carl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:46e7f5ca$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey guys, my 02r died which was primarily used as a glorified talk
>>>
>>>back,
>>>
>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>well as routing, anaolog/digital monitoring etc. I have configured
>>>
>>>things
>>>
>>>>>>>>>in the interim to accomodate volume control from the C16. At best,
>>
>> I
>>
>>>>>>can
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>only achieve low levels (not silence) using the monitor level knob
>>>
>>>from
>>>
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>C16.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>In the patch bay window I have the ml and mr output from Mixer module
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>connected
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to the input 1&2 of the MEC mixer window. This is the only
>>>
>>>combination
>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>have been able to establish which gives me any level of volume
>>>
>>>control.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>Any assistance would be great appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89733 is a reply to message #89713] Wed, 12 September 2007 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Why not try this.
http://www.behringer.com/MON800/index.cfm?lang=eng

I've had one for a few months now, and it works really well...can't go wrong
really, less than $50.00 US
--

Martin Harrington
Lend An Ear Sound
Sydney, Australia
0414 913 247
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89734 is a reply to message #89733] Wed, 12 September 2007 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tyrone Corbett is currently offline  Tyrone Corbett   
Messages: 253
Registered: August 2006
Senior Member
Martin, this is quite cool and you cannot beat the cost for something to get
by with while awaiting my repair.

Thanks!!!!

"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Why not try this.
>http://www.behringer.com/MON800/index.cfm?lang=eng
>
>I've had one for a few months now, and it works really well...can't go wrong

>really, less than $50.00 US
>--
>
>Martin Harrington
>Lend An Ear Sound
>Sydney, Australia
>0414 913 247
>
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89736 is a reply to message #89734] Wed, 12 September 2007 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
You're welcome.--

Martin Harrington
Lend An Ear Sound
Sydney, Australia
0414 913 247
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89766 is a reply to message #89733] Thu, 13 September 2007 03:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   NORWAY
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
...or just this.
http://www.behringer.com/HA400/index.cfm?lang=eng

I have both and they're working really well. HA400 have lower headroom
and like to be on the right side of 0db.

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:51:11 +1000, "Martin Harrington"
<lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

>Why not try this.
>http://www.behringer.com/MON800/index.cfm?lang=eng
>
>I've had one for a few months now, and it works really well...can't go wrong
>really, less than $50.00 US
Re: Controlling volume with the C16 [message #89772 is a reply to message #89766] Thu, 13 September 2007 05:40 Go to previous message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
yes. I have both too, but the Mon800 is closer to what you're looking for'--

Martin Harrington
Lend An Ear Sound
Sydney, Australia
0414 913 247
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