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Correct Kick Drum Audio File any suggestions [message #92171] Wed, 31 October 2007 07:13 Go to next message
Johnny Blaze is currently offline  Johnny Blaze   
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Registered: October 2007
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Hi guys, I have brought this up before, but still trying to pick someones
brain here on this issue. I have a recorded kick drum track where the drummer
plays a single bass kick drum with a dual beater pedal. I used a D 112 AKG
kick drum microphone and it definitely has a lower gain on every kick with
his left foot. I want to use a separate audio editor program where I can
load up the .paf file that represents the recording of just the kick drum
and then it can somehow go thru and magically correct all the 2nd left foot
pedal hits to match the exact gain as the first kick drum pedal hit. Any
suggestions of a software audio file editor program that can do this with
one magic button or should I just painstakingly go kick by kick and edit
the kick to match exact gains? The compression tool that comes with paris
is just not doing the trick.

Johnny
Re: Correct Kick Drum Audio File any suggestions [message #92172 is a reply to message #92171] Wed, 31 October 2007 07:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Either crank it up and use a limiter so all kicks become the same level (i
like buzzimax3 limiter) or use drumagog and replace all the kicks above threshold
with a sample.

John

"Johnny Blaze" <johnny728@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hi guys, I have brought this up before, but still trying to pick someones
>brain here on this issue. I have a recorded kick drum track where the drummer
>plays a single bass kick drum with a dual beater pedal. I used a D 112
AKG
>kick drum microphone and it definitely has a lower gain on every kick with
>his left foot. I want to use a separate audio editor program where I can
>load up the .paf file that represents the recording of just the kick drum
>and then it can somehow go thru and magically correct all the 2nd left foot
>pedal hits to match the exact gain as the first kick drum pedal hit. Any
>suggestions of a software audio file editor program that can do this with
>one magic button or should I just painstakingly go kick by kick and edit
>the kick to match exact gains? The compression tool that comes with paris
>is just not doing the trick.
>
>Johnny
>
Re: Correct Kick Drum Audio File any suggestions [message #92173 is a reply to message #92172] Wed, 31 October 2007 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Johnny,
I think it will be possible to limit the kick track enough
actually even them out and as John said throw Drumagog
after the limiter to trigger another kick sound that will be nice=20
and even. Drumagog is cool.

You might be lucky enough to use just the limiter for this.
NoLimit has a powerful sound for this but tone shaping will be needed
do to the over-phatness that will occur at such high levels.
Good luck,
Tom



"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:472883f7$1@linux...

Either crank it up and use a limiter so all kicks become the same =
level (i
like buzzimax3 limiter) or use drumagog and replace all the kicks =
above threshold
with a sample.

John

"Johnny Blaze" <johnny728@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hi guys, I have brought this up before, but still trying to pick =
someones
>brain here on this issue. I have a recorded kick drum track where =
the drummer
>plays a single bass kick drum with a dual beater pedal. I used a D =
112
AKG
>kick drum microphone and it definitely has a lower gain on every kick =
with
>his left foot. I want to use a separate audio editor program where I =
can
>load up the .paf file that represents the recording of just the kick =
drum
>and then it can somehow go thru and magically correct all the 2nd =
left foot
>pedal hits to match the exact gain as the first kick drum pedal hit. =
Any
>suggestions of a software audio file editor program that can do this =
with
>one magic button or should I just painstakingly go kick by kick and =
edit
>the kick to match exact gains? The compression tool that comes with =
paris
>is just not doing the trick.
>
>Johnny
>



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and even.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>do to the over-phatness that will occur =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
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Re: Correct Kick Drum Audio File any suggestions [message #92176 is a reply to message #92171] Wed, 31 October 2007 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
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On Windows = Cool Edit Pro v2.0, with the paf filter (paf.flt - available on
a few Paris sites).

That, or just have the guy play the way he should. :)

-Carl

"Johnny Blaze" <johnny728@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:47287f87$1@linux...
>
> Hi guys, I have brought this up before, but still trying to pick someones
> brain here on this issue. I have a recorded kick drum track where the
drummer
> plays a single bass kick drum with a dual beater pedal. I used a D 112
AKG
> kick drum microphone and it definitely has a lower gain on every kick with
> his left foot. I want to use a separate audio editor program where I can
> load up the .paf file that represents the recording of just the kick drum
> and then it can somehow go thru and magically correct all the 2nd left
foot
> pedal hits to match the exact gain as the first kick drum pedal hit. Any
> suggestions of a software audio file editor program that can do this with
> one magic button or should I just painstakingly go kick by kick and edit
> the kick to match exact gains? The compression tool that comes with paris
> is just not doing the trick.
>
> Johnny
>
Re: Correct Kick Drum Audio File any suggestions [message #92220 is a reply to message #92176] Thu, 01 November 2007 01:35 Go to previous message
Erling is currently offline  Erling   NORWAY
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As you're saying, Carl and Adobe, that buied CoolEditPro and gave it
the name Audition, can do the same thing with the paf filter.

Erling

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:11:20 -0600, "Carl Amburn"
<carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:

>On Windows = Cool Edit Pro v2.0, with the paf filter (paf.flt - available on
>a few Paris sites).
>
>That, or just have the guy play the way he should. :)
>
>-Carl
>
>"Johnny Blaze" <johnny728@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:47287f87$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi guys, I have brought this up before, but still trying to pick someones
>> brain here on this issue. I have a recorded kick drum track where the
>drummer
>> plays a single bass kick drum with a dual beater pedal. I used a D 112
>AKG
>> kick drum microphone and it definitely has a lower gain on every kick with
>> his left foot. I want to use a separate audio editor program where I can
>> load up the .paf file that represents the recording of just the kick drum
>> and then it can somehow go thru and magically correct all the 2nd left
>foot
>> pedal hits to match the exact gain as the first kick drum pedal hit. Any
>> suggestions of a software audio file editor program that can do this with
>> one magic button or should I just painstakingly go kick by kick and edit
>> the kick to match exact gains? The compression tool that comes with paris
>> is just not doing the trick.
>>
>> Johnny
>>
>
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