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Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92858] Mon, 19 November 2007 06:28 Go to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked here.
I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing with
acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the singer
playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar (panned
right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she was singing
into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was hard for her to
even hear herself in the cans but given the circumstances, I think she did a
good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the
dubs and what freq's I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more
separation so that they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun
project but a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to
working with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for
this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar
freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night
when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the right
channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.

http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92859 is a reply to message #92858] Mon, 19 November 2007 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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can't get the link to work for me.


DJ wrote:
> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked here.
> I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing with
> acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the singer
> playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar (panned
> right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she was singing
> into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was hard for her to
> even hear herself in the cans but given the circumstances, I think she did a
> good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the
> dubs and what freq's I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more
> separation so that they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun
> project but a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to
> working with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for
> this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar
> freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night
> when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the right
> channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92862 is a reply to message #92859] Mon, 19 November 2007 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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That's probably because you never answered my questiion about whether I
could use 32 bit Magma's with XP64 and be able to access additional RAM.

;oD

"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:4741c2d5$1@linux...
> can't get the link to work for me.
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked here.
>> I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing
>> with acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the
>> singer playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar
>> (panned right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she
>> was singing into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was
>> hard for her to even hear herself in the cans but given the
>> circumstances, I think she did a good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm
>> going to use for her voice on the dubs and what freq's I'm going to
>> massage on the guitars to get more separation so that they will sound
>> balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun project but a very "brown
>> sound"......something I'm not accustomed to working with. I'm going to
>> have to tune my antennae in a different way for this one. I've already
>> had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar freqs between 1-4k
>> which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night when I bounced
>> this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the right channel. Any
>> suggestions would be welcome.
>>
>> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92863 is a reply to message #92862] Mon, 19 November 2007 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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Hi DJ,
Oh I see how it is.....


This might answer your question.

http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2006/december/index5.html

Don't know if the older chassis' behave the same as the newer ones or not.
Also not sure what xp64 might bring to the mix in the way of compatibility.

Chris



DJ wrote:
> That's probably because you never answered my questiion about whether I
> could use 32 bit Magma's with XP64 and be able to access additional RAM.
>
> ;oD
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:4741c2d5$1@linux...
>> can't get the link to work for me.
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked here.
>>> I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing
>>> with acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the
>>> singer playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar
>>> (panned right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she
>>> was singing into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was
>>> hard for her to even hear herself in the cans but given the
>>> circumstances, I think she did a good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm
>>> going to use for her voice on the dubs and what freq's I'm going to
>>> massage on the guitars to get more separation so that they will sound
>>> balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun project but a very "brown
>>> sound"......something I'm not accustomed to working with. I'm going to
>>> have to tune my antennae in a different way for this one. I've already
>>> had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar freqs between 1-4k
>>> which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night when I bounced
>>> this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the right channel. Any
>>> suggestions would be welcome.
>>>
>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92865 is a reply to message #92858] Mon, 19 November 2007 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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I'd try any 'fancy' vocal mics you might use on any other vocalist, but I'd
also give a very serious listen to both a 57 and a 58. Sometimes cheap, flat,
and familiar sounds good on a punk rock vocal.

TCB

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked here.

>I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing with

>acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the singer

>playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar (panned

>right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she was singing

>into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was hard for her to

>even hear herself in the cans but given the circumstances, I think she did
a
>good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the

>dubs and what freq's I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more
>separation so that they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a
fun
>project but a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to
>working with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for

>this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar

>freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night

>when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the right

>channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>
>http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92868 is a reply to message #92858] Mon, 19 November 2007 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
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Link didn't work for me either.

- - I'd say break out some old Iggy Pop & the Stooges, Bad Brains, Sex
Pistols, etc., for some reference.

rock on,
-Carl

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:47419edf@linux...
> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked here.
> I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing with
> acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the singer
> playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar (panned
> right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she was
> singing into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was hard for
> her to even hear herself in the cans but given the circumstances, I think
> she did a good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm going to use for her
> voice on the dubs and what freq's I'm going to massage on the guitars to
> get more separation so that they will sound balancd and sit in the mix.
> This is a fun project but a very "brown sound"......something I'm not
> accustomed to working with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a
> different way for this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting
> the rythym guitar freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda'
> fried last night when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit
> heavy on the right channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92870 is a reply to message #92865] Mon, 19 November 2007 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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any of you guys able to DL the song???...just curious....



"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:474203c9$1@linux...
>
> I'd try any 'fancy' vocal mics you might use on any other vocalist, but
> I'd
> also give a very serious listen to both a 57 and a 58. Sometimes cheap,
> flat,
> and familiar sounds good on a punk rock vocal.
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked here.
>
>>I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing with
>
>>acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the singer
>
>>playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar (panned
>
>>right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she was
>>singing
>
>>into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was hard for her to
>
>>even hear herself in the cans but given the circumstances, I think she did
> a
>>good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the
>
>>dubs and what freq's I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more
>>separation so that they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a
> fun
>>project but a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to
>>working with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for
>
>>this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar
>
>>freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night
>
>>when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the right
>
>>channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>>
>>http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>>
>>
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92871 is a reply to message #92863] Mon, 19 November 2007 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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Hey Chris,

Thanks for the info. Did you get the MP3 I sent? -BTW, do you guys do
trade-ins on PCI RME hardware for PCIe?


"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:4741f618@linux...
> Hi DJ,
> Oh I see how it is.....
>
>
> This might answer your question.
>
> http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2006/december/index5.html
>
> Don't know if the older chassis' behave the same as the newer ones or not.
> Also not sure what xp64 might bring to the mix in the way of
> compatibility.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> That's probably because you never answered my questiion about whether I
>> could use 32 bit Magma's with XP64 and be able to access additional RAM.
>>
>> ;oD
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:4741c2d5$1@linux...
>>> can't get the link to work for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked
>>>> here. I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been
>>>> dealing with acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix
>>>> with the singer playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had
>>>> her guitar (panned right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation
>>>> cabinet and she was singing into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit.
>>>> I'm sure it was hard for her to even hear herself in the cans but given
>>>> the circumstances, I think she did a good job. Not sure what kind of
>>>> mic I'm going to use for her voice on the dubs and what freq's I'm
>>>> going to massage on the guitars to get more separation so that they
>>>> will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun project but a very
>>>> "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to working with. I'm
>>>> going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for this one. I've
>>>> already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar freqs
>>>> between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night
>>>> when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the
>>>> right channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92873 is a reply to message #92858] Mon, 19 November 2007 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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Link ain't working for me, either.

So it's "Chick-Punk", huh? I'd try that C-1 if you still have
it, but run it through your 737 to warm it up & take some of
the edge off (hit it with the compressor, too)... on a female
voice that combination it might give you just the right amount
of rasp for that genre.


Neil


"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked here.

>I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing with

>acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the singer

>playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar (panned

>right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she was singing

>into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was hard for her to

>even hear herself in the cans but given the circumstances, I think she did
a
>good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the

>dubs and what freq's I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more
>separation so that they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a
fun
>project but a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to
>working with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for

>this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar

>freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night

>when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the right

>channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>
>http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92879 is a reply to message #92870] Mon, 19 November 2007 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot   UNITED STATES
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Hey DJ
Link doesn't seem to be working. I've waited about three minutes to hook
up. No luck. Would you mind describing "brown sound" a little more? I've
heard the term before relative to electric guitars. Sounds kind of
poo-like, unflattering :-)
MR

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:474209a5@linux...
> any of you guys able to DL the song???...just curious....
>
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:474203c9$1@linux...
> >
> > I'd try any 'fancy' vocal mics you might use on any other vocalist, but
> > I'd
> > also give a very serious listen to both a 57 and a 58. Sometimes cheap,
> > flat,
> > and familiar sounds good on a punk rock vocal.
> >
> > TCB
> >
> > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> >>I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked
here.
> >
> >>I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing
with
> >
> >>acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the singer
> >
> >>playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar
(panned
> >
> >>right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she was
> >>singing
> >
> >>into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was hard for her
to
> >
> >>even hear herself in the cans but given the circumstances, I think she
did
> > a
> >>good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on
the
> >
> >>dubs and what freq's I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more
> >>separation so that they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a
> > fun
> >>project but a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to
> >>working with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way
for
> >
> >>this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym
guitar
> >
> >>freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last
night
> >
> >>when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the
right
> >
> >>channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
> >>
> >>http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92884 is a reply to message #92873] Mon, 19 November 2007 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cujjo is currently offline  Cujjo   
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I do some "classic" punk, sort of in the 1977-79 mode...
Can't hear the tune, but, great punk is not all screaming, Joey Ramone was
a singer emulating Ronnie Spector!..I used a lawson L47 before. My 2247 seems
a bit too thick for "Punk"
Been digging a 421 as well, sometimes using the filter
I like the first CD of a Girl group called Sahara Hotnights...Check that
one out.

"Neil" <OIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Link ain't working for me, either.
>
>So it's "Chick-Punk", huh? I'd try that C-1 if you still have
>it, but run it through your 737 to warm it up & take some of
>the edge off (hit it with the compressor, too)... on a female
>voice that combination it might give you just the right amount
>of rasp for that genre.
>
>
>Neil
>
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked here.
>
>>I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing with
>
>>acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the singer
>
>>playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar (panned
>
>>right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she was singing
>
>>into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was hard for her
to
>
>>even hear herself in the cans but given the circumstances, I think she
did
>a
>>good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the
>
>>dubs and what freq's I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more
>>separation so that they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is
a
>fun
>>project but a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to
>>working with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way
for
>
>>this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar
>
>>freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night
>
>>when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the right
>
>>channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>>
>>http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>>
>>
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92914 is a reply to message #92858] Tue, 20 November 2007 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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For vocals, either a 421 or an SM7...

David.

DJ wrote:
> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked here.
> I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing with
> acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the singer
> playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar (panned
> right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she was singing
> into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was hard for her to
> even hear herself in the cans but given the circumstances, I think she did a
> good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the
> dubs and what freq's I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more
> separation so that they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun
> project but a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to
> working with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for
> this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar
> freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night
> when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the right
> channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92915 is a reply to message #92914] Tue, 20 November 2007 11:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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Hi David,
Yes to make it more punk you need to plug in the sm57 into a peavey tnt
bass amp then crank it and put another sm57 close miced at the cone.
That sm57 then need to go to a Tascam 424 the out to a mackie mixer then
to DJs rig.


Chris


EK Sound wrote:
> For vocals, either a 421 or an SM7...
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked
>> here. I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been
>> dealing with acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix
>> with the singer playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had
>> her guitar (panned right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation
>> cabinet and she was singing into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit.
>> I'm sure it was hard for her to even hear herself in the cans but
>> given the circumstances, I think she did a good job. Not sure what
>> kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the dubs and what freq's
>> I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more separation so that
>> they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun project but
>> a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to working
>> with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for
>> this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym
>> guitar freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried
>> last night when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit
>> heavy on the right channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>>
>> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92920 is a reply to message #92915] Tue, 20 November 2007 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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As strange as that sounds... I had a singer for a band come in once with
two small combo amps, an old beat up Radio Shack mic, and an assortment
of bad cables. I thought he was the guitar player, but soon found out
he was the lead singer. He plugged the mic into the two amps with the
menagerie of adapters and cables. I put a '57 on each amp. Once the
music rolled, he was bouncing around the room screaming into the mic
cupped with both hands. The resulting distorted mess was indeed the
lead vocal track. He was really happy with the sound I got... :-\

David.

Chris Ludwig wrote:

> Hi David,
> Yes to make it more punk you need to plug in the sm57 into a peavey tnt
> bass amp then crank it and put another sm57 close miced at the cone.
> That sm57 then need to go to a Tascam 424 the out to a mackie mixer then
> to DJs rig.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> EK Sound wrote:
>
>> For vocals, either a 421 or an SM7...
>>
>> David.
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>
>>> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked
>>> here. I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been
>>> dealing with acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix
>>> with the singer playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I
>>> had her guitar (panned right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an
>>> isolation cabinet and she was singing into an old '58 over the (very
>>> loud) kit. I'm sure it was hard for her to even hear herself in the
>>> cans but given the circumstances, I think she did a good job. Not
>>> sure what kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the dubs and
>>> what freq's I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more
>>> separation so that they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This
>>> is a fun project but a very "brown sound"......something I'm not
>>> accustomed to working with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in
>>> a different way for this one. I've already had one suggestion about
>>> cutting the rythym guitar freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try.
>>> I was kinda' fried last night when I bounced this down. This morning
>>> it sounds a bit heavy on the right channel. Any suggestions would be
>>> welcome.
>>>
>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>>>
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92924 is a reply to message #92870] Tue, 20 November 2007 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
Senior Member
I was able to DL the song. Definitely sounding brown. I'd give her a 57 up
real close, then work toward a more purple sound. :)

S


"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:474209a5@linux...
> any of you guys able to DL the song???...just curious....
>
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:474203c9$1@linux...
>>
>> I'd try any 'fancy' vocal mics you might use on any other vocalist, but
>> I'd
>> also give a very serious listen to both a 57 and a 58. Sometimes cheap,
>> flat,
>> and familiar sounds good on a punk rock vocal.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked here.
>>
>>>I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been dealing
>>>with
>>
>>>acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix with the singer
>>
>>>playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had her guitar (panned
>>
>>>right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation cabinet and she was
>>>singing
>>
>>>into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit. I'm sure it was hard for her to
>>
>>>even hear herself in the cans but given the circumstances, I think she
>>>did
>> a
>>>good job. Not sure what kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the
>>
>>>dubs and what freq's I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more
>>>separation so that they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a
>> fun
>>>project but a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to
>>>working with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way
>>>for
>>
>>>this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar
>>
>>>freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night
>>
>>>when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the right
>>
>>>channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>>>
>>>http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92929 is a reply to message #92920] Tue, 20 November 2007 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
And here I was thinking, all you needed was a shure vocalmaster column
speaker and an old tube amp. Make sure the speakers are oiled though
(seriously).

AA


"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4743417d@linux...
> As strange as that sounds... I had a singer for a band come in once with
> two small combo amps, an old beat up Radio Shack mic, and an assortment of
> bad cables. I thought he was the guitar player, but soon found out he was
> the lead singer. He plugged the mic into the two amps with the menagerie
> of adapters and cables. I put a '57 on each amp. Once the music rolled,
> he was bouncing around the room screaming into the mic cupped with both
> hands. The resulting distorted mess was indeed the lead vocal track. He
> was really happy with the sound I got... :-\
>
> David.
>
> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>> Yes to make it more punk you need to plug in the sm57 into a peavey tnt
>> bass amp then crank it and put another sm57 close miced at the cone. That
>> sm57 then need to go to a Tascam 424 the out to a mackie mixer then to
>> DJs rig.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> EK Sound wrote:
>>
>>> For vocals, either a 421 or an SM7...
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked
>>>> here. I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been
>>>> dealing with acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix
>>>> with the singer playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had
>>>> her guitar (panned right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation
>>>> cabinet and she was singing into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit.
>>>> I'm sure it was hard for her to even hear herself in the cans but given
>>>> the circumstances, I think she did a good job. Not sure what kind of
>>>> mic I'm going to use for her voice on the dubs and what freq's I'm
>>>> going to massage on the guitars to get more separation so that they
>>>> will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun project but a very
>>>> "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to working with. I'm
>>>> going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for this one. I've
>>>> already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym guitar freqs
>>>> between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried last night
>>>> when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit heavy on the
>>>> right channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>>>>
>>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92932 is a reply to message #92915] Tue, 20 November 2007 20:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cujjo is currently offline  Cujjo   
Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
ha ha I have rune vocals out into my practice PA and re amped them!
But really, the greatest punk band of all times (and one of the greatest
rock bands) recorded their greatest record's vocals through a 58 beacuse
the singer's teeth we so fucked


Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi David,
>Yes to make it more punk you need to plug in the sm57 into a peavey tnt

>bass amp then crank it and put another sm57 close miced at the cone.
>That sm57 then need to go to a Tascam 424 the out to a mackie mixer then

>to DJs rig.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>EK Sound wrote:
>> For vocals, either a 421 or an SM7...
>>
>> David.
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked
>>> here. I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been
>>> dealing with acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix

>>> with the singer playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had

>>> her guitar (panned right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation
>>> cabinet and she was singing into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit.

>>> I'm sure it was hard for her to even hear herself in the cans but
>>> given the circumstances, I think she did a good job. Not sure what
>>> kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the dubs and what freq's

>>> I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more separation so that
>>> they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun project but

>>> a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to working
>>> with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for
>>> this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym
>>> guitar freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried

>>> last night when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit
>>> heavy on the right channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>>>
>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92945 is a reply to message #92932] Tue, 20 November 2007 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   NORWAY
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Isn't that just a myth? (I guess you're talking about Sex Pistols - Never
Mind The Bollocks). I saw a TV-documentary of that recording, and mr. Lydon
didn't use a SM 58 in that footage.
Another myth is that they recorded hundreds of tracks to make Steve Jones'
great guitar sound. That's wrong, he had already found "his" sound, with a
combination of guitar, amp, distortion and chorus. They just recorded one
guitar-track, copied it to another track and panned opposite. The guitar is
simply in dual mono. Then a track or two with fills, and that's it.
And they didn't have a bass-player at the time, Steve Jones had to play that
too. It's played exactly as the guitar, only one octave lower. The sound,
the power and the mix on that record is incredible. "We mean it maaan!"
(Vinyl version that is, they took away some of the magic when they mastered
the CD-version).

Bjorn R


"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:47439f8e$1@linux...
>
>
> ha ha I have rune vocals out into my practice PA and re amped them!
> But really, the greatest punk band of all times (and one of the greatest
> rock bands) recorded their greatest record's vocals through a 58 beacuse
> the singer's teeth we so fucked
>
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> >Hi David,
> >Yes to make it more punk you need to plug in the sm57 into a peavey tnt
>
> >bass amp then crank it and put another sm57 close miced at the cone.
> >That sm57 then need to go to a Tascam 424 the out to a mackie mixer then
>
> >to DJs rig.
> >
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >EK Sound wrote:
> >> For vocals, either a 421 or an SM7...
> >>
> >> David.
> >>
> >> DJ wrote:
> >>> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked
> >>> here. I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been
> >>> dealing with acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough mix
>
> >>> with the singer playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I had
>
> >>> her guitar (panned right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation
> >>> cabinet and she was singing into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit.
>
> >>> I'm sure it was hard for her to even hear herself in the cans but
> >>> given the circumstances, I think she did a good job. Not sure what
> >>> kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the dubs and what freq's
>
> >>> I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more separation so that
> >>> they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun project but
>
> >>> a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to working
> >>> with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for
> >>> this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym
> >>> guitar freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried
>
> >>> last night when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit
> >>> heavy on the right channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
> >>>
> >
> >--
> >Chris Ludwig
> >
> >ADK Pro Audio
> >(859) 635-5762
> >www.adkproaudio.com
> >chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92948 is a reply to message #92945] Wed, 21 November 2007 07:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cujjo is currently offline  Cujjo   
Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Heheheheh..No I refer to Mr Strummer and the album London Calling..Much more
monumental than Bollocks... I listen to LC at least every week..have not
listened to the Pistols for 20 years!
I've seen pics of Lydon with an 87 or something.

The Clash were an amazing band... Listen to Bankrobber, Clampdown, Police
On My Back, Pressure Drops, Magnificent Seven..man..great shit. Good at covers
too.

Anyway there is a good piece on the recording of LC at mixonline. By the
way..very well recorded in my opinion. Not screamy trash at all.

I think I hear phasor on Steve Jones during Anarchy For The Uk.


"BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>Isn't that just a myth? (I guess you're talking about Sex Pistols - Never
>Mind The Bollocks). I saw a TV-documentary of that recording, and mr. Lydon
>didn't use a SM 58 in that footage.
>Another myth is that they recorded hundreds of tracks to make Steve Jones'
>great guitar sound. That's wrong, he had already found "his" sound, with
a
>combination of guitar, amp, distortion and chorus. They just recorded one
>guitar-track, copied it to another track and panned opposite. The guitar
is
>simply in dual mono. Then a track or two with fills, and that's it.
>And they didn't have a bass-player at the time, Steve Jones had to play
that
>too. It's played exactly as the guitar, only one octave lower. The sound,
>the power and the mix on that record is incredible. "We mean it maaan!"
>(Vinyl version that is, they took away some of the magic when they mastered
>the CD-version).
>
>Bjorn R
>
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:47439f8e$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> ha ha I have rune vocals out into my practice PA and re amped them!
>> But really, the greatest punk band of all times (and one of the greatest
>> rock bands) recorded their greatest record's vocals through a 58 beacuse
>> the singer's teeth we so fucked
>>
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> >Hi David,
>> >Yes to make it more punk you need to plug in the sm57 into a peavey tnt
>>
>> >bass amp then crank it and put another sm57 close miced at the cone.
>> >That sm57 then need to go to a Tascam 424 the out to a mackie mixer then
>>
>> >to DJs rig.
>> >
>> >
>> >Chris
>> >
>> >
>> >EK Sound wrote:
>> >> For vocals, either a 421 or an SM7...
>> >>
>> >> David.
>> >>
>> >> DJ wrote:
>> >>> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked
>> >>> here. I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been
>> >>> dealing with acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough
mix
>>
>> >>> with the singer playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I
had
>>
>> >>> her guitar (panned right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation
>> >>> cabinet and she was singing into an old '58 over the (very loud) kit.
>>
>> >>> I'm sure it was hard for her to even hear herself in the cans but
>> >>> given the circumstances, I think she did a good job. Not sure what
>> >>> kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the dubs and what freq's
>>
>> >>> I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more separation so that
>> >>> they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun project
but
>>
>> >>> a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to working
>> >>> with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for
>> >>> this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym
>> >>> guitar freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda' fried
>>
>> >>> last night when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit
>> >>> heavy on the right channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>> >>>
>> >
>> >--
>> >Chris Ludwig
>> >
>> >ADK Pro Audio
>> >(859) 635-5762
>> >www.adkproaudio.com
>> >chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92949 is a reply to message #92948] Wed, 21 November 2007 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   NORWAY
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
What, two british punk-singers with bad teeth? :-)
Got London Calling, I saw the Clash when they were touring for the album. I
love it, but I don't think of it as punk, more as classic rock'n roll. (And
that's fine with me :-)
I used Pistols "EMI" as refererence on a punk-tune I mixed. Amazing things
going on there.
Bjorn R


"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:474442a8$1@linux...
>
>
> Heheheheh..No I refer to Mr Strummer and the album London Calling..Much
more
> monumental than Bollocks... I listen to LC at least every week..have not
> listened to the Pistols for 20 years!
> I've seen pics of Lydon with an 87 or something.
>
> The Clash were an amazing band... Listen to Bankrobber, Clampdown, Police
> On My Back, Pressure Drops, Magnificent Seven..man..great shit. Good at
covers
> too.
>
> Anyway there is a good piece on the recording of LC at mixonline. By the
> way..very well recorded in my opinion. Not screamy trash at all.
>
> I think I hear phasor on Steve Jones during Anarchy For The Uk.
>
>
> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >Isn't that just a myth? (I guess you're talking about Sex Pistols - Never
> >Mind The Bollocks). I saw a TV-documentary of that recording, and mr.
Lydon
> >didn't use a SM 58 in that footage.
> >Another myth is that they recorded hundreds of tracks to make Steve
Jones'
> >great guitar sound. That's wrong, he had already found "his" sound, with
> a
> >combination of guitar, amp, distortion and chorus. They just recorded one
> >guitar-track, copied it to another track and panned opposite. The guitar
> is
> >simply in dual mono. Then a track or two with fills, and that's it.
> >And they didn't have a bass-player at the time, Steve Jones had to play
> that
> >too. It's played exactly as the guitar, only one octave lower. The sound,
> >the power and the mix on that record is incredible. "We mean it maaan!"
> >(Vinyl version that is, they took away some of the magic when they
mastered
> >the CD-version).
> >
> >Bjorn R
> >
> >
> >"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:47439f8e$1@linux...
> >>
> >>
> >> ha ha I have rune vocals out into my practice PA and re amped them!
> >> But really, the greatest punk band of all times (and one of the
greatest
> >> rock bands) recorded their greatest record's vocals through a 58
beacuse
> >> the singer's teeth we so fucked
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> >> >Hi David,
> >> >Yes to make it more punk you need to plug in the sm57 into a peavey
tnt
> >>
> >> >bass amp then crank it and put another sm57 close miced at the cone.
> >> >That sm57 then need to go to a Tascam 424 the out to a mackie mixer
then
> >>
> >> >to DJs rig.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Chris
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >EK Sound wrote:
> >> >> For vocals, either a 421 or an SM7...
> >> >>
> >> >> David.
> >> >>
> >> >> DJ wrote:
> >> >>> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked
> >> >>> here. I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've been
> >> >>> dealing with acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough
> mix
> >>
> >> >>> with the singer playing/singing in the same room with the drums. I
> had
> >>
> >> >>> her guitar (panned right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation
> >> >>> cabinet and she was singing into an old '58 over the (very loud)
kit.
> >>
> >> >>> I'm sure it was hard for her to even hear herself in the cans but
> >> >>> given the circumstances, I think she did a good job. Not sure what
> >> >>> kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the dubs and what
freq's
> >>
> >> >>> I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more separation so that
> >> >>> they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun project
> but
> >>
> >> >>> a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to working
> >> >>> with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way for
> >> >>> this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym
> >> >>> guitar freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda'
fried
> >>
> >> >>> last night when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit
> >> >>> heavy on the right channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Chris Ludwig
> >> >
> >> >ADK Pro Audio
> >> >(859) 635-5762
> >> >www.adkproaudio.com
> >> >chrisl@adkproaudio.com
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Any of youfolks" do punk? [message #92962 is a reply to message #92949] Thu, 22 November 2007 00:52 Go to previous message
Cujjo is currently offline  Cujjo   
Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
EMI is about excitement for sure. something like Tommy Gun or Safe European
Home have so much more depth....Another classic and very well recorded album
is The Jam, All Mod Cons...Wow! My wife is a brit and she actually relates
more to The jam than The Clash...English Rose is lovely and so is didn;t
we have a nice time

By the by...a big influence on all these bands was a reggae band callled
Culture..please listen to 2 Sevens Clash Oh and don't forget my band The
Blizzard of 78 collaborated with reggae MC great Mikey Dread on a clash tune...
listen to it on Itunes..He is very sick right now.



"BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>What, two british punk-singers with bad teeth? :-)
>Got London Calling, I saw the Clash when they were touring for the album.
I
>love it, but I don't think of it as punk, more as classic rock'n roll. (And
>that's fine with me :-)
>I used Pistols "EMI" as refererence on a punk-tune I mixed. Amazing things
>going on there.
>Bjorn R
>
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:474442a8$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Heheheheh..No I refer to Mr Strummer and the album London Calling..Much
>more
>> monumental than Bollocks... I listen to LC at least every week..have not
>> listened to the Pistols for 20 years!
>> I've seen pics of Lydon with an 87 or something.
>>
>> The Clash were an amazing band... Listen to Bankrobber, Clampdown, Police
>> On My Back, Pressure Drops, Magnificent Seven..man..great shit. Good at
>covers
>> too.
>>
>> Anyway there is a good piece on the recording of LC at mixonline. By the
>> way..very well recorded in my opinion. Not screamy trash at all.
>>
>> I think I hear phasor on Steve Jones during Anarchy For The Uk.
>>
>>
>> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >Isn't that just a myth? (I guess you're talking about Sex Pistols - Never
>> >Mind The Bollocks). I saw a TV-documentary of that recording, and mr.
>Lydon
>> >didn't use a SM 58 in that footage.
>> >Another myth is that they recorded hundreds of tracks to make Steve
>Jones'
>> >great guitar sound. That's wrong, he had already found "his" sound, with
>> a
>> >combination of guitar, amp, distortion and chorus. They just recorded
one
>> >guitar-track, copied it to another track and panned opposite. The guitar
>> is
>> >simply in dual mono. Then a track or two with fills, and that's it.
>> >And they didn't have a bass-player at the time, Steve Jones had to play
>> that
>> >too. It's played exactly as the guitar, only one octave lower. The sound,
>> >the power and the mix on that record is incredible. "We mean it maaan!"
>> >(Vinyl version that is, they took away some of the magic when they
>mastered
>> >the CD-version).
>> >
>> >Bjorn R
>> >
>> >
>> >"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>news:47439f8e$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ha ha I have rune vocals out into my practice PA and re amped them!
>> >> But really, the greatest punk band of all times (and one of the
>greatest
>> >> rock bands) recorded their greatest record's vocals through a 58
>beacuse
>> >> the singer's teeth we so fucked
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> >> >Hi David,
>> >> >Yes to make it more punk you need to plug in the sm57 into a peavey
>tnt
>> >>
>> >> >bass amp then crank it and put another sm57 close miced at the cone.
>> >> >That sm57 then need to go to a Tascam 424 the out to a mackie mixer
>then
>> >>
>> >> >to DJs rig.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Chris
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >EK Sound wrote:
>> >> >> For vocals, either a 421 or an SM7...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> David.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> DJ wrote:
>> >> >>> I'm getting ready to do some vocal OD's on a punk project I tracked
>> >> >>> here. I've done a few rock'esque and pop mixes but mostly I've
been
>> >> >>> dealing with acoustic instruments these days. Here's a very rough
>> mix
>> >>
>> >> >>> with the singer playing/singing in the same room with the drums.
I
>> had
>> >>
>> >> >>> her guitar (panned right if facing stage) mic'ed up in an isolation
>> >> >>> cabinet and she was singing into an old '58 over the (very loud)
>kit.
>> >>
>> >> >>> I'm sure it was hard for her to even hear herself in the cans but
>> >> >>> given the circumstances, I think she did a good job. Not sure what
>> >> >>> kind of mic I'm going to use for her voice on the dubs and what
>freq's
>> >>
>> >> >>> I'm going to massage on the guitars to get more separation so that
>> >> >>> they will sound balancd and sit in the mix. This is a fun project
>> but
>> >>
>> >> >>> a very "brown sound"......something I'm not accustomed to working
>> >> >>> with. I'm going to have to tune my antennae in a different way
for
>> >> >>> this one. I've already had one suggestion about cutting the rythym
>> >> >>> guitar freqs between 1-4k which I am going to try. I was kinda'
>fried
>> >>
>> >> >>> last night when I bounced this down. This morning it sounds a bit
>> >> >>> heavy on the right channel. Any suggestions would be welcome.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://www.mediafire.com/?7yin02vmcb0
>> >> >>>
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Chris Ludwig
>> >> >
>> >> >ADK Pro Audio
>> >> >(859) 635-5762
>> >> >www.adkproaudio.com
>> >> >chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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