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The press and thre war [message #96807] Fri, 14 March 2008 07:28 Go to next message
Deej [5] is currently offline  Deej [5]   FRANCE
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Maybe I shouldn't have read this so early in the morning.......

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/iraq/2008/03/12/are-iraq i-insurgents-=
emboldened-by-antiwar-reporting.html

of course there is the usual weaselling, as follows:

The city of Baghdad, for a variety of reasons, was excluded from the =
report. The authors contend that looking at the outside provinces, where =
65 percent of insurgent attacks take place, is a better way to =
understand the effect they have discovered. Other population centers =
like Mosul, Basra, Kirkuk, and Najaf were included in the study.=20

......which basically means that the answer is yes, definitely, but we =
don't want our media colleagues who are using this issue as grist for =
the Democratic party political agenda to look like complete and total =
dumbasses and we don't want to stir the pot by exposing the leftists and =
their hypocrital political shills whose quasi treasonous political =
posturing has given aid, comfort and inspiration to the enemy, =
encouraging them to fight on and has therefore caused the unnecessary =
deaths of thousands of American soldiers and Iraqi civillians so we =
won't include the city that would prove it beyond a shadow of any doubt =
at all.

......SHIT!!!........where's my coffee????
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe I shouldn't have read this so =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of course there is the usual =
weaselling, as=20
follows:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>The city of Baghdad, for a variety =
of reasons,=20
was excluded from the report. The authors contend that looking at the =
outside=20
provinces, where 65 percent of insurgent attacks take place, is a better =
way to=20
understand the effect they have discovered. Other population centers =
like Mosul,=20
Basra, Kirkuk, and Najaf were included in the study. </EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.....which basically means that the =
answer is=20
<STRONG>yes,</STRONG> <STRONG>definitely</STRONG>, but we don't want our =
media=20
colleagues who are using this issue as grist for the Democratic=20
party&nbsp;political agenda to look like complete and total dumbasses =
and we=20
don't want to stir the pot by exposing the leftists and their hypocrital =

political shills whose quasi treasonous political posturing has given =
aid,=20
comfort and inspiration to the enemy, encouraging them to fight on and =
has=20
therefore caused the unnecessary deaths of thousands of American =
soldiers and=20
Iraqi civillians so we won't include the city that would prove it beyond =
a=20
shadow of any doubt at all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.....SHIT!!!........where's my =
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Re: The press and thre war [message #96810 is a reply to message #96807] Fri, 14 March 2008 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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what emboldened them before?



On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:28:30 -0600, "Mr. Simplicity" <noway@jose.net>
wrote:

>Maybe I shouldn't have read this so early in the morning.......
>
> http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/iraq/2008/03/12/are-iraq i-insurgents-emboldened-by-antiwar-reporting.html
>
>of course there is the usual weaselling, as follows:
>
>The city of Baghdad, for a variety of reasons, was excluded from the report. The authors contend that looking at the outside provinces, where 65 percent of insurgent attacks take place, is a better way to understand the effect they have discovered. Other population centers like Mosul, Basra, Kirkuk, and Najaf were included in the study.
>
>.....which basically means that the answer is yes, definitely, but we don't want our media colleagues who are using this issue as grist for the Democratic party political agenda to look like complete and total dumbasses and we don't want to stir the pot by exposing the leftists and their hypocrital political shills whose quasi treasonous political posturing has given aid, comfort and inspiration to the enemy, encouraging them to fight on and has therefore caused the unnecessary deaths of thousands of American soldiers and Iraqi civillians so we won't include the city that would prove it beyond a shadow of any doubt at all.
>
>.....SHIT!!!........where's my coffee????
Re: The press and thre war [message #96813 is a reply to message #96807] Fri, 14 March 2008 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
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Is this yet another reason to vote for Ron Paul ? :)=20

-Carl=20

"Mr. Simplicity" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message =
news:47da8e98$1@linux...
Maybe I shouldn't have read this so early in the morning.......

=
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/iraq/2008/03/12/are-iraq i-insurgents-=
emboldened-by-antiwar-reporting.html

of course there is the usual weaselling, as follows:

The city of Baghdad, for a variety of reasons, was excluded from the =
report. The authors contend that looking at the outside provinces, where =
65 percent of insurgent attacks take place, is a better way to =
understand the effect they have discovered. Other population centers =
like Mosul, Basra, Kirkuk, and Najaf were included in the study.=20

.....which basically means that the answer is yes, definitely, but we =
don't want our media colleagues who are using this issue as grist for =
the Democratic party political agenda to look like complete and total =
dumbasses and we don't want to stir the pot by exposing the leftists and =
their hypocrital political shills whose quasi treasonous political =
posturing has given aid, comfort and inspiration to the enemy, =
encouraging them to fight on and has therefore caused the unnecessary =
deaths of thousands of American soldiers and Iraqi civillians so we =
won't include the city that would prove it beyond a shadow of any doubt =
at all.

.....SHIT!!!........where's my coffee????
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is this yet another reason to vote for =
Ron Paul ?=20
:) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-Carl </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Mr. Simplicity" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:noway@jose.net">noway@jose.net</A>&gt; wrote in message =
<A=20
href=3D"news:47da8e98$1@linux">news:47da8e98$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe I shouldn't have read this so =
early in the=20
morning.......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/iraq/2008/03/12/are-iraq i-ins=
urgents-emboldened-by-antiwar-reporting.html"><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/iraq/2008/03/12/are-iraq i-in=
surgents-emboldened-by-antiwar-reporting.html</FONT></A></DIV >
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of course there is the usual =
weaselling, as=20
follows:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>The city of Baghdad, for a =
variety of=20
reasons, was excluded from the report. The authors contend that =
looking at the=20
outside provinces, where 65 percent of insurgent attacks take place, =
is a=20
better way to understand the effect they have discovered. Other =
population=20
centers like Mosul, Basra, Kirkuk, and Najaf were included in the =
study.=20
</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.....which basically means that the =
answer is=20
<STRONG>yes,</STRONG> <STRONG>definitely</STRONG>, but we don't want =
our media=20
colleagues who are using this issue as grist for the Democratic=20
party&nbsp;political agenda to look like complete and total dumbasses =
and we=20
don't want to stir the pot by exposing the leftists and their =
hypocrital=20
political shills whose quasi treasonous political posturing has given =
aid,=20
comfort and inspiration to the enemy, encouraging them to fight on and =
has=20
therefore caused the unnecessary deaths of thousands of American =
soldiers and=20
Iraqi civillians so we won't include the city that would prove it =
beyond a=20
shadow of any doubt at all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.....SHIT!!!........where's my =
coffee????<!-- / message --><!-- sig =
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Re: The press and thre war [message #96814 is a reply to message #96810] Fri, 14 March 2008 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [5] is currently offline  Deej [5]   FRANCE
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Clinton's uberwussiness!
:O)

"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u44lt315avuae4iftvg2ine3vrtujef36r@4ax.com...
> what emboldened them before?
>
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:28:30 -0600, "Mr. Simplicity" <noway@jose.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Maybe I shouldn't have read this so early in the morning.......
>>
>> http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/iraq/2008/03/12/are-iraq i-insurgents-emboldened-by-antiwar-reporting.html
>>
>>of course there is the usual weaselling, as follows:
>>
>>The city of Baghdad, for a variety of reasons, was excluded from the
>>report. The authors contend that looking at the outside provinces, where
>>65 percent of insurgent attacks take place, is a better way to understand
>>the effect they have discovered. Other population centers like Mosul,
>>Basra, Kirkuk, and Najaf were included in the study.
>>
>>.....which basically means that the answer is yes, definitely, but we
>>don't want our media colleagues who are using this issue as grist for the
>>Democratic party political agenda to look like complete and total
>>dumbasses and we don't want to stir the pot by exposing the leftists and
>>their hypocrital political shills whose quasi treasonous political
>>posturing has given aid, comfort and inspiration to the enemy, encouraging
>>them to fight on and has therefore caused the unnecessary deaths of
>>thousands of American soldiers and Iraqi civillians so we won't include
>>the city that would prove it beyond a shadow of any doubt at all.
>>
>>.....SHIT!!!........where's my coffee????
>
Re: The press and thre war [message #96822 is a reply to message #96807] Sat, 15 March 2008 07:04 Go to previous message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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Just for a bit of color, I'm overseas now and I have yet to find a SINGLE
person who does not consider the Iraq war both morally and politically suicidal.
I'm sure there are exceptions but giving it a wild guess I'd say it's 90/10
against, or at least in that neighborhood.

I've been vocally antiwar on Iraq since Colin Powell was pushing crocked
data at the UN, and I don't plan on changing that.

Just to add more fuel to the fire, I was talking to an Israeli friend of
mine recently and asked him what he thought the life expectancy of Robert
Novak would be if he outed a Mossad agent working the antiproliferation beat.
He thought for a minute and said 'months.' I'd say there's enough moral baggage
to go around.

TCB

"Mr. Simplicity" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>
>
>Maybe I shouldn't have read this so early in the morning.......
>
> http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/iraq/2008/03/12/are-iraq i-insurgents-=
>emboldened-by-antiwar-reporting.html
>
>of course there is the usual weaselling, as follows:
>
>The city of Baghdad, for a variety of reasons, was excluded from the =
>report. The authors contend that looking at the outside provinces, where
=
>65 percent of insurgent attacks take place, is a better way to =
>understand the effect they have discovered. Other population centers =
>like Mosul, Basra, Kirkuk, and Najaf were included in the study.=20
>
>.....which basically means that the answer is yes, definitely, but we =
>don't want our media colleagues who are using this issue as grist for =
>the Democratic party political agenda to look like complete and total =
>dumbasses and we don't want to stir the pot by exposing the leftists and
=
>their hypocrital political shills whose quasi treasonous political =
>posturing has given aid, comfort and inspiration to the enemy, =
>encouraging them to fight on and has therefore caused the unnecessary =
>deaths of thousands of American soldiers and Iraqi civillians so we =
>won't include the city that would prove it beyond a shadow of any doubt
=
>at all.
>
>.....SHIT!!!........where's my coffee????
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe I shouldn't have read this so =
>early in the=20
>morning.......</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><A=20
>href=3D" http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/iraq/2008/03/12/are-iraq i-ins=
>urgents-emboldened-by-antiwar-reporting.html"><FONT=20
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2> http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/iraq/2008/03/12/are-iraq i-in=
>surgents-emboldened-by-antiwar-reporting.html</FONT></A></DIV >
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of course there is the usual =
>weaselling, as=20
>follows:</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>The city of Baghdad, for a variety
=
>of reasons,=20
>was excluded from the report. The authors contend that looking at the =
>outside=20
>provinces, where 65 percent of insurgent attacks take place, is a better
=
>way to=20
>understand the effect they have discovered. Other population centers =
>like Mosul,=20
>Basra, Kirkuk, and Najaf were included in the study. </EM></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.....which basically means that the =
>answer is=20
><STRONG>yes,</STRONG> <STRONG>definitely</STRONG>, but we don't want our
=
>media=20
>colleagues who are using this issue as grist for the Democratic=20
>party political agenda to look like complete and total dumbasses =
>and we=20
>don't want to stir the pot by exposing the leftists and their hypocrital
=
>
>political shills whose quasi treasonous political posturing has given =
>aid,=20
>comfort and inspiration to the enemy, encouraging them to fight on and =
>has=20
>therefore caused the unnecessary deaths of thousands of American =
>soldiers and=20
>Iraqi civillians so we won't include the city that would prove it beyond
=
>a=20
>shadow of any doubt at all.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.....SHIT!!!........where's my =
>coffee????<!-- / message --><!-- sig --></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>
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