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dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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Okay, went to one day of the NAMM show and said
bugger it, and grabbed the family and went to Havasu.

Man, I had actually forgotten what nice air smells like...

I have to get out of SoCal more often. This is cool.

Going to see London Bridge and the river tomorrow.
The Colorado river is one of the purest, beautiful,
almost elemental things on earth.

Then on Monday we head to Quartzite for the gem and
mineral show. Need some quartz to go on top of the
studio monitors.

Take a break. Get away. I'm glad I did.

NAMM-schmamm One day was enough.

Great show, saw some old friends (man I miss running into
SSC at shows!) but even on Friday there were too damn
many people there. Business-wise a good show for the
vendors, said everyone I spoke to.

Big news? umm yeah... Gibson and TC are doing a merger.

That's right Gibson guitar, as in Henry's company, and
the Danish outfit TC are merging.

This cannot be good.

DC
Re: Greetings from AZ [message #94947 is a reply to message #94945] Sun, 20 January 2008 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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Sounds like a blast!

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Okay, went to one day of the NAMM show and said
>bugger it, and grabbed the family and went to Havasu.
>
>Man, I had actually forgotten what nice air smells like...
>
>I have to get out of SoCal more often. This is cool.
>
>Going to see London Bridge and the river tomorrow.
>The Colorado river is one of the purest, beautiful,
>almost elemental things on earth.
>
>Then on Monday we head to Quartzite for the gem and
>mineral show. Need some quartz to go on top of the
>studio monitors.
>
>Take a break. Get away. I'm glad I did.
>
>NAMM-schmamm One day was enough.
>
>Great show, saw some old friends (man I miss running into
>SSC at shows!) but even on Friday there were too damn
>many people there. Business-wise a good show for the
>vendors, said everyone I spoke to.
>
>Big news? umm yeah... Gibson and TC are doing a merger.
>
>That's right Gibson guitar, as in Henry's company, and
>the Danish outfit TC are merging.
>
>This cannot be good.
>
>DC
>
Re: Greetings from AZ [message #94950 is a reply to message #94945] Sun, 20 January 2008 06:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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That sounds like a great trip. I've never seen that bridge. The idea
makes me smile. We Americans are funny people. Definitely a must-see if
you are in the area.

I don't see why there should be a problem with those 2 companies
merging. I'm sure it is motivated by Gibson's desire to move in more
digital/modern directions, which does not at all bother me. If they get
their wireless technology working well and affordable it would be a real
time saver for musicians and sound people who do frequent hit and run
set ups.

Personally I love what digital technology has done for the guitar. I use
modern digital modeling and effects technology powered by good old
fashioned vacuum tubes and beefy power transformers every day in my
guitar rig and it works beautifully, giving me the best of both worlds:
versatility and great sound.

DC wrote:
> Okay, went to one day of the NAMM show and said
> bugger it, and grabbed the family and went to Havasu.
>
> Man, I had actually forgotten what nice air smells like...
>
> I have to get out of SoCal more often. This is cool.
>
> Going to see London Bridge and the river tomorrow.
> The Colorado river is one of the purest, beautiful,
> almost elemental things on earth.
>
> Then on Monday we head to Quartzite for the gem and
> mineral show. Need some quartz to go on top of the
> studio monitors.
>
> Take a break. Get away. I'm glad I did.
>
> NAMM-schmamm One day was enough.
>
> Great show, saw some old friends (man I miss running into
> SSC at shows!) but even on Friday there were too damn
> many people there. Business-wise a good show for the
> vendors, said everyone I spoke to.
>
> Big news? umm yeah... Gibson and TC are doing a merger.
>
> That's right Gibson guitar, as in Henry's company, and
> the Danish outfit TC are merging.
>
> This cannot be good.
>
> DC
>
Re: Greetings from AZ [message #94956 is a reply to message #94950] Sun, 20 January 2008 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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Henry J. from Gibson is a notorious bozo.

The concern from my end is that he doesn't "brand manage"
TC's various companies into the can. We still don't know
who is really running things, so there is hope, but the big
question is who will influence whom.

We're off to the river!

DC


Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>That sounds like a great trip. I've never seen that bridge. The idea
>makes me smile. We Americans are funny people. Definitely a must-see if

>you are in the area.
>
>I don't see why there should be a problem with those 2 companies
>merging. I'm sure it is motivated by Gibson's desire to move in more
>digital/modern directions, which does not at all bother me. If they get

>their wireless technology working well and affordable it would be a real

>time saver for musicians and sound people who do frequent hit and run
>set ups.
>
>Personally I love what digital technology has done for the guitar. I use

>modern digital modeling and effects technology powered by good old
>fashioned vacuum tubes and beefy power transformers every day in my
>guitar rig and it works beautifully, giving me the best of both worlds:

>versatility and great sound.
>
>DC wrote:
>> Okay, went to one day of the NAMM show and said
>> bugger it, and grabbed the family and went to Havasu.
>>
>> Man, I had actually forgotten what nice air smells like...
>>
>> I have to get out of SoCal more often. This is cool.
>>
>> Going to see London Bridge and the river tomorrow.
>> The Colorado river is one of the purest, beautiful,
>> almost elemental things on earth.
>>
>> Then on Monday we head to Quartzite for the gem and
>> mineral show. Need some quartz to go on top of the
>> studio monitors.
>>
>> Take a break. Get away. I'm glad I did.
>>
>> NAMM-schmamm One day was enough.
>>
>> Great show, saw some old friends (man I miss running into
>> SSC at shows!) but even on Friday there were too damn
>> many people there. Business-wise a good show for the
>> vendors, said everyone I spoke to.
>>
>> Big news? umm yeah... Gibson and TC are doing a merger.
>>
>> That's right Gibson guitar, as in Henry's company, and
>> the Danish outfit TC are merging.
>>
>> This cannot be good.
>>
>> DC
>>
Re: Greetings from AZ [message #94957 is a reply to message #94956] Sun, 20 January 2008 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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Ah... I see your point.

DC wrote:
> Henry J. from Gibson is a notorious bozo.
>
> The concern from my end is that he doesn't "brand manage"
> TC's various companies into the can. We still don't know
> who is really running things, so there is hope, but the big
> question is who will influence whom.
>
> We're off to the river!
>
> DC
>
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> That sounds like a great trip. I've never seen that bridge. The idea
>> makes me smile. We Americans are funny people. Definitely a must-see if
>
>> you are in the area.
>>
>> I don't see why there should be a problem with those 2 companies
>> merging. I'm sure it is motivated by Gibson's desire to move in more
>> digital/modern directions, which does not at all bother me. If they get
>
>> their wireless technology working well and affordable it would be a real
>
>> time saver for musicians and sound people who do frequent hit and run
>> set ups.
>>
>> Personally I love what digital technology has done for the guitar. I use
>
>> modern digital modeling and effects technology powered by good old
>> fashioned vacuum tubes and beefy power transformers every day in my
>> guitar rig and it works beautifully, giving me the best of both worlds:
>
>> versatility and great sound.
>>
>> DC wrote:
>>> Okay, went to one day of the NAMM show and said
>>> bugger it, and grabbed the family and went to Havasu.
>>>
>>> Man, I had actually forgotten what nice air smells like...
>>>
>>> I have to get out of SoCal more often. This is cool.
>>>
>>> Going to see London Bridge and the river tomorrow.
>>> The Colorado river is one of the purest, beautiful,
>>> almost elemental things on earth.
>>>
>>> Then on Monday we head to Quartzite for the gem and
>>> mineral show. Need some quartz to go on top of the
>>> studio monitors.
>>>
>>> Take a break. Get away. I'm glad I did.
>>>
>>> NAMM-schmamm One day was enough.
>>>
>>> Great show, saw some old friends (man I miss running into
>>> SSC at shows!) but even on Friday there were too damn
>>> many people there. Business-wise a good show for the
>>> vendors, said everyone I spoke to.
>>>
>>> Big news? umm yeah... Gibson and TC are doing a merger.
>>>
>>> That's right Gibson guitar, as in Henry's company, and
>>> the Danish outfit TC are merging.
>>>
>>> This cannot be good.
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>
Re: Greetings from AZ [message #94959 is a reply to message #94957] Sun, 20 January 2008 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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I read about Roland taking a majority of Cakewalk - no surprised there, but
no Gibson and TC. I had high hopes for TC's continued development in the
digital audio market. Surely Gibson will kill their products off with inane
detours into left field.

Dedric

On 1/20/08 11:47 AM, in article 47939a76@linux, "Bill L"
<bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:

> Ah... I see your point.
>
> DC wrote:
>> Henry J. from Gibson is a notorious bozo.
>>
>> The concern from my end is that he doesn't "brand manage"
>> TC's various companies into the can. We still don't know
>> who is really running things, so there is hope, but the big
>> question is who will influence whom.
>>
>> We're off to the river!
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>> That sounds like a great trip. I've never seen that bridge. The idea
>>> makes me smile. We Americans are funny people. Definitely a must-see if
>>
>>> you are in the area.
>>>
>>> I don't see why there should be a problem with those 2 companies
>>> merging. I'm sure it is motivated by Gibson's desire to move in more
>>> digital/modern directions, which does not at all bother me. If they get
>>
>>> their wireless technology working well and affordable it would be a real
>>
>>> time saver for musicians and sound people who do frequent hit and run
>>> set ups.
>>>
>>> Personally I love what digital technology has done for the guitar. I use
>>
>>> modern digital modeling and effects technology powered by good old
>>> fashioned vacuum tubes and beefy power transformers every day in my
>>> guitar rig and it works beautifully, giving me the best of both worlds:
>>
>>> versatility and great sound.
>>>
>>> DC wrote:
>>>> Okay, went to one day of the NAMM show and said
>>>> bugger it, and grabbed the family and went to Havasu.
>>>>
>>>> Man, I had actually forgotten what nice air smells like...
>>>>
>>>> I have to get out of SoCal more often. This is cool.
>>>>
>>>> Going to see London Bridge and the river tomorrow.
>>>> The Colorado river is one of the purest, beautiful,
>>>> almost elemental things on earth.
>>>>
>>>> Then on Monday we head to Quartzite for the gem and
>>>> mineral show. Need some quartz to go on top of the
>>>> studio monitors.
>>>>
>>>> Take a break. Get away. I'm glad I did.
>>>>
>>>> NAMM-schmamm One day was enough.
>>>>
>>>> Great show, saw some old friends (man I miss running into
>>>> SSC at shows!) but even on Friday there were too damn
>>>> many people there. Business-wise a good show for the
>>>> vendors, said everyone I spoke to.
>>>>
>>>> Big news? umm yeah... Gibson and TC are doing a merger.
>>>>
>>>> That's right Gibson guitar, as in Henry's company, and
>>>> the Danish outfit TC are merging.
>>>>
>>>> This cannot be good.
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>>
>>
Re: Greetings from AZ [message #94960 is a reply to message #94945] Sun, 20 January 2008 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Okay, went to one day of the NAMM show and said
>bugger it, and grabbed the family and went to Havasu.
>
>Man, I had actually forgotten what nice air smells like...
>
>I have to get out of SoCal more often. This is cool.
>
>Going to see London Bridge and the river tomorrow.
>The Colorado river is one of the purest, beautiful,
>almost elemental things on earth.
>
>Then on Monday we head to Quartzite for the gem and
>mineral show. Need some quartz to go on top of the
>studio monitors.
>
>Take a break. Get away. I'm glad I did.
>
>NAMM-schmamm One day was enough.
>
>Great show, saw some old friends (man I miss running into
>SSC at shows!) but even on Friday there were too damn
>many people there. Business-wise a good show for the
>vendors, said everyone I spoke to.
>
>Big news? umm yeah... Gibson and TC are doing a merger.
>
>That's right Gibson guitar, as in Henry's company, and
>the Danish outfit TC are merging.
>
>This cannot be good.
>
>DC
>

That is not just bad news, that is vary bad news! You would think by now
these companies would stay the hell away from Gibson. Dumb move!
Re: Greetings from AZ [message #94963 is a reply to message #94959] Sun, 20 January 2008 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DC is currently offline  DC
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A lot of folks are saying "this could be a good thing, look
at the good influence and product TC could bring to
Gibson"

But it sure didn't work that way with Chrysler and
Daimler did it?

Seems like bad leaders and a problematic corporate
culture are never solved by mergers. A takeover and
a total house cleaning of execs? Perhaps, but I don't
remember a merger that fixed a problem leadership or
culture.

Saw Parker Dam today. Just gorgeous and since it is off
the beaten path, almost deserted. Well, except for the
two armed guards and the netting all over the lake side
of the dam so ghouls cannot drop a demo charge down
against the dam underwater where the force will be
directed into the dam by the water...

sh*t

Oh, and you can't walk across the dam anymore, and
there are serious concrete obstacles to negotiate around to
keep out the truck bombs.


DC



Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I read about Roland taking a majority of Cakewalk - no surprised there,
but
>no Gibson and TC. I had high hopes for TC's continued development in the
>digital audio market. Surely Gibson will kill their products off with inane
>detours into left field.
>
>Dedric
>
>On 1/20/08 11:47 AM, in article 47939a76@linux, "Bill L"
><bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>
>> Ah... I see your point.
>>
>> DC wrote:
>>> Henry J. from Gibson is a notorious bozo.
>>>
>>> The concern from my end is that he doesn't "brand manage"
>>> TC's various companies into the can. We still don't know
>>> who is really running things, so there is hope, but the big
>>> question is who will influence whom.
>>>
>>> We're off to the river!
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>> That sounds like a great trip. I've never seen that bridge. The idea
>>>> makes me smile. We Americans are funny people. Definitely a must-see
if
>>>
>>>> you are in the area.
>>>>
>>>> I don't see why there should be a problem with those 2 companies
>>>> merging. I'm sure it is motivated by Gibson's desire to move in more
>>>> digital/modern directions, which does not at all bother me. If they
get
>>>
>>>> their wireless technology working well and affordable it would be a
real
>>>
>>>> time saver for musicians and sound people who do frequent hit and run
>>>> set ups.
>>>>
>>>> Personally I love what digital technology has done for the guitar. I
use
>>>
>>>> modern digital modeling and effects technology powered by good old
>>>> fashioned vacuum tubes and beefy power transformers every day in my
>>>> guitar rig and it works beautifully, giving me the best of both worlds:
>>>
>>>> versatility and great sound.
>>>>
>>>> DC wrote:
>>>>> Okay, went to one day of the NAMM show and said
>>>>> bugger it, and grabbed the family and went to Havasu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Man, I had actually forgotten what nice air smells like...
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to get out of SoCal more often. This is cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Going to see London Bridge and the river tomorrow.
>>>>> The Colorado river is one of the purest, beautiful,
>>>>> almost elemental things on earth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then on Monday we head to Quartzite for the gem and
>>>>> mineral show. Need some quartz to go on top of the
>>>>> studio monitors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Take a break. Get away. I'm glad I did.
>>>>>
>>>>> NAMM-schmamm One day was enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Great show, saw some old friends (man I miss running into
>>>>> SSC at shows!) but even on Friday there were too damn
>>>>> many people there. Business-wise a good show for the
>>>>> vendors, said everyone I spoke to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Big news? umm yeah... Gibson and TC are doing a merger.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's right Gibson guitar, as in Henry's company, and
>>>>> the Danish outfit TC are merging.
>>>>>
>>>>> This cannot be good.
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: Greetings from AZ [message #94985 is a reply to message #94963] Mon, 21 January 2008 19:43 Go to previous message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Back home again!

It's nice, except for the crap that passes for air 'round here.

Wanted to share the secret for finding great food in a
strange town:

Pull off, go to the city center, ask a cop.

A Sargent, no less, directed us to some of the best vintage-
style mexican (you know the way they used to make it
before it became trendy?) I have EVER eaten.

It's in Indio. If you are ever making that damnable trip on
the 10 from Quartzsite to El Lay, stop in Indio and find
Rincon Norteno restaurant.

Oh-boy... Good stuff.

DC
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