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| Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC [message #101394 is a reply to message #101393] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 15:40   |
TC
Messages: 327
Registered: September 2005
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You would use a separate midi interface for MTC if the lightbridge has
no midi i/o.
Any midi interface should work with paris for MTC, I've used midisport
usb uno's and midiman interfaces, and other soundcard midi ports with
Paris over the years. You are just connecting midi cables to the midi
interfaces on each system for the MTC sync side of things.
With MTC, you are basically locking the position/transport of one daw so
it follows the positioning of the master daw, as David said.
The midi time code will sync the positioning/timelines, the wordclock
will sync the digital audio signals so you don't get clicks/pops etc.
with multiple digital devices.
Cheers,
TC
The Dakota should work also.
Don Nafe wrote:
> Okay now I'm confused...where's the midi out coming from
>
> remember this lightbridge is supposed to replace the Dakota card which does
> have midi in and out.
>
> Are you suggesting the Dakota and Lightbridge can coexist on the same
> computer and play nice together?
>
> As I said this sync stuff is a mind fuck to me
>
>
> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c667@linux...
>> See below:
>>
>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>> If you remember this sync business has me completely befuddled so correct
>>> me if I'm wrong
>>>
>>> are you saying that MTC will be passed along the BNC cable?
>> No, separate cables... BNC for word clock sync, and a MIDI cable to
>> transmit MTC for "position" information.
>>
>>> I have Cubase2 / Nuendo2 / Reaper and Saw Studio on my second rig and
>>> they work flawlessly with my Dakota Card but but I'm trying to integrate
>>> PT into my setup but it looks like hoop jumping 101 will be on the agenda
>>> if I decide to proceed
>> It won't be as bad as you think... just remember that there always has to
>> be ONE clock master for everything. Do you have a separate word clock
>> generator? You may want to invest in one... it will simplify things
>> greatly.
>>
>> David.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c060@linux...
>>>> Paris should recognize any MIDI interface that is hooked up to the
>>>> computer. The word clock out from Paris could be sent to the BNC word
>>>> in on the Lightbridge to facilitate clocking. Paris will generate MTC
>>>> from the timeline I believe (it's been a while) that PT could follow.
>>>>
>>>> Getting the M-Audio interface would also allow you to integrate Cubase
>>>> at some point (more useful than PT IMHO) which would get you mixing with
>>>> full PDC.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>> Unfortunately I'm in the middle of renovations and can't access Paris -
>>>>> hell
>>>>> I have no idea where I put the damn rig anymore
>>>>>
>>>>> hehehehe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now for reasons best left untouched I am considering adding PT to my
>>>>> arsenal
>>>>> of goodies and of course I would host it on my second computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I can't afford an HD rig, my options are limited to PT M-Powered,
>>>>> using the M-Audio Profire Lightbridge to fly audio between the
>>>>> computers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now as Kerry rightly pointed out there is no ADAT sync port on this
>>>>> puppy
>>>>> and according to M-Audio tech support Pro Tools M-Powered will
>>>>> recognise MTC
>>>>> for it's transport control.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now for the dumb Q
>>>>>
>>>>> Paris is supposably able to generate MTC but where does it output as
>>>>> there are no midi ports in Paris?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bottom line here is if I have to jump through too many hoops to
>>>>> integrate PT into my setup well Digi can go "F" themselves
>
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| Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC [message #101395 is a reply to message #101394] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 15:49 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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The lightbridge does have midi in/out as does my Dakota card which generates
MTC internally from the ADAT sync send from Paris, The lightbridge doesn't
(as far as I know)
So now do I have to purchase something like a midisport to interface
between Paris and the Lightbridge?
"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
news:4935cb38$1@linux...
> You would use a separate midi interface for MTC if the lightbridge has no
> midi i/o.
> Any midi interface should work with paris for MTC, I've used midisport usb
> uno's and midiman interfaces, and other soundcard midi ports with Paris
> over the years. You are just connecting midi cables to the midi interfaces
> on each system for the MTC sync side of things.
>
> With MTC, you are basically locking the position/transport of one daw so
> it follows the positioning of the master daw, as David said.
>
> The midi time code will sync the positioning/timelines, the wordclock will
> sync the digital audio signals so you don't get clicks/pops etc. with
> multiple digital devices.
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC
>
>
> The Dakota should work also.
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>> Okay now I'm confused...where's the midi out coming from
>>
>> remember this lightbridge is supposed to replace the Dakota card which
>> does have midi in and out.
>>
>> Are you suggesting the Dakota and Lightbridge can coexist on the same
>> computer and play nice together?
>>
>> As I said this sync stuff is a mind fuck to me
>>
>>
>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c667@linux...
>>> See below:
>>>
>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>> If you remember this sync business has me completely befuddled so
>>>> correct me if I'm wrong
>>>>
>>>> are you saying that MTC will be passed along the BNC cable?
>>> No, separate cables... BNC for word clock sync, and a MIDI cable to
>>> transmit MTC for "position" information.
>>>
>>>> I have Cubase2 / Nuendo2 / Reaper and Saw Studio on my second rig and
>>>> they work flawlessly with my Dakota Card but but I'm trying to
>>>> integrate PT into my setup but it looks like hoop jumping 101 will be
>>>> on the agenda if I decide to proceed
>>> It won't be as bad as you think... just remember that there always has
>>> to be ONE clock master for everything. Do you have a separate word
>>> clock generator? You may want to invest in one... it will simplify
>>> things greatly.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c060@linux...
>>>>> Paris should recognize any MIDI interface that is hooked up to the
>>>>> computer. The word clock out from Paris could be sent to the BNC word
>>>>> in on the Lightbridge to facilitate clocking. Paris will generate MTC
>>>>> from the timeline I believe (it's been a while) that PT could follow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting the M-Audio interface would also allow you to integrate Cubase
>>>>> at some point (more useful than PT IMHO) which would get you mixing
>>>>> with full PDC.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>>> Unfortunately I'm in the middle of renovations and can't access
>>>>>> Paris - hell
>>>>>> I have no idea where I put the damn rig anymore
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hehehehe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now for reasons best left untouched I am considering adding PT to my
>>>>>> arsenal
>>>>>> of goodies and of course I would host it on my second computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I can't afford an HD rig, my options are limited to PT M-Powered,
>>>>>> using the M-Audio Profire Lightbridge to fly audio between the
>>>>>> computers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now as Kerry rightly pointed out there is no ADAT sync port on this
>>>>>> puppy
>>>>>> and according to M-Audio tech support Pro Tools M-Powered will
>>>>>> recognise MTC
>>>>>> for it's transport control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now for the dumb Q
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paris is supposably able to generate MTC but where does it output as
>>>>>> there are no midi ports in Paris?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line here is if I have to jump through too many hoops to
>>>>>> integrate PT into my setup well Digi can go "F" themselves
>>
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| Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC [message #101397 is a reply to message #101394] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 15:56 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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The Lightbridge has MIDI I/O on the supplied breakout cable.
You would get a MIDI interface for the Paris computer and connect from
the MIDI OUT on the Paris computer to the MIDI IN on the Lightbridge.
PT would see the MTC arriving at the Lightbridge and lock to it for
"position" (via Midi Time Code). The word clock is required to keep all
SAMPLES aligned so you don't get clicks and pops during transfer.
Once you have a MIDI interface connected to Paris, you can set the ports
in the setup menu located in the project window.
PT will only see the M-Audio interface, where as Cubase et-all will see
all the interfaces... you simply tell Cubase which ASIO driver to use
and it will use the appropriate interface.
David.
TC wrote:
> You would use a separate midi interface for MTC if the lightbridge has
> no midi i/o.
>
> Any midi interface should work with paris for MTC, I've used midisport
> usb uno's and midiman interfaces, and other soundcard midi ports with
> Paris over the years. You are just connecting midi cables to the midi
> interfaces on each system for the MTC sync side of things.
>
> With MTC, you are basically locking the position/transport of one daw so
> it follows the positioning of the master daw, as David said.
>
> The midi time code will sync the positioning/timelines, the wordclock
> will sync the digital audio signals so you don't get clicks/pops etc.
> with multiple digital devices.
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC
>
>
> The Dakota should work also.
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>> Okay now I'm confused...where's the midi out coming from
>>
>> remember this lightbridge is supposed to replace the Dakota card which
>> does have midi in and out.
>>
>> Are you suggesting the Dakota and Lightbridge can coexist on the same
>> computer and play nice together?
>>
>> As I said this sync stuff is a mind fuck to me
>>
>>
>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c667@linux...
>>> See below:
>>>
>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>> If you remember this sync business has me completely befuddled so
>>>> correct me if I'm wrong
>>>>
>>>> are you saying that MTC will be passed along the BNC cable?
>>> No, separate cables... BNC for word clock sync, and a MIDI cable to
>>> transmit MTC for "position" information.
>>>
>>>> I have Cubase2 / Nuendo2 / Reaper and Saw Studio on my second rig
>>>> and they work flawlessly with my Dakota Card but but I'm trying to
>>>> integrate PT into my setup but it looks like hoop jumping 101 will
>>>> be on the agenda if I decide to proceed
>>> It won't be as bad as you think... just remember that there always
>>> has to be ONE clock master for everything. Do you have a separate
>>> word clock generator? You may want to invest in one... it will
>>> simplify things greatly.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c060@linux...
>>>>> Paris should recognize any MIDI interface that is hooked up to the
>>>>> computer. The word clock out from Paris could be sent to the BNC
>>>>> word in on the Lightbridge to facilitate clocking. Paris will
>>>>> generate MTC from the timeline I believe (it's been a while) that
>>>>> PT could follow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting the M-Audio interface would also allow you to integrate
>>>>> Cubase at some point (more useful than PT IMHO) which would get you
>>>>> mixing with full PDC.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>>> Unfortunately I'm in the middle of renovations and can't access
>>>>>> Paris - hell
>>>>>> I have no idea where I put the damn rig anymore
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hehehehe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now for reasons best left untouched I am considering adding PT to
>>>>>> my arsenal
>>>>>> of goodies and of course I would host it on my second computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I can't afford an HD rig, my options are limited to PT M-Powered,
>>>>>> using the M-Audio Profire Lightbridge to fly audio between the
>>>>>> computers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now as Kerry rightly pointed out there is no ADAT sync port on
>>>>>> this puppy
>>>>>> and according to M-Audio tech support Pro Tools M-Powered will
>>>>>> recognise MTC
>>>>>> for it's transport control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now for the dumb Q
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paris is supposably able to generate MTC but where does it output
>>>>>> as there are no midi ports in Paris?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line here is if I have to jump through too many hoops to
>>>>>> integrate PT into my setup well Digi can go "F" themselves
>>
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| Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC [message #101398 is a reply to message #101397] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 16:01 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935cf05$1@linux...
> The Lightbridge has MIDI I/O on the supplied breakout cable.
>
> You would get a MIDI interface for the Paris computer and connect from the
> MIDI OUT on the Paris computer to the MIDI IN on the Lightbridge. PT would
> see the MTC arriving at the Lightbridge and lock to it for "position" (via
> Midi Time Code). The word clock is required to keep all SAMPLES aligned
> so you don't get clicks and pops during transfer.
>
> Once you have a MIDI interface connected to Paris, you can set the ports
> in the setup menu located in the project window.
>
> PT will only see the M-Audio interface, where as Cubase et-all will see
> all the interfaces... you simply tell Cubase which ASIO driver to use and
> it will use the appropriate interface.
>
> David.
So to clarify I'll need to purchase a MTC interface and a wordclock
generator as well as the lightbridge and PT
>
> TC wrote:
>> You would use a separate midi interface for MTC if the lightbridge has no
>> midi i/o.
>>
>> Any midi interface should work with paris for MTC, I've used midisport
>> usb uno's and midiman interfaces, and other soundcard midi ports with
>> Paris over the years. You are just connecting midi cables to the midi
>> interfaces on each system for the MTC sync side of things.
>>
>> With MTC, you are basically locking the position/transport of one daw so
>> it follows the positioning of the master daw, as David said.
>>
>> The midi time code will sync the positioning/timelines, the wordclock
>> will sync the digital audio signals so you don't get clicks/pops etc.
>> with multiple digital devices.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> TC
>>
>>
>> The Dakota should work also.
>>
>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>> Okay now I'm confused...where's the midi out coming from
>>>
>>> remember this lightbridge is supposed to replace the Dakota card which
>>> does have midi in and out.
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting the Dakota and Lightbridge can coexist on the same
>>> computer and play nice together?
>>>
>>> As I said this sync stuff is a mind fuck to me
>>>
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c667@linux...
>>>> See below:
>>>>
>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>> If you remember this sync business has me completely befuddled so
>>>>> correct me if I'm wrong
>>>>>
>>>>> are you saying that MTC will be passed along the BNC cable?
>>>> No, separate cables... BNC for word clock sync, and a MIDI cable to
>>>> transmit MTC for "position" information.
>>>>
>>>>> I have Cubase2 / Nuendo2 / Reaper and Saw Studio on my second rig and
>>>>> they work flawlessly with my Dakota Card but but I'm trying to
>>>>> integrate PT into my setup but it looks like hoop jumping 101 will be
>>>>> on the agenda if I decide to proceed
>>>> It won't be as bad as you think... just remember that there always has
>>>> to be ONE clock master for everything. Do you have a separate word
>>>> clock generator? You may want to invest in one... it will simplify
>>>> things greatly.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c060@linux...
>>>>>> Paris should recognize any MIDI interface that is hooked up to the
>>>>>> computer. The word clock out from Paris could be sent to the BNC
>>>>>> word in on the Lightbridge to facilitate clocking. Paris will
>>>>>> generate MTC from the timeline I believe (it's been a while) that PT
>>>>>> could follow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Getting the M-Audio interface would also allow you to integrate
>>>>>> Cubase at some point (more useful than PT IMHO) which would get you
>>>>>> mixing with full PDC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>>>> Unfortunately I'm in the middle of renovations and can't access
>>>>>>> Paris - hell
>>>>>>> I have no idea where I put the damn rig anymore
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hehehehe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now for reasons best left untouched I am considering adding PT to my
>>>>>>> arsenal
>>>>>>> of goodies and of course I would host it on my second computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I can't afford an HD rig, my options are limited to PT M-Powered,
>>>>>>> using the M-Audio Profire Lightbridge to fly audio between the
>>>>>>> computers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now as Kerry rightly pointed out there is no ADAT sync port on this
>>>>>>> puppy
>>>>>>> and according to M-Audio tech support Pro Tools M-Powered will
>>>>>>> recognise MTC
>>>>>>> for it's transport control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now for the dumb Q
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paris is supposably able to generate MTC but where does it output as
>>>>>>> there are no midi ports in Paris?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom line here is if I have to jump through too many hoops to
>>>>>>> integrate PT into my setup well Digi can go "F" themselves
>>>
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| Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC [message #101400 is a reply to message #101398] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 16:04 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Aside from PT and a compatible interface (like the Lightbridge)... You
*NEED* a MIDI interface for Paris. You *SHOULD* buy a wordclock
generator to save what little hair you have left... ;-)
David.
>
> So to clarify I'll need to purchase a MTC interface and a wordclock
> generator as well as the lightbridge and PT
>
>
>
>
>> TC wrote:
>>> You would use a separate midi interface for MTC if the lightbridge has no
>>> midi i/o.
>>>
>>> Any midi interface should work with paris for MTC, I've used midisport
>>> usb uno's and midiman interfaces, and other soundcard midi ports with
>>> Paris over the years. You are just connecting midi cables to the midi
>>> interfaces on each system for the MTC sync side of things.
>>>
>>> With MTC, you are basically locking the position/transport of one daw so
>>> it follows the positioning of the master daw, as David said.
>>>
>>> The midi time code will sync the positioning/timelines, the wordclock
>>> will sync the digital audio signals so you don't get clicks/pops etc.
>>> with multiple digital devices.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> TC
>>>
>>>
>>> The Dakota should work also.
>>>
>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>> Okay now I'm confused...where's the midi out coming from
>>>>
>>>> remember this lightbridge is supposed to replace the Dakota card which
>>>> does have midi in and out.
>>>>
>>>> Are you suggesting the Dakota and Lightbridge can coexist on the same
>>>> computer and play nice together?
>>>>
>>>> As I said this sync stuff is a mind fuck to me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c667@linux...
>>>>> See below:
>>>>>
>>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>>> If you remember this sync business has me completely befuddled so
>>>>>> correct me if I'm wrong
>>>>>>
>>>>>> are you saying that MTC will be passed along the BNC cable?
>>>>> No, separate cables... BNC for word clock sync, and a MIDI cable to
>>>>> transmit MTC for "position" information.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have Cubase2 / Nuendo2 / Reaper and Saw Studio on my second rig and
>>>>>> they work flawlessly with my Dakota Card but but I'm trying to
>>>>>> integrate PT into my setup but it looks like hoop jumping 101 will be
>>>>>> on the agenda if I decide to proceed
>>>>> It won't be as bad as you think... just remember that there always has
>>>>> to be ONE clock master for everything. Do you have a separate word
>>>>> clock generator? You may want to invest in one... it will simplify
>>>>> things greatly.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c060@linux...
>>>>>>> Paris should recognize any MIDI interface that is hooked up to the
>>>>>>> computer. The word clock out from Paris could be sent to the BNC
>>>>>>> word in on the Lightbridge to facilitate clocking. Paris will
>>>>>>> generate MTC from the timeline I believe (it's been a while) that PT
>>>>>>> could follow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Getting the M-Audio interface would also allow you to integrate
>>>>>>> Cubase at some point (more useful than PT IMHO) which would get you
>>>>>>> mixing with full PDC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I'm in the middle of renovations and can't access
>>>>>>>> Paris - hell
>>>>>>>> I have no idea where I put the damn rig anymore
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hehehehe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now for reasons best left untouched I am considering adding PT to my
>>>>>>>> arsenal
>>>>>>>> of goodies and of course I would host it on my second computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I can't afford an HD rig, my options are limited to PT M-Powered,
>>>>>>>> using the M-Audio Profire Lightbridge to fly audio between the
>>>>>>>> computers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now as Kerry rightly pointed out there is no ADAT sync port on this
>>>>>>>> puppy
>>>>>>>> and according to M-Audio tech support Pro Tools M-Powered will
>>>>>>>> recognise MTC
>>>>>>>> for it's transport control.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now for the dumb Q
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paris is supposably able to generate MTC but where does it output as
>>>>>>>> there are no midi ports in Paris?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bottom line here is if I have to jump through too many hoops to
>>>>>>>> integrate PT into my setup well Digi can go "F" themselves
>
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| Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC [message #101402 is a reply to message #101400] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 16:07 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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So what's a MIDI interface cost nowadays?
and I still have my hair
for now
"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935d0df@linux...
> Aside from PT and a compatible interface (like the Lightbridge)... You
> *NEED* a MIDI interface for Paris. You *SHOULD* buy a wordclock generator
> to save what little hair you have left... ;-)
>
> David.
>
>>
>> So to clarify I'll need to purchase a MTC interface and a wordclock
>> generator as well as the lightbridge and PT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> TC wrote:
>>>> You would use a separate midi interface for MTC if the lightbridge has
>>>> no midi i/o.
>>>>
>>>> Any midi interface should work with paris for MTC, I've used midisport
>>>> usb uno's and midiman interfaces, and other soundcard midi ports with
>>>> Paris over the years. You are just connecting midi cables to the midi
>>>> interfaces on each system for the MTC sync side of things.
>>>>
>>>> With MTC, you are basically locking the position/transport of one daw
>>>> so it follows the positioning of the master daw, as David said.
>>>>
>>>> The midi time code will sync the positioning/timelines, the wordclock
>>>> will sync the digital audio signals so you don't get clicks/pops etc.
>>>> with multiple digital devices.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> TC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Dakota should work also.
>>>>
>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>> Okay now I'm confused...where's the midi out coming from
>>>>>
>>>>> remember this lightbridge is supposed to replace the Dakota card which
>>>>> does have midi in and out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you suggesting the Dakota and Lightbridge can coexist on the same
>>>>> computer and play nice together?
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said this sync stuff is a mind fuck to me
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c667@linux...
>>>>>> See below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>>>> If you remember this sync business has me completely befuddled so
>>>>>>> correct me if I'm wrong
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> are you saying that MTC will be passed along the BNC cable?
>>>>>> No, separate cables... BNC for word clock sync, and a MIDI cable to
>>>>>> transmit MTC for "position" information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have Cubase2 / Nuendo2 / Reaper and Saw Studio on my second rig
>>>>>>> and they work flawlessly with my Dakota Card but but I'm trying to
>>>>>>> integrate PT into my setup but it looks like hoop jumping 101 will
>>>>>>> be on the agenda if I decide to proceed
>>>>>> It won't be as bad as you think... just remember that there always
>>>>>> has to be ONE clock master for everything. Do you have a separate
>>>>>> word clock generator? You may want to invest in one... it will
>>>>>> simplify things greatly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4935c060@linux...
>>>>>>>> Paris should recognize any MIDI interface that is hooked up to the
>>>>>>>> computer. The word clock out from Paris could be sent to the BNC
>>>>>>>> word in on the Lightbridge to facilitate clocking. Paris will
>>>>>>>> generate MTC from the timeline I believe (it's been a while) that
>>>>>>>> PT could follow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Getting the M-Audio interface would also allow you to integrate
>>>>>>>> Cubase at some point (more useful than PT IMHO) which would get you
>>>>>>>> mixing with full PDC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I'm in the middle of renovations and can't access
>>>>>>>>> Paris - hell
>>>>>>>>> I have no idea where I put the damn rig anymore
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hehehehe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now for reasons best left untouched I am considering adding PT to
>>>>>>>>> my arsenal
>>>>>>>>> of goodies and of course I would host it on my second computer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I can't afford an HD rig, my options are limited to PT
>>>>>>>>> M-Powered,
>>>>>>>>> using the M-Audio Profire Lightbridge to fly audio between the
>>>>>>>>> computers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now as Kerry rightly pointed out there is no ADAT sync port on
>>>>>>>>> this puppy
>>>>>>>>> and according to M-Audio tech support Pro Tools M-Powered will
>>>>>>>>> recognise MTC
>>>>>>>>> for it's transport control.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now for the dumb Q
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Paris is supposably able to generate MTC but where does it output
>>>>>>>>> as there are no midi ports in Paris?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bottom line here is if I have to jump through too many hoops to
>>>>>>>>> integrate PT into my setup well Digi can go "F" themselves
>>
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| Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC [message #101403 is a reply to message #101400] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 16:24 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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Would Paris recognise a USB midi interface?
"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935d0df@linux...
> Aside from PT and a compatible interface (like the Lightbridge)... You
> *NEED* a MIDI interface for Paris. You *SHOULD* buy a wordclock generator
> to save what little hair you have left... ;-)
>
> David.
>
>>
>> So to clarify I'll need to purchase a MTC interface and a wordclock
>> generator as well as the lightbridge and PT
>>
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>>> TC wrote:
>>>> You would use a separate midi interface for MTC if the lightbridge has
>>>> no midi i/o.
>>>>
>>>> Any midi interface should work with paris for MTC, I've used midisport
>>>> usb uno's and midiman interfaces, and other soundcard midi ports with
>>>> Paris over the years. You are just connecting midi cables to the midi
>>>> interfaces on each system for the MTC sync side of things.
>>>>
>>>> With MTC, you are basically locking the position/transport of one daw
>>>> so it follows the positioning of the master daw, as David said.
>>>>
>>>> The midi time code will sync the positioning/timelines, the wordclock
>>>> will sync the digital audio signals so you don't get clicks/pops etc.
>>>> with multiple digital devices.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> TC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Dakota should work also.
>>>>
>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>> Okay now I'm confused...where's the midi out coming from
>>>>>
>>>>> remember this lightbridge is supposed to replace the Dakota card which
>>>>> does have midi in and out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you suggesting the Dakota and Lightbridge can coexist on the same
>>>>> computer and play nice together?
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said this sync stuff is a mind fuck to me
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4935c667@linux...
>>>>>> See below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>>>> If you remember this sync business has me completely befuddled so
>>>>>>> correct me if I'm wrong
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> are you saying that MTC will be passed along the BNC cable?
>>>>>> No, separate cables... BNC for word clock sync, and a MIDI cable to
>>>>>> transmit MTC for "position" information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have Cubase2 / Nuendo2 / Reaper and Saw Studio on my second rig
>>>>>>> and they work flawlessly with my Dakota Card but but I'm trying to
>>>>>>> integrate PT into my setup but it looks like hoop jumping 101 will
>>>>>>> be on the agenda if I decide to proceed
>>>>>> It won't be as bad as you think... just remember that there always
>>>>>> has to be ONE clock master for everything. Do you have a separate
>>>>>> word clock generator? You may want to invest in one... it will
>>>>>> simplify things greatly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4935c060@linux...
>>>>>>>> Paris should recognize any MIDI interface that is hooked up to the
>>>>>>>> computer. The word clock out from Paris could be sent to the BNC
>>>>>>>> word in on the Lightbridge to facilitate clocking. Paris will
>>>>>>>> generate MTC from the timeline I believe (it's been a while) that
>>>>>>>> PT could follow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Getting the M-Audio interface would also allow you to integrate
>>>>>>>> Cubase at some point (more useful than PT IMHO) which would get you
>>>>>>>> mixing with full PDC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don Nafe wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I'm in the middle of renovations and can't access
>>>>>>>>> Paris - hell
>>>>>>>>> I have no idea where I put the damn rig anymore
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hehehehe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now for reasons best left untouched I am considering adding PT to
>>>>>>>>> my arsenal
>>>>>>>>> of goodies and of course I would host it on my second computer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I can't afford an HD rig, my options are limited to PT
>>>>>>>>> M-Powered,
>>>>>>>>> using the M-Audio Profire Lightbridge to fly audio between the
>>>>>>>>> computers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now as Kerry rightly pointed out there is no ADAT sync port on
>>>>>>>>> this puppy
>>>>>>>>> and according to M-Audio tech support Pro Tools M-Powered will
>>>>>>>>> recognise MTC
>>>>>>>>> for it's transport control.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now for the dumb Q
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Paris is supposably able to generate MTC but where does it output
>>>>>>>>> as there are no midi ports in Paris?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bottom line here is if I have to jump through too many hoops to
>>>>>>>>> integrate PT into my setup well Digi can go "F" themselves
>>
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