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SCSI probs [message #76141] Sat, 18 November 2006 12:29 Go to next message
no is currently offline  no   UNITED STATES
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Well, it's been a long time since I've been here, and unfortunately, I no
longer have my PARIS system.
(Hopefully this will be remedied... Some day.) Anyways, I have this old SCSI
drive with tons of unfinished work on it, and I thought I'd like to hear
some of the 3-year-old mixdowns. Problem is, I have a brand new computer,
and even when I called IBM for a termonology refresher so I could get this
drive working, they said that I was using some "pretty old technology" and
that it was "almost obsolete." Wha? A 15k SCSI drive is that tired? Anyways,
I'm not very technically inclined nowadays, as I lose any abilities that I
don't nurture. So I may have a hard time giving correct information in the
matter, but I'm sure someone here knows what's up. Here's the problem.

I have an IBM Ultrastar 36Z15 Drive, model# ic35l036ucpr15-0.
This is the 36.7 GB, 15,000 RPM unit.

I bought an Ultra 160 controller and SCA adaptor (80 pin to SCSI 3) As per
the IBM guy.
A terminator is built in to the ribbon cable.

It looks exactly the same as the setup I had in my Paris system.

The SCSI boot utility detects the drive, but when it tried to verify the
media, it times out. If I boot Windows, I get the boot screen, and just when
it is about to go to the XP logon screen, I get black. The SCSI spins,
stops, spins, stops.. for as long as I keep the computer plugged in.

I confess that I have no idea what jumpers to worry about (disable parity,
delay spin, etc.) But right now, I can't do an entire research project on
this, and I don't have a studio anymore anyways.. I just got a bit
nostalgic. So does anyone have any ideas off the top of their head? Is the
drive toast? It worked a few months ago before I tossed the old computer,
but that was with the old adaptor and controller.

Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
John
Re: SCSI probs [message #76143 is a reply to message #76141] Sat, 18 November 2006 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
John,
If you know anyone that has an "old" AVID video editing system, see if you
can hook the drive up to their system, and copy the files to their newer
drives which are most probably IDE, and get them to burn a DVD or the like.
Never know, it may work.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"John" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:455f6ae6$1@linux...
> Well, it's been a long time since I've been here, and unfortunately, I no
> longer have my PARIS system.
> (Hopefully this will be remedied... Some day.) Anyways, I have this old
> SCSI drive with tons of unfinished work on it, and I thought I'd like to
> hear some of the 3-year-old mixdowns. Problem is, I have a brand new
> computer, and even when I called IBM for a termonology refresher so I
> could get this drive working, they said that I was using some "pretty old
> technology" and that it was "almost obsolete." Wha? A 15k SCSI drive is
> that tired? Anyways, I'm not very technically inclined nowadays, as I lose
> any abilities that I don't nurture. So I may have a hard time giving
> correct information in the matter, but I'm sure someone here knows what's
> up. Here's the problem.
>
> I have an IBM Ultrastar 36Z15 Drive, model# ic35l036ucpr15-0.
> This is the 36.7 GB, 15,000 RPM unit.
>
> I bought an Ultra 160 controller and SCA adaptor (80 pin to SCSI 3) As per
> the IBM guy.
> A terminator is built in to the ribbon cable.
>
> It looks exactly the same as the setup I had in my Paris system.
>
> The SCSI boot utility detects the drive, but when it tried to verify the
> media, it times out. If I boot Windows, I get the boot screen, and just
> when it is about to go to the XP logon screen, I get black. The SCSI
> spins, stops, spins, stops.. for as long as I keep the computer plugged
> in.
>
> I confess that I have no idea what jumpers to worry about (disable parity,
> delay spin, etc.) But right now, I can't do an entire research project on
> this, and I don't have a studio anymore anyways.. I just got a bit
> nostalgic. So does anyone have any ideas off the top of their head? Is the
> drive toast? It worked a few months ago before I tossed the old computer,
> but that was with the old adaptor and controller.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
> Thanks
> John
>
>
>
Re: SCSI probs [message #76157 is a reply to message #76143] Sun, 19 November 2006 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nosp is currently offline  nosp   UNITED STATES
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I'm out of luck there. I'm pretty much out of the recording industry
loop. I'm in a small, new town, and I don't know anyone yet. I guess I
could call some computer techs and see if they can transfer to a RAID
drive for me.

Martin Harrington wrote:
> John,
> If you know anyone that has an "old" AVID video editing system, see if you
> can hook the drive up to their system, and copy the files to their newer
> drives which are most probably IDE, and get them to burn a DVD or the like.
> Never know, it may work.
Re: SCSI probs [message #76161 is a reply to message #76157] Sun, 19 November 2006 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nil is currently offline  Nil
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John, try a few TV stations in your market - call their
production manager & ask what they'd charge to transfer some
stuff for you... it's tough to find a TV station that doesn't
have an Avid system of some type.

Neil

John <nosp@m.com> wrote:
>I'm out of luck there. I'm pretty much out of the recording industry
>loop. I'm in a small, new town, and I don't know anyone yet. I guess I
>could call some computer techs and see if they can transfer to a RAID
>drive for me.
>
>Martin Harrington wrote:
>> John,
>> If you know anyone that has an "old" AVID video editing system, see if
you
>> can hook the drive up to their system, and copy the files to their newer

>> drives which are most probably IDE, and get them to burn a DVD or the
like.
>> Never know, it may work.
Re: SCSI probs [message #76172 is a reply to message #76161] Sun, 19 November 2006 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nosp is currently offline  nosp   UNITED STATES
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Thanks Neil, good thinking.
Neil wrote:
> John, try a few TV stations in your market - call their
> production manager & ask what they'd charge to transfer some
> stuff for you... it's tough to find a TV station that doesn't
> have an Avid system of some type.
>
> Neil
>
> John <nosp@m.com> wrote:
>> I'm out of luck there. I'm pretty much out of the recording industry
>> loop. I'm in a small, new town, and I don't know anyone yet. I guess I
>> could call some computer techs and see if they can transfer to a RAID
>> drive for me.
>>
>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>> John,
>>> If you know anyone that has an "old" AVID video editing system, see if
> you
>>> can hook the drive up to their system, and copy the files to their newer
>
>>> drives which are most probably IDE, and get them to burn a DVD or the
> like.
>>> Never know, it may work.
>
Re: SCSI probs [message #76203 is a reply to message #76172] Mon, 20 November 2006 05:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
For the record this is not the same John as ME the original. How about adding
an initial or change your nick to John Diddy or something. hehe
John
no@no.com

John <nosp@m.com> wrote:
>Thanks Neil, good thinking.
>Neil wrote:
>> John, try a few TV stations in your market - call their
>> production manager & ask what they'd charge to transfer some
>> stuff for you... it's tough to find a TV station that doesn't
>> have an Avid system of some type.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> John <nosp@m.com> wrote:
>>> I'm out of luck there. I'm pretty much out of the recording industry

>>> loop. I'm in a small, new town, and I don't know anyone yet. I guess
I
>>> could call some computer techs and see if they can transfer to a RAID

>>> drive for me.
>>>
>>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>>> John,
>>>> If you know anyone that has an "old" AVID video editing system, see
if
>> you
>>>> can hook the drive up to their system, and copy the files to their newer
>>
>>>> drives which are most probably IDE, and get them to burn a DVD or the
>> like.
>>>> Never know, it may work.
>>
Re: SCSI probs [message #76227 is a reply to message #76203] Mon, 20 November 2006 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>For the record this is not the same John as ME the original. How about
adding
>an initial or change your nick to John Diddy or something. hehe
>John
>no@no.com

Don't worry - everyone here knows it wasn't the same John...
there wasn't near enough bitching & complaining in those posts
for it to have been you.

:)
Re: SCSI probs [message #76252 is a reply to message #76227] Tue, 21 November 2006 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nosp is currently offline  nosp   UNITED STATES
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So if I take a windows formatted drive to a mac avid setup, will they be
able to read it? Also, I'm getting ready to install ubuntu on a second
drive. I'd still have windows on my primary drive, then I'd set up a
drive to swap between linux and window. Will linux read the windows
Formatted SCSI and allow me to transfer over?
I know anyone attempting this should know the answer to this question,
but that's why I'm using a dedicated drive!!!


Neil wrote:
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> For the record this is not the same John as ME the original. How about
> adding
>> an initial or change your nick to John Diddy or something. hehe
>> John
>> no@no.com
>
> Don't worry - everyone here knows it wasn't the same John...
> there wasn't near enough bitching & complaining in those posts
> for it to have been you.
>
> :)
Re: SCSI probs [message #76260 is a reply to message #76252] Tue, 21 November 2006 11:02 Go to previous message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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Registered: February 2006
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i believe as long as it's fat32 they can.



On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:03:44 -0500, "John Diddy :0)" <nosp@m.com>
wrote:

>So if I take a windows formatted drive to a mac avid setup, will they be
>able to read it? Also, I'm getting ready to install ubuntu on a second
>drive. I'd still have windows on my primary drive, then I'd set up a
>drive to swap between linux and window. Will linux read the windows
>Formatted SCSI and allow me to transfer over?
>I know anyone attempting this should know the answer to this question,
>but that's why I'm using a dedicated drive!!!
>
>
>Neil wrote:
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> For the record this is not the same John as ME the original. How about
>> adding
>>> an initial or change your nick to John Diddy or something. hehe
>>> John
>>> no@no.com
>>
>> Don't worry - everyone here knows it wasn't the same John...
>> there wasn't near enough bitching & complaining in those posts
>> for it to have been you.
>>
>> :)
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