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| Re: *******Multiband Compressor Released!!!******* [message #93865 is a reply to message #93858] |
Sat, 22 December 2007 07:43   |
Erling
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Actually, you can do something with it on your guitar. Often acoustic
guitars isn't subdued enough inside the body in some
frequencies,(Often around F to G on the the thick E-string) so if you
can find out where the problem is, a piece of wood glued at the right
place inside the body can make a miracle with the tone.
Erling
On 23 Dec 2007 01:11:02 +1000, "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
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>:_)
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>Actually, I tried both those things, but my acoustic guitar has rosewood
>back and sides, and it is just boomy as hell.
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>What I ended up doing was stuffing face cloths inside it to dampen it, like
>you would do with a bass drum. :)
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>erlilo <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>...or used a mic with lower proximy effect:D...
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>>On 22 Dec 2007 12:32:25 +1000, "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>>>Or, you could've just backed the mic off a bit.
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>>>LOL!
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>>>(just giving you a hard time ) :D
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>>>Neil
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| Re: *******Multiband Compressor Released!!!******* [message #93869 is a reply to message #93865] |
Sat, 22 December 2007 10:56 |
Neil
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I'd hate to see someone try that & have it NOT work out well.
That's a job for an experienced luthier, methinks - even if
it's a simple process; just knowing exactly WHERE to place it
on a particular guitar would be the key.
A less-elegant, but just as practical, solution would be to
tape a folded-up paper towel or tissue paper to the guitar front
or back when recording... use that blue 3M painters' tape that
you can get at an home improvement store, and as long as you
don't leave it stuck on the guitar for a long period of time
(and I mean days at a time) it peels off with no residue at
all. Just play around & find the right spot on the guitar that
a small square of folded paper towel/tissue will dampen the
boominiess & you're there!
BTW, regarding that blue tape - it comes in QUITE handy around
the studio... coupled with said small section of folded paper
towel, it works great on drum heads if you need to dampen
anything, or even if a drummer has a cymbal that rings too
long for a particular song or feel, or what have you. If you're
triggering drum samples & you have a drum that's double-
triggering due to too much movement of the head - same thing;
and I've even used it on a bass players bass that had the jack
contacts too loose, and the cord would fall out from time to
time (he didn't want to have me open it up & simply squeeze the
contacts closer together - go figure), so I used a couple of
strips of that blue tape wrapped around the barrel of the cable
& taped to the body... again, peels right off when you're done,
without any residue left behind on the finish.
Every studio should have a roll! lol
Neil
erlilo <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>Actually, you can do something with it on your guitar. Often acoustic
>guitars isn't subdued enough inside the body in some
>frequencies,(Often around F to G on the the thick E-string) so if you
>can find out where the problem is, a piece of wood glued at the right
>place inside the body can make a miracle with the tone.
>
>Erling
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>On 23 Dec 2007 01:11:02 +1000, "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
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>>
>>:_)
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>>Actually, I tried both those things, but my acoustic guitar has rosewood
>>back and sides, and it is just boomy as hell.
>>
>>What I ended up doing was stuffing face cloths inside it to dampen it,
like
>>you would do with a bass drum. :)
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>>erlilo <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>>...or used a mic with lower proximy effect:D...
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>>>On 22 Dec 2007 12:32:25 +1000, "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>>>>Or, you could've just backed the mic off a bit.
>>>>
>>>>LOL!
>>>>
>>>>(just giving you a hard time ) :D
>>>>
>>>>Neil
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| Re: Mike Audet's Multiband Compressor Rules [message #93961 is a reply to message #93853] |
Mon, 24 December 2007 11:37 |
Carl Amburn
Messages: 214
Registered: July 2005
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Well, I change my settings all the time - kinda depends on the music. I've
grown used to mixing into the eds comp and slamming it pretty hard - which
causes me to split up a lot of my tracks into different bandwidths to
compensate for that bad compression 'breathing'. Basically, I tend to *hear*
the compression the most with the high frequencies getting bumped around and
not sounding natural. So - the multiband is totally clearing that up, while
letting me slam the mid and low frequencies even more, which kinda reminds
me of that old analog tape 'blending' affect from slamming the tape.
For this stuff, my settings are roughly....
2:1 (or a little less), ~60 to 70ms attack, .001 release << on all 3 bands
(set the same)
crossover points are 270Hz and 6.5K
The real magic happens (for me) by playing with the threshold and output
levels.
Low is -38 thresh, +9.5 out, Mid is -36 thresh, +7 out, and Hi is -25 thresh
and +4 out.
Now - I'm not sure how this would translate to other people's mix setups -
but I am loving how it's generally treating mine. It's nice because I've
worked with the eds comp so long and am so used to it, that Mike's
modification is really easy for me to know what's going on signal-wise. I
have a much harder time trying to get something like a Waves C4 to react
like I want. Anyway, woo hoo!
-Carl
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:476ce8c7$1@linux...
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> Hi,
> Can you share the settings of the multiband you used for this song ?
> Nice !
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
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> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>The first one sounds really good as Neil said, but you kinda need
>>something
>>good obviously.
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>>The second one however keeps giving me that feeling that I'm excited about
>>the music. ;o) I go back to the first and go "Nah, that's just as good"
> and
>>then to the second and go "Oh, no it's not".
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>>So I kinda sounds better each time I switch.
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>>I sooooo gotta get my Paris up and running and try this one. This is the
>>one. Want want want! :o)
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>>Must find some money for Mike. How good!
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>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
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>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>Man oh man. Ok - I am loving this thing.
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>>>I push the hell out of the 2-track buss (eds comp) with my mixes, and
>>>applying Mike's multiband version is letting me hit it like a madman, and
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>>>yet it's clearing things up and becoming more 'open' sounding. I am
>>>really
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>>>stoked about this.
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>>>Here's a sample of what I'm talking about - same mix, just a swap out of
>>the
>>>comps.
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>>>Sample A http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_A.wav << normal
> eds
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>>>comp
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>>>Sample B http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_B.wav << multiband
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>>>eds comp
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>>>woo hoo!,
>>>-Carl
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>>>
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| Re: *******Multiband Compressor Released!!!******* [message #94009 is a reply to message #93780] |
Tue, 25 December 2007 09:46 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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Hello Mike,
Wow, I had not realized you were coding (codding, codeing, codine :(-)) for
Paris...
PayPal accomplished and
Feliz Navidad...!!!!
El Miguel
"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote in message news:476b13c2$1@linux...
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> Hi All,
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> I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's a
> combo
> of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS assembler
> for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing for the
> last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars.
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> As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down to the
> bottom of the page.
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> Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if
> these plugins are being used.
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> Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my girlfriend a
> ring!!!!
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> Cheers!
> Mike
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