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| Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #78924] |
Wed, 24 January 2007 12:46  |
Jon Jiles
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Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here because
it's an excellent newsgroup..
What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure out
what I should do when/if I have to go there.
Thanks,
Jon
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #78925 is a reply to message #78924] |
Wed, 24 January 2007 12:02  |
EK Sound
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Well, we haven't bailed, but we have added to attract a wider
clientele. We currently have the following:
Paris - 5 x EDS, 2 x MEC
NU3/SX3 - RME HDSP9652's and UAD's
PTHD3 Accel - 3 x 192 I/O expanded (48 analog in's), 1 x Sync I/O
All this terminates via adat optical at a DM2000v2 for control,
routing and additional I/O plus control room functions.
David.
Jon Jiles wrote:
> Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here because
> it's an excellent newsgroup..
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> What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
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> I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure out
> what I should do when/if I have to go there.
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> Thanks,
> Jon
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #78962 is a reply to message #78924] |
Wed, 24 January 2007 20:33 |
Dedric Terry
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Nuendo and Cubase 4, Sequoia, RME interfaces, Mackie Control.
On 1/24/07 1:46 PM, in article 45b7b77a@linux, "Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com>
wrote:
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> Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here because
> it's an excellent newsgroup..
>
> What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>
> I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure out
> what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #78972 is a reply to message #78928] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 02:14 |
rick
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i forgot the MixedLogic M24 controller
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:22:58 -0500, rick <parnell68@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>running...
>PTLE, DP 4.6, Logic Pro 7.23
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>On 25 Jan 2007 06:46:02 +1000, "Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com> wrote:
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>>Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here because
>>it's an excellent newsgroup..
>>
>>What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>>
>>I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure out
>>what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Jon
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #78986 is a reply to message #78962] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 09:29 |
Gary Flanigan
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Pro Tools M-Powered, Project Mix I/O, RME ADI-8 Pro converters (saving for
Rosetta 800).
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Nuendo and Cubase 4, Sequoia, RME interfaces, Mackie Control.
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>On 1/24/07 1:46 PM, in article 45b7b77a@linux, "Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com>
>wrote:
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>> Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here because
>> it's an excellent newsgroup..
>>
>> What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>>
>> I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure
out
>> what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jon
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #78997 is a reply to message #78993] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 19:17 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
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Hi Jon,
I haven't left Paris. I'm just experimenting with stuff trying to mix
natively and getting something I like as much as a Paris mix. Mixing on two
platforms is sorta driving me nuts and I've been totally spoiled by the
feature set. Once I've accomplished that, then maybe I'll mix completely
natively.I'm experimenting with a Neve 5042 tape emulator on the Cubase mix
bus tonight. I'm also experimenting with some new RME drivers that seem
incredibly stable at low latency. I've been pretty happy with the Pulsar
cards I've been using as well but what has appealed to me about them is
their stability when interfacing with Paris during mixes. I Don't use the
synths and plugins that they offer very much and I'm just not convinced tha
the Pulsar system will make the jump to 64 bit. I think that's going to be
an important jump to make in the future and I want to be ready for it. I'm
actually trying to simplify by making things temporarily more complicated
and doing a lot of experimentation right now. If I go back to the RME cards
for my native platform, I'll likely keep at least one of the Pulsar cards
for a farm system and I'll probably keep Paris around for a tracking
platform no matter what. I just haven't seen anything yet that functions as
smoothly for tracking and for quick punch ins/outs as a Paris system. I'll
be giving the plugins that Dimitrios has been talking about a good run on
Paris, but I'm so spoiled by the Cubase editor that I sorta doubt I'll be
wanting to go back to something else. We'll see though.
;o)
"Jon Jiles" <yo@yoyoma.com> wrote in message news:45b905b8$1@linux...
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> Deej -
>
> You left Paris?... or you're easing out of Paris.... or...
> This set-up seems far too straightforward to be yours!!!
> This can't be true
>
> ;>)
>
> By the way, any issues with Houston and Cubase 4?
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Cubase SX & Cubase 4 running on Creamware Pulsar cards. Steinberg Houston
>
>>control surface.
>>
>>"Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message news:45b7b77a@linux...
>>>
>>> Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here
>>> because
>>> it's an excellent newsgroup..
>>>
>>> What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>>>
>>> I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure
>
>>> out
>>> what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jon
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #78998 is a reply to message #78997] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 20:06 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
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You REALLY have to try C4 with a dig/analog console set-up
for direct monitoring... channel for channel. Punch-ins and
transport functions are so snappy, you will forget about
tracking to Paris... seriously. I can punch in and out of a
track in N3, rapid fire succession, while trimming
previously recorded segments on the *same track*. It is so
fast and seamless it's scary... you really should check it
out. The DM2K we use here has a remote layer that works
flawlessly with Nuendo/Cubase. We get transport control,
full perimeter control/automation and complete recall/reset
capability that is saved with the session. Combine that with
24 high grade mic pres and up to 96 channels of digital I/O
and routing.... well I think you get the idea... ;-)
David.
DJ wrote:
> Hi Jon,
>
> I haven't left Paris. I'm just experimenting with stuff trying to mix
> natively and getting something I like as much as a Paris mix. Mixing on two
> platforms is sorta driving me nuts and I've been totally spoiled by the
> feature set. Once I've accomplished that, then maybe I'll mix completely
> natively.I'm experimenting with a Neve 5042 tape emulator on the Cubase mix
> bus tonight. I'm also experimenting with some new RME drivers that seem
> incredibly stable at low latency. I've been pretty happy with the Pulsar
> cards I've been using as well but what has appealed to me about them is
> their stability when interfacing with Paris during mixes. I Don't use the
> synths and plugins that they offer very much and I'm just not convinced tha
> the Pulsar system will make the jump to 64 bit. I think that's going to be
> an important jump to make in the future and I want to be ready for it. I'm
> actually trying to simplify by making things temporarily more complicated
> and doing a lot of experimentation right now. If I go back to the RME cards
> for my native platform, I'll likely keep at least one of the Pulsar cards
> for a farm system and I'll probably keep Paris around for a tracking
> platform no matter what. I just haven't seen anything yet that functions as
> smoothly for tracking and for quick punch ins/outs as a Paris system. I'll
> be giving the plugins that Dimitrios has been talking about a good run on
> Paris, but I'm so spoiled by the Cubase editor that I sorta doubt I'll be
> wanting to go back to something else. We'll see though.
> ;o)
>
>
> "Jon Jiles" <yo@yoyoma.com> wrote in message news:45b905b8$1@linux...
>
>>Deej -
>>
>>You left Paris?... or you're easing out of Paris.... or...
>>This set-up seems far too straightforward to be yours!!!
>>This can't be true
>>
>>;>)
>>
>>By the way, any issues with Houston and Cubase 4?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Jon
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Cubase SX & Cubase 4 running on Creamware Pulsar cards. Steinberg Houston
>>
>>>control surface.
>>>
>>>"Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message news:45b7b77a@linux...
>>>
>>>>Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here
>>>>because
>>>>it's an excellent newsgroup..
>>>>
>>>>What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>>>>
>>>>I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure
>>
>>>>out
>>>>what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Jon
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>>>
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79022 is a reply to message #78997] |
Fri, 26 January 2007 08:46 |
Rich[3]
Messages: 132
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DJ:
If you were not interfacing with Paris would you still be using Pulsar cards
for SX? I've been following your theads on Pulsar and was just woundering
if you considered them a targeted solution or worth a look as a stand alone
Cubase solution also. Or if it's worth the hassles of RME's total mix or??...
Thanks
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Hi Jon,
>
>I haven't left Paris. I'm just experimenting with stuff trying to mix
>natively and getting something I like as much as a Paris mix. Mixing on
two
>platforms is sorta driving me nuts and I've been totally spoiled by the
>feature set. Once I've accomplished that, then maybe I'll mix completely
>natively.I'm experimenting with a Neve 5042 tape emulator on the Cubase
mix
>bus tonight. I'm also experimenting with some new RME drivers that seem
>incredibly stable at low latency. I've been pretty happy with the Pulsar
>cards I've been using as well but what has appealed to me about them is
>their stability when interfacing with Paris during mixes. I Don't use the
>synths and plugins that they offer very much and I'm just not convinced
tha
>the Pulsar system will make the jump to 64 bit. I think that's going to
be
>an important jump to make in the future and I want to be ready for it. I'm
>actually trying to simplify by making things temporarily more complicated
>and doing a lot of experimentation right now. If I go back to the RME cards
>for my native platform, I'll likely keep at least one of the Pulsar cards
>for a farm system and I'll probably keep Paris around for a tracking
>platform no matter what. I just haven't seen anything yet that functions
as
>smoothly for tracking and for quick punch ins/outs as a Paris system. I'll
>be giving the plugins that Dimitrios has been talking about a good run on
>Paris, but I'm so spoiled by the Cubase editor that I sorta doubt I'll be
>wanting to go back to something else. We'll see though.
>;o)
>
>
>"Jon Jiles" <yo@yoyoma.com> wrote in message news:45b905b8$1@linux...
>>
>> Deej -
>>
>> You left Paris?... or you're easing out of Paris.... or...
>> This set-up seems far too straightforward to be yours!!!
>> This can't be true
>>
>> ;>)
>>
>> By the way, any issues with Houston and Cubase 4?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jon
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>Cubase SX & Cubase 4 running on Creamware Pulsar cards. Steinberg Houston
>>
>>>control surface.
>>>
>>>"Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message news:45b7b77a@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here
>>>> because
>>>> it's an excellent newsgroup..
>>>>
>>>> What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>>>>
>>>> I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure
>>
>>>> out
>>>> what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79027 is a reply to message #79022] |
Fri, 26 January 2007 08:56 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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I really like the new RME drivers. Very stable so far and with the new
Cubase4 Control Room functions, the issues I hated about Totalmix might be a
thing of the past. The RME driver is very easy to use and fast to change
buffers. Changing buffers in Scope is time consuming and requires a
reboot/reload of Windows to be effective. However, the Scope driver is
easily as stable as the RME driver and, I think, will probably still operate
more efficiently at 1.5 ms latency than the new RME driver according to my
preliminary tests. There are also some very cool tools/features to the Scope
environment that the totalmix doesn't offer, such as phase alignment in the
mixer. I'm trying to make some final decisions as to which native audio
platform (RME or CW) to use. Since I don't really use the onboard FX of
Scope, the quickness of the RME control panel appeals to me, but the
incredible flexibility of the Scope routing window is also appealing. I
absolutely hate the Scope midi implementation. I can't seem to get it to
work as a midi input/output router for midi controlled external hardware.
The RME midi works flawlessly for this. Also, ASIO and mixer channels are
limited in the Scope environment and the bigger the project you need to
create, the fewer resources you have available because you can't offload any
of these functions to your CPU. Once you're out of DSP resources, you're
hosed. Both platforms have their advantages/disadvantages. If I can get the
RME latency compensation to work on external FX (something I'm having some
issues with on Cubase 4 right now) I may just keep one Pulsar card for a
farm system and go with the RME cards for the native DAW. the Scope
midisuckage and limited DSP (unless you buy the $1400.00 "pro" cards) make
it a bit less appealing to me in some areas since the projects I configure
are so large and require so many resources. The CW stability at low
latencies and it's Parisfriendliness when synced to Paris ADAT are big
plusses. I haven't yet tried syncing the new RME drivers to Paris ADAT. That
will happen probably next week. the RME system was so unreliable with my
configuration last year that this is the reason I switched to the CW system.
However, I have changed and simplified the configuration since then so the
RME system may well be happy this time.
Regards,
Deej
"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:45ba2268$1@linux...
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> DJ:
>
> If you were not interfacing with Paris would you still be using Pulsar
> cards
> for SX? I've been following your theads on Pulsar and was just woundering
> if you considered them a targeted solution or worth a look as a stand
> alone
> Cubase solution also. Or if it's worth the hassles of RME's total mix
> or??...
> Thanks
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Hi Jon,
>>
>>I haven't left Paris. I'm just experimenting with stuff trying to mix
>>natively and getting something I like as much as a Paris mix. Mixing on
> two
>>platforms is sorta driving me nuts and I've been totally spoiled by the
>
>>feature set. Once I've accomplished that, then maybe I'll mix completely
>
>>natively.I'm experimenting with a Neve 5042 tape emulator on the Cubase
> mix
>>bus tonight. I'm also experimenting with some new RME drivers that seem
>
>>incredibly stable at low latency. I've been pretty happy with the Pulsar
>
>>cards I've been using as well but what has appealed to me about them is
>
>>their stability when interfacing with Paris during mixes. I Don't use the
>
>>synths and plugins that they offer very much and I'm just not convinced
> tha
>>the Pulsar system will make the jump to 64 bit. I think that's going to
> be
>>an important jump to make in the future and I want to be ready for it. I'm
>
>>actually trying to simplify by making things temporarily more complicated
>
>>and doing a lot of experimentation right now. If I go back to the RME
>>cards
>
>>for my native platform, I'll likely keep at least one of the Pulsar cards
>
>>for a farm system and I'll probably keep Paris around for a tracking
>>platform no matter what. I just haven't seen anything yet that functions
> as
>>smoothly for tracking and for quick punch ins/outs as a Paris system. I'll
>
>>be giving the plugins that Dimitrios has been talking about a good run on
>
>>Paris, but I'm so spoiled by the Cubase editor that I sorta doubt I'll be
>
>>wanting to go back to something else. We'll see though.
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>"Jon Jiles" <yo@yoyoma.com> wrote in message news:45b905b8$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Deej -
>>>
>>> You left Paris?... or you're easing out of Paris.... or...
>>> This set-up seems far too straightforward to be yours!!!
>>> This can't be true
>>>
>>> ;>)
>>>
>>> By the way, any issues with Houston and Cubase 4?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>Cubase SX & Cubase 4 running on Creamware Pulsar cards. Steinberg
>>>>Houston
>>>
>>>>control surface.
>>>>
>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message news:45b7b77a@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here
>>>>> because
>>>>> it's an excellent newsgroup..
>>>>>
>>>>> What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to
>>>>> figure
>>>
>>>>> out
>>>>> what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79028 is a reply to message #78998] |
Fri, 26 January 2007 09:08 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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I've been eyeing that Tascam 48 channel behemouth but not really too hard. I
can't afford the Yammy you're using. I think I can prolly get something
joyful happening routing tracks/busses in the Cubase 4 CR to my Furman HDS
16 cue system, use it just like I use Paris and then use my Houston
controller for the mixer functions. I don't need preamps and I scored a
used/perfect condition/fully loaded Friend-Chip Audio RMX32 yesterday for a
song. It's configured almost exactly as I would have ordered it if purchased
new. Between the Cubase 4 VST routing window and the RMX 32, some of my
kludges are going to go away and I will need less to accomplish more (famous
last words...eh?)
BTW, I'm expecting the glossy horse to show up any day now. I'll let you
know when.
;o)
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:45b97ed7@linux...
> You REALLY have to try C4 with a dig/analog console set-up for direct
> monitoring... channel for channel. Punch-ins and transport functions are
> so snappy, you will forget about tracking to Paris... seriously. I can
> punch in and out of a track in N3, rapid fire succession, while trimming
> previously recorded segments on the *same track*. It is so fast and
> seamless it's scary... you really should check it out. The DM2K we use
> here has a remote layer that works flawlessly with Nuendo/Cubase. We get
> transport control, full perimeter control/automation and complete
> recall/reset capability that is saved with the session. Combine that with
> 24 high grade mic pres and up to 96 channels of digital I/O and
> routing.... well I think you get the idea... ;-)
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>> Hi Jon,
>>
>> I haven't left Paris. I'm just experimenting with stuff trying to mix
>> natively and getting something I like as much as a Paris mix. Mixing on
>> two platforms is sorta driving me nuts and I've been totally spoiled by
>> the feature set. Once I've accomplished that, then maybe I'll mix
>> completely natively.I'm experimenting with a Neve 5042 tape emulator on
>> the Cubase mix bus tonight. I'm also experimenting with some new RME
>> drivers that seem incredibly stable at low latency. I've been pretty
>> happy with the Pulsar cards I've been using as well but what has appealed
>> to me about them is their stability when interfacing with Paris during
>> mixes. I Don't use the synths and plugins that they offer very much and
>> I'm just not convinced tha the Pulsar system will make the jump to 64
>> bit. I think that's going to be an important jump to make in the future
>> and I want to be ready for it. I'm actually trying to simplify by making
>> things temporarily more complicated and doing a lot of experimentation
>> right now. If I go back to the RME cards for my native platform, I'll
>> likely keep at least one of the Pulsar cards for a farm system and I'll
>> probably keep Paris around for a tracking platform no matter what. I just
>> haven't seen anything yet that functions as smoothly for tracking and for
>> quick punch ins/outs as a Paris system. I'll be giving the plugins that
>> Dimitrios has been talking about a good run on Paris, but I'm so spoiled
>> by the Cubase editor that I sorta doubt I'll be wanting to go back to
>> something else. We'll see though.
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>> "Jon Jiles" <yo@yoyoma.com> wrote in message news:45b905b8$1@linux...
>>
>>>Deej -
>>>
>>>You left Paris?... or you're easing out of Paris.... or...
>>>This set-up seems far too straightforward to be yours!!!
>>>This can't be true
>>>
>>>;>)
>>>
>>>By the way, any issues with Houston and Cubase 4?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Jon
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Cubase SX & Cubase 4 running on Creamware Pulsar cards. Steinberg
>>>>Houston
>>>
>>>>control surface.
>>>>
>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message news:45b7b77a@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here
>>>>>because
>>>>>it's an excellent newsgroup..
>>>>>
>>>>>What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure
>>>
>>>>>out
>>>>>what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Jon
>>>>
>>>>
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79233 is a reply to message #79022] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 19:57 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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Not an ex user, but I'm getting ready to build native and a bunch of
creamware cards I just picked up from the ForSale part of the NG.... :)
I've been playing with this idea for a while, and frankly though I adore my
UAD using it with Paris just pisses me off more than makes me smile because
of the latency I have to bear. I envision a host native running my external
(vsti and creamware) synths/big bang FX and VST wrapped with EDS sitting on
the Paris rig. Paris does what it does well and I'm sick of forcing it to be
more than that, personally straining my nerves along the way to get more,
more more. Native is going to be the integration route, and then probably on
to what we all will one day move to - all native. I don't need or care about
anything over 44.1 yet, but it'd be nice to say *yes, I can work on your
PT/Nuendo/Sonar session files* if it came up.
We'll see, I may be in line for becoming the next multi-DAW gear slut
candidate, heh.
AA
>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message news:45b7b77a@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here
>>>>> because
>>>>> it's an excellent newsgroup..
>>>>>
>>>>> What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to
>>>>> figure
>>>
>>>>> out
>>>>> what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79239 is a reply to message #79233] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 20:53 |
Paul Artola
Messages: 161
Registered: November 2005
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I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks as
my VST instantiator.
I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
Any suggestions or comments?
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:57:40 -0600, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Not an ex user, but I'm getting ready to build native and a bunch of
>creamware cards I just picked up from the ForSale part of the NG.... :)
>I've been playing with this idea for a while, and frankly though I adore my
>UAD using it with Paris just pisses me off more than makes me smile because
>of the latency I have to bear. I envision a host native running my external
>(vsti and creamware) synths/big bang FX and VST wrapped with EDS sitting on
>the Paris rig. Paris does what it does well and I'm sick of forcing it to be
>more than that, personally straining my nerves along the way to get more,
>more more. Native is going to be the integration route, and then probably on
>to what we all will one day move to - all native. I don't need or care about
>anything over 44.1 yet, but it'd be nice to say *yes, I can work on your
>PT/Nuendo/Sonar session files* if it came up.
>
>We'll see, I may be in line for becoming the next multi-DAW gear slut
>candidate, heh.
>
>AA
>
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79241 is a reply to message #79239] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 22:26 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Senior Member |
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Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks as
>my VST instantiator.
>
>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>
>Any suggestions or comments?
I have a comment & a suggestion:
Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
model).
Suggestion: Consider buying this...
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
about this myself.
Neil
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79246 is a reply to message #79241] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 22:14 |
Jeff hoover
Messages: 22
Registered: January 2007
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Junior Member |
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Neil,
I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
into the Magma.
Hoov
Neil wrote:
> Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks as
>>my VST instantiator.
>>
>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>
>>Any suggestions or comments?
>
>
> I have a comment & a suggestion:
>
> Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
> like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
> Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
> range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
> model).
>
> Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>
> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>
> The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
> buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
> CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
> NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
> kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
> convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
> better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>
> Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
> about this myself.
>
> Neil
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79248 is a reply to message #79246] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 23:35 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Senior Member |
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Jeff...
Thanks for that info, but I was referring to (and maybe I
shoulda been clearer) running Native on an OTR PC... running
Paris is a little (OK, a LOT!) different than running a Native
system, due to the DSP in Paris - Native takes a shitload more
horsepower & torque.
Neil
Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>Neil,
>
>I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
>about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
>of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
>into the Magma.
>
>Hoov
>
>
>Neil wrote:
>> Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks as
>>>my VST instantiator.
>>>
>>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>>
>>>Any suggestions or comments?
>>
>>
>> I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>
>> Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>> like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>> Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>> range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>> model).
>>
>> Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>
>> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>
>> The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>> buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>> CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>> NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>> kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>> convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>> better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>
>> Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>> about this myself.
>>
>> Neil
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79250 is a reply to message #79248] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 22:40 |
Jeff hoover
Messages: 22
Registered: January 2007
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Junior Member |
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|
Neil,
No problem. I've started running a multiface w/Cubase SX3 on it (just
using paris in Live mode), but haven't had high enough track counts in
that scenario to tax the proc. My concern with off the shelf boxes
would probably lie more in compatibility. Horsepower would be
comparable to a custom build with similar proc, after you strip out all
of the consumer channel software that muddies up the water.
Hoov
Neil wrote:
> Jeff...
>
> Thanks for that info, but I was referring to (and maybe I
> shoulda been clearer) running Native on an OTR PC... running
> Paris is a little (OK, a LOT!) different than running a Native
> system, due to the DSP in Paris - Native takes a shitload more
> horsepower & torque.
>
> Neil
>
>
> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>
>>Neil,
>>
>>I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
>>about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
>
>
>>of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
>
>
>>into the Magma.
>>
>>Hoov
>>
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>>>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks as
>>>>my VST instantiator.
>>>>
>>>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>>>
>>>>Any suggestions or comments?
>>>
>>>
>>>I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>>
>>>Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>>like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>>Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>>range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>>model).
>>>
>>>Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>>
>>>http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>>
>>>The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>>buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>>>CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>>>NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>>>kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>>>convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>>>better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>>
>>>Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>>>about this myself.
>>>
>>>Neil
>
>
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79251 is a reply to message #79250] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 23:51 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Senior Member |
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Thad says that the shared video memory is a major issue with OTR
boxes... he knows a lot more about computers than I do, so I'm
kinda hesitant to try one. A guy I know that's pretty hip on
PC's (but knows nothing about audio, or configuring them for
audio, unfortunately) says that there's a way to disable that,
but you have to physically disconnect the onboard video
hardware after installing a separate video card. So, bang-
for-horsepower-buck-wise, you can definitely get a damn good
deal on some OTR PC's, but I don't know how much the issue
above would render that meaningless if Thad's spot-on. I really
don't have a clue, personally, as I've never tried an OTR PC's
mobo in any of my DAW rigs.
Neil
Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>Neil,
>
>No problem. I've started running a multiface w/Cubase SX3 on it (just
>using paris in Live mode), but haven't had high enough track counts in
>that scenario to tax the proc. My concern with off the shelf boxes
>would probably lie more in compatibility. Horsepower would be
>comparable to a custom build with similar proc, after you strip out all
>of the consumer channel software that muddies up the water.
>
>Hoov
>
>Neil wrote:
>> Jeff...
>>
>> Thanks for that info, but I was referring to (and maybe I
>> shoulda been clearer) running Native on an OTR PC... running
>> Paris is a little (OK, a LOT!) different than running a Native
>> system, due to the DSP in Paris - Native takes a shitload more
>> horsepower & torque.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>>
>>>Neil,
>>>
>>>I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
>>>about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
>>
>>
>>>of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
>>
>>
>>>into the Magma.
>>>
>>>Hoov
>>>
>>>
>>>Neil wrote:
>>>
>>>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>>>>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>>>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks
as
>>>>>my VST instantiator.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>>>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>>>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>>>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>>>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any suggestions or comments?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>>>
>>>>Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>>>like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>>>Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>>>range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>>>model).
>>>>
>>>>Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>>>
>>>>http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>>>
>>>>The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>>>buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>>>>CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>>>>NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>>>>kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>>>>convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>>>>better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>>>
>>>>Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>>>>about this myself.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>
>>
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79252 is a reply to message #79251] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 23:07 |
Jeff hoover
Messages: 22
Registered: January 2007
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Junior Member |
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Yeh, typical video stinks on these things. I dropped a MSI dual head
card in it and it has been fine (it's GeForce 5200 based). So internal
expansion slots are as follows
AGP- 5200 video
PCI1-Multiface card
PCI2-Magma interface
PCI3-Turtle beach Catalina (to get Windows sound digital to a Benchmark
DAC1)
Only 3 PCI slots on this board
Onboard video and audio disabled
In the magma
4- EDS cards
1- promise ATA card (recording hard drives in magma).
Like I said cleaning the software is a pain. I actually immediately
reinstalled XP when I got it, loaded the latest drivers and followed the
process for an XP setup. No major hitches.
Hoov
Neil wrote:
> Thad says that the shared video memory is a major issue with OTR
> boxes... he knows a lot more about computers than I do, so I'm
> kinda hesitant to try one. A guy I know that's pretty hip on
> PC's (but knows nothing about audio, or configuring them for
> audio, unfortunately) says that there's a way to disable that,
> but you have to physically disconnect the onboard video
> hardware after installing a separate video card. So, bang-
> for-horsepower-buck-wise, you can definitely get a damn good
> deal on some OTR PC's, but I don't know how much the issue
> above would render that meaningless if Thad's spot-on. I really
> don't have a clue, personally, as I've never tried an OTR PC's
> mobo in any of my DAW rigs.
>
> Neil
>
>
> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>
>>Neil,
>>
>>No problem. I've started running a multiface w/Cubase SX3 on it (just
>>using paris in Live mode), but haven't had high enough track counts in
>>that scenario to tax the proc. My concern with off the shelf boxes
>>would probably lie more in compatibility. Horsepower would be
>>comparable to a custom build with similar proc, after you strip out all
>
>
>>of the consumer channel software that muddies up the water.
>>
>>Hoov
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>>Jeff...
>>>
>>>Thanks for that info, but I was referring to (and maybe I
>>>shoulda been clearer) running Native on an OTR PC... running
>>>Paris is a little (OK, a LOT!) different than running a Native
>>>system, due to the DSP in Paris - Native takes a shitload more
>>>horsepower & torque.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Neil,
>>>>
>>>>I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
>
>
>>>>about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
>>>
>>>
>>>>of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
>>>
>>>
>>>>into the Magma.
>>>>
>>>>Hoov
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>>>>>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>>>>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks
>
> as
>
>>>>>>my VST instantiator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>>>>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>>>>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>>>>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>>>>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any suggestions or comments?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>>>>
>>>>>Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>>>>like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>>>>Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>>>>range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>>>>model).
>>>>>
>>>>>Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>>>>
>>>>>The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>>>>buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>>>>>CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>>>>>NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>>>>>kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>>>>>convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>>>>>better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>>>>>about this myself.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79253 is a reply to message #79251] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 23:07 |
Jeff hoover
Messages: 22
Registered: January 2007
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Junior Member |
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By the way, I just disabled video and audio in the BIOS.
Hoov
Neil wrote:
> Thad says that the shared video memory is a major issue with OTR
> boxes... he knows a lot more about computers than I do, so I'm
> kinda hesitant to try one. A guy I know that's pretty hip on
> PC's (but knows nothing about audio, or configuring them for
> audio, unfortunately) says that there's a way to disable that,
> but you have to physically disconnect the onboard video
> hardware after installing a separate video card. So, bang-
> for-horsepower-buck-wise, you can definitely get a damn good
> deal on some OTR PC's, but I don't know how much the issue
> above would render that meaningless if Thad's spot-on. I really
> don't have a clue, personally, as I've never tried an OTR PC's
> mobo in any of my DAW rigs.
>
> Neil
>
>
> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>
>>Neil,
>>
>>No problem. I've started running a multiface w/Cubase SX3 on it (just
>>using paris in Live mode), but haven't had high enough track counts in
>>that scenario to tax the proc. My concern with off the shelf boxes
>>would probably lie more in compatibility. Horsepower would be
>>comparable to a custom build with similar proc, after you strip out all
>
>
>>of the consumer channel software that muddies up the water.
>>
>>Hoov
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>>Jeff...
>>>
>>>Thanks for that info, but I was referring to (and maybe I
>>>shoulda been clearer) running Native on an OTR PC... running
>>>Paris is a little (OK, a LOT!) different than running a Native
>>>system, due to the DSP in Paris - Native takes a shitload more
>>>horsepower & torque.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Neil,
>>>>
>>>>I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
>
>
>>>>about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
>>>
>>>
>>>>of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
>>>
>>>
>>>>into the Magma.
>>>>
>>>>Hoov
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>>>>>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>>>>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks
>
> as
>
>>>>>>my VST instantiator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>>>>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>>>>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>>>>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>>>>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any suggestions or comments?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>>>>
>>>>>Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>>>>like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>>>>Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>>>>range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>>>>model).
>>>>>
>>>>>Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>>>>
>>>>>The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>>>>buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>>>>>CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>>>>>NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>>>>>kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>>>>>convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>>>>>better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>>>>>about this myself.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79259 is a reply to message #79248] |
Tue, 30 January 2007 06:21 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
|
Senior Member |
|
|
That is exactly why I chose to go with the creamware
AA
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45bee72d$1@linux...
>
> Jeff...
>
> Thanks for that info, but I was referring to (and maybe I
> shoulda been clearer) running Native on an OTR PC... running
> Paris is a little (OK, a LOT!) different than running a Native
> system, due to the DSP in Paris - Native takes a shitload more
> horsepower & torque.
>
> Neil
>
>
> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>>Neil,
>>
>>I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
>>about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
>
>>of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
>
>>into the Magma.
>>
>>Hoov
>>
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>> Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>>>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks as
>>>>my VST instantiator.
>>>>
>>>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>>>
>>>>Any suggestions or comments?
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>>
>>> Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>> like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>> Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>> range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>> model).
>>>
>>> Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>>
>>> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>>
>>> The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>> buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>>> CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>>> NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>>> kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>>> convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>>> better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>>
>>> Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>>> about this myself.
>>>
>>> Neil
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79262 is a reply to message #78924] |
Tue, 30 January 2007 08:26 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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As many of you know, I was one of the first to integrate a Native DAW (2000)
Nuendo 1.2 into my daily studio rig along side of Paris.
After many project studio schematics and possible 'What next" brainstorming
session, I came to the conclusion that "I could have my cake".
By this I mean: To integrate an Analog or Digital Mixer for:
-I/Os
-Work-flow
-Summing
-Aesthetics: Big Studio Looks brings the $$$ :)
That being said, I had to integrate Pro-Tools into this equation. So, I built
a super fast Dual Operton (native) PC for Nuendo,Pro Tools & Acid and kept
my Paris machine, Paris.. As well as a few VSTi/Giga Studio box. And I'm
completing a DRUm-Only Vsti PC..
So there you have it..One thing might change this year. I got a very good
chance to get a Yamaha DM2000 & HD2 deal of a lifetime.. But, I realy really
love my SOundcraft Ghost (56 channels) and it's Mic Pres and EQ...Tough choices..
Oh well, maybe I'll add a B-Room??
"Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com> wrote:
>
>Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here because
>it's an excellent newsgroup..
>
>What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>
>I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure
out
>what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>
>Thanks,
>Jon
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79267 is a reply to message #78924] |
Tue, 30 January 2007 10:50 |
Steve Helm
Messages: 37
Registered: April 2006
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LogicPro 7.2, Metric Halo 2882+DSP, Mackie Control, Mackie XT, Mackie C4.
MIDI Express 128. Running off an Intel MacBook Pro 2.33 C2D (3GB RAM) internal
100GB SATA, and external Lacie Firewire drive.
So far I've had solid performance and quality sound. MCU surface with offers
awesome depth and ease of functionality. Logic has rich convolution reverb,
flexible bussing, grouping, and many great virtual instruments. Metric Halo
has fantastic converters (ULN2's are even finer), inline hardware +DSP effects,
and a rock solid stand-alone record panel.
So live gigs can be captured outside Logic and optionally with DSP effects.
BTW - The Metric Halo users group reminds me of this Paris group back in
1998.
Steve
"Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com> wrote:
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>Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here because
>it's an excellent newsgroup..
>
>What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>
>I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure
out
>what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>
>Thanks,
>Jon
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79294 is a reply to message #79265] |
Tue, 30 January 2007 21:58 |
Nil
Messages: 245
Registered: March 2007
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I think CubaseLE works with any ASIO-compliant card... just
check with whomever you plan to buy it from first to verify,
though. Again, the Lexi box itself is kinda crap, but for a
buck & a quarter you've got a 32-track Native DAW & a killer
reverb... good to get you started in native-land without
much of an investment.
Plus there's all the free VST plugins that John just posted a
link for... another advantage of VST.
Neil
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>The Lexi box looks pretty cool, but I would worry that the softwares
>that come with it require it only. My Tascam US428 came with a version
>of Cubasis that only works the the US428. Curse those farggin
>bastiges!
>
>- Paul
>
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>On 30 Jan 2007 16:26:29 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>
>>Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>model).
>>
>>Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>
>>http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>
>>The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>>CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>>NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>>kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>>convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>>better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>
>>Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>>about this myself.
>>
>>Neil
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79789 is a reply to message #78972] |
Fri, 09 February 2007 13:27 |
Jon Jiles
Messages: 90
Registered: November 2005
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Hey Rick -
How do you like the M24?
Thanks,
Jon
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>i forgot the MixedLogic M24 controller
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>On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:22:58 -0500, rick <parnell68@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
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>>running...
>>PTLE, DP 4.6, Logic Pro 7.23
>>
>>On 25 Jan 2007 06:46:02 +1000, "Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here because
>>>it's an excellent newsgroup..
>>>
>>>What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>>>
>>>I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure
out
>>>what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Jon
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