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| Sync issues Paris and Cubase via Scope card [message #98994] |
Wed, 28 May 2008 19:49  |
Robert
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Hi everyone, I have a Q regarding sync. The weird part is that this may be
normal, I'm not sure. When I press play in Paris, Cubase starts rolling but
always slows down, then speeds up and then after about 15 seconds, seems to
stabilise. Is this normal using ADAT sync?
Here is the setup:
(Computer 1)Paris Adat sync out via 9pin serial cable into (Computer2 )Scope
syncplate 9pin Serial running Cubase SX3. In Cubase, I am using the ASIO
Audio device setting, sample rate is set the same in Paris and Scope. I
setup a midi click in Cubase via my old D4 and its very un-stable at first
as mentioned above. When I try the audio click in cubase, it sounds solid
but I can still see the timeline jump ahead and then slow down. When I try
midioverLan to sync, it works perfect but is not sample accurate over time
as is ADAT sync, correct? Is this normal? Does the DAKOTA, have this issue
syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT?
Thanks in advance
Regards
Robert
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| Re: Sync issues Paris and Cubase via Scope card [message #98995 is a reply to message #98994] |
Thu, 29 May 2008 03:20  |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
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My Dakota has no problem syncing Cubase 2 to Paris...can't speak for version
3
"Rob A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message news:483e1c37@linux...
> Hi everyone, I have a Q regarding sync. The weird part is that this may be
> normal, I'm not sure. When I press play in Paris, Cubase starts rolling
> but always slows down, then speeds up and then after about 15 seconds,
> seems to stabilise. Is this normal using ADAT sync?
> Here is the setup:
> (Computer 1)Paris Adat sync out via 9pin serial cable into
> (Computer2 )Scope syncplate 9pin Serial running Cubase SX3. In Cubase, I
> am using the ASIO Audio device setting, sample rate is set the same in
> Paris and Scope. I setup a midi click in Cubase via my old D4 and its very
> un-stable at first as mentioned above. When I try the audio click in
> cubase, it sounds solid but I can still see the timeline jump ahead and
> then slow down. When I try midioverLan to sync, it works perfect but is
> not sample accurate over time as is ADAT sync, correct? Is this normal?
> Does the DAKOTA, have this issue syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Regards
> Robert
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| Re: Sync issues Paris and Cubase via Scope card [message #98996 is a reply to message #98995] |
Thu, 29 May 2008 03:32 |
Robert
Messages: 127
Registered: May 2007
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Thanks Don, are you using the "ASIO Audio device " in Cubase sync options?
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:483e859f@linux...
> My Dakota has no problem syncing Cubase 2 to Paris...can't speak for
> version 3
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> "Rob A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message news:483e1c37@linux...
>> Hi everyone, I have a Q regarding sync. The weird part is that this may
>> be normal, I'm not sure. When I press play in Paris, Cubase starts
>> rolling but always slows down, then speeds up and then after about 15
>> seconds, seems to stabilise. Is this normal using ADAT sync?
>> Here is the setup:
>> (Computer 1)Paris Adat sync out via 9pin serial cable into
>> (Computer2 )Scope syncplate 9pin Serial running Cubase SX3. In Cubase, I
>> am using the ASIO Audio device setting, sample rate is set the same in
>> Paris and Scope. I setup a midi click in Cubase via my old D4 and its
>> very un-stable at first as mentioned above. When I try the audio click in
>> cubase, it sounds solid but I can still see the timeline jump ahead and
>> then slow down. When I try midioverLan to sync, it works perfect but is
>> not sample accurate over time as is ADAT sync, correct? Is this normal?
>> Does the DAKOTA, have this issue syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Regards
>> Robert
>>
>>
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| Re: Sync issues Paris and Cubase via Scope card [message #98998 is a reply to message #98994] |
Thu, 29 May 2008 04:16 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
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Dear Rob,
Have you loaded inside scope sfp environement Syncplate source ?
I assume you have a syncplate addon card and thats why you have connected
Paris adat sync to syncplate's adat sync in, right ?
Now by openeing the Syncpale source under tools you have to select the same
MTC settings i.e 25 frames etc...
Then you have to use the ASIO2 dest64 module and there connect the Clk1 with
syncplate's clk out.
Have you done all these ?
Midi is NOT needed.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Rob A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
>Hi everyone, I have a Q regarding sync. The weird part is that this may
be
>normal, I'm not sure. When I press play in Paris, Cubase starts rolling
but
>always slows down, then speeds up and then after about 15 seconds, seems
to
>stabilise. Is this normal using ADAT sync?
>Here is the setup:
>(Computer 1)Paris Adat sync out via 9pin serial cable into (Computer2 )Scope
>syncplate 9pin Serial running Cubase SX3. In Cubase, I am using the ASIO
>Audio device setting, sample rate is set the same in Paris and Scope. I
>setup a midi click in Cubase via my old D4 and its very un-stable at first
>as mentioned above. When I try the audio click in cubase, it sounds solid
>but I can still see the timeline jump ahead and then slow down. When I try
>midioverLan to sync, it works perfect but is not sample accurate over time
>as is ADAT sync, correct? Is this normal? Does the DAKOTA, have this issue
>syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT?
>
>Thanks in advance
>Regards
>Robert
>
>
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| Re: Sync issues Paris and Cubase via Scope card [message #98999 is a reply to message #98995] |
Thu, 29 May 2008 07:11 |
Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
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Latest Dakota drivers and Cubase 3 works perfectly here.
Kim
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>My Dakota has no problem syncing Cubase 2 to Paris...can't speak for version
>3
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>"Rob A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message news:483e1c37@linux...
>> Hi everyone, I have a Q regarding sync. The weird part is that this may
be
>> normal, I'm not sure. When I press play in Paris, Cubase starts rolling
>> but always slows down, then speeds up and then after about 15 seconds,
>> seems to stabilise. Is this normal using ADAT sync?
>> Here is the setup:
>> (Computer 1)Paris Adat sync out via 9pin serial cable into
>> (Computer2 )Scope syncplate 9pin Serial running Cubase SX3. In Cubase,
I
>> am using the ASIO Audio device setting, sample rate is set the same in
>> Paris and Scope. I setup a midi click in Cubase via my old D4 and its
very
>> un-stable at first as mentioned above. When I try the audio click in
>> cubase, it sounds solid but I can still see the timeline jump ahead and
>> then slow down. When I try midioverLan to sync, it works perfect but is
>> not sample accurate over time as is ADAT sync, correct? Is this normal?
>> Does the DAKOTA, have this issue syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Regards
>> Robert
>>
>>
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| Re: Sync issues Paris and Cubase via Scope card [message #99001 is a reply to message #98998] |
Thu, 29 May 2008 10:26 |
Robert
Messages: 127
Registered: May 2007
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Hi Di, yes I have the syncplate source in my scope patchbay and I have the
same frame rate in Paris, and in syncplate setting but I was using the "
ASIO2 DEST" module and not the "ASIO2 DEST64" Do you think this would
cause it? Will try tonight when I get home.
"Dimitrios" <musxxx@otexxx.gr> wrote in message news:483e9094$1@linux...
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> Dear Rob,
> Have you loaded inside scope sfp environement Syncplate source ?
> I assume you have a syncplate addon card and thats why you have connected
> Paris adat sync to syncplate's adat sync in, right ?
Correct
> Now by openeing the Syncpale source under tools you have to select the
> same
> MTC settings i.e 25 frames etc...
Correct
> Then you have to use the ASIO2 dest64 module and there connect the Clk1
> with
> syncplate's clk out.
This is where I was using the "ASIO2 dest" module.
> Have you done all these ?
> Midi is NOT needed.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Rob A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
>>Hi everyone, I have a Q regarding sync. The weird part is that this may
> be
>>normal, I'm not sure. When I press play in Paris, Cubase starts rolling
> but
>>always slows down, then speeds up and then after about 15 seconds, seems
> to
>>stabilise. Is this normal using ADAT sync?
>>Here is the setup:
>>(Computer 1)Paris Adat sync out via 9pin serial cable into
>>(Computer2 )Scope
>
>>syncplate 9pin Serial running Cubase SX3. In Cubase, I am using the ASIO
>
>>Audio device setting, sample rate is set the same in Paris and Scope. I
>
>>setup a midi click in Cubase via my old D4 and its very un-stable at first
>
>>as mentioned above. When I try the audio click in cubase, it sounds solid
>
>>but I can still see the timeline jump ahead and then slow down. When I try
>
>>midioverLan to sync, it works perfect but is not sample accurate over time
>
>>as is ADAT sync, correct? Is this normal? Does the DAKOTA, have this issue
>
>>syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT?
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>>Regards
>>Robert
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Sync issues Paris and Cubase via Scope card [message #99002 is a reply to message #98998] |
Thu, 29 May 2008 15:33 |
Robert
Messages: 127
Registered: May 2007
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Hi Di, i tried the ASIO2 dest64 module in scope and get the same results. I
included an mp3 of the click track. Man this is puzzling. I thought maybe
this was normal coming from the old ADAT days where it took a few seconds to
get everything locked-up properly but you guys running adat sync aren't
experiencing this at all rite?
Regards,
Rob
"Dimitrios" <musxxx@otexxx.gr> wrote in message news:483e9094$1@linux...
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> Dear Rob,
> Have you loaded inside scope sfp environement Syncplate source ?
> I assume you have a syncplate addon card and thats why you have connected
> Paris adat sync to syncplate's adat sync in, right ?
> Now by openeing the Syncpale source under tools you have to select the
> same
> MTC settings i.e 25 frames etc...
> Then you have to use the ASIO2 dest64 module and there connect the Clk1
> with
> syncplate's clk out.
> Have you done all these ?
> Midi is NOT needed.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Rob A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
>>Hi everyone, I have a Q regarding sync. The weird part is that this may
> be
>>normal, I'm not sure. When I press play in Paris, Cubase starts rolling
> but
>>always slows down, then speeds up and then after about 15 seconds, seems
> to
>>stabilise. Is this normal using ADAT sync?
>>Here is the setup:
>>(Computer 1)Paris Adat sync out via 9pin serial cable into
>>(Computer2 )Scope
>
>>syncplate 9pin Serial running Cubase SX3. In Cubase, I am using the ASIO
>
>>Audio device setting, sample rate is set the same in Paris and Scope. I
>
>>setup a midi click in Cubase via my old D4 and its very un-stable at first
>
>>as mentioned above. When I try the audio click in cubase, it sounds solid
>
>>but I can still see the timeline jump ahead and then slow down. When I try
>
>>midioverLan to sync, it works perfect but is not sample accurate over time
>
>>as is ADAT sync, correct? Is this normal? Does the DAKOTA, have this issue
>
>>syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT?
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>>Regards
>>Robert
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Sync issues Paris and Cubase via Scope card [message #99014 is a reply to message #99002] |
Fri, 30 May 2008 04:36 |
DIMITRIOS[1]
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I don't use it right now but when I used it don't remember any such behaviour...
Regarding midi why do you use midi ??
Have you made Cubase follow the ASIO 2.0 sync option ??
NOT the Midi timecode neither the MMC option.
When using the asio 2 sync option midi is not needed in any way for syncing.
The bars info comes from adat sync...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Rob A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
>Hi Di, i tried the ASIO2 dest64 module in scope and get the same results.
I
>included an mp3 of the click track. Man this is puzzling. I thought maybe
>this was normal coming from the old ADAT days where it took a few seconds
to
>get everything locked-up properly but you guys running adat sync aren't
>experiencing this at all rite?
>
>Regards,
>Rob
>
>"Dimitrios" <musxxx@otexxx.gr> wrote in message news:483e9094$1@linux...
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>> Dear Rob,
>> Have you loaded inside scope sfp environement Syncplate source ?
>> I assume you have a syncplate addon card and thats why you have connected
>> Paris adat sync to syncplate's adat sync in, right ?
>> Now by openeing the Syncpale source under tools you have to select the
>> same
>> MTC settings i.e 25 frames etc...
>> Then you have to use the ASIO2 dest64 module and there connect the Clk1
>> with
>> syncplate's clk out.
>> Have you done all these ?
>> Midi is NOT needed.
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> "Rob A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
>>>Hi everyone, I have a Q regarding sync. The weird part is that this may
>> be
>>>normal, I'm not sure. When I press play in Paris, Cubase starts rolling
>> but
>>>always slows down, then speeds up and then after about 15 seconds, seems
>> to
>>>stabilise. Is this normal using ADAT sync?
>>>Here is the setup:
>>>(Computer 1)Paris Adat sync out via 9pin serial cable into
>>>(Computer2 )Scope
>>
>>>syncplate 9pin Serial running Cubase SX3. In Cubase, I am using the ASIO
>>
>>>Audio device setting, sample rate is set the same in Paris and Scope.
I
>>
>>>setup a midi click in Cubase via my old D4 and its very un-stable at first
>>
>>>as mentioned above. When I try the audio click in cubase, it sounds solid
>>
>>>but I can still see the timeline jump ahead and then slow down. When I
try
>>
>>>midioverLan to sync, it works perfect but is not sample accurate over
time
>>
>>>as is ADAT sync, correct? Is this normal? Does the DAKOTA, have this issue
>>
>>>syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance
>>>Regards
>>>Robert
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Sync issues Paris and Cubase via Scope card [message #99017 is a reply to message #99014] |
Fri, 30 May 2008 07:55 |
Robert
Messages: 127
Registered: May 2007
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Di, I don't use midi to sync, only midi within Cubase for a click.
Basically; Paris tells Cubase to start rolling via adat sync (scope), then
Cubase sends a click signal via midi (scope midi out) to and external tone
generator (D4) and I monitor the D4 audio output back into a Paris channel,
that is the mp3 you heard. But I have tried using midi to sync via
"midioverlan" in Paris and Cubase and it starts rite up and is stable (no
strange wobble @ first). Yes I have the ASIO 2.0 sync option enabled. I'm
gonna check my 9pin D-sub connector tonight, maybe its bad or the wrong one.
It is a regular straight-thru 9 pin, not a null correct?
Thanks Dimitrios
Regards,
Robert
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@xxx.gr> wrote in message news:483fe6a6$1@linux...
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> I don't use it right now but when I used it don't remember any such
> behaviour...
> Regarding midi why do you use midi ??
> Have you made Cubase follow the ASIO 2.0 sync option ??
> NOT the Midi timecode neither the MMC option.
> When using the asio 2 sync option midi is not needed in any way for
> syncing.
> The bars info comes from adat sync...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Rob A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
>>Hi Di, i tried the ASIO2 dest64 module in scope and get the same results.
> I
>>included an mp3 of the click track. Man this is puzzling. I thought maybe
>
>>this was normal coming from the old ADAT days where it took a few seconds
> to
>>get everything locked-up properly but you guys running adat sync aren't
>
>>experiencing this at all rite?
>>
>>Regards,
>>Rob
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musxxx@otexxx.gr> wrote in message news:483e9094$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Dear Rob,
>>> Have you loaded inside scope sfp environement Syncplate source ?
>>> I assume you have a syncplate addon card and thats why you have
>>> connected
>>> Paris adat sync to syncplate's adat sync in, right ?
>>> Now by openeing the Syncpale source under tools you have to select the
>
>>> same
>>> MTC settings i.e 25 frames etc...
>>> Then you have to use the ASIO2 dest64 module and there connect the Clk1
>
>>> with
>>> syncplate's clk out.
>>> Have you done all these ?
>>> Midi is NOT needed.
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>> "Rob A" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
>>>>Hi everyone, I have a Q regarding sync. The weird part is that this may
>>> be
>>>>normal, I'm not sure. When I press play in Paris, Cubase starts rolling
>>> but
>>>>always slows down, then speeds up and then after about 15 seconds, seems
>>> to
>>>>stabilise. Is this normal using ADAT sync?
>>>>Here is the setup:
>>>>(Computer 1)Paris Adat sync out via 9pin serial cable into
>>>>(Computer2 )Scope
>>>
>>>>syncplate 9pin Serial running Cubase SX3. In Cubase, I am using the ASIO
>>>
>>>>Audio device setting, sample rate is set the same in Paris and Scope.
> I
>>>
>>>>setup a midi click in Cubase via my old D4 and its very un-stable at
>>>>first
>>>
>>>>as mentioned above. When I try the audio click in cubase, it sounds
>>>>solid
>>>
>>>>but I can still see the timeline jump ahead and then slow down. When I
> try
>>>
>>>>midioverLan to sync, it works perfect but is not sample accurate over
> time
>>>
>>>>as is ADAT sync, correct? Is this normal? Does the DAKOTA, have this
>>>>issue
>>>
>>>>syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>Regards
>>>>Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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