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Optimum Paris Configuration Settings [message #100039] Sat, 16 August 2008 13:08 Go to next message
Richard Faylor is currently offline  Richard Faylor
Messages: 18
Registered: September 2005
Junior Member
Just stumbled upon this user group; had no idea it still existed.

Anyway, I need some advice regarding configuration settings for running Paris
3.0 (single card) on an Apple G4 Ethernet dual processor running OS 9.2.
(And please forgive me for sounding ignorant because I am.)

Lately, depending on the project, I’ve gotten memory warnings when saving.
To work around it, I just cleared the Undo buffer within the project and
kept working.

Today I decided to try to optimize my settings. I referred to an old user
group posting that recommended the following and made these changes.

BEFORE AFTER
Disk I/O 64 128
Disk Cache 10 80*
Overview Cache 2048 4000
Manual Punch Short Long

The Paris manual says that Minimum and Preferred Memory Settings for Paris
be increased by 1200k for every MB that the Disk Cache is increased. Since
I had increased the Disk Cache from 10 to 80MB (an increase of 70MB) that
meant 1200k x 70 = 84000k. But rather than adding that to my previous minimum
and preferred settings of 62998, I added it to the recommended minimum and
preferred settings of 5098 and ended up at 89098 for both minimum and preferred,
i.e.
BEFORE AFTER
Minimum 62988 89098
Preferred 62988 89098

Now the bad news: After closing Paris and restarting, I can’t get Paris to
open. Instead, I get a warning saying there’s insufficient memory and that
clearing the Undo buffer might help. Of course, because Paris doesn’t open
I can’t unclear the Undo buffer. And because Paris isn’t opening, I can’t
revert or tweak Paris’ Disk I/O, Disk Cache, and Overview Cache settings,
either.

I tried enlarging the Minimum and Preferred settings—that didn’t help. I
tried setting my Mac’s Memory Control Panel to its largest size (32736k).
I restarted after each adjustment, but neither one helped. Paris still won’t
open.

Does anyone know what I should try next? Is there a way to get into the Paris
configuration settings when Paris is not opening?

Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated. (And please don’t tell me I’m an
idiot—I’m already fully aware of that.)

Many thanks,
Richard
Re: Optimum Paris Configuration Settings [message #100041 is a reply to message #100039] Sat, 16 August 2008 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Faylor is currently offline  Richard Faylor
Messages: 18
Registered: September 2005
Junior Member
This is Richard with additional info: Just read this in the Paris manual:
"Warning: Don’t set the Disk Cache too high. If you set it higher than the
available amount of memory in your computer, PARIS won’t boot! (The .cfg
file will most likely need to be replaced if you do this.)

So perhaps this means that my real question is, "How do you replace the .cfg
file?" There's nothing in the manual about it.

I also have this old post that says, "If you are not able to open PARIS and
need to change the Configuration settings to get Paris to work, use BBEdit
Lite (available on the net for free) to open the PARIS.cfg file. Make a backup
of the PARIS.cfg file before you open it. You can change all these settings
in there, and they're clearly labeled and you don't have to start up PARIS
to change the settings. Just keep the original text and change the numbers,
save the file and start up PARIS." However, I can't find a free download
of BBEdit Lite 4.6 on the Internet, perhaps because it's so old now. So another
question: Does anyone have a copy of BBEdit Lite 4.6 that they could send
me?




"Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Just stumbled upon this user group; had no idea it still existed.
>
>Anyway, I need some advice regarding configuration settings for running
Paris
>3.0 (single card) on an Apple G4 Ethernet dual processor running OS 9.2.
>(And please forgive me for sounding ignorant because I am.)
>
>Lately, depending on the project, I’ve gotten memory warnings when saving.
>To work around it, I just cleared the Undo buffer within the project and
>kept working.
>
>Today I decided to try to optimize my settings. I referred to an old user
>group posting that recommended the following and made these changes.
>
> BEFORE AFTER
>Disk I/O 64 128
>Disk Cache 10 80*
>Overview Cache 2048 4000
>Manual Punch Short Long
>
>The Paris manual says that Minimum and Preferred Memory Settings for Paris
>be increased by 1200k for every MB that the Disk Cache is increased. Since
>I had increased the Disk Cache from 10 to 80MB (an increase of 70MB) that
>meant 1200k x 70 = 84000k. But rather than adding that to my previous minimum
>and preferred settings of 62998, I added it to the recommended minimum and
>preferred settings of 5098 and ended up at 89098 for both minimum and preferred,
>i.e.
> BEFORE AFTER
>Minimum 62988 89098
>Preferred 62988 89098
>
>Now the bad news: After closing Paris and restarting, I can’t get Paris
to
>open. Instead, I get a warning saying there’s insufficient memory and that
>clearing the Undo buffer might help. Of course, because Paris doesn’t open
>I can’t unclear the Undo buffer. And because Paris isn’t opening, I can’t
>revert or tweak Paris’ Disk I/O, Disk Cache, and Overview Cache settings,
>either.
>
>I tried enlarging the Minimum and Preferred settings—that didn’t help. I
>tried setting my Mac’s Memory Control Panel to its largest size (32736k).
>I restarted after each adjustment, but neither one helped. Paris still
won’t
>open.
>
>Does anyone know what I should try next? Is there a way to get into the
Paris
>configuration settings when Paris is not opening?
>
>Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated. (And please don’t tell me I’m an
>idiot—I’m already fully aware of that.)
>
>Many thanks,
>Richard
>
Re: Optimum Paris Configuration Settings [message #100042 is a reply to message #100041] Sat, 16 August 2008 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
a few seconds on google turned up this alternative, since BBE has been
dropped. Give it a try!

http://www.barebones.com/products/bblite/index.shtml replaced with:

http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/index.shtml

http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/download.shtm l


AA


"Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:48a74825$1@linux...
>
> This is Richard with additional info: Just read this in the Paris manual:
> "Warning: Don't set the Disk Cache too high. If you set it higher than the
> available amount of memory in your computer, PARIS won't boot! (The .cfg
> file will most likely need to be replaced if you do this.)
>
> So perhaps this means that my real question is, "How do you replace the
> .cfg
> file?" There's nothing in the manual about it.
>
> I also have this old post that says, "If you are not able to open PARIS
> and
> need to change the Configuration settings to get Paris to work, use BBEdit
> Lite (available on the net for free) to open the PARIS.cfg file. Make a
> backup
> of the PARIS.cfg file before you open it. You can change all these
> settings
> in there, and they're clearly labeled and you don't have to start up PARIS
> to change the settings. Just keep the original text and change the
> numbers,
> save the file and start up PARIS." However, I can't find a free download
> of BBEdit Lite 4.6 on the Internet, perhaps because it's so old now. So
> another
> question: Does anyone have a copy of BBEdit Lite 4.6 that they could send
> me?
>
>
>
>
> "Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Just stumbled upon this user group; had no idea it still existed.
>>
>>Anyway, I need some advice regarding configuration settings for running
> Paris
>>3.0 (single card) on an Apple G4 Ethernet dual processor running OS 9.2.
>>(And please forgive me for sounding ignorant because I am.)
>>
>>Lately, depending on the project, I've gotten memory warnings when saving.
>>To work around it, I just cleared the Undo buffer within the project and
>>kept working.
>>
>>Today I decided to try to optimize my settings. I referred to an old user
>>group posting that recommended the following and made these changes.
>>
>> BEFORE AFTER
>>Disk I/O 64 128
>>Disk Cache 10 80*
>>Overview Cache 2048 4000
>>Manual Punch Short Long
>>
>>The Paris manual says that Minimum and Preferred Memory Settings for Paris
>>be increased by 1200k for every MB that the Disk Cache is increased. Since
>>I had increased the Disk Cache from 10 to 80MB (an increase of 70MB) that
>>meant 1200k x 70 = 84000k. But rather than adding that to my previous
>>minimum
>>and preferred settings of 62998, I added it to the recommended minimum and
>>preferred settings of 5098 and ended up at 89098 for both minimum and
>>preferred,
>>i.e.
>> BEFORE AFTER
>>Minimum 62988 89098
>>Preferred 62988 89098
>>
>>Now the bad news: After closing Paris and restarting, I can't get Paris
> to
>>open. Instead, I get a warning saying there's insufficient memory and that
>>clearing the Undo buffer might help. Of course, because Paris doesn't open
>>I can't unclear the Undo buffer. And because Paris isn't opening, I can't
>>revert or tweak Paris' Disk I/O, Disk Cache, and Overview Cache settings,
>>either.
>>
>>I tried enlarging the Minimum and Preferred settings-that didn't help. I
>>tried setting my Mac's Memory Control Panel to its largest size (32736k).
>>I restarted after each adjustment, but neither one helped. Paris still
> won't
>>open.
>>
>>Does anyone know what I should try next? Is there a way to get into the
> Paris
>>configuration settings when Paris is not opening?
>>
>>Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated. (And please don't tell me I'm an
>>idiot-I'm already fully aware of that.)
>>
>>Many thanks,
>>Richard
>>
>
Re: Optimum Paris Configuration Settings [message #100043 is a reply to message #100039] Sat, 16 August 2008 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Faylor is currently offline  Richard Faylor
Messages: 18
Registered: September 2005
Junior Member
Basically talking to myself so far, but I was able to get Paris to open by
tossing the .cfg file that I had screwed up and replacing it with a backup,
then reverting Preferred and Minimum and Memory Control Panel settings to
their original. So I’m back in business, but still wondering what the right
Disk I/O, Disk Cache, Overview Cache, Minimum and Preferred and Memory Control
Panel settings might be best for this system:

Power Macintosh G4 (Gigabit Ethernet)
2x450/2x500 MHz
Built-in Memory 1.5GB (three 512 drams)
Backside L2 Cache 1 MB
OS 9.2
Paris 3.0 (single card in MEC unit)

Many thanks,
Richard
Re: Optimum Paris Configuration Settings [message #100044 is a reply to message #100042] Sat, 16 August 2008 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
But ....
Textwrangler needs 10.4. To run..

Martin H


On 17/08/08 7:41 AM, in article 48a74b48$1@linux, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

> a few seconds on google turned up this alternative, since BBE has been
> dropped. Give it a try!
>
> http://www.barebones.com/products/bblite/index.shtml replaced with:
>
> http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/index.shtml
>
> http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/download.shtm l
>
>
> AA
>
>
> "Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:48a74825$1@linux...
>>
>> This is Richard with additional info: Just read this in the Paris manual:
>> "Warning: Don't set the Disk Cache too high. If you set it higher than the
>> available amount of memory in your computer, PARIS won't boot! (The .cfg
>> file will most likely need to be replaced if you do this.)
>>
>> So perhaps this means that my real question is, "How do you replace the
>> .cfg
>> file?" There's nothing in the manual about it.
>>
>> I also have this old post that says, "If you are not able to open PARIS
>> and
>> need to change the Configuration settings to get Paris to work, use BBEdit
>> Lite (available on the net for free) to open the PARIS.cfg file. Make a
>> backup
>> of the PARIS.cfg file before you open it. You can change all these
>> settings
>> in there, and they're clearly labeled and you don't have to start up PARIS
>> to change the settings. Just keep the original text and change the
>> numbers,
>> save the file and start up PARIS." However, I can't find a free download
>> of BBEdit Lite 4.6 on the Internet, perhaps because it's so old now. So
>> another
>> question: Does anyone have a copy of BBEdit Lite 4.6 that they could send
>> me?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just stumbled upon this user group; had no idea it still existed.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I need some advice regarding configuration settings for running
>> Paris
>>> 3.0 (single card) on an Apple G4 Ethernet dual processor running OS 9.2.
>>> (And please forgive me for sounding ignorant because I am.)
>>>
>>> Lately, depending on the project, I've gotten memory warnings when saving.
>>> To work around it, I just cleared the Undo buffer within the project and
>>> kept working.
>>>
>>> Today I decided to try to optimize my settings. I referred to an old user
>>> group posting that recommended the following and made these changes.
>>>
>>> BEFORE AFTER
>>> Disk I/O 64 128
>>> Disk Cache 10 80*
>>> Overview Cache 2048 4000
>>> Manual Punch Short Long
>>>
>>> The Paris manual says that Minimum and Preferred Memory Settings for Paris
>>> be increased by 1200k for every MB that the Disk Cache is increased. Since
>>> I had increased the Disk Cache from 10 to 80MB (an increase of 70MB) that
>>> meant 1200k x 70 = 84000k. But rather than adding that to my previous
>>> minimum
>>> and preferred settings of 62998, I added it to the recommended minimum and
>>> preferred settings of 5098 and ended up at 89098 for both minimum and
>>> preferred,
>>> i.e.
>>> BEFORE AFTER
>>> Minimum 62988 89098
>>> Preferred 62988 89098
>>>
>>> Now the bad news: After closing Paris and restarting, I can't get Paris
>> to
>>> open. Instead, I get a warning saying there's insufficient memory and that
>>> clearing the Undo buffer might help. Of course, because Paris doesn't open
>>> I can't unclear the Undo buffer. And because Paris isn't opening, I can't
>>> revert or tweak Paris' Disk I/O, Disk Cache, and Overview Cache settings,
>>> either.
>>>
>>> I tried enlarging the Minimum and Preferred settings-that didn't help. I
>>> tried setting my Mac's Memory Control Panel to its largest size (32736k).
>>> I restarted after each adjustment, but neither one helped. Paris still
>> won't
>>> open.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what I should try next? Is there a way to get into the
>> Paris
>>> configuration settings when Paris is not opening?
>>>
>>> Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated. (And please don't tell me I'm an
>>> idiot-I'm already fully aware of that.)
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Richard
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Optimum Paris Configuration Settings [message #100046 is a reply to message #100044] Sun, 17 August 2008 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
http://www.google.com/search?q=mac+text+edit+OS9&rls=com .microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&a mp;startPage=1

another few seconds at google. It's not that hard, really... but I don't own
a mac so I'm not doing the research for it to be honest :)

AA


"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:C4CDA1AB.3C10%lendan@bigpond.net.au...
> But ....
> Textwrangler needs 10.4. To run..
>
> Martin H
>
>
> On 17/08/08 7:41 AM, in article 48a74b48$1@linux, "Aaron Allen"
> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>> a few seconds on google turned up this alternative, since BBE has been
>> dropped. Give it a try!
>>
>> http://www.barebones.com/products/bblite/index.shtml replaced with:
>>
>> http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/index.shtml
>>
>> http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/download.shtm l
>>
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:48a74825$1@linux...
>>>
>>> This is Richard with additional info: Just read this in the Paris
>>> manual:
>>> "Warning: Don't set the Disk Cache too high. If you set it higher than
>>> the
>>> available amount of memory in your computer, PARIS won't boot! (The .cfg
>>> file will most likely need to be replaced if you do this.)
>>>
>>> So perhaps this means that my real question is, "How do you replace the
>>> .cfg
>>> file?" There's nothing in the manual about it.
>>>
>>> I also have this old post that says, "If you are not able to open PARIS
>>> and
>>> need to change the Configuration settings to get Paris to work, use
>>> BBEdit
>>> Lite (available on the net for free) to open the PARIS.cfg file. Make a
>>> backup
>>> of the PARIS.cfg file before you open it. You can change all these
>>> settings
>>> in there, and they're clearly labeled and you don't have to start up
>>> PARIS
>>> to change the settings. Just keep the original text and change the
>>> numbers,
>>> save the file and start up PARIS." However, I can't find a free download
>>> of BBEdit Lite 4.6 on the Internet, perhaps because it's so old now. So
>>> another
>>> question: Does anyone have a copy of BBEdit Lite 4.6 that they could
>>> send
>>> me?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just stumbled upon this user group; had no idea it still existed.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I need some advice regarding configuration settings for running
>>> Paris
>>>> 3.0 (single card) on an Apple G4 Ethernet dual processor running OS
>>>> 9.2.
>>>> (And please forgive me for sounding ignorant because I am.)
>>>>
>>>> Lately, depending on the project, I've gotten memory warnings when
>>>> saving.
>>>> To work around it, I just cleared the Undo buffer within the project
>>>> and
>>>> kept working.
>>>>
>>>> Today I decided to try to optimize my settings. I referred to an old
>>>> user
>>>> group posting that recommended the following and made these changes.
>>>>
>>>> BEFORE AFTER
>>>> Disk I/O 64 128
>>>> Disk Cache 10 80*
>>>> Overview Cache 2048 4000
>>>> Manual Punch Short Long
>>>>
>>>> The Paris manual says that Minimum and Preferred Memory Settings for
>>>> Paris
>>>> be increased by 1200k for every MB that the Disk Cache is increased.
>>>> Since
>>>> I had increased the Disk Cache from 10 to 80MB (an increase of 70MB)
>>>> that
>>>> meant 1200k x 70 = 84000k. But rather than adding that to my previous
>>>> minimum
>>>> and preferred settings of 62998, I added it to the recommended minimum
>>>> and
>>>> preferred settings of 5098 and ended up at 89098 for both minimum and
>>>> preferred,
>>>> i.e.
>>>> BEFORE AFTER
>>>> Minimum 62988 89098
>>>> Preferred 62988 89098
>>>>
>>>> Now the bad news: After closing Paris and restarting, I can't get Paris
>>> to
>>>> open. Instead, I get a warning saying there's insufficient memory and
>>>> that
>>>> clearing the Undo buffer might help. Of course, because Paris doesn't
>>>> open
>>>> I can't unclear the Undo buffer. And because Paris isn't opening, I
>>>> can't
>>>> revert or tweak Paris' Disk I/O, Disk Cache, and Overview Cache
>>>> settings,
>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>> I tried enlarging the Minimum and Preferred settings-that didn't help.
>>>> I
>>>> tried setting my Mac's Memory Control Panel to its largest size
>>>> (32736k).
>>>> I restarted after each adjustment, but neither one helped. Paris still
>>> won't
>>>> open.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what I should try next? Is there a way to get into the
>>> Paris
>>>> configuration settings when Paris is not opening?
>>>>
>>>> Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated. (And please don't tell me I'm
>>>> an
>>>> idiot-I'm already fully aware of that.)
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Optimum Paris Configuration Settings [message #100047 is a reply to message #100043] Sun, 17 August 2008 04:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
http://www.kfocus.com/paris/

___Setup / XP Setup

and also paris.cfg

Enjoy
Re: Optimum Paris Configuration Settings [message #100075 is a reply to message #100043] Wed, 20 August 2008 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tommy Detamore is currently offline  Tommy Detamore   
Messages: 24
Registered: September 2007
Junior Member
FWIW, whenever I want to monkey with the cfg file, I just change the extension
from .cfg to .txt and open it with Text Edit on the Mac. When I'm done I
change it back to .cfg.......

TD
Re: Optimum Paris Configuration Settings [message #100077 is a reply to message #100075] Wed, 20 August 2008 12:27 Go to previous message
Ted Gerber is currently offline  Ted Gerber   
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
Senior Member
Nice--


Thanks



"Tommy Detamore" <cherryrdg@aol.com> wrote:
>
>FWIW, whenever I want to monkey with the cfg file, I just change the extension
>from .cfg to .txt and open it with Text Edit on the Mac. When I'm done I
>change it back to .cfg.......
>
>TD
>
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