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| Re: New Music Computer Recommendation needed [message #64327 is a reply to message #64315] |
Tue, 07 February 2006 18:32   |
Stephen Stecyk
Messages: 35
Registered: February 2007
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Hi Chris,
I'm running a single CPU Athlon MP 2800 for my Paris rig, and wanted to
upgrade my Nuendo machine (presently running 2 Athlon MP 1900).
I have one RME HDSP 5296 in my Nuendo computer, and have plans on getting
the Lynx AES16 as well. I'm running running one TC Powercore Firewire
between the two computers, with a PowerCore Unplugged in each. The Nuendo
computer is running Windows XP pro. I aslo am running GigaStuiodo from the
Nuendo computer. Primarily, the Nuendo computer will be mixing and editing.
I was thinking Opteron CPU since a lot of music pros I've been reading about
have had great success with them, but I'm not realy too familiar with them.
Do you know what, if any, benefits that I would see going opteron vs Athlon
64 X2? If I did go with Opeteron, should I go dual core? Do you have any
different suggestions? How about mobos?
Stephen
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:43e91e04$1@linux...
> Hi Stephen,
>
> For a single socket CPU system you will be using a Athlon 64 939 pin CPU.
> The dual core version of that is the X2 CPU.
>
> For a Opteron dual socket cpu there are the single core chips up to the
> 254. The dual core Opteron chips start at version 265.
>
> Is this for the Paris? If so it will not work.
>
> If not then it will be easy.
> What software and sound card are you using or plan to use?
> Do you are you planning on using any UAD and/or TC Power core PCI cards?
> Are you doing any sampling/VSTi work or mainly audio mixing and editing?
>
> Feel free to give me a call.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> Stephen Stecyk wrote:
>> I'm in the process of building a new computer, and am in desperate need
>> of some recomendations. I'm was thinking about going AMD Opteron as a
>> CPU, but am unsure if the money would be well spent. Would there be any
>> noticeable differences between the 200 and the 800 series? I'm probably
>> going to go with a single cpu, perhaps a dual core. The whole thing is
>> becoming very confusing. Anybody out there have suggestions? Price
>> isn't too much of an issue, but not total out there.
>>
>> Stephen
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: New Music Computer Recommendation needed [message #64348 is a reply to message #64347] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 05:54 |
Mike Audet
Messages: 294
Registered: December 2008
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Actually, Kim, I'm using a dual Athon just fine. It's just the C16 code that
doesn't like two processors, and I don't have any.
All the best,
Mike
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>No dual processors work with Paris. Indeed as I understand it that's why
>you need to turn Hyperthreading off on P4's... because it's kinda similar
>to dual processors.
>
>The code just doesn't gel with it.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>>Hi Chris,
>>Question: Why does'nt the Dual Core Processors work with Paris?
>>Reason; My Asus N-force 2 board flaked out. So, I just ordered new Gigbyte
>>mobo(939 socket-N-force3) with Dual core Opteron 165..
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>>For a single socket CPU system you will be using a Athlon 64 939 pin
>>>CPU. The dual core version of that is the X2 CPU.
>>>
>>>For a Opteron dual socket cpu there are the single core chips up to the
>>
>>>254. The dual core Opteron chips start at version 265.
>>>
>>>Is this for the Paris? If so it will not work.
>>>
>>>If not then it will be easy.
>>>What software and sound card are you using or plan to use?
>>>Do you are you planning on using any UAD and/or TC Power core PCI cards?
>>>Are you doing any sampling/VSTi work or mainly audio mixing and editing?
>>>
>>>Feel free to give me a call.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Stephen Stecyk wrote:
>>>> I'm in the process of building a new computer, and am in desperate need
>>of
>>>> some recomendations. I'm was thinking about going AMD Opteron as a
CPU,
>>but
>>>> am unsure if the money would be well spent. Would there be any noticeable
>>
>>>> differences between the 200 and the 800 series? I'm probably going
to
>>go
>>>> with a single cpu, perhaps a dual core. The whole thing is becoming
>very
>>
>>>> confusing. Anybody out there have suggestions? Price isn't too much
>>of an
>>>> issue, but not total out there.
>>>>
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>>ADK Pro Audio
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
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| Re: New Music Computer Recommendation needed [message #64351 is a reply to message #64327] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 06:06 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Hi Stephen,
Ahh Ok good. Glad you not trying to get Paris to run on it.
CPU performance between the same clock speed X2 and Opteron chips is
pretty much neck and neck. The benefits on the dual OPteron machines,
multiple PCI busses, faster memory performance. YOu will also be able to
use up to 16 gigs of ram which is nice. You will also be able to use
dual core Opteron chips in it so you will have 4 cpus.
Nuendo will not be able to use the Lynx and RME at the same time so I'm
not sure what you plan is with that. If you occasionally need to use AES
you would be better of just getting a RME DD4 or DD8 format converter
for that. Also expect Gigastudio to give you some headaches also sense
it doesn't properly support dual cpus. It will work but I would expect
so growing pains. The TC should be fine with this setup.
I would not do the Dual core Opterons is you are using Gigastudio. If
you don't use Giga then go for it is you can afford it. NUendo will use
all four cpus.
The only motherboards for the Opterons worth getting are the TYan s2885
and s2895 models. If you are gonn use duak core cous then you will wanna
get the Zalman 9500 heat sinks. Also only use you memory in groups of 4
i.e., 2 gigs = 4x 512, 4 gigs = 4x 1024 ram. YOu will get NUMA memory
support which give you 10gigs/sec instead of the normal 5 gigs.
Oh and at least a 550 watt EPS power supply. YOu also have to use XP SP2
on the OPterons to get the most out of them for the memory support.
Chris
Stephen Stecyk wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I'm running a single CPU Athlon MP 2800 for my Paris rig, and wanted to
> upgrade my Nuendo machine (presently running 2 Athlon MP 1900).
>
> I have one RME HDSP 5296 in my Nuendo computer, and have plans on getting
> the Lynx AES16 as well. I'm running running one TC Powercore Firewire
> between the two computers, with a PowerCore Unplugged in each. The Nuendo
> computer is running Windows XP pro. I aslo am running GigaStuiodo from the
> Nuendo computer. Primarily, the Nuendo computer will be mixing and editing.
>
> I was thinking Opteron CPU since a lot of music pros I've been reading about
> have had great success with them, but I'm not realy too familiar with them.
> Do you know what, if any, benefits that I would see going opteron vs Athlon
> 64 X2? If I did go with Opeteron, should I go dual core? Do you have any
> different suggestions? How about mobos?
>
> Stephen
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:43e91e04$1@linux...
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>>Hi Stephen,
>>
>>For a single socket CPU system you will be using a Athlon 64 939 pin CPU.
>>The dual core version of that is the X2 CPU.
>>
>>For a Opteron dual socket cpu there are the single core chips up to the
>>254. The dual core Opteron chips start at version 265.
>>
>>Is this for the Paris? If so it will not work.
>>
>>If not then it will be easy.
>>What software and sound card are you using or plan to use?
>>Do you are you planning on using any UAD and/or TC Power core PCI cards?
>>Are you doing any sampling/VSTi work or mainly audio mixing and editing?
>>
>>Feel free to give me a call.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Stephen Stecyk wrote:
>>
>>>I'm in the process of building a new computer, and am in desperate need
>>>of some recomendations. I'm was thinking about going AMD Opteron as a
>>>CPU, but am unsure if the money would be well spent. Would there be any
>>>noticeable differences between the 200 and the 800 series? I'm probably
>>>going to go with a single cpu, perhaps a dual core. The whole thing is
>>>becoming very confusing. Anybody out there have suggestions? Price
>>>isn't too much of an issue, but not total out there.
>>>
>>>Stephen
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>
>>ADK Pro Audio
>>(859) 635-5762
>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: New Music Computer Recommendation needed [message #64358 is a reply to message #64352] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 09:52 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Thanks Chris,
Actually I ordered a Opteron Dual core 165, not a X2-dual core. The Opteron
should work, since it's a 939 socket??
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI,
>C-16 issues mostly.
>If you are using the new board make sure you flash to newest bios as
>soon as you get windows installed. Also use the newest Nvidia chipset
>drivers from Nvidias web site. You will need to use the AMD X2 processor
>driver also.
>
>You should check the new board for any signs of it being a refurb. The
>Nforce 3 boards have been out of production for almost a year. Pretty
>much vendors are just sell thru left over stock and getting refurbs from
>Gigabyte.
>
>Chris
>
>
>LaMont wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris,
>> Question: Why does'nt the Dual Core Processors work with Paris?
>> Reason; My Asus N-force 2 board flaked out. So, I just ordered new Gigbyte
>> mobo(939 socket-N-force3) with Dual core Opteron 165..
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>>For a single socket CPU system you will be using a Athlon 64 939 pin
>>>CPU. The dual core version of that is the X2 CPU.
>>>
>>>For a Opteron dual socket cpu there are the single core chips up to the
>>
>>
>>>254. The dual core Opteron chips start at version 265.
>>>
>>>Is this for the Paris? If so it will not work.
>>>
>>>If not then it will be easy.
>>>What software and sound card are you using or plan to use?
>>>Do you are you planning on using any UAD and/or TC Power core PCI cards?
>>>Are you doing any sampling/VSTi work or mainly audio mixing and editing?
>>>
>>>Feel free to give me a call.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Stephen Stecyk wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm in the process of building a new computer, and am in desperate need
>>
>> of
>>
>>>>some recomendations. I'm was thinking about going AMD Opteron as a CPU,
>>
>> but
>>
>>>>am unsure if the money would be well spent. Would there be any noticeable
>>
>>
>>>>differences between the 200 and the 800 series? I'm probably going to
>>
>> go
>>
>>>>with a single cpu, perhaps a dual core. The whole thing is becoming
very
>>
>>
>>>>confusing. Anybody out there have suggestions? Price isn't too much
>>
>> of an
>>
>>>>issue, but not total out there.
>>>>
>>>>Stephen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>>ADK Pro Audio
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
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| Re: New Music Computer Recommendation needed [message #64361 is a reply to message #64358] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 10:19 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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HI Lamont,
That chip will work on the 939 mobos but you will still have to make
sure you update the BIOS.
Chris
LaMont wrote:
> Thanks Chris,
> Actually I ordered a Opteron Dual core 165, not a X2-dual core. The Opteron
> should work, since it's a 939 socket??
>
>
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> HI,
>> C-16 issues mostly.
>> If you are using the new board make sure you flash to newest bios as
>> soon as you get windows installed. Also use the newest Nvidia chipset
>> drivers from Nvidias web site. You will need to use the AMD X2 processor
>
>> driver also.
>>
>> You should check the new board for any signs of it being a refurb. The
>> Nforce 3 boards have been out of production for almost a year. Pretty
>> much vendors are just sell thru left over stock and getting refurbs from
>
>> Gigabyte.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> LaMont wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> Question: Why does'nt the Dual Core Processors work with Paris?
>>> Reason; My Asus N-force 2 board flaked out. So, I just ordered new Gigbyte
>>> mobo(939 socket-N-force3) with Dual core Opteron 165..
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>
>>>> For a single socket CPU system you will be using a Athlon 64 939 pin
>>>> CPU. The dual core version of that is the X2 CPU.
>>>>
>>>> For a Opteron dual socket cpu there are the single core chips up to the
>>>
>>>> 254. The dual core Opteron chips start at version 265.
>>>>
>>>> Is this for the Paris? If so it will not work.
>>>>
>>>> If not then it will be easy.
>>>> What software and sound card are you using or plan to use?
>>>> Do you are you planning on using any UAD and/or TC Power core PCI cards?
>>>> Are you doing any sampling/VSTi work or mainly audio mixing and editing?
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to give me a call.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stephen Stecyk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm in the process of building a new computer, and am in desperate need
>>> of
>>>
>>>>> some recomendations. I'm was thinking about going AMD Opteron as a CPU,
>>> but
>>>
>>>>> am unsure if the money would be well spent. Would there be any noticeable
>>>
>>>>> differences between the 200 and the 800 series? I'm probably going to
>>> go
>>>
>>>>> with a single cpu, perhaps a dual core. The whole thing is becoming
> very
>>>
>>>>> confusing. Anybody out there have suggestions? Price isn't too much
>>> of an
>>>
>>>>> issue, but not total out there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>
>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: New Music Computer Recommendation needed [message #64375 is a reply to message #64361] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 13:10 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Thanks!!
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Lamont,
>That chip will work on the 939 mobos but you will still have to make
>sure you update the BIOS.
>
>Chris
>
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> Thanks Chris,
>> Actually I ordered a Opteron Dual core 165, not a X2-dual core. The Opteron
>> should work, since it's a 939 socket??
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>> HI,
>>> C-16 issues mostly.
>>> If you are using the new board make sure you flash to newest bios as
>>> soon as you get windows installed. Also use the newest Nvidia chipset
>>> drivers from Nvidias web site. You will need to use the AMD X2 processor
>>
>>> driver also.
>>>
>>> You should check the new board for any signs of it being a refurb. The
>>> Nforce 3 boards have been out of production for almost a year. Pretty
>>> much vendors are just sell thru left over stock and getting refurbs from
>>
>>> Gigabyte.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> Question: Why does'nt the Dual Core Processors work with Paris?
>>>> Reason; My Asus N-force 2 board flaked out. So, I just ordered new Gigbyte
>>>> mobo(939 socket-N-force3) with Dual core Opteron 165..
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>
>>>>> For a single socket CPU system you will be using a Athlon 64 939 pin
>>>>> CPU. The dual core version of that is the X2 CPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> For a Opteron dual socket cpu there are the single core chips up to
the
>>>>
>>>>> 254. The dual core Opteron chips start at version 265.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this for the Paris? If so it will not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> If not then it will be easy.
>>>>> What software and sound card are you using or plan to use?
>>>>> Do you are you planning on using any UAD and/or TC Power core PCI cards?
>>>>> Are you doing any sampling/VSTi work or mainly audio mixing and editing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to give me a call.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen Stecyk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm in the process of building a new computer, and am in desperate
need
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>>> some recomendations. I'm was thinking about going AMD Opteron as
a CPU,
>>>> but
>>>>
>>>>>> am unsure if the money would be well spent. Would there be any noticeable
>>>>
>>>>>> differences between the 200 and the 800 series? I'm probably going
to
>>>> go
>>>>
>>>>>> with a single cpu, perhaps a dual core. The whole thing is becoming
>> very
>>>>
>>>>>> confusing. Anybody out there have suggestions? Price isn't too much
>>>> of an
>>>>
>>>>>> issue, but not total out there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>
>>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>> ADK
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: New Music Computer Recommendation needed [message #64390 is a reply to message #64351] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 16:37 |
Stephen Stecyk
Messages: 35
Registered: February 2007
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Hi Chris,
First of all, thanks so very much for taking the time to enlighten me - it
is GREATLY appreciated.
I checked out the Tyan mobos, and like the looks of the S2895, but am unsure
if that is the way to go due to the 2 PCI-E slots. I am extremely out of
the loop with PCI-E, except to know that it allows for killer graphics. I
assume that PCI-E is not backwards compatible with PCI. I just don't wan't
to be losing out on slots if I don't have to, or have to put everything into
my Magma chassis. Then again, I don't have to install a SCSI320 or Sata
card or USB 2.0 or Firewire Card, so I guess I should count myself lucky. I
guess your're damn if you do, damned if you don't. :)
Stephen
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:43e9fc12$1@linux...
> Hi Stephen,
> Ahh Ok good. Glad you not trying to get Paris to run on it.
> CPU performance between the same clock speed X2 and Opteron chips is
> pretty much neck and neck. The benefits on the dual OPteron machines,
> multiple PCI busses, faster memory performance. YOu will also be able to
> use up to 16 gigs of ram which is nice. You will also be able to use dual
> core Opteron chips in it so you will have 4 cpus.
>
> Nuendo will not be able to use the Lynx and RME at the same time so I'm
> not sure what you plan is with that. If you occasionally need to use AES
> you would be better of just getting a RME DD4 or DD8 format converter for
> that. Also expect Gigastudio to give you some headaches also sense it
> doesn't properly support dual cpus. It will work but I would expect so
> growing pains. The TC should be fine with this setup.
>
> I would not do the Dual core Opterons is you are using Gigastudio. If you
> don't use Giga then go for it is you can afford it. NUendo will use all
> four cpus.
>
> The only motherboards for the Opterons worth getting are the TYan s2885
> and s2895 models. If you are gonn use duak core cous then you will wanna
> get the Zalman 9500 heat sinks. Also only use you memory in groups of 4
> i.e., 2 gigs = 4x 512, 4 gigs = 4x 1024 ram. YOu will get NUMA memory
> support which give you 10gigs/sec instead of the normal 5 gigs.
> Oh and at least a 550 watt EPS power supply. YOu also have to use XP SP2
> on the OPterons to get the most out of them for the memory support.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Stephen Stecyk wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> I'm running a single CPU Athlon MP 2800 for my Paris rig, and wanted to
>> upgrade my Nuendo machine (presently running 2 Athlon MP 1900).
>>
>> I have one RME HDSP 5296 in my Nuendo computer, and have plans on getting
>> the Lynx AES16 as well. I'm running running one TC Powercore Firewire
>> between the two computers, with a PowerCore Unplugged in each. The
>> Nuendo computer is running Windows XP pro. I aslo am running GigaStuiodo
>> from the Nuendo computer. Primarily, the Nuendo computer will be mixing
>> and editing.
>>
>> I was thinking Opteron CPU since a lot of music pros I've been reading
>> about have had great success with them, but I'm not realy too familiar
>> with them. Do you know what, if any, benefits that I would see going
>> opteron vs Athlon 64 X2? If I did go with Opeteron, should I go dual
>> core? Do you have any different suggestions? How about mobos?
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:43e91e04$1@linux...
>>
>>>Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>>For a single socket CPU system you will be using a Athlon 64 939 pin CPU.
>>>The dual core version of that is the X2 CPU.
>>>
>>>For a Opteron dual socket cpu there are the single core chips up to the
>>>254. The dual core Opteron chips start at version 265.
>>>
>>>Is this for the Paris? If so it will not work.
>>>
>>>If not then it will be easy.
>>>What software and sound card are you using or plan to use?
>>>Do you are you planning on using any UAD and/or TC Power core PCI cards?
>>>Are you doing any sampling/VSTi work or mainly audio mixing and editing?
>>>
>>>Feel free to give me a call.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Stephen Stecyk wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm in the process of building a new computer, and am in desperate need
>>>>of some recomendations. I'm was thinking about going AMD Opteron as a
>>>>CPU, but am unsure if the money would be well spent. Would there be any
>>>>noticeable differences between the 200 and the 800 series? I'm probably
>>>>going to go with a single cpu, perhaps a dual core. The whole thing is
>>>>becoming very confusing. Anybody out there have suggestions? Price
>>>>isn't too much of an issue, but not total out there.
>>>>
>>>>Stephen
>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>>ADK Pro Audio
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
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| Re: New Music Computer Recommendation needed [message #64393 is a reply to message #64390] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 17:34 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Hi Stephen,
PCI-E is/will be the replacement for PCI. It has a much higher bandwidth
than PCI or PCI-X. YOu'll mainly see high powered devices like video,
audio and drive controllers being used for PCI-E slots. Magma is
releaseing a PCI-E to PCI card for use with the current Magmas. It still
in the testing stages though. Most all sound card and DSP card makers
will see PCI-E version of current stuff and/or new devices all together
by the end of the year.
I would advice getting the version of the boartd without the on board
SCSI if you really need to have SCSI us your card or get one of the new
PCI-E based ones. The on board SATA controller work great.
Chris
Stephen Stecyk wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> First of all, thanks so very much for taking the time to enlighten me - it
> is GREATLY appreciated.
>
> I checked out the Tyan mobos, and like the looks of the S2895, but am unsure
> if that is the way to go due to the 2 PCI-E slots. I am extremely out of
> the loop with PCI-E, except to know that it allows for killer graphics. I
> assume that PCI-E is not backwards compatible with PCI. I just don't wan't
> to be losing out on slots if I don't have to, or have to put everything into
> my Magma chassis. Then again, I don't have to install a SCSI320 or Sata
> card or USB 2.0 or Firewire Card, so I guess I should count myself lucky. I
> guess your're damn if you do, damned if you don't. :)
>
> Stephen
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:43e9fc12$1@linux...
>
>>Hi Stephen,
>>Ahh Ok good. Glad you not trying to get Paris to run on it.
>>CPU performance between the same clock speed X2 and Opteron chips is
>>pretty much neck and neck. The benefits on the dual OPteron machines,
>>multiple PCI busses, faster memory performance. YOu will also be able to
>>use up to 16 gigs of ram which is nice. You will also be able to use dual
>>core Opteron chips in it so you will have 4 cpus.
>>
>>Nuendo will not be able to use the Lynx and RME at the same time so I'm
>>not sure what you plan is with that. If you occasionally need to use AES
>>you would be better of just getting a RME DD4 or DD8 format converter for
>>that. Also expect Gigastudio to give you some headaches also sense it
>>doesn't properly support dual cpus. It will work but I would expect so
>>growing pains. The TC should be fine with this setup.
>>
>>I would not do the Dual core Opterons is you are using Gigastudio. If you
>>don't use Giga then go for it is you can afford it. NUendo will use all
>>four cpus.
>>
>>The only motherboards for the Opterons worth getting are the TYan s2885
>>and s2895 models. If you are gonn use duak core cous then you will wanna
>>get the Zalman 9500 heat sinks. Also only use you memory in groups of 4
>>i.e., 2 gigs = 4x 512, 4 gigs = 4x 1024 ram. YOu will get NUMA memory
>>support which give you 10gigs/sec instead of the normal 5 gigs.
>>Oh and at least a 550 watt EPS power supply. YOu also have to use XP SP2
>>on the OPterons to get the most out of them for the memory support.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>Stephen Stecyk wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Chris,
>>>
>>>I'm running a single CPU Athlon MP 2800 for my Paris rig, and wanted to
>>>upgrade my Nuendo machine (presently running 2 Athlon MP 1900).
>>>
>>>I have one RME HDSP 5296 in my Nuendo computer, and have plans on getting
>>>the Lynx AES16 as well. I'm running running one TC Powercore Firewire
>>>between the two computers, with a PowerCore Unplugged in each. The
>>>Nuendo computer is running Windows XP pro. I aslo am running GigaStuiodo
>>>from the Nuendo computer. Primarily, the Nuendo computer will be mixing
>>>and editing.
>>>
>>>I was thinking Opteron CPU since a lot of music pros I've been reading
>>>about have had great success with them, but I'm not realy too familiar
>>>with them. Do you know what, if any, benefits that I would see going
>>>opteron vs Athlon 64 X2? If I did go with Opeteron, should I go dual
>>>core? Do you have any different suggestions? How about mobos?
>>>
>>>Stephen
>>>
>>>
>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>news:43e91e04$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Stephen,
>>>>
>>>>For a single socket CPU system you will be using a Athlon 64 939 pin CPU.
>>>>The dual core version of that is the X2 CPU.
>>>>
>>>>For a Opteron dual socket cpu there are the single core chips up to the
>>>>254. The dual core Opteron chips start at version 265.
>>>>
>>>>Is this for the Paris? If so it will not work.
>>>>
>>>>If not then it will be easy.
>>>>What software and sound card are you using or plan to use?
>>>>Do you are you planning on using any UAD and/or TC Power core PCI cards?
>>>>Are you doing any sampling/VSTi work or mainly audio mixing and editing?
>>>>
>>>>Feel free to give me a call.
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Stephen Stecyk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm in the process of building a new computer, and am in desperate need
>>>>>of some recomendations. I'm was thinking about going AMD Opteron as a
>>>>>CPU, but am unsure if the money would be well spent. Would there be any
>>>>>noticeable differences between the 200 and the 800 series? I'm probably
>>>>>going to go with a single cpu, perhaps a dual core. The whole thing is
>>>>>becoming very confusing. Anybody out there have suggestions? Price
>>>>>isn't too much of an issue, but not total out there.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stephen
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>
>>>>ADK Pro Audio
>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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