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Re: Pinging Rod Lincoln, Dimitrios or any wrapper/chainer users [message #103322 is a reply to message #103257] Wed, 29 April 2009 02:34 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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For whatever reason enabling DX and removing the VST folder is Paris config
turns my Paris start up into a nightmare of pop up error windows so I went
back to disabling DX and pointing Paris to my VST folder to take care of
things.

I'm not really happy with that ugly tan coloured interface that accompanies
each plugin as it eats up a lot of landscape on my monitors but if that's
the price I have to pay so be it...I'll get used to it in time.

I'm also using Faderworks in slot one and so far it's doing the job nicely.




"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f5e059$1@linux...
> Thanks guys...gonna give it a go this afternoon
>
> Living dangerously
>
> Don
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49f5cff2@linux...
>> Hey Don,
>>
>> Glad to hear things are coming together for you!
>>
>> When you open the native plugins list there's a little stereo box you
>> can check in the lower left hand corner. It chooses the
>> track to the right as the right channel. Sometimes Paris doesn't like
>> using paris mono effects with stereo natives though. It's helpful
>> to have the audio on the stereo tracks be exactly the same length
>> and with no edits. Sometimes it doesn't matter regarding the edits.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:49f59491$1@linux...
>>> So now the dumb question
>>>
>>> How does one use stereo plugins in Paris or is it possible?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message news:49f56be2@linux...
>>>> Yes, it's both mono and stereo. In stereo, if I remember correct, Paris
>>>> must use channels 1-2, 3-4 and up as pair, not 2-3, 4-5 and up. But I
>>>> believe that's the way Paris allways have worked with plugins in stereo
>>>> channels.
>>>>
>>>> Good to hear your system now is stable and working as you wish and your
>>>> wife didn't need to call an ambulance yesterday;-)
>>>>
>>>> Erling
>>>>
>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>> news:49f4efc0@linux...
>>>>> That Xlutop chainer looks pretty impressive...does it do both mono and
>>>>> stereo plugs because the FFX4 is either mono or stereo.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also tried Dimitrios' Avcon Digital and it seemed to do the trick
>>>>> (at first glance) and I'll be looking at it again this evening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bottom line is I have a stable setup, all the plugs are playing nice
>>>>> with each other and I even have two ways to deal with latency, i.e.
>>>>> Faderworks and Sample slide - both have their pros and cons but both
>>>>> will be used.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to all who called and submitted replies. You helped remove that
>>>>> insane look in my eyes which had my wife seriously worried yesterday
>>>>>
>>>>> hehehe
>>>>>
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49f4dc55@linux...
>>>>>> Jeff, it seems to be different ways to do this. I just know that I
>>>>>> have never disabled DirectX in Paris when using FXpansion 3.3 wrapper
>>>>>> in combination with "Xlutop Chainer". For me, it seems real logical,
>>>>>> since FXpansion VST-DX Adapter/Wrapper is a DX plugin, that need an
>>>>>> opn DX line to be used - and Chainer is a VST host that can show up
>>>>>> VST plugins with the help of FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>> The thing I remember making problems for me, was when Paris used its
>>>>>> own VSTfolder in combination with FX and Chainer. Therefore I allways
>>>>>> have VST folder in Paris.cfg disabled, so it is only Chainer that can
>>>>>> find the VST plugin folder in Steinberg and FXpansion 3.3 to find the
>>>>>> Chainer.exe folder, that knows where the VST plugins are.
>>>>>> I don't use FFX4 at all because I know "Xlutop Chainer" could open
>>>>>> much more VST plugins on each Paris-channel for me. I have used this
>>>>>> combination since Dimitros talked about "Xlutop Chainer" here - I
>>>>>> believe it must be 6-7 years now - and I have been really happy with
>>>>>> that "FXpansion 3.3-Xlutop Chainer"combination to use my VST plugins.
>>>>>> I also know it's working well with Paris and my AMD Quad computer in
>>>>>> Norway, with Mike Audet's new drivers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know we have written about wrapper combinations here up against the
>>>>>> years, so if the archives are doing well and going back to the
>>>>>> beginning of this century, it could be found something about it with
>>>>>> some searching.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But as said, it seems to be different ways to do this. If it workes,
>>>>>> it workes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>> news:49f4c405$1@linux...
>>>>>>> THe way I remember it is a little different:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Disable Directx
>>>>>>> -Put your wrapper and Faderworks in the VST folder identified in the
>>>>>>> paris.cfg file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fire up Paris. You should be able to see the wrapper and
>>>>>>> Fadersworks as native plugs. Load any dx/other vst plugs you want
>>>>>>> in the wrapper. Set your delays in Faderworks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I remember, TOm Bruhl is the one acutally utilizing this most (my
>>>>>>> rig is put away right now), so you might ping him specifically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Erling wrote:
>>>>>>>> Don, are we talking about the same type of Chainer? FFX4 Chainer,
>>>>>>>> isn't it Vince Burel's VST to DX wrapper?
>>>>>>>> I'm talking about this Chainer:
>>>>>>>> http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html in combination with
>>>>>>>> FXpansion 3.3.
>>>>>>>> Be sure there isn't any VST folder opened in Paris config file,
>>>>>>>> it's just the Chainer who shall know that folder. I believe DirectX
>>>>>>>> shall be enabled. You see FXpansion or FFX4 are making VST to DX,
>>>>>>>> so I believe Paris should have DirectX enabled so the wrappers can
>>>>>>>> find Paris as a DX user.
>>>>>>>> I havn't used Faderworks but if it's a VSTplugin, I believe it
>>>>>>>> shall be in the VST folder so Chainer can find and use it the way
>>>>>>>> you want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>> news:49f4ab69@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks Erling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Right now the UAD plugs are in my Steinberg VST plugin folder
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>DirectX is disabled in Paris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>FXpansion wrapper is pointed to that folder and finds the UAD
>>>>>>>>>plugins no problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Now do I install FFX4 chainer in the steinberg VST folder or just
>>>>>>>>>install it where it want's to go and copy over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and if I want to use Faderworks, does it also get installed into
>>>>>>>>>that folder or do I just install it where it want's to go and copy
>>>>>>>>>over the DLLs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance to any human who'd care to talk to me in person
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:49f4a73e@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Don, I am in Denmark right now, without my Paris system but I
>>>>>>>>>>think I remember how to setup FXpansion and Chainer to work in a
>>>>>>>>>>good way. Don't use any Paris VST folder, just let FXpansion find
>>>>>>>>>>Chainer and Chainer to find Steinberg/Cubase VST map. Then you can
>>>>>>>>>>open Chainer in Paris VST/DX and use your VST plugins there, as
>>>>>>>>>>far as I remember. I used my UAD card this way in Paris some years
>>>>>>>>>>ago.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Good luck
>>>>>>>>>>Erling
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>>>>>news:49f478da@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Need advice
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I've instlled my two UAD cards and a few other VST and DX plugs
>>>>>>>>>>>on my Paris rig
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I also installed the FXpansion wrapper, Faderworks, Sampleslide,
>>>>>>>>>>>FFX4 Chainer and Avcon Digital's Chainer but something is wonky
>>>>>>>>>>>in my setup and it's probably my fault but I need to get this
>>>>>>>>>>>sorted out soon. I have since uninstalled everything except my
>>>>>>>>>>>UAD cards and am back to square one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>a blank canvass so to speak
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>if it's possible and convenient a phone call or skype chat would
>>>>>>>>>>>be great and if you're up for it email me your phone # or Skype
>>>>>>>>>>>ID and I'll get back to you pronto
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What I NEED to know is where do I install the all these goodies
>>>>>>>>>>>on my computer?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If I use the wrapper Dimitrios suggested (Avcon Digital) do I
>>>>>>>>>>>need the Fxpansion wrapper
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If I use FFX4Chainer why are some of my DX plugs not showing up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>any and all help would be greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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