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| Presonus Digimax FS [message #86490] |
Tue, 12 June 2007 09:09  |
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Anyone have any experience w/ these? I'm thinking about picking up a used
one for doing remote recording. It has direct analog outs and ADAT outs
but if I run the 24 bit outs of the Digimax into Paris' ADAT card I'll lose
4 bits. Do you think anyone will notice? I could also just run the direct
outs into Paris' AD converters...
Gantt
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86495 is a reply to message #86494] |
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wireline[18]
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To answer your other question, I have used a Digimax a time or two, and was
not overly impressed nor overly disappointed...they don't shine, but they
don't suck too badly either. I would guess if someone is essentially giving
it away for a stupid cheap price, buy it - if it doesn't work out, sell it
to a live sound company using only Mackie or B***inger stuff.
"wireline" <nospam@dogbreath.gov> wrote:
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>OT to your question, but..
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>Not sure I follow why you would lose 4 bits...ADAT is ADAT, and to the best
>of my knowledge there are no ADDA convertors that go above 24 bit...can
you
>elaborate on how/where you would lose bit information?
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>FYI: 20bit recordings have a dynamic range around 106 db or so...far greater
>than CDs, tape, etc, so the only one who would really notice would be you,
>and then only if you looked at your bit metering....
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>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>Anyone have any experience w/ these? I'm thinking about picking up a used
>>one for doing remote recording. It has direct analog outs and ADAT outs
>>but if I run the 24 bit outs of the Digimax into Paris' ADAT card I'll
lose
>>4 bits. Do you think anyone will notice? I could also just run the direct
>>outs into Paris' AD converters...
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>>Gantt
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86496 is a reply to message #86494] |
Tue, 12 June 2007 11:11 |
wireline[18]
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To answer your other question, I have used a Digimax a time or two, and was
not overly impressed nor overly disappointed...they don't shine, but they
don't suck too badly either. I would guess if someone is essentially giving
it away for a stupid cheap price, buy it - if it doesn't work out, sell it
to a live sound company using only Mackie or B***inger stuff.
"wireline" <nospam@dogbreath.gov> wrote:
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>OT to your question, but..
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>Not sure I follow why you would lose 4 bits...ADAT is ADAT, and to the best
>of my knowledge there are no ADDA convertors that go above 24 bit...can
you
>elaborate on how/where you would lose bit information?
>
>FYI: 20bit recordings have a dynamic range around 106 db or so...far greater
>than CDs, tape, etc, so the only one who would really notice would be you,
>and then only if you looked at your bit metering....
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>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Anyone have any experience w/ these? I'm thinking about picking up a used
>>one for doing remote recording. It has direct analog outs and ADAT outs
>>but if I run the 24 bit outs of the Digimax into Paris' ADAT card I'll
lose
>>4 bits. Do you think anyone will notice? I could also just run the direct
>>outs into Paris' AD converters...
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>>Gantt
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86498 is a reply to message #86494] |
Tue, 12 June 2007 11:48 |
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The Paris ADAT cards only pass 20 bits. Trying to send 24 bits thru them
would truncate each digital word to 20 bits. The question is whether or
not the low level info that lives in the least significant 4 bits is noticably
to anyone besides newborn children and dogs (none of whom would probably
care!).
gantt
"wireline" <nospam@dogbreath.gov> wrote:
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>OT to your question, but..
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>Not sure I follow why you would lose 4 bits...ADAT is ADAT, and to the best
>of my knowledge there are no ADDA convertors that go above 24 bit...can
you
>elaborate on how/where you would lose bit information?
>
>FYI: 20bit recordings have a dynamic range around 106 db or so...far greater
>than CDs, tape, etc, so the only one who would really notice would be you,
>and then only if you looked at your bit metering....
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>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>Anyone have any experience w/ these? I'm thinking about picking up a used
>>one for doing remote recording. It has direct analog outs and ADAT outs
>>but if I run the 24 bit outs of the Digimax into Paris' ADAT card I'll
lose
>>4 bits. Do you think anyone will notice? I could also just run the direct
>>outs into Paris' AD converters...
>>
>>Gantt
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Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86499 is a reply to message #86496] |
Tue, 12 June 2007 11:49 |
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So how does it compare, for example, w/ Mackie mic preamps? My usual remote
mic pre is my old Mackie 1202 (pre VLZ).
Gantt
"wireline" <nospam@soundtracsconsoleskickass.gov> wrote:
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>To answer your other question, I have used a Digimax a time or two, and
was
>not overly impressed nor overly disappointed...they don't shine, but they
>don't suck too badly either. I would guess if someone is essentially giving
>it away for a stupid cheap price, buy it - if it doesn't work out, sell
it
>to a live sound company using only Mackie or B***inger stuff.
>
>"wireline" <nospam@dogbreath.gov> wrote:
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>>OT to your question, but..
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>>Not sure I follow why you would lose 4 bits...ADAT is ADAT, and to the
best
>>of my knowledge there are no ADDA convertors that go above 24 bit...can
>you
>>elaborate on how/where you would lose bit information?
>>
>>FYI: 20bit recordings have a dynamic range around 106 db or so...far greater
>>than CDs, tape, etc, so the only one who would really notice would be you,
>>and then only if you looked at your bit metering....
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>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>>Anyone have any experience w/ these? I'm thinking about picking up a
used
>>>one for doing remote recording. It has direct analog outs and ADAT outs
>>>but if I run the 24 bit outs of the Digimax into Paris' ADAT card I'll
>lose
>>>4 bits. Do you think anyone will notice? I could also just run the direct
>>>outs into Paris' AD converters...
>>>
>>>Gantt
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Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86501 is a reply to message #86498] |
Tue, 12 June 2007 11:50 |
brandon[2]
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Gantt,
I got the non firewire presonus Digimax.
I purposely got the non because there was much talk of
major bugs with the FS. Drivers weren't allowing complete
utilization and many bugs.
I can't remember exaclt, but I didn't like what I heard.
They may have fixed the issues by now I don't know.
I am sure you can find a forum somewhere that is discussing it.
Sorry couldn't be more informative.
I haven't had a problem with my Presonus.
Works fine.
Clocks to the MOTU 8pre via lightpipe no prob.
Brandon
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:466eea7e@linux...
The Paris ADAT cards only pass 20 bits. Trying to send 24 bits thru =
them
would truncate each digital word to 20 bits. The question is whether =
or
not the low level info that lives in the least significant 4 bits is =
noticably
to anyone besides newborn children and dogs (none of whom would =
probably
care!).
gantt
"wireline" <nospam@dogbreath.gov> wrote:
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>OT to your question, but..
>
>Not sure I follow why you would lose 4 bits...ADAT is ADAT, and to =
the best
>of my knowledge there are no ADDA convertors that go above 24 =
bit...can
you
>elaborate on how/where you would lose bit information?
>
>FYI: 20bit recordings have a dynamic range around 106 db or so...far =
greater
>than CDs, tape, etc, so the only one who would really notice would be =
you,
>and then only if you looked at your bit metering....
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>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>Anyone have any experience w/ these? I'm thinking about picking up =
a used
>>one for doing remote recording. It has direct analog outs and ADAT =
outs
>>but if I run the 24 bit outs of the Digimax into Paris' ADAT card =
I'll
lose
>>4 bits. Do you think anyone will notice? I could also just run the =
direct
>>outs into Paris' AD converters...
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>>Gantt
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Gantt,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I got the non firewire presonus =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I purposely got the non because there was much =
talk=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>major bugs with the FS. Drivers weren't allowing =
complete</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>utilization and many bugs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I can't remember exaclt, but I didn't like what =
I=20
heard.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>They may have fixed the issues by now I don't=20
know.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I am sure you can find a forum somewhere that is =
discussing it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Sorry couldn't be more informative.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I haven't had a problem with my =
Presonus.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Works fine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Clocks to the MOTU 8pre via lightpipe no=20
prob.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Brandon</DIV>
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86503 is a reply to message #86501] |
Tue, 12 June 2007 12:56 |
Cujjo
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I assited on a remote recording a few weeks ago fro the band Keene. The truck
had 4 or 5 Digimax and one RME Midi Controlled 8 channel nit.
I was pretty impressed by the play back I heard, the engineer seemed to think
they were pretty hearty for mobile use. One did go was not getting signal
before sound check, so we popped it open and saw a small ribbon cable had
come loose! he plugged it back in and was good to go.
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>Gantt,
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>I got the non firewire presonus Digimax.
>I purposely got the non because there was much talk of
>major bugs with the FS. Drivers weren't allowing complete
>utilization and many bugs.
>I can't remember exaclt, but I didn't like what I heard.
>They may have fixed the issues by now I don't know.
>I am sure you can find a forum somewhere that is discussing it.
>Sorry couldn't be more informative.
>I haven't had a problem with my Presonus.
>Works fine.
>Clocks to the MOTU 8pre via lightpipe no prob.
>
>
>
>Brandon
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:466eea7e@linux...
>
> The Paris ADAT cards only pass 20 bits. Trying to send 24 bits thru =
>them
> would truncate each digital word to 20 bits. The question is whether
=
>or
> not the low level info that lives in the least significant 4 bits is =
>noticably
> to anyone besides newborn children and dogs (none of whom would =
>probably
> care!).
>
> gantt
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> "wireline" <nospam@dogbreath.gov> wrote:
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> >OT to your question, but..
> >
> >Not sure I follow why you would lose 4 bits...ADAT is ADAT, and to =
>the best
> >of my knowledge there are no ADDA convertors that go above 24 =
>bit...can
> you
> >elaborate on how/where you would lose bit information?
> >
> >FYI: 20bit recordings have a dynamic range around 106 db or so...far
=
>greater
> >than CDs, tape, etc, so the only one who would really notice would be
=
>you,
> >and then only if you looked at your bit metering....
> >
> >
> >
> >"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>Anyone have any experience w/ these? I'm thinking about picking up
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>a used
> >>one for doing remote recording. It has direct analog outs and ADAT
=
>outs
> >>but if I run the 24 bit outs of the Digimax into Paris' ADAT card =
>I'll
> lose
> >>4 bits. Do you think anyone will notice? I could also just run the
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>direct
> >>outs into Paris' AD converters...
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> >>Gantt
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Gantt,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I got the non firewire presonus =
>Digimax.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I purposely got the non because there was much =
>talk=20
>of</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>major bugs with the FS. Drivers weren't allowing
=
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>complete</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>utilization and many bugs.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I can't remember exaclt, but I didn't like what
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>I=20
>heard.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>They may have fixed the issues by now I don't=20
>know.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I am sure you can find a forum somewhere that is
=
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>discussing it.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Sorry couldn't be more informative.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I haven't had a problem with my =
>Presonus.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Works fine.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Clocks to the MOTU 8pre via lightpipe no=20
>prob.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>Brandon</DIV>
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>href=3D"news:466eea7e@linux">news:466eea7e@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>The=20
> Paris ADAT cards only pass 20 bits. Trying to send 24 bits thru=20
> them<BR>would truncate each digital word to 20 bits. The =
>question is=20
> whether or<BR>not the low level info that lives in the least =
>significant 4=20
> bits is noticably<BR>to anyone besides newborn children and dogs (none
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>sure I=20
> follow why you would lose 4 bits...ADAT is ADAT, and to the =
>best<BR>>of my=20
> knowledge there are no ADDA convertors that go above 24=20
> bit...can<BR>you<BR>>elaborate on how/where you would lose bit=20
> information?<BR>><BR>>FYI: 20bit recordings have a dynamic range =
>around=20
> 106 db or so...far greater<BR>>than CDs, tape, etc, so the only one =
>who=20
> would really notice would be you,<BR>>and then only if you looked =
>at your=20
> bit metering....<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>"Gantt Kushner" <<A =
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> href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Anyone have any experience w/ =
>these? I'm=20
> thinking about picking up a used<BR>>>one for doing remote=20
> recording. It has direct analog outs and ADAT =
>outs<BR>>>but if I=20
> run the 24 bit outs of the Digimax into Paris' ADAT card=20
> I'll<BR>lose<BR>>>4 bits. Do you think anyone will =
>notice? I=20
> could also just run the direct<BR>>>outs into Paris' AD=20
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86513 is a reply to message #86506] |
Tue, 12 June 2007 16:29 |
Cujjo
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Um not to hijack, but there is a guy at GSselling a racked set of 8 original
qhad channels with EQ for around six grand.....oh man....I am chomping at
the bit,.,,,
Anyone here tried the A design Pacifica or the P1?
"wireline" <wirelinestudio@nospamsbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>Thanks...being of the unclean (not a Paris user) I did not know that...
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>As others have said, they aren't Neves or Quad8s, but they ain't bad...if
>the price is right jump on it
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>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>The Paris ADAT cards only pass 20 bits. Trying to send 24 bits thru them
>>would truncate each digital word to 20 bits. The question is whether or
>>not the low level info that lives in the least significant 4 bits is noticably
>>to anyone besides newborn children and dogs (none of whom would probably
>>care!).
>>
>>gantt
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>>"wireline" <nospam@dogbreath.gov> wrote:
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>>>OT to your question, but..
>>>
>>>Not sure I follow why you would lose 4 bits...ADAT is ADAT, and to the
>best
>>>of my knowledge there are no ADDA convertors that go above 24 bit...can
>>you
>>>elaborate on how/where you would lose bit information?
>>>
>>>FYI: 20bit recordings have a dynamic range around 106 db or so...far greater
>>>than CDs, tape, etc, so the only one who would really notice would be
you,
>>>and then only if you looked at your bit metering....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Anyone have any experience w/ these? I'm thinking about picking up a
>used
>>>>one for doing remote recording. It has direct analog outs and ADAT outs
>>>>but if I run the 24 bit outs of the Digimax into Paris' ADAT card I'll
>>lose
>>>>4 bits. Do you think anyone will notice? I could also just run the
direct
>>>>outs into Paris' AD converters...
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86564 is a reply to message #86563] |
Wed, 13 June 2007 19:22 |
wireline[20]
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Not at all...although there are minor differences in sonic response based
primarily in the phsical limitations of space and transformer size, both
are top notch, and both have been used interchangeably here. The Pacifica
IMO ekes out in sheer sonic power, while the P1 is more a finesse piece -
if that makes any sense
"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>Do you hear much of a downgrade using the p1 as opposed to the pacifica?
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>"wireline" <wirelinestudionospam@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>Yes...I have, use, and endorse both...IMO the ADesigns stuff is the most
>versitile
>>and colored with a pleasing bouquet of anything else I've used, including
>>Neves, API, ADL, Millenia, etc..
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>>I would not hesitate to (and have done so a time or two) use exclusively
>>the Pacifica and P1s for an entire CD project.
>>
>>> Anyone here tried the A design Pacifica or the P1?
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86592 is a reply to message #86564] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 06:31 |
Cujjo
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Thanks! I need to decide what to put in my last two slots, although I seem
to be having issues with the pres in slot one and two all of a sudden, I
need to hunt down the culprit, could be a bad snake. I hope it was just a
ghost.
Anyway, I was thinking the A Designs would be great for overheads, vocals
acoustic git that sort of thing.
"wireline" <wirelinestudio@nospam.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>Not at all...although there are minor differences in sonic response based
>primarily in the phsical limitations of space and transformer size, both
>are top notch, and both have been used interchangeably here. The Pacifica
>IMO ekes out in sheer sonic power, while the P1 is more a finesse piece
-
>if that makes any sense
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>>Do you hear much of a downgrade using the p1 as opposed to the pacifica?
>>
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>>"wireline" <wirelinestudionospam@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>>Yes...I have, use, and endorse both...IMO the ADesigns stuff is the most
>>versitile
>>>and colored with a pleasing bouquet of anything else I've used, including
>>>Neves, API, ADL, Millenia, etc..
>>>
>>>I would not hesitate to (and have done so a time or two) use exclusively
>>>the Pacifica and P1s for an entire CD project.
>>>
>>>> Anyone here tried the A design Pacifica or the P1?
>>>>
>>>>
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86606 is a reply to message #86600] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 08:57 |
Nil
Messages: 245
Registered: March 2007
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Although not ever having used any of the Presonus stuff before,
I would kind of tend to agree with Crhis' last statement - at
least from a standpoint of HAVING used RME & MOTU stuff.
I've always been happy with the sound & performance of my RME
Multifaces, and I recently picked up a MOTU 8-Pre, and although
I'm not using it as an interface, so I cna't speak for the
drivers (I just using it as a stand-alone preamp for tom mics
so far, lightpiping the signals out to one of the Multifaces),
I can say that for $549, it's a bargain for a bank of eight of
what so far seem to be pretty darn decent, good clean preamps.
Neil
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>
>This was a post from Chris when I was researching this device a few =
>months back.
>
>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message=20
>>>>news:45d88fac$1@linux...
>>>> =20
>>>>
>>>>>HI Brandon,
>>>>>Driver -
>>>>>Not all the routing features are available in the current drivers. =
>You
>>can=20
>>>>>at the moment only use the analog and the first bank of adat in the=20
>>>>>internal routing control.
>>>>>
>>>>>Every unit we've gotten so far has had hardware issues.
>>>>>dead or abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.
>>>>>Weird zippering sounds when using the mic gain and also the =
>headphone
>>
>>>>>channels.
>>>>>Grounding noise and buzzing units.
>>>>>
>>>>>If they work out some of these mechanical and or drivers issues then
>the
>>
>>>>>unit will be a great device but so far I've had to replace almost =
>every
>>
>>>>>unit with some other device.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In the long run I think you really better off going with the MOTU =
>and
>>RME=20
>>>>>products.
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>
>--=20
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon.
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This was a post from Chris when I was =
>researching this=20
>device a few months back.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
>href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
>wrote in=20
>message <BR>>>>news:45d88fac$1@linux...<BR>>>> =20
><BR>>>><BR>>>>>HI =
>Brandon,<BR>>>>>Driver=20
>-<BR>>>>>Not all the routing features are available in the =
>current=20
>drivers. You<BR>>can <BR>>>>>at the moment only use the =
>analog=20
>and the first bank of adat in the <BR>>>>>internal routing=20
>control.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Every unit we've gotten =
>so far=20
>has had hardware issues.<BR>>>>>dead or abnormally noisy =
>inputs or=20
>outputs.<BR>>>>>Weird zippering sounds when using the mic =
>gain and=20
>also the=20
>headphone<BR>><BR>>>>>channels.<BR>>>>>Groundi=
>ng=20
>noise and buzzing units.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>If they =
>work out=20
>some of these mechanical and or drivers issues=20
>then<BR>the<BR>><BR>>>>>unit will be a great device but =
>so far=20
>I've had to replace almost every<BR>><BR>>>>>unit with =
>some other=20
>device.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>In =
>the long=20
>run I think you really better off going with the MOTU and<BR>>RME=20
><BR>>>>>products.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Chri=
>s</DIV>
><DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>Brandon.</DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86607 is a reply to message #86606] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 08:55 |
brandon[2]
Messages: 380
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Yeah my 8 pre is the basis of my system.
I havn't had any real issues with it.
I use the Presonus as a preamp 8 channel extension lightpiped and slaved
to the 8pre. I rarely use the 8pre ins since they are located on the =
back and=20
less easy to get to.
Presonus is better designed for lazy people like me.
--=20
Thanks,
Brandon=20
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46716569$1@linux...
Although not ever having used any of the Presonus stuff before,
I would kind of tend to agree with Crhis' last statement - at
least from a standpoint of HAVING used RME & MOTU stuff.
I've always been happy with the sound & performance of my RME
Multifaces, and I recently picked up a MOTU 8-Pre, and although
I'm not using it as an interface, so I cna't speak for the
drivers (I just using it as a stand-alone preamp for tom mics
so far, lightpiping the signals out to one of the Multifaces),
I can say that for $549, it's a bargain for a bank of eight of
what so far seem to be pretty darn decent, good clean preamps.
Neil
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>
>This was a post from Chris when I was researching this device a few =
=3D
>months back.
>
>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message=3D20
>>>>news:45d88fac$1@linux...
>>>> =3D20
>>>>
>>>>>HI Brandon,
>>>>>Driver -
>>>>>Not all the routing features are available in the current =
drivers. =3D
>You
>>can=3D20
>>>>>at the moment only use the analog and the first bank of adat in =
the=3D20
>>>>>internal routing control.
>>>>>
>>>>>Every unit we've gotten so far has had hardware issues.
>>>>>dead or abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.
>>>>>Weird zippering sounds when using the mic gain and also the =3D
>headphone
>>
>>>>>channels.
>>>>>Grounding noise and buzzing units.
>>>>>
>>>>>If they work out some of these mechanical and or drivers issues =
then
>the
>>
>>>>>unit will be a great device but so far I've had to replace almost =
=3D
>every
>>
>>>>>unit with some other device.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In the long run I think you really better off going with the MOTU =
=3D
>and
>>RME=3D20
>>>>>products.
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>
>--=3D20
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon.
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial>This was a post from Chris when I was =3D
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
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>href=3D3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
=3D
>wrote in=3D20
>message <BR>>>>news:45d88fac$1@linux...<BR>>>> =3D20
><BR>>>><BR>>>>>HI =3D
>Brandon,<BR>>>>>Driver=3D20
>-<BR>>>>>Not all the routing features are available in the =3D
>current=3D20
>drivers. You<BR>>can <BR>>>>>at the moment only use the =3D
>analog=3D20
>and the first bank of adat in the <BR>>>>>internal routing=3D20
>control.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Every unit we've gotten =3D
>so far=3D20
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>inputs or=3D20
>outputs.<BR>>>>>Weird zippering sounds when using the mic =3D
>gain and=3D20
>also the=3D20
>headphone<BR>><BR>>>>>channels.<BR>>>>>Groundi=3D
>ng=3D20
>noise and buzzing units.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>If they =3D
>work out=3D20
>some of these mechanical and or drivers issues=3D20
>then<BR>the<BR>><BR>>>>>unit will be a great device but =3D
>so far=3D20
>I've had to replace almost every<BR>><BR>>>>>unit with =3D
>some other=3D20
>device.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>In =3D
>the long=3D20
>run I think you really better off going with the MOTU =
and<BR>>RME=3D20
><BR>>>>>products.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Chri=3D
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><DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
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><DIV>Brandon.</DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Yeah my 8 pre is the basis of my=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I use the Presonus as a preamp 8 channel =
extension=20
lightpiped and slaved</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>to the 8pre. I rarely use the 8pre ins since =
they are=20
located on the back and </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Presonus is better designed for lazy people like =
me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Brandon </DIV>
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<DIV>"Neil" <<A href=3D"mailto:IUOIU@OIU.com">IUOIU@OIU.com</A>> =
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=
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HAVING=20
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the<BR>drivers (I just using it as a stand-alone preamp for tom=20
mics<BR>so far, lightpiping the signals out to one of the =
Multifaces),<BR>I=20
can say that for $549, it's a bargain for a bank of eight of<BR>what =
so far=20
seem to be pretty darn decent, good clean=20
preamps.<BR><BR>Neil<BR><BR><BR>"Brandon" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>> =
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>This was a=20
post from Chris when I was researching this device a few =
=3D<BR>>months=20
back.<BR>><BR>>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
=
message=3D20<BR>>>>>news:45d88fac$1@linux...<BR>>>>&=
gt;=20
=3D20<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>HI=20
Brandon,<BR>>>>>>Driver -<BR>>>>>>Not =
all the=20
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=3D<BR>>You<BR>>>can=3D20<BR>>>>>>at the =
moment only use=20
the analog and the first bank of adat in=20
the=3D20<BR>>>>>>internal routing=20
control.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>Every unit =
we've=20
gotten so far has had hardware issues.<BR>>>>>>dead or=20
abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.<BR>>>>>>Weird =
zippering=20
sounds when using the mic gain and also the=20
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=3D<BR>>headphone<BR>>><BR>>>>>>channels. <BR>>=
>>>>Grounding=20
noise and buzzing =
units.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>If=20
they work out some of these mechanical and or drivers issues=20
then<BR>>the<BR>>><BR>>>>>>unit will be a =
great device=20
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=3D<BR>>every<BR>>><BR>>>>>>unit with some =
other=20
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device.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>&g=
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</DIV><BR>><DIV>>>> "Chris Ludwig"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A'>mailto:=
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| Re: Presonus Digimax FS [message #86719 is a reply to message #86606] |
Sat, 16 June 2007 04:13 |
John
Messages: 39
Registered: May 2006
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I have 3 digimax fs(s) and love em. Amazing sound.
Neil wrote:
> Although not ever having used any of the Presonus stuff before,
> I would kind of tend to agree with Crhis' last statement - at
> least from a standpoint of HAVING used RME & MOTU stuff.
>
> I've always been happy with the sound & performance of my RME
> Multifaces, and I recently picked up a MOTU 8-Pre, and although
> I'm not using it as an interface, so I cna't speak for the
> drivers (I just using it as a stand-alone preamp for tom mics
> so far, lightpiping the signals out to one of the Multifaces),
> I can say that for $549, it's a bargain for a bank of eight of
> what so far seem to be pretty darn decent, good clean preamps.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>
>> This was a post from Chris when I was researching this device a few =
>> months back.
>>
>>>>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message=20
>>>>> news:45d88fac$1@linux...
>>>>> =20
>>>>>
>>>>>> HI Brandon,
>>>>>> Driver -
>>>>>> Not all the routing features are available in the current drivers. =
>> You
>>> can=20
>>>>>> at the moment only use the analog and the first bank of adat in the=20
>>>>>> internal routing control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every unit we've gotten so far has had hardware issues.
>>>>>> dead or abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.
>>>>>> Weird zippering sounds when using the mic gain and also the =
>> headphone
>>>>>> channels.
>>>>>> Grounding noise and buzzing units.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they work out some of these mechanical and or drivers issues then
>> the
>>>>>> unit will be a great device but so far I've had to replace almost =
>> every
>>>>>> unit with some other device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the long run I think you really better off going with the MOTU =
>> and
>>> RME=20
>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>> --=20
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon.
>>
>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> <HTML><HEAD>
>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16481" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>> </HEAD>
>> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This was a post from Chris when I was =
>> researching this=20
>> device a few months back.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV>>>>"Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
>> wrote in=20
>> message <BR>>>>news:45d88fac$1@linux...<BR>>>> =20
>> <BR>>>><BR>>>>>HI =
>> Brandon,<BR>>>>>Driver=20
>> -<BR>>>>>Not all the routing features are available in the =
>> current=20
>> drivers. You<BR>>can <BR>>>>>at the moment only use the =
>> analog=20
>> and the first bank of adat in the <BR>>>>>internal routing=20
>> control.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Every unit we've gotten =
>> so far=20
>> has had hardware issues.<BR>>>>>dead or abnormally noisy =
>> inputs or=20
>> outputs.<BR>>>>>Weird zippering sounds when using the mic =
>> gain and=20
>> also the=20
>> headphone<BR>><BR>>>>>channels.<BR>>>>>Groundi=
>> ng=20
>> noise and buzzing units.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>If they =
>> work out=20
>> some of these mechanical and or drivers issues=20
>> then<BR>the<BR>><BR>>>>>unit will be a great device but =
>> so far=20
>> I've had to replace almost every<BR>><BR>>>>>unit with =
>> some other=20
>> device.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>In =
>> the long=20
>> run I think you really better off going with the MOTU and<BR>>RME=20
>> <BR>>>>>products.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>Chri=
>> s</DIV>
>> <DIV><BR>-- <BR>Thanks,</DIV>
>> <DIV> </DIV>
>> <DIV>Brandon.</DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
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