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Wed, 13 July 2005 16:25  |
rick
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rst to publicly admit that i would if given the chance, shoot
>any christian / muslim, (or what ever religion they are) who will
>threaten me because they'll never be satisfied that i have not met
>their idea of the righteousness. really, is it just me, or are
>criminals, criminals...unless in their mind their interpretation of
>god is on their side is the right one to have? you know, god is a
>great moral idea, that is until you throw people into the
>equation...then it sucks because we suck...always have, always will.
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>as an ex carpenter i still have access to wood, nails and other
>stuff...go for it.
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>;o)And you guys all thought I was a hardline right winger.... attached.
I agree Deej... the premise
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| Re: Is anybody getting the "why's" of the world...is right here? [message #55685 is a reply to message #55679] |
Wed, 13 July 2005 17:33  |
derek
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get="_blank">l97bd1l0kvm5lb0rt53r23v0t4m3l59p1k@4ax.com...
>> with all the vitriolic comments from both sides of an argument, is it
>> any wonder we all will eventually resort to extreme measures. i'll be
>> the first to publicly admit that i would if given the chance, shoot
>> any christian / muslim, (or what ever religion they are) who will
>> threaten me because they'll never be satisfied that i have not met
>> their idea of the righteousness. really, is it just me, or are
>> criminals, criminals...unless in their mind their interpretation of
>> god is on their side is the right one to have? you know, god is a
>> great moral idea, that is until you throw people into the
>> equation...then it sucks because we suck...always have, always will.
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>> as an ex carpenter i still have access to wood, nails and other
>> stuff...go for it.
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>> ;o)
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>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>http://www.boston.com/ae/food/gallery/Readers_grilling?pg=6
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How'd it taste?Of course, you'll want to make sure the Mec is on before you boot the Paris
software -just making sure. I'd also double check your co
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| Re: Is anybody getting the "why's" of the world...is right here? [message #55690 is a reply to message #55680] |
Wed, 13 July 2005 18:16 |
Mike ClMike Claytor
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>> I love Mondrian (obviously...)
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>> DC
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>"derek" <derekvonkrogh@gmx.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:42d5b2f1$1@linux...
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Yehhhh, I too thought we had enough of those kind of people and now Dejj and
Mike are going on that same wagon??? Where will it end if noone can stop
these bastards too before it's too late...
....hmmm, but the first book of Mike, chapter 2, verse 4...hmmm, it wasn't so
bad at all....hmmm...
erlilo
> personally i got no problem with faith. its when people
> give up to their urge to form their personal faith into
> some sort of bigger institution where the trouble begins.
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>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Little creatures or Beez Neez....
Mmm, I'm a big fan of Little Creatures Pilzner actually. That might be a
thought...
Cheers,
Kim.In a whole new world, brotha.... I think I am waiting on the wrong side of
Styx some days.. drop me an e, we'll catch up. Anyway, funny you should
mention the who and be talking about guitars. We strike the same chord on
that one (hey, I'm a pun-nee guy), I've been getting back into playing live
guitar again here recently and one of our new additions will be Who Are You.
That pick guard is pretty inspiring, I may have to get something custom and
cool like that. Unfortunately it won't work on my main axe, it's a modified
RG570 - no guard. However, something like that in a thinner plastic would
look totally slammin on my live drum kit........hmmmm...........
AA
"DC" <dcicchetti@somewhere.nope> wrote in message news:42d5f94a$1@linux...
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> I guess I better stop playing Who stuff on it..
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> heh heh
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> how you doing?
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> DC
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> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Sweeet dude.. but I caught myself singing *c'mon get happ-eee* for some
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>>reason.
>>AA
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>>"DC" <dcicchetti@
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| Re:a simple explanation [message #55831 is a reply to message #55679] |
Fri, 15 July 2005 07:20 |
Jef Knight
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e out of
their garments both, and likewise of their minds.
9
And, lo!, they did dance upon the grass of the ground, and they did
rock backward, and roll forward continually;
10
And as they did rock and roll, the serpent that was cunning did play
upon a stringed instrument of music, and did smite his tail upon the
ground in an hypnotic rhythm, and he did sing in a voice that was
like unto four voices: She loveth you, yea, yea, yea.
11
And they did both twist and shout, and fall into a frenzy, both the
man and the woman, and lay themselves upon the ground, and commit
there abominations.
12
And when they were spent from their abominations, they did take the
herb bearing seed, and did roll it and smoke it; and lo! it gaveth
them ideas, even as the LORD God had said; and they were like to
commit new abominations.
13
Now the LORD God was walking in the garden in the cool of the day,
with his dog; and as Adam and his wife were beginning these new
abominations, the LORD God did stub the toe of his foot upon their
hindermost quarters.
14
And the LORD God waxed wroth, and said unto Adam, Wherefore art thou
naked? And what is that thou smokest? And why art thou not at thy
work? For have I not said that it is the man's part to produce, and
the part of the woman to consume whatever he produceth?
15
And Adam and his wife did look upon one another, and did giggle.
16
Whereupon the LORD God waxed exceeding wroth, and he said, Hast thou
eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldst not eat?
17
And the man said, The woman whom you gavest to be with me made me do
it.
18
And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou has
done? And the woman said, The snake in the grass made me do it.
19
And the snake in the grass said, The devil made me do it.
20
And the LORD God said unto the snake in the grass, Thou art an
permissive beast; wherefore art thou cursed to crawl upon they
belly, and be made into belts and boots and handbags hereafter.
21
Unto the woman He said, Since thou has harkened unto the snake in
the grass which is broad-of-mind and permissive; henceforth let it
be thy lot to be confused and scattered in thy brains, and to be
plagued by demons who shall tempt thee to become that which thou
canst not be: such as an warrior, or an extinguisher of fires, or an
operator of heavy machinery.
22
And since thou has put aside the decent clothing wherein I clad
thee, here after no garment shall satisfy thee, and thou shalt be
overcome by longings to change thy raiment every spring and fall.
23
And above all this, since thou hast desired to tast of the fruit of
the Tree of the Knowledge of Sex, now let thy very body be a curse
unto thee. From generation unto generation, men shalt whistle and
hoot after thee as thou passest; yea, and women also.
24
And unto Adam he said, Woe unto thee who hast harkened not to the
voice of the LORD thy God, but rather to her who is thy inferior;
for thou wast free to choose. Now shalt thou be banished from the
Marketplace and the Free Play thereof; neither shalt thou pluck the
fruit from the Trees of Life and Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
25
In the sweat of they face shalt thou earn thy bread, and bankruptcy
shall be thy lot; and upon thy back, as a burden unto thee, thou
shalt bear Big Government; for thou has sinned.
26
And the LORD God said unto the man, Behold, thy knowledge of sex
shall be as a curse upon thee and they generations; and thy loins
shall be a trial to thee.
27
For whensoever thou goest into a public place, then shall thy member
rise up; when thou sitteth to eat and drink among they fellows,
likewise shall it rise up; yea, even when thou standeth before the
people to preach unto them in my name, shall it rise up, and be a
scandal unto thee, and make an unseemly lump in thy garments; yet
when thou goest into thy wife shall thy member wither, and rise up not.
28
And then the LORD God was silent, and waxed sad, and made as if to
leave them there. But he turned and spoke softly unto Adam and his
wife Eve, saying, Knowest thou something? Mine only hope is this:
That someday, ye have children who do unto you the way ye have done
unto Me.
-- Tony Hendra & Sean Kelly
Andrew Tong <http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/%7Ewerdna/autobio.html>,
<http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/%7Ewerdna/autobio.html>werdna@ugcs.caltech.edu
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rick wrote:
>with all the vitriolic comments from both sides of an argument, is it
>any wonder we all will eventually resort to extreme measures. i'll be
>the first to publicly admit that i would if given the chance, shoot
>any christian / muslim, (or what ever religion they are) who will
>threaten me because they'll never be satisfied that i have not met
>their idea of the righteousness. really, is it just me, or are
>criminals, criminals...unless in their mind their interpretation of
>god is on their side is the right one to have? you know, god is a
>great moral idea, that is until you throw people into the
>equation...then it sucks because we suck...always have, always will.
>
>as an ex carpenter i still have access to wood, nails and other
>stuff...go for it.
>
>;o)
>
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I don't know if you cats have seen this but it's pretty humourous so
here ya go....<br>
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jef<br>
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<i>Last Updated: April 5, 1994</i>
<h1>The Book of Creation</h1>
<h2>Chapter 1</h2>
<dt>1</dt>
<dd> In the beginning God created Dates. </dd>
<dt>2</dt>
<dd> And the date <i>was</i> Monday, July 4, 4004 BC. </dd>
<dt>3</dt>
<dd> And God said, let there be light; and there was light. And
<i>when</i> there was Light, God saw the Date, <i>that</i> it was
Monday, and he <i>got</i> down to work; for verily, he had a Big Job
<i>to do</i>. </dd>
<dt>4</dt>
<dd> And God made pottery shards and Silurian mollusks and
pre-Cambrian limestone strata; and flints and Jurassic Mastodon tusks
and Picanthopus erectus skulls and Cretaceous placentals made he; and
those cave paintings at Lasceaux. And that was <i>that</i>, for the
first Work Day. </dd>
<dt>5</dt>
<dd> And God saw that he had made many wondrous things,
<i>but</i> that he had not wherein to put <i>it</i> all. And God
said, Let the heavens be divided from the earth; and <i>let</i> us
bury all of these Things which we have made in the earth; <i>but</i>
not too deep. </dd>
<dt>6</dt>
<dd> And God buried all the Things which he had made, and that
was <i>that</i>. </dd>
<dt>7</dt>
<dd> And the morning and the evening <i>and</i> the overtime
were Tuesday. </dd>
<dt>8</dt>
<dd> And God said, Let there be water; and let the dry
<i>land</i> appear; and that was <i>that</i>. </dd>
<dt>9</dt>
<dd> And God called the dry <i>land</i> Real Estate; and the
water called he <i>the</i> Sea. And in the land and beneath <i>it</i>
put he crude <i>oil</i>, grades one through six; and <i>natural</i>
gas put he thereunder, and prehistoric carboniferous forests yielding
anthracite and other ligneous matter; and all these called he
Resources; and <i>he</i> made them Abundant. </dd>
<dt>10</dt>
<dd> And likewise all that was <i>in</i> the sea, even unto two
hundred miles from the dry <i>land</i>, called he resources; all that
was therein, <i>like</i> manganese nodules, for instance. </dd>
<dt>11</dt>
<dd> And the morning unto the evening <i>had been</i> a long
day; <i>which</i> he called Wednesday. </dd>
<dt>12</dt>
<dd> And God said, Let the earth bring forth abundantly every
moving creature I <i>can</i> think of, with or without backbones, with
or without wings or feet, or fins or claws, vestigial limbs and all,
right <i>now</i>; and let each <i>one</i> be of a separate species.
For lo, I can make <i>whatsoever</i> I like, <i>whensoever</i> I
like. </dd>
<dt>13</dt>
<dd> And the earth brought forth abundantly <i>all</i>
creatures, great and small, with and without backbones, with and
without wings and feet and fins and claws, vestigial limbs and all,
<i>from</i> bugs <i>to</i> brontosauruses. </dd>
<dt>14</dt>
<dd> But God blessed them all, saying, Be fruitful and multiply
and <i>Evolve Not</i>. </dd>
<dt>15</dt>
<dd> And God looked upon the species he hath made, and saw that
the earth was exceedingly crowded, and he said <i>unto</i> them, Let
each species compete for what it needed; for Healthy Competition is My
Law. And the species competeth amongst themselves, the cattle and the
creeping things; and some madeth it and some didn't; and the dogs ate
the dinosaurs and God was pleased. </dd>
<dt>16</dt>
<dd> And God took the bones from the dinosaurs, and caused them
to appear <i>mighty</i> old; and cast he them about the land and the
sea. And he took every tiny <i>creature</i> that had not madeth it,
and caused <i>them</i> to become fossils; and cast he them about
<i>likewise</i>. </dd>
<dt>17</dt>
<dd> And just to put matters beyond the valley of the shadow of
a <i>doubt</i> God created carbon dating. And <i>this</i> is the
origin of species. </dd>
<dt>18</dt>
<dd> And in the Evening of the day which <i>was</i> Thursday,
God saw that he had put in <i>another</i> good day's work. </dd>
<dt>19</dt>
<dd> And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness, <i>which is</i> tall and well-formed and pale of hue: and
let us <i>also</i> make monkeys, which resembleth us not in any wise,
<i>but</i> are short and ill-formed and hairy. And God added, Let
man <i>have</i> dominion over the monkeys and the fowl of the air and
every speices, endangered or otherwise. </dd>
<dt>20</dt>
<dd> So God created Man in His <i>own</i> image; tall and
well-formed and pale of hue created He him, and nothing at all like
the monkeys. </dd>
<dt>21</dt>
<dd> And God said, Behold I have given you every herb bearing
seed, which is upon the face of the earth. But ye shalt not smoketh
it, <i>lest</i> it giveth <i>you</i> ideas. </dd>
<dt>22</dt>
<dd> And to every beast of the earth and every fowl of the air
I have given also every green herb, and to them it shall be for
<i>meat.</i> But they shall be <i>for you</i>. And the Lord God your
Host suggesteth that the flesh of cattle goeth well with that of the
fin and the claw; thus shall Surf be wedded unto Turf. </dd>
<dt>23</dt>
<dd> And God saw everything he had made, and he saw that it was
very good; and God said, It <i>just</i> goes to show Me what the
private sector can accomplish. With a lot of fool regulations this
could have taken <i>billions of years.</i> </dd>
<dt>24</dt>
<dd> And the evening of the fifth day, <i>which had been</i>
the roughest day yet, God said, Thank me it's Friday. And God made
the weekend.
<h2>Chapter 2</h2>
</dd>
<dt>1</dt>
<dd> Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and
<i>all</i> in five days, and all less than six thousand years
<i>ago</i>; and if thou believest it not, in a sling <i>shalt</i>
thou
find thy hindermost quarters </dd>
<dt>2</dt>
<dd> Likewise God took the dust of the ground, and the slime of
the Sea and the scum of the earth and formed Man therefrom; and
<i>breathed</i> the breath of life right in his face. And he
<i>became</i> Free to Choose. </dd>
<dt>3</dt>
<dd> And God made a Marketplace eastward of Eden, in which the
man was free <i>to</i> play. And this <i>was</i> the Free Play of the
Marketplace. </dd>
<dt>4</dt>
<dd> And out of the ground made the LORD God <i>to grow</i> four
trees: the Tree of Life, and the Liberty Tree, and the Pursuit of
Happiness Tree, and the Tree of the Knowledge of Sex. </dd>
<dt>5</dt>
<dd> And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, This <i>is</i>
my Law, which is called the Law of Supply and Demand. Investeth thou
in the trees of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, and thou
shalt make for thyself a <i>fortune.</i> For <i>what</i> fruit thou
eatest not, that thou mayest sell, and with the seeds thereof expand
<i>thy</i> operations. </dd>
<dt>6</dt>
<dd> But the fruit of the tree of the Knowledge of Sex, thou
mayest no eat; nor mayest thou invest therein, nor profit thereby nor
expand <i>its</i> operations; for that is a mighty waste of seed. </dd>
<dt>7</dt>
<dd> And the man was exceeding glad. But he asked the LORD God:
Who then <i>shall</i> labor in this Marketplace? For I am no
management, <i>being</i> tall and well-formed and pale of hue? </dd>
<dt>8</dt>
<dd> And the LORD God said unto himself, Verily, this kid hath
the potential which is Executive. </dd>
<dt>9</dt>
<dd> And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of
the field and every fowl of the air, and brought them unto Adam to
labor for him. And they labored for peanuts. </dd>
<dt>10</dt>
<dd> Then Adam was again exceeding glad. But he spake once more
unto the LORD God, saying, Lo, I am free to play in the Marketplace of
the LORD, and have cheap labor in plenty; but to whom shall I sell my
surplus fruit and realize a fortune thereby? </dd>
<dt>11</dt>
<dd> And the LORD God said unto himself, Verily, this is an
Live One. </dd>
<dt>12</dt>
<dd> And he caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he took
from him one of his ribs, which was an spare rib. </dd>
<dt>13</dt>
<dd> And the spare rib which the LORD God had taken from the
man, made he woman. And he brought her unto the man, saying: </dd>
<dt>14</dt>
<dd> This is Woman and she shall purchase your fruit; and ye
shall realize a fortune thereby. For Man produceth and Woman
consumeth, wherefore she shall be called the consumer. </dd>
<dt>15</dt>
<dd> And they were both decently clad, the Man and the Woman,
from the neck even unto the ankles, so they were not ashamed.
<h2>Chapter 3</h2>
</dd>
<dt>1</dt>
<dd> Now the snake in the grass was <i>more</i> permissive than
any beast of the field which the LORD God <i>had</i> made. And he
said <i>unto</i> the woman, Why has thou accepted this lowly and
submissive <i>role</i>? For art thou not human, <i>even</i> as the
man
is human? </dd>
<dt>2</dt>
<dd>And the woman said unto the snake in the grass, the LORD God
hath ordained that I am placed under the man, and must do whatsoever
he telleth me to do; for is <i>he</i> not the Man? </dd>
<dt>3</dt>
<dd> But the snake in the grass laughed an cunning laugh, and
said unto the woman, Is it not right and just that thou shouldst
fulfill thy <i>potential?</i> For art thou not comely in thy flesh,
even as the man is comely in his flesh? </dd>
<dt>4</dt>
<dd> And the woman said, Nay, I know not, for hath not the LORD
God clad us decently, from the neck even unto the ankles; and
forbidden that we eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Sex? </dd>
<dt>5</dt>
<dd> But the snake in the grass said unto the woman, whispering
even into her very ear, saying, Whatsoever feeleth good, do thou
<i>it</i>; and believeth thou me, it feeleth <i>good</i>. </dd>
<dt>6</dt>
<dd>And when the woman saw the fruit of the Tree of the
Knowledge of Sex, that it was firm and plump and juicy, she plucked
thereof, and sank her teeth <i>therein</i>, and gave also to her
husband, <i>and</i> he likewise sank his teeth <i>therein</i>. </dd>
<dt>7</dt>
<dd>And the eyes of <i>both</i> of them were opened, and they
saw that they were not naked. </dd>
<dt>8</dt>
<dd> And the woman lossened <i>then</i> Adam's uppermost
garment, and he likewise loosened hers; and she loosened his
nethermost garment, and the man <i>then</i> loosened her nethermost
garment; until they were out of their garments both, and
<i>likewise</i> of their minds. </dd>
<dt>9</dt>
<dd> And, lo!, they did dance <i>upon</i> the grass of the
ground, and they did rock backward, and roll forward continually; </dd>
<dt>10</dt>
<dd> And as they did rock and roll, the serpent that <i>was</i>
cunning did play upon a stringed <i>instrument</i> of music, and did
smite his tail upon the ground in an hypnotic rhythm, and he did sing
<i>in a voice</i> that was like unto four voices: She loveth you,
yea,
yea, yea. </dd>
<dt>11</dt>
<dd> And they did both twist and shout, and fall into a frenzy,
both the man <i>and</i> the woman, and lay <i>themselves</i> upon the
ground, and commit there abominations. </dd>
<dt>12</dt>
<dd> And when they <i>were</i> spent from their abominations,
they did take the herb bearing seed, and did <i>roll</i> it and smoke
it; and lo! it gaveth them ideas, even as the LORD God <i>had</i>
said; and they were like <i>to commit</i> new abominations. </dd>
<dt>13</dt>
<dd> Now the LORD God was walking in the garden in the cool of
the day, with his dog; and as Adam and his wife were <i>beginning</i>
these new abominations, the LORD God did stub the toe of his
<i>foot</i> upon their hindermost quarters. </dd>
<dt>14</dt>
<dd> And the LORD God <i>waxed</i> wroth, and said unto Adam,
Wherefore art thou naked? And what is <i>that</i> thou smokest? And
why art thou not at thy <i>work</i>? For have I not said that it is
the man's part to produce, and the part of the woman to consume
whatever he produceth? </dd>
<dt>15</dt>
<dd> And Adam and his wife did look <i>upon</i> one another,
and did giggle. </dd>
<dt>16</dt>
<dd> Whereupon the LORD God waxed exceeding wroth, and he said,
Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded <i>thee</i> that thou
<i>shouldst</i> not eat? </dd>
<dt>17</dt>
<dd> And the man said, The woman <i>whom</i> you gavest to be
<i>with me</i> made me do it. </dd>
<dt>18</dt>
<dd> And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is <i>this</i>
that thou has done? And the woman said, The snake in the grass made
me do it. </dd>
<dt>19</dt>
<dd> And the snake in the grass said, The devil made <i>me</i>
do it. </dd>
<dt>20</dt>
<dd> And the LORD God said unto the snake in the grass, Thou
art an permissive <i>beast</i>; wherefore art thou cursed to crawl
upon they belly, and be <i>made into</i> belts and boots and handbags
hereafter. </dd>
<dt>21</dt>
<dd> Unto the woman He said, Since thou has harkened unto the
snake in the grass which is broad-of-mind and permissive; henceforth
let it be thy lot to be confused and <i>scattered</i> in thy brains,
and to be plagued by demons who shall tempt thee to become that which
thou canst not be: such as an warrior, or an extinguisher of fires, or
an operator of heavy machinery. </dd>
<dt>22</dt>
<dd> And since thou has put aside the decent clothing wherein I
clad thee, here after no garment <i>shall</i> satisfy thee, and thou
shalt be overcome by longings to change thy raiment <i>every</i>
spring and fall. </dd>
<dt>23</dt>
<dd> And above all this, since thou hast desired to tast of the
fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Sex, now let thy <i>very</i>
body be a curse unto thee. From generation unto generation, men
<i>shalt</i> whistle and hoot after thee <i>as</i> thou passest;
yea,
and women also. </dd>
<dt>24</dt>
<dd> And unto Adam he said, Woe unto thee who hast harkened not
to the voice of the LORD thy God, but rather to her who is <i>thy</i>
inferior; for thou wast free to choose. Now shalt thou be banished
from the Marketplace and the Free Play thereof; <i>neither</i> shalt
thou pluck the fruit from the Trees of Life and Liberty and the
Pursuit of Happiness. </dd>
<dt>25</dt>
<dd> In the sweat of they face <i>shalt</i> thou earn thy
bread, and bankruptcy shall be <i>thy</i> lot; and upon thy back, as a
burden <i>unto</i> thee, thou shalt bear Big Government; for thou has
sinned. </dd>
<dt>26</dt>
<dd> And the LORD God said unto the man, Behold, thy knowledge
of sex shall be as a curse upon thee and they generations; and thy
loins shall be a trial to thee. </dd>
<dt>27</dt>
<dd> For whensoever thou goest into a public place, <i>then</i>
shall thy member rise <i>up</i>; when thou sitteth to eat and drink
among they fellows, likewise shall it rise <i>up</i>; yea, even when
thou standeth before the people to preach unto <i>them</i> in
<i>my</i> name, shall it rise <i>up</i>, and be a scandal unto thee,
and make an unseemly lump <i>in</i> thy garments; yet when thou goest
into thy wife shall thy member wither, and rise <i>up</i> not. </dd>
<dt>28</dt>
<dd> And then the LORD God was silent, and waxed sad, and made
as if to leave them <i>there</i>. But he turned and spoke softly
<i>unto</i> Adam and his wife Eve, saying, Knowest thou
<i>something</i>? Mine <i>only</i> hope is this: That someday, ye
have children who do <i>unto</i> you the way ye have done <i>unto</i>
Me.
<p>-- Tony Hendra & Sean Kelly </p>
<p> <author><b><a
href="http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/%7Ewerdna/autobio.html">Andrew Tong</a></b></author><a
href="http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/%7Ewerdna/autobio.html">, </a><a
href="http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/%7Ewerdna/"><i>werdna@ugcs.caltech.edu</i></a>
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<blockquote cite="midl97bd1l0kvm5lb0rt53r23v0t4m3l59p1k@4ax.com"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">with all the vitriolic comments from both sides of an argument, is it
any wonder we all will eventually resort to extreme measures. i'll be
the first to publicly admit that i would if given the chance, shoot
any christian / muslim, (or what ever religion they are) who will
threaten me because they'll never be satisfied that i have not met
their idea of the righteousness. really, is it just me, or are
criminals, criminals...unless in their mind their interpretation of
god is on their side is the right one to have? you know, god is a
great moral idea, that is until you throw people into the
equation...then it sucks because we suck...always have, always will.
as an ex carpenter i still have access to wood, nails and other
stuff...go for it.
;o)
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recently?
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justcron wrote:
>We've eaten from the Tree of Knowledge and now we're using the Knowledge to
>create Nuclear Weapons and inject human stem cells into monkeys. It will
>be no surprise when we get kicked out of our Garden of Eden by God or
>Nature.
>
>
>
>News flash... already kicked out.
"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
news:42d6eab0@linux...
> We've eaten from the Tree of Knowledge and now we're using the Knowledge
> to create Nuclear Weapons and inject human stem cells into monkeys. It
> will be no surprise when we get kicked out of our Garden of Eden by God or
> Nature.
>Dude, Im drawaing a parallel between the Garden of Eden and Earth...
or are you just heckling again
"Mark McCurdy" <gmmccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> News flash... already kicked out.
>
>
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
> news:42d6eab0@linux...
>> We've eaten from the Tree of Knowledge and now we're using the Knowledge
>> to create Nuclear Weapons and inject human stem cells into monkeys. It
>> will be no surprise when we get kicked out of our Garden of Eden by God
>> or Nature.
>>
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my friends you are surely missing the point.
The idea that you should keep killing "them" before they kill you is is
pretty sociopathic I think. Please remember a few important things about
the "war".
Let's start with "them". The dehumanizing of others is an important
diagnostic point in the evalutation of pathological personality
disorders. Underlying this is the idea that one is not harming a
"person" but a "thing" or "non-person". It allows the ego to remain
intact while performing otherwise unthinkable actions.
But who are "them"?. For the most part they are normal, everyday
famillies like yours and mine. Shop keepers, TV reparimen, gas station
attendants, secretaries....who only want to live freely, in peace,
raising their famillies and living their lives. "They" are not, for the
most part, combatants. Or they weren't before the US got their.
The US has done more harm in this region, to the people and their
country, than Saddam ever could have. The US, in it's quest for
middle-east domination vis-a-vis their oil supply, has turned a thriving
people (albeit with nasty leadership) into an empoverished, toxic
waistland.
And for you who can't see the forest for the trees, let me make the
fairly-fucking-clear observation that if you have a natural resourse
that someone else wants and they decide to come and get it from you by
force (the Chinese could do this) You will be labeled "insurgents" and
you wives and children will suddenly become "enemy combatants". Oh,
what, if someone invades you you're gonna sit on your fat ass and let
them take you home? No, you are gonna fight them off, you nasty
terrorist scum...or so you would be labeled in the media of the nation
invading you. (quite likely in the name of God)
Wake up you collective heads of knuckle. What the hell do you think's
going on over there? It's people deffending their land, their homes and
their lives from - Foreign Invaders! Fuck me, how dumb do you have to be
not to get this not-to-fucking-subtle point? If the shoe were on the
other foot you would react no differently.
One of you nazis, don't remember who, said in another thread that they
thought it was "them" who were doing the bombing, not "us". Just as a
reminder, the US has been bombing Iraq into a god-forsaken moonscape
since '89. Over 500,000 children have died since then as a direct
consequence of US military, oh-so-compassionate, action.
And please knock it off with the old "well they bombed NYC so we're
retaliating." chestnut. If you take the time to read the statements of
Bin Laden you will see that he's not a nut at all. The reasons he gives
for his actions are clearly backed up by all objective histories of the
conflict in this region, A conflict that does not, as someone here
falsely assumed, go back millenia. PS, it wasn't Iraq that did the
bombing, Saddam had nothing to do with it.
The Arabs and the Jews were living peacefully side-by-side well into the
20th century. This is fully backed up by historians, check it for
yourself. It wasn't untill the US decided to create a client state in
'48 that trouble began. Hey, stoopid, how would you feel if China
decided it was going to give Native Americans an offical homeland and
they decided to hack off a piece of New York or California and kick the
citizens out, putting the Natives in charge of the state and relocating
you "terrorists" to camps in outlying regions. It's pretty fucking
obvious why the Palistinians are upset.
And as for Iraq, only the dumbest of the dumb are still parroting the
solidly discredited lies the were conjured up by the US gov't to justify
this invasion. The historical fact is that the US and it's allies have
been meddling in this region since the 1800's in order to capture the
oil supplies.
See where I'm going with this yet? If you substiute terms you'll see
quite clearly that they can do no differently, just as you would do no
differently in their situation. A small, defencless nation, Iraq must do
what it can to get the US out of their country. Yet you continue to cast
their self-deffence as terrorism. Shame on you psychpaths.
So, should we continue to speak dispicably, idioticly, inhumanly and
pathologically of increasing and sustaining human carnage and
suffering, as you have proposed? Or is this type of thinking actually
the fuel that fires these war crimes.
.....just a little something to thing about.....
jk
Mr Simplicity wrote:
>>My few is nail the fuckers when you can find them, and make life absolutely
>>
>>
>miserable for those who are helping them.
>
>But then you're making them mad and breeding millions more of them. The
>answer to this may be exactly what GWB is wanting to do...........give the
>people a say in their own lives. Of course, this pisses off the religious
>zealots who want to keep the population in lockdown, the Sunni's in Iraq who
>used to be in power in Iraq and now are not and the those who think we are
>exporting democracy at the point of a gun because they don't like our
>policies. Funny though, I sure don't see the general population of
>Afghanistan clamoring for the return of the Taliban. I also don't see a mass
>uprising in Iraq in favor of returning Sadaam to power.
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:42d7acb1@linux...
>
>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:42d7521a$1@linux...
>>
>>
>>>Germaine (NOT "Jackson" lol) to your post:
>>>For the record... I'm all for a peaceful solution; however (and
>>>let's now bring this over to a personal level where more people
>>>may be able to understand it rather than conceptualize it), if
>>>it's apparent that the guy on the opposite side of the ring
>>>from you does not want to take off his gloves, but would rather
>>>beat the shit out of you until you are dead, you have EXACTLY
>>>two choices:
>>>
>>>1.) get beaten until you are dead.
>>>2.) beat the shit out of him until he is.
>>>
>>>What would you do?
>>>
>>>This is pretty fucking simple to me.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I'm in total agreement here Neil the only problem with your scenario is,
>>after you've done the first guy....there are 1000 more right behind him
>>
>>
>and
>
>
>>half of the paying audience who came to watch this smack down is booing
>>
>>
>you
>
>
>>cause they think you were a little hard on his sorry ass.
>>
>>This is a religious war being waged by ignorant extremists who for
>>
>>
>whatever
>
>
>>reason have decided we're the enemy and as we all know once you bring
>>religion into the mix common sense and rati
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Messages: 1976
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t; But the snake in the grass said unto the woman, whispering even into
> her very ear, saying, Whatsoever feeleth good, do thou it; and
> believeth thou me, it feeleth good.
>6
> And when the woman saw the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of
> Sex, that it was firm and plump and juicy, she plucked thereof, and
> sank her teeth therein, and gave also to her husband, and he
> likewise sank his teeth therein.
>7
> And the eyes of both of them were opened, and they saw that they
> were not naked.
>8
> And the woman lossened then Adam's uppermost garment, and he
> likewise loosened hers; and she loosened his nethermost garment, and
> the man then loosened her nethermost garment; until they were out of
> their garments both, and likewise of their minds.
>9
> And, lo!, they did dance upon the grass of the ground, and they did
> rock backward, and roll forward continually;
>10
> And as they did rock and roll, the serpent that was cunning did play
> upon a stringed instrument of music, and did smite his tail upon the
> ground in an hypnotic rhythm, and he did sing in a voice that was
> like unto four voices: She loveth you, yea, yea, yea.
>11
> And they did both twist and shout, and fall into a frenzy, both the
> man and the woman, and lay themselves upon the ground, and commit
> there abominations.
>12
> And when they were spent from their abominations, they did take the
> herb bearing seed, and did roll it and smoke it; and lo! it gaveth
> them ideas, even as the LORD God had said; and they were like to
> commit new abominations.
>13
> Now the LORD God was walking in the garden in the cool of the day,
> with his dog; and as Adam and his wife were beginning these new
> abominations, the LORD God did stub the toe of his foot upon their
> hindermost quarters.
>14
> And the LORD God waxed wroth, and said unto Adam, Wherefore art thou
> naked? And what is that thou smokest? And why art thou not at thy
> work? For have I not said that it is the man's part to produce, and
> the part of the woman to consume whatever he produceth?
>15
> And Adam and his wife did look upon one another, and did giggle.
>16
> Whereupon the LORD God waxed exceeding wroth, and he said, Hast thou
> eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldst not eat?
>17
> And the man said, The woman whom you gavest to be with me made me do
> it.
>18
> And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou has
> done? And the woman said, The snake in the grass made me do it.
>19
> And the snake in the grass said, The devil made me do it.
>20
> And the LORD God said unto the snake in the grass, Thou art an
> permissive beast; wherefore art thou cursed to crawl upon they
> belly, and be made into belts and boots and handbags hereafter.
>21
> Unto the woman He said, Since thou has harkened unto the snake in
> the grass which is broad-of-mind and permissive; henceforth let it
> be thy lot to be confused and scattered in thy brains, and to be
> plagued by demons who shall tempt thee to become that which thou
> canst not be: such as an warrior, or an extinguisher of fires, or an
> operator of heavy machinery.
>22
> And since thou has put aside the decent clothing wherein I clad
> thee, here after no garment shall satisfy thee, and thou shalt be
> overcome by longings to change thy raiment every spring and fall.
>23
> And above all this, since thou hast desired to tast of the fruit of
> the Tree of the Knowledge of Sex, now let thy very body be a curse
> unto thee. From generation unto generation, men shalt whistle and
> hoot after thee as thou passest; yea, and women also.
>24
> And unto Adam he said, Woe unto thee who hast harkened not to the
> voice of the LORD thy God, but rather to her who is thy inferior;
> for thou wast free to choose. Now shalt thou be banished from the
> Marketplace and the Free Play thereof; neither shalt thou pluck the
> fruit from the Trees of Life and Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
>25
> In the sweat of they face shalt thou earn thy bread, and bankruptcy
> shall be thy lot; and upon thy back, as a burden unto thee, thou
> shalt bear Big Government; for thou has sinned.
>26
> And the LORD God said unto the man, Behold, thy knowledge of sex
> shall be as a curse upon thee and they generations; and thy loins
> shall be a trial to thee.
>27
> For whensoever thou goest into a public place, then shall thy member
> rise up; when thou sitteth to eat and drink among they fellows,
> likewise shall it rise up; yea, even when thou standeth before the
> people to preach unto them in my name, shall it rise up, and be a
> scandal unto thee, and make an unseemly lump in thy garments; yet
> when thou goest into thy wife shall thy member wither, and rise up not.
>28
> And then the LORD God was silent, and waxed sad, and made as if to
> leave them there. But he turned and spoke softly unto Adam and his
> wife Eve, saying, Knowest thou something? Mine only hope is this:
> That someday, ye have children who do unto you the way ye have done
> unto Me.
>
> -- Tony Hendra & Sean Kelly
>
> Andrew Tong <http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/%7Ewerdna/autobio.html>,
> <http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/%7Ewerdna/autobio.html>werdna@ugcs.caltech.edu
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>rick wrote:
>
>>with all the vitriolic comments from both sides of an argument, is it
>>any wonder we all will eventually resort to extreme measures. i'll be
>>the first to publicly admit that i would if given the chance, shoot
>>any christian / muslim, (or what ever religion they are) who will
>>threaten me because they'll never be satisfied that i have not met
>>their idea of the righteousness. really, is it just me, or are
>>criminals, criminals...unless in their mind their interpretation of
>>god is on their side is the right one to have? you know, god is a
>>great moral idea, that is until you throw people into the
>>equation...then it sucks because we suck...always have, always will.
>>
>>as an ex carpenter i still have access to wood, nails and other
>>stuff...go for it.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>
>Here's a better video of it:
> http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/wtc7_col lapse2.mpg
>
>
>Who knows, maybe I'm wrong, but I dont really see too much structural damage
>to the facade.
That video is worthless, showing only one side. I have seen the
pic my friend was talking about and the facade damage is severe.
You should read the PM report on this. It was really good, pointing
out design flaws in WTC7 that overstressed columns right where
the damage was.
Do you know any structural engineers? I do, and they would never
support a cover up, and their work is all peer-reviewed, and they
would get hammered if they lied for the gummint.
Nothing I can do will shut the moonbat conspiracy website people
up, but we do not need to be lied to by them.
DCYou still wanna' crank up your hearing aid and listen to those
songs?.......I've got a CD cookin' right now........no......really I
do........shit!!!!!..........I smell smoke........!!!!!!!!
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:s8vfd19fu98tvlqkhjucl5t227r3sb1vhe@4ax.com...
> didn't take it personally, really, life's to short...especially as i
> near the gumming my oatmeal years.
>
> ;o)
>
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:22:26 -0400, "justcron"
> <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>
> >heh heh... sorry fo the namecalling rick....
> >
> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:fuved1hkcn0qakq3m4gddnf05dlj7f1io3@4ax.com...
> >> hey, i found out i'm probably a drunk and definitely a jackass...so i
> >> guess i'm deeper than i thought.
> >>
> >> ;o)
> >>
> >> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:12:05 -0500, Tony <tonyx@standingxhampton.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Justin,
> >>>
> >>>I think the problem with these topics is that everyone seems pretty
hell
> >>>bent on changing somebody else's politics in the course of a few news
> >>>group
> >>>posts. That isn't ever going to happen. It takes years for each of us
to
> >>>develop our various points of view. The best we can do is try to
> >>>understand
> >>>each other and live with the fact that everyone doesn't share the same
> >>>view.
> >>>I'm confident that if we all were to meet somewhere, with no discussion
of
> >>>our personal politics, we would get along famously. Don't get me wrong,
> >>>this
> >>>kind of discourse is good. It helps us understand each other better, if
> >>>even
> >>>just a little. My wish is that we can all have these discussions, and
even
> >>>when they've been heated, at the end still be the great international
> >>>community of PARIS people. That's it, the ICPP! Well, er...maybe a
> >>>different
> >>>acronym would be better. Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is that
I
> >>>respect you all, weather we share the same view or not.
> >>>
> >>>Tony
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On 7/14/05 10:05 PM, in article 42d7280a$1@linux, "justcron"
> >>><justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Usually I just feel like I'm banging my head against the wall trying
to
> >>>> make
> >>>> a point... I still do to a certain extent, but I think we might have
> >>>> made
> >>>> progress. I kinda understand more where people are coming from.
Its
> >>>> admirable to think the best about humans and believe the government
is
> >>>> acting in our best interest. I know people are ultimately concerned
> >>>> with
> >>>> their own security and survival.
> >>>>
> >>>> The politicalcompass thing was helpful to show that political beliefs
> >>>> are
> >>>> really a complex combination of issues, at the very least needing 2
> >>>> axes...
> >>>> liberal/conservative context is hardly useful to categorize people.
> >>>>
> >>>> Some people say you shouldn't catch feelings over a message board,
but I
> >>>> can't help it when we're talking about life and death. If anyone is
> >>>> still
> >>>> heated... I know I've been disrespectful probably a hundred times
over
> >>>> the
> >>>> years... I'm sorry.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, I thought it was a good discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>damn, if she just doesn't remind me of a girl i never knew. i do
remember bouncing like that during a couple of mult-story falls as a
carpenter...but eventually i hit the ground and stopped bouncing.
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:45:11 -0600, "Mr Simplicity"
<animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote:
>http://www.izpitera.ru/lj/tetka.swf
>
>
>"Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:42d7f51c@linux...
>> Thank Aaron for this.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>"DC" <dcicchetti@urs2.net> wrote in message news:42d7f8d6@linux...
> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html ?page=5&c=y
I dunno... seems like a decent technical explaination. I just never
believed that random damage would bring down a building in its own
footprint, rather than a chunk falling off, or half the building collapsing
or something like that. I know that the main towers did collapse like that
because the plane ripped through the entire building, but debris causing
that on a neighboring building... I'm not sure."DC" <dcicchetti@urs2.net> wrote in message news:42d7fff9$1@linux...
>
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>
>>
>>Here's a better video of it:
>> http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/wtc7_col lapse2.mpg
>>
>>
>>Who knows, maybe I'm wrong, but I dont really see too much structural
>>damage
>
>>to the facade.
>
> That video is worthless, showing only one side. I have seen the
> pic my friend was talking about and the facade damage is severe.
>
> You should read the PM report on this. It was really good, pointing
> out design flaws in WTC7 that overstressed columns right where
> the damage was.
Nah, honestly I had read that PM report as well as the FEMA official report.
The floor plans show that part of the building was WAY heavier fortified
than the rest of the building, so smooth as silk collapse in its own
footprint sounds a little far fetched.
Regarding the integrity of structural engineers, you can find disagreement
there. People tend to publish the science that supports their theory.the buildings simply failed due to their structural design. being
exoskeletal in nature they did not have the internal strength of the
old school (empire state) construction. with no center support to
speak of the floors joists fatigued from the heat and collapsed inward
on the stairwells.
On 16 Jul 2005 03:56:38 +1000, "DC" <dcicchetti@urs2.net> wrote:
>
>Cron,
>
>Here's a couple of comments from my friend whose brother
>worked in the building. Sorry, he asked me to take out the names
>and organizations.
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| Re: a simple explanation [message #55933 is a reply to message #55845] |
Thu, 16 June 2005 08:57 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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Chapter 3
>>
>>1
>> Now the snake in the grass was more permissive than any beast of the
>> field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Why
>> has thou accepted this lowly and submissive role? For art thou not
>> human, even as the man is human?
>>2
>> And the woman said unto the snake in the grass, the LORD God hath
>> ordained that I am placed under the man, and must do whatsoever he
>> telleth me to do; for is he not the Man?
>>3
>> But the snake in the grass laughed an cunning laugh, and said unto
>> the woman, Is it not right and just that thou shouldst fulfill thy
>> potential? For art thou not comely in thy flesh, even as the man is
>> comely in his flesh?
>>4
>> And the woman said, Nay, I know not, for hath not the LORD God clad
>> us decently, from the neck even unto the ankles; and forbidden that
>> we eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Sex?
>>5
>> But the snake in the grass said unto the woman, whispering even into
>> her very ear, saying, Whatsoever feeleth good, do thou it; and
>> believeth thou me, it feeleth good.
>>6
>> And when the woman saw the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of
>> Sex, that it was firm and plump and juicy, she plucked thereof, and
>> sank her teeth therein, and gave also to her husband, and he
>> likewise sank his teeth therein.
>>7
>> And the eyes of both of them were opened, and they saw that they
>> were not naked.
>>8
>> And the woman lossened then Adam's uppermost garment, and he
>> likewise loosened hers; and she loosened his nethermost garment, and
>> the man then loosened her nethermost garment; until they were out of
>> their garments both, and likewise of their minds.
>>9
>> And, lo!, they did dance upon the grass of the ground, and they did
>> rock backward, and roll forward continually;
>>10
>> And as they did rock and roll, the serpent that was cunning did play
>> upon a stringed instrument of music, and did smite his tail upon the
>> ground in an hypnotic rhythm, and he did sing in a voice that was
>> like unto four voices: She loveth you, yea, yea, yea.
>>11
>> And they did both twist and shout, and fall into a frenzy, both the
>> man and the woman, and lay themselves upon the ground, and commit
>> there abominations.
>>12
>> And when they were spent from their abominations, they did take the
>> herb bearing seed, and did roll it and smoke it; and lo! it gaveth
>> them ideas, even as the LORD God had said; and they were like to
>> commit new abominations.
>>13
>> Now the LORD God was walking in the garden in the cool of the day,
>> with his dog; and as Adam and his wife were beginning these new
>> abominations, the LORD God did stub the toe of his foot upon their
>> hindermost quarters.
>>14
>> And the LORD God waxed wroth, and said unto Adam, Wherefore art thou
>> naked? And what is that thou smokest? And why art thou not at thy
>> work? For have I not said that it is the man's part to produce, and
>> the part of the woman to consume whatever he produceth?
>>15
>> And Adam and his wife did look upon one another, and did giggle.
>>16
>> Whereupon the LORD God waxed exceeding wroth, and he said, Hast thou
>> eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldst not
>> eat?
>>17
>> And the man said, The woman whom you gavest to be with me made me do
>> it.
>>18
>> And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou has
>> done? And the woman said, The snake in the grass made me do it.
>>19
>> And the snake in the grass said, The devil made me do it.
>>20
>> And the LORD God said unto the snake in the grass, Thou art an
>> permissive beast; wherefore art thou cursed to crawl upon they
>> belly, and be made into belts and boots and handbags hereafter.
>>21
>> Unto the woman He said, Since thou has harkened unto the snake in
>> the grass which is broad-of-mind and permissive; henceforth let it
>> be thy lot to be confused and scattered in thy brains, and to be
>> plagued by demons who shall tempt thee to become that which thou
>> canst not be: such as an warrior, or an extinguisher of fires, or an
>> operator of heavy machinery.
>>22
>> And since thou has put aside the decent clothing wherein I clad
>> thee, here after no garment shall satisfy thee, and thou shalt be
>> overcome by longings to change thy raiment every spring and fall.
>>23
>> And above all this, since thou hast desired to tast of the fruit of
>> the Tree of the Knowledge of Sex, now let thy very body be a curse
>> unto thee. From generation unto generation, men shalt whistle and
>> hoot after thee as thou passest; yea, and women also.
>>24
>> And unto Adam he said, Woe unto thee who hast harkened not to the
>> voice of the LORD thy God, but rather to her who is thy inferior;
>> for thou wast free to choose. Now shalt thou be banished from the
>> Marketplace and the Free Play thereof; neither shalt thou pluck the
>> fruit from the Trees of Life and Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
>>25
>> In the sweat of they face shalt thou earn thy bread, and bankruptcy
>> shall be thy lot; and upon thy back, as a burden unto thee, thou
>> shalt bear Big Government; for thou has sinned.
>>26
>> And the LORD God said unto the man, Behold, thy knowledge of sex
>> shall be as a curse upon thee and they generations; and thy loins
>> shall be a trial to thee.
>>27
>> For whensoever thou goest into a public place, then shall thy member
>> rise up; when thou sitteth to eat and drink among they fellows,
>> likewise shall it rise up; yea, even when thou standeth before the
>> people to preach unto them in my name, shall it rise up, and be a
>> scandal unto thee, and make an unseemly lump in thy garments; yet
>> when thou goest into thy wife shall thy member wither, and rise up
>> not.
>>28
>> And then the LORD God was silent, and waxed sad, and made as if to
>> leave them there. But he turned and spoke softly unto Adam and his
>> wife Eve, saying, Knowest thou something? Mine only hope is this:
>> That someday, ye have children who do unto you the way ye have done
>> unto Me.
>>
>> -- Tony Hendra & Sean Kelly
>>
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>>
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>>rick wrote:
>>
>>>with all the vitriolic comments from both sides of an argument, is it
>>>any wonder we all will eventually resort to extreme measures. i'll be
>>>the first to publicly admit that i would if given the chance, shoot
>>>any christian / muslim, (or what ever religion they are) who will
>>>threaten me because they'll never be satisfied that i have not met
>>>their idea of the righteousness. really, is it just me, or are
>>>criminals, criminals...unless in their mind their interpretation of
>>>god is on their side is the right one to have? you know, god is a
>>>great moral idea, that is until you throw people into the
>>>equation...then it sucks because we suck...always have, always will.
>>>
>>>as an ex carpenter i still have access to wood, nails and other
>>>stuff...go for it.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>Deej,
a couple of thoughts...
If you have not tried it yet, get a script for Ultracet (Tramadol), soft as
a feather.
Get an Ebay copy of Peter Egoscue book Pain Free, A Revolutionary Method for
Stopping Pain. He has written half a dozen well organized books on this
subject and it works fantastic.
HTH,
El Miguel
"Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42c84a0c$1@linux...
> I've got this recurring back problem. I'm usually able to deal with this
in
> a wholistic way, but occasionally it just has to be slammed with drugs to
> knock down the pain threshold and allow the muscles to relax once they
have
> succeeded in going into spasm. I've got some *really* strong meds here for
> that purpose. It's been over a year since I took any of these and I don't
> take rec.drugs, so I have no tolerance for this stuff at all. Last night I
> had to pull out the big guns. Woke up this morning so hung over that I
feel
> like spoiled meat.
>
> I've got a session tonight and I've been cleaning up the studio today. I
> have beel playing some CD tracks for my listening pleasure (Jason Miles-To
> Grover With Love) and to get my ears back in tune with the world. I've
been
> so wierded out because it didn't sound right at all, but I'm so fried that
I
> have been walking around thinking it was my brain that was doing bizarre
> things to my hearing.
>
> I just noticed that my DAW running Wavelab is slaved to one of my MECS
which
> is turned on and sending 48kHz timecode to my RME card which is playing
back
> the audio tracks..
>
> Think I'll go for a long walk now and try to clear the cobwebs.
>
> Gawd.........I hate hangovers.
>
> ;o}
>
>Hi Miguel. I did get some Ultracet. Very effective and not even close to the
toxic hit that the opiates induce. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. I've
also got some stuff here called Flexeril..........very effective but
extrtemely mood altering, in a bad way. I shouldn't be allowed to interact
with other living creatures for 24 hours after taking this stuff so though
it relieves the physical pain, unless it's just unbearable, I think I'd
rather just take the pain than take the meds ;o(
Yoga followed by hanging upside down like a bat using gravity boots seems to
be the most effective remedy if I can get to it before I go into lock down
mode..
I'll check this book out.
Thanks,
Deej
"Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:42d92fc9$1@linux...
> Deej,
>
> a couple of thoughts...
>
> If you have not tried it yet, get a script for Ultracet (Tramadol), soft
as
> a feather.
>
> Get an Ebay copy of Peter Egoscue book Pain Free, A Revolutionary Method
for
> Stopping Pain. He has written half a dozen well organized books on this
> subject and it works fantastic.
>
> HTH,
>
> El Miguel
>
>
>
> "Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:42c84a0c$1@linux...
> > I've got this recurring back problem. I'm usually able to deal with this
> in
> > a wholistic way, but occasionally it just has to be slammed with drugs
to
> > knock down the pain threshold and allow the muscles to relax once they
> have
> > succeeded in going into spasm. I've got some *really* strong meds here
for
> > that purpose. It's been over a year since I took any of these and I
don't
> > take rec.drugs, so I have no tolerance for this stuff at all. Last night
I
> > had to pull out the big guns. Woke up this morning so hung over that I
> feel
> > like spoiled meat.
> >
> > I've got a session tonight and I've been cleaning up the studio today. I
> > have beel playing some CD tracks for my listening pleasure (Jason
Miles-To
> > Grover With Love) and to get my ears back in tune with the world. I've
> been
> > so wierded out because it didn't sound right at all, but I'm so fried
that
> I
> > have been walking around thinking it was my brain that was doing bizarre
> > things to my hearing.
> >
> > I just noticed that my DAW running Wavelab is slaved to one of my MECS
> which
> > is turned on and sending 48kHz timecode to my RME card which is playing
> back
> > the audio tracks..
> >
> > Think I'll go for a long walk now and try to clear the cobwebs.
> >
> > Gawd.........I hate hangovers.
> >
> > ;o}
> >
> >
>
>Hello TC,
Your url didn't work for me. Can you repost it?
What desk model are you refering to?
El Miguel
"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
news:42c946b8@linux...
> Hey, I just saw that same desk he's got at Staples.. I was going to buy
it,
> but I picked up this one on sale instead at Staples for $130 (CDN):
> http://store1.yimg.com/I/meritline_1849_145624040
>
> The area under the monitor fits rack gear perfectly, you can
> fit a full length 2 space item on each side, and 2 1/2 space rack
> items stacked in the center.. I've got the rest of my rack gear and a Mec
> underneath, along with 2 computer towers.. damn I feel organized now..
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC
>
>
>
> justcron wrote:
> > http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0507/03/D04-235568.htm
> >
> >"Jef Knight" <"Jef Knight"> wrote:
>
>I've heard it said before, usually by United Statesians, that these
>verifiable facts are non-the-less lies. I have not, however, seen anyone
>actually put forth proof that what I am saying is incorrect.
>
>So, DC, for you to say that I am lying you must put for some evidence
>for your claim. Prove it!
>
>jef
Here you go,
July 15, 2005, 8:04 a.m.
Our Wars Over the War
“The fault is not in our stars.”
Victor Davis Hanson
Ever since September 11, there has been an alternative narrative
about this war embraced by the Left. In this mythology, the attack
on September 11 had in some vague way something to do with
American culpability.
Either we were unfairly tilting toward Israel, or had been unkind
to Muslims. Perhaps, as Sen. Patty Murray intoned, we needed
to match the good works of bin Laden to capture the hearts
and minds of Muslim peoples.
The fable continues that the United States itself was united
after the attack even during its preparations to retaliate in
Afghanistan. But then George Bush took his eye off the ball.
He let bin Laden escape, and worst of all, unilaterally and
preemptively, went into secular Iraq — an unnecessary war
for oil, hegemony, Israel, or Halliburton, something in
Ted Kennedy’s words “cooked up in Texas.”
In any case, there was no connection between al Qaeda
and Saddam, and thus terrorists only arrived in Iraq after
we did.
That tale goes on. The Iraqi fiasco is now a hopeless quagmire.
The terrorists are paying us back for it in places like London and Madrid.
Still worse, here at home we have lost many of our civil liberties
to the Patriot Act and forsaken our values at Guantanamo Bay
under the pretext of war. Nancy Pelosi could not understand
the continued detentions in Guantanamo since the war in
Afghanistan is in her eyes completely finished.
In this fable, we are not safer as a nation. George Bush’s policies
have increased the terror threat as we saw recently in the
London bombing. We have now been at war longer than
World War II. We still have no plan to defeat our enemies,
and thus must set a timetable to withdraw from Iraq.
Islamic terrorism cannot be defeated militarily nor can
democracy be “implanted by force.” So it is time to return
to seeing the terrorist killing as a criminal justice matter
— a tolerable nuisance addressed by writs and indictments,
while we give more money to the Middle East and begin
paying attention to the “root causes” of terror.
That is the dominant narrative of the Western Left and
at times it finds its way into mainstream Democratic
-party thinking. Yet every element of it is false.
Prior to 9/11, the United States had given an aggregate
of over $50 billion to Egypt, and had allotted about the
same amount of aid to Israel as to its frontline enemies.
We had helped to save Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo, Somalia,
Kuwait
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