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Paris sound different under XP vs Me ? -update [message #70221] Tue, 11 July 2006 11:23 Go to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Hi to all.
I was experiencing some things working under Xp with external wordclock as
opposed to with Me.
I don't know ifothers share similar oppinipns but DJ posted that he also
though some mid frequencies differences which could be XP or/and wordclock.
I am nexperiencing the following...
I get some sound spikes in random frequencies...
Sound although clean in the mids frequencies do not stay at the same level
all the way in a song.
I have a difficult time in using compressors to solve these things !!
Maybe the eq is producing this... remeber that I found that the eq behaves
differently under XP as opposed to under Me.
Anyone maybe heard similar things ??
I really need to be certain on that because I want to know who and what to
blame for that.
Maybe also an external wordclock could introduce such things ??
I do not get any crackles or other anomalies though.
I use Soundscape's wordclock as a master and i distribute crazy after that
but very stable afterall.
Sound is punchy in the mids except for the problems I described.
One test you can make and see (in a dense mix) is to dial a 80 hz in Paris
eq with 0.1 Q and give a healthy 8-12 dbs.
That gives great analogish kick sound.
In a mix though the level of that 80 hz is not constant giving spikes (in
volume increses) very often...
I would like your input here !!!!!
Regards,
Dimitrios
Re: Paris sound different under XP vs Me ? -update [message #70276 is a reply to message #70221] Wed, 12 July 2006 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
charles is currently offline  charles   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2
Registered: July 2006
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Just how does xp sound different than Me

I'm using Me on an old 133 PIII and I'm thinking of upgrading to xp.

I get memory errors -- i though of just upgrading hard drives but i read
paris runs faster under xp....

It there an audio problem with xp?

thanks

charles


"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:44b3ecb3$1@linux...
>
> Hi to all.
> I was experiencing some things working under Xp with external wordclock as
> opposed to with Me.
> I don't know ifothers share similar oppinipns but DJ posted that he also
> though some mid frequencies differences which could be XP or/and
> wordclock.
> I am nexperiencing the following...
> I get some sound spikes in random frequencies...
> Sound although clean in the mids frequencies do not stay at the same level
> all the way in a song.
> I have a difficult time in using compressors to solve these things !!
> Maybe the eq is producing this... remeber that I found that the eq behaves
> differently under XP as opposed to under Me.
> Anyone maybe heard similar things ??
> I really need to be certain on that because I want to know who and what to
> blame for that.
> Maybe also an external wordclock could introduce such things ??
> I do not get any crackles or other anomalies though.
> I use Soundscape's wordclock as a master and i distribute crazy after that
> but very stable afterall.
> Sound is punchy in the mids except for the problems I described.
> One test you can make and see (in a dense mix) is to dial a 80 hz in Paris
> eq with 0.1 Q and give a healthy 8-12 dbs.
> That gives great analogish kick sound.
> In a mix though the level of that 80 hz is not constant giving spikes (in
> volume increses) very often...
> I would like your input here !!!!!
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
Re: Paris sound different under XP vs Me ? -update [message #70282 is a reply to message #70276] Thu, 13 July 2006 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mike audet[1] is currently offline  mike audet[1]
Messages: 129
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
Hi Charles,

It's been suggested that the 98 driver somehow handles clipping differently
that the XP driver. I haven't done a scientific comparison, but I think
that I've noticed that in Windows 98, if I turn up the gain on a channel
until it's clipping, I get a smoother, fuller, more pleasant distortion than
under xp.

Of course, until doing some careful comparisons, it could just be in my head.

Mike
"charles" <encycloware@cox.net> wrote:
>Just how does xp sound different than Me
>
>I'm using Me on an old 133 PIII and I'm thinking of upgrading to xp.
>
>I get memory errors -- i though of just upgrading hard drives but i read

>paris runs faster under xp....
>
>It there an audio problem with xp?
>
>thanks
>
>charles
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:44b3ecb3$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi to all.
>> I was experiencing some things working under Xp with external wordclock
as
>> opposed to with Me.
>> I don't know ifothers share similar oppinipns but DJ posted that he also
>> though some mid frequencies differences which could be XP or/and
>> wordclock.
>> I am nexperiencing the following...
>> I get some sound spikes in random frequencies...
>> Sound although clean in the mids frequencies do not stay at the same level
>> all the way in a song.
>> I have a difficult time in using compressors to solve these things !!
>> Maybe the eq is producing this... remeber that I found that the eq behaves
>> differently under XP as opposed to under Me.
>> Anyone maybe heard similar things ??
>> I really need to be certain on that because I want to know who and what
to
>> blame for that.
>> Maybe also an external wordclock could introduce such things ??
>> I do not get any crackles or other anomalies though.
>> I use Soundscape's wordclock as a master and i distribute crazy after
that
>> but very stable afterall.
>> Sound is punchy in the mids except for the problems I described.
>> One test you can make and see (in a dense mix) is to dial a 80 hz in Paris
>> eq with 0.1 Q and give a healthy 8-12 dbs.
>> That gives great analogish kick sound.
>> In a mix though the level of that 80 hz is not constant giving spikes
(in
>> volume increses) very often...
>> I would like your input here !!!!!
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>
>
Re: Paris sound different under XP vs Me ? -update [message #70293 is a reply to message #70282] Thu, 13 July 2006 10:42 Go to previous message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
Senior Member
When I was running XP, I noticed something which I perceived to be different
from the sound I heard when using ME. Sounded more *contemporary*. I guess
contemporary would mean more-like-digital, less-like-analog with the
difference being in the upper mids. Around the same time though I was
experimenting with using a Benchmark DAC-1 and an external WC. I know these
made a difference. there was a transitional period when I was running a dual
boot system with XP and ME. I actually didn't find that running Paris on XP
was a problem or sounded bad. I liked it and if I would have been able to
use more than one ADAT module per MEC, I would have probablyu stayed with
XP.........but I know that when I went back to ME full time, it was like
putting on a pair of old comfortable slippers. Not sure why, but it was.



"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:44b637a8$1@linux...
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> It's been suggested that the 98 driver somehow handles clipping
differently
> that the XP driver. I haven't done a scientific comparison, but I think
> that I've noticed that in Windows 98, if I turn up the gain on a channel
> until it's clipping, I get a smoother, fuller, more pleasant distortion
than
> under xp.
>
> Of course, until doing some careful comparisons, it could just be in my
head.
>
> Mike
> "charles" <encycloware@cox.net> wrote:
> >Just how does xp sound different than Me
> >
> >I'm using Me on an old 133 PIII and I'm thinking of upgrading to xp.
> >
> >I get memory errors -- i though of just upgrading hard drives but i read
>
> >paris runs faster under xp....
> >
> >It there an audio problem with xp?
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >charles
> >
> >
> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
news:44b3ecb3$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hi to all.
> >> I was experiencing some things working under Xp with external wordclock
> as
> >> opposed to with Me.
> >> I don't know ifothers share similar oppinipns but DJ posted that he
also
> >> though some mid frequencies differences which could be XP or/and
> >> wordclock.
> >> I am nexperiencing the following...
> >> I get some sound spikes in random frequencies...
> >> Sound although clean in the mids frequencies do not stay at the same
level
> >> all the way in a song.
> >> I have a difficult time in using compressors to solve these things !!
> >> Maybe the eq is producing this... remeber that I found that the eq
behaves
> >> differently under XP as opposed to under Me.
> >> Anyone maybe heard similar things ??
> >> I really need to be certain on that because I want to know who and what
> to
> >> blame for that.
> >> Maybe also an external wordclock could introduce such things ??
> >> I do not get any crackles or other anomalies though.
> >> I use Soundscape's wordclock as a master and i distribute crazy after
> that
> >> but very stable afterall.
> >> Sound is punchy in the mids except for the problems I described.
> >> One test you can make and see (in a dense mix) is to dial a 80 hz in
Paris
> >> eq with 0.1 Q and give a healthy 8-12 dbs.
> >> That gives great analogish kick sound.
> >> In a mix though the level of that 80 hz is not constant giving spikes
> (in
> >> volume increses) very often...
> >> I would like your input here !!!!!
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >
> >
>
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