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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76276 is a reply to message #76266] |
Tue, 21 November 2006 19:14   |
Neil
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Neil.. Pleas ekeep us updated with your creamware experience.. Good Luck..
Well, I can tellya this much: I'm muthafucking pissed already - apparently
they don't use one copy protection key code, they use one copy protection
key code for each MUTHAFUCKING INDIVIDUAL SUBAPPLICATION/EFX PACKAGE! Goddammit...
there are twenty-fucking-six of them in this package, and I can either enter
them all manually, or wait til I can download the individualized file for
this card once I can log onto their website registration section & use that
file (which supposedly takes care of this in in fell swoop). Problem is,
it's been like 30 minutes since I sent the e-mail requesting authorization
& still nothing... so I assume that it is NOT an automated system, so do
I now need to stop everything & wait til those bastards wake up over there
in Europe?
The secondary problem is, the names on the reg key section (if I want to
manually enter them) don't match the names on the key number info I was provided.
For example: the installation software says: "Effects Package", and "Effects
Extension", but the key info I have says "Effects Package I" & "Effects Package
II"... do I assume that Effects Package II is the same as Effects Package
Extension, or if it's something I don't even have, and I'll fuck up the installation
if I try that to see if it works?
For Fourteen-Hundred-Mutha-Fuckin Dollars, you would think you'd get better
support & clearer documentation than this.
FUCK!!!!
Deej, what'd you do when you installed yours?
Neil
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76278 is a reply to message #76276] |
Tue, 21 November 2006 18:29 |
EK Sound
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Sounds a bit like HD... ;-) our PT I-loc has quite a few lines on it.
David.
Neil wrote:
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>Neil.. Pleas ekeep us updated with your creamware experience.. Good Luck..
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> Well, I can tellya this much: I'm muthafucking pissed already - apparently
> they don't use one copy protection key code, they use one copy protection
> key code for each MUTHAFUCKING INDIVIDUAL SUBAPPLICATION/EFX PACKAGE! Goddammit...
> there are twenty-fucking-six of them in this package, and I can either enter
> them all manually, or wait til I can download the individualized file for
> this card once I can log onto their website registration section & use that
> file (which supposedly takes care of this in in fell swoop). Problem is,
> it's been like 30 minutes since I sent the e-mail requesting authorization
> & still nothing... so I assume that it is NOT an automated system, so do
> I now need to stop everything & wait til those bastards wake up over there
> in Europe?
>
> The secondary problem is, the names on the reg key section (if I want to
> manually enter them) don't match the names on the key number info I was provided.
> For example: the installation software says: "Effects Package", and "Effects
> Extension", but the key info I have says "Effects Package I" & "Effects Package
> II"... do I assume that Effects Package II is the same as Effects Package
> Extension, or if it's something I don't even have, and I'll fuck up the installation
> if I try that to see if it works?
>
> For Fourteen-Hundred-Mutha-Fuckin Dollars, you would think you'd get better
> support & clearer documentation than this.
>
> FUCK!!!!
>
> Deej, what'd you do when you installed yours?
>
> Neil
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76279 is a reply to message #76278] |
Tue, 21 November 2006 19:25 |
Neil
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IME, a $1,400 PCI card had better not only sound kick-ass, but
damn near clean my house, do my laundry & give me a blowjob as
well... but at the very least, it should provide a flawless &
smooth installation process.
Over an hour now & still no word from the Krauts. What time is it over there?
Is it morning yet? Or are they perhaps on one of their government-mandated
30-day vacations?
Neil
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Sounds a bit like HD... ;-) our PT I-loc has quite a few lines on it.
>
>David.
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>Neil wrote:
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>Neil.. Pleas ekeep us updated with your creamware experience.. Good Luck..
>>
>>
>> Well, I can tellya this much: I'm muthafucking pissed already - apparently
>> they don't use one copy protection key code, they use one copy protection
>> key code for each MUTHAFUCKING INDIVIDUAL SUBAPPLICATION/EFX PACKAGE!
Goddammit...
>> there are twenty-fucking-six of them in this package, and I can either
enter
>> them all manually, or wait til I can download the individualized file
for
>> this card once I can log onto their website registration section & use
that
>> file (which supposedly takes care of this in in fell swoop). Problem is,
>> it's been like 30 minutes since I sent the e-mail requesting authorization
>> & still nothing... so I assume that it is NOT an automated system, so
do
>> I now need to stop everything & wait til those bastards wake up over there
>> in Europe?
>>
>> The secondary problem is, the names on the reg key section (if I want
to
>> manually enter them) don't match the names on the key number info I was
provided.
>> For example: the installation software says: "Effects Package", and "Effects
>> Extension", but the key info I have says "Effects Package I" & "Effects
Package
>> II"... do I assume that Effects Package II is the same as Effects Package
>> Extension, or if it's something I don't even have, and I'll fuck up the
installation
>> if I try that to see if it works?
>>
>> For Fourteen-Hundred-Mutha-Fuckin Dollars, you would think you'd get better
>> support & clearer documentation than this.
>>
>> FUCK!!!!
>>
>> Deej, what'd you do when you installed yours?
>>
>> Neil
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76282 is a reply to message #76276] |
Tue, 21 November 2006 20:56 |
DJ
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> Deej, what'd you do when you installed yours?
Did Ali send you an allkey file? You should have received one by e-mail. All
you do is jut point your install query to this file and it loads everything
at once in one simple step.
"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:4563b277$1@linux...
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> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >Neil.. Pleas ekeep us updated with your creamware experience.. Good
Luck..
>
> Well, I can tellya this much: I'm muthafucking pissed already - apparently
> they don't use one copy protection key code, they use one copy protection
> key code for each MUTHAFUCKING INDIVIDUAL SUBAPPLICATION/EFX PACKAGE!
Goddammit...
> there are twenty-fucking-six of them in this package, and I can either
enter
> them all manually, or wait til I can download the individualized file for
> this card once I can log onto their website registration section & use
that
> file (which supposedly takes care of this in in fell swoop). Problem is,
> it's been like 30 minutes since I sent the e-mail requesting authorization
> & still nothing... so I assume that it is NOT an automated system, so do
> I now need to stop everything & wait til those bastards wake up over there
> in Europe?
>
> The secondary problem is, the names on the reg key section (if I want to
> manually enter them) don't match the names on the key number info I was
provided.
> For example: the installation software says: "Effects Package", and
"Effects
> Extension", but the key info I have says "Effects Package I" & "Effects
Package
> II"... do I assume that Effects Package II is the same as Effects Package
> Extension, or if it's something I don't even have, and I'll fuck up the
installation
> if I try that to see if it works?
>
> For Fourteen-Hundred-Mutha-Fuckin Dollars, you would think you'd get
better
> support & clearer documentation than this.
>
> FUCK!!!!
>
> Deej, what'd you do when you installed yours?
>
> Neil
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76286 is a reply to message #76281] |
Tue, 21 November 2006 22:23 |
TCB
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This will provide little solace at this point, but 'counter-intuitive' at
first blush often becomes 'very powerful' at later date. This isn't a particularly
'Paris-like' attitude, as it was designed from the ground up to have a gentle
learning curve to anyone familiar with a mixing desk and tape.
It's a little like Notepad vs. Emacs. Anyone who has ever used a typewriter
can create and print a grocery list with Notepad. But that's pretty much
all it's good for. It won't let you insert a chart, change much in the way
of colors, auto-indent lists, do any real print formatting, and it certainly
won't automatically color code xml, run perl scripts in a shell, keep track
of how many curly braces you have open, or replace every 'MakeRegexLater'
with '/^[0-9][a-Z]{5,36}.$/'
This might seem pointless, and I can hear you screaming that you just want
to make a grocery list, but I distinctly remember thinking the SCOPE environment
qualified to be described as 'tricky to learn but easy to use once it's learned'
instead of just 'hard to use.' Also, it was designed by Germans.
So give it a little time, and be glad you don't have to learn Emacs,
TCB
"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote:
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>Further observations:
>
>Without a doubt, THE SINGULAR most counter-intuitve application
>of any variety that I have ever come across... I now have it
>installed, but still not "working" - in the sense that I can't
>figure out how to internally route anything to anything.
>The manual is no help whatsoever in this regard.
>
>More to come, I'm sure.
>
>Neil
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>"Neil" <IOUOIU@IO.com> wrote:
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>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>...and how is the carnage so far????
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>>Pretty fuckin carniverous... see my response to Lamont.
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>>How long did it take you to get the goddamn authorizatyion/registration
>login
>>info e-mailed to you?
>>
>>Neil
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76288 is a reply to message #76286] |
Tue, 21 November 2006 22:38 |
Neil
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>Also, it was designed by Germans.
My current car is a BMW, my last one was a Mercedes... I just
want to drive them well, I don't want to learn how to build
them.
Likewise, I don't want to feel like I have to become a fargin'
computer programmer just to use this bitch.
It's got until the weekend to:
1.) Get me a fucking authorization code that will let me log in
& download the key code file (i'm pretty sure I'm missing some
modules, because I was having to guess at what some of the
subapplications were, since the nomenclature is different from
the documentation to the software).
2.) Reinstall fully & correctly once I have that & be able to
route between SX & Pulsar without a hitch.
3.) Work flawlessy & glitchlessly with my RME cards active at
the same time for tracking needs... this was GOING to be an
option that I was willing to find a workaround for, but since
it's now pissed me off from the get-go, it's an option no
longer... it's a mandate.
If it doesn't do all this by that time, it's going back. I have
no fucking sense of humor for expensive esoteric shit that
doesn't make my life easier & allow me to be more musically
productive. If I wanted to be Rube Fucking Goldberg about this
shit, I may as well start building my own discrete console from
scratch.
Had it.
Neil
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76290 is a reply to message #76282] |
Tue, 21 November 2006 22:47 |
Neil
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"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> Deej, what'd you do when you installed yours?
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>Did Ali send you an allkey file? You should have received one by e-mail.
All
>you do is jut point your install query to this file and it loads everything
>at once in one simple step.
NO! Nothing yet! So, I guess I just sit & wait until I get this
now & try a re-install.
Neil
>"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:4563b277$1@linux...
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>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Neil.. Pleas ekeep us updated with your creamware experience.. Good
>Luck..
>>
>> Well, I can tellya this much: I'm muthafucking pissed already - apparently
>> they don't use one copy protection key code, they use one copy protection
>> key code for each MUTHAFUCKING INDIVIDUAL SUBAPPLICATION/EFX PACKAGE!
>Goddammit...
>> there are twenty-fucking-six of them in this package, and I can either
>enter
>> them all manually, or wait til I can download the individualized file
for
>> this card once I can log onto their website registration section & use
>that
>> file (which supposedly takes care of this in in fell swoop). Problem is,
>> it's been like 30 minutes since I sent the e-mail requesting authorization
>> & still nothing... so I assume that it is NOT an automated system, so
do
>> I now need to stop everything & wait til those bastards wake up over there
>> in Europe?
>>
>> The secondary problem is, the names on the reg key section (if I want
to
>> manually enter them) don't match the names on the key number info I was
>provided.
>> For example: the installation software says: "Effects Package", and
>"Effects
>> Extension", but the key info I have says "Effects Package I" & "Effects
>Package
>> II"... do I assume that Effects Package II is the same as Effects Package
>> Extension, or if it's something I don't even have, and I'll fuck up the
>installation
>> if I try that to see if it works?
>>
>> For Fourteen-Hundred-Mutha-Fuckin Dollars, you would think you'd get
>better
>> support & clearer documentation than this.
>>
>> FUCK!!!!
>>
>> Deej, what'd you do when you installed yours?
>>
>> Neil
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76291 is a reply to message #76286] |
Wed, 22 November 2006 03:39 |
Jesse Skeens
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>This will provide little solace at this point, but 'counter-intuitive' at
>first blush often becomes 'very powerful' at later date. This isn't a particularly
>'Paris-like' attitude, as it was designed from the ground up to have a gentle
>learning curve to anyone familiar with a mixing desk and tape.
>
>It's a little like Notepad vs. Emacs. Anyone who has ever used a typewriter
>can create and print a grocery list with Notepad. But that's pretty much
>all it's good for. It won't let you insert a chart, change much in the way
>of colors, auto-indent lists, do any real print formatting, and it certainly
>won't automatically color code xml, run perl scripts in a shell, keep track
>of how many curly braces you have open, or replace every 'MakeRegexLater'
>with '/^[0-9][a-Z]{5,36}.$/'
>
>This might seem pointless, and I can hear you screaming that you just want
>to make a grocery list, but I distinctly remember thinking the SCOPE environment
>qualified to be described as 'tricky to learn but easy to use once it's
learned'
>instead of just 'hard to use.' Also, it was designed by Germans.
>
>So give it a little time, and be glad you don't have to learn Emacs,
Scope is very to use once you get a little time on it. Neil doesnt seem
to have much patience at this point though.
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76298 is a reply to message #76288] |
Wed, 22 November 2006 08:07 |
TCB
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Alrighty then. My apologies for offering a few words of encouragement.
TCB
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>Also, it was designed by Germans.
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>want to drive them well, I don't want to learn how to build
>them.
>
>Likewise, I don't want to feel like I have to become a fargin'
>computer programmer just to use this bitch.
>
>It's got until the weekend to:
>
>1.) Get me a fucking authorization code that will let me log in
>& download the key code file (i'm pretty sure I'm missing some
>modules, because I was having to guess at what some of the
>subapplications were, since the nomenclature is different from
>the documentation to the software).
>
>2.) Reinstall fully & correctly once I have that & be able to
>route between SX & Pulsar without a hitch.
>
>3.) Work flawlessy & glitchlessly with my RME cards active at
>the same time for tracking needs... this was GOING to be an
>option that I was willing to find a workaround for, but since
>it's now pissed me off from the get-go, it's an option no
>longer... it's a mandate.
>
>If it doesn't do all this by that time, it's going back. I have
>no fucking sense of humor for expensive esoteric shit that
>doesn't make my life easier & allow me to be more musically
>productive. If I wanted to be Rube Fucking Goldberg about this
>shit, I may as well start building my own discrete console from
>scratch.
>
>Had it.
>
>Neil
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76300 is a reply to message #76288] |
Wed, 22 November 2006 08:00 |
DJ
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Neil,
Call Ali Fawaz:
Creamware Audio USA & Canada
Office: 604-435-0540
support: 604-435-5158
He will get your allkey code situation straightened out and can answer your
questions.
Once that's received, call me and I'll walk you through the install and get
you up and running.with the mixer. Also, probably the best source for info
is the guy you bought this card from. He's all over this system and can tell
you everything...and*will* tell you everything. My install went well, but I
had the allkey file. Give Gary a call. He's Creamware's *unofficial* US
tech support. Ali is the *official* tech support. Both of them helped me out
and were glad to do it. Gary is a recording engineer, knows this system
inside, out and backwards and is very good at explaining it.expecially to
someone who wants to use it *normally*, but to his credit, he even
understood what I was wanting to do with the Paris interfacing. He knows his
stuff.
Deej
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4563e25c$1@linux...
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> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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> >Also, it was designed by Germans.
>
> My current car is a BMW, my last one was a Mercedes... I just
> want to drive them well, I don't want to learn how to build
> them.
>
> Likewise, I don't want to feel like I have to become a fargin'
> computer programmer just to use this bitch.
>
> It's got until the weekend to:
>
> 1.) Get me a fucking authorization code that will let me log in
> & download the key code file (i'm pretty sure I'm missing some
> modules, because I was having to guess at what some of the
> subapplications were, since the nomenclature is different from
> the documentation to the software).
>
> 2.) Reinstall fully & correctly once I have that & be able to
> route between SX & Pulsar without a hitch.
>
> 3.) Work flawlessy & glitchlessly with my RME cards active at
> the same time for tracking needs... this was GOING to be an
> option that I was willing to find a workaround for, but since
> it's now pissed me off from the get-go, it's an option no
> longer... it's a mandate.
>
> If it doesn't do all this by that time, it's going back. I have
> no fucking sense of humor for expensive esoteric shit that
> doesn't make my life easier & allow me to be more musically
> productive. If I wanted to be Rube Fucking Goldberg about this
> shit, I may as well start building my own discrete console from
> scratch.
>
> Had it.
>
> Neil
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76302 is a reply to message #76292] |
Wed, 22 November 2006 08:07 |
DJ
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Neil,
Think of the Scope routing window as being very much like the Paris virtual
patchbay but with the ability to configure it to talk to different drivers
and to configure itself to different mixers.
In order for Cubase to interface with the Scope system, the ASIO
configuration you want Cubase to *see* needs to be set up first. that's why
Scope launches automatically at Windows startup.to load these drivers so
that when you laujnch cubase SX, your ASIO drivers are available. Scope "is"
launching when you boot your computer....right?
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45645479$1@linux...
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> "Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >Scope is very to use once you get a little time on it. Neil
> >doesnt seem to have much patience at this point though.
>
> You're right, I don't... BTW, it's now about twelve hours from
> when I first sent the e-mails requesting the login info....
> and...
>
> ...you guessed it, still no response.
>
> BTW, Thad, another example of German-engineered product that
> doesn't take a degree in quantum physics to operate is
> CubaseSX... everyone said that had a steep learning curve, but
> I didn't have any problems getting that app configured &
> operating it fro the get-go. This thing is like some
> bizzarre "M.-Night-Shamalyan-meets-the-DaVinci-Code" version of
> a music application.
>
> Neil
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76307 is a reply to message #76298] |
Wed, 22 November 2006 09:08 |
DJ
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Thad,
He's as frustrated with the Scope situation as I was the first time I saw
RME's Totalmix. To my thinkiing, the Totalmix should be called
"Totalcrap"....but Neil probably understands it completely and it made
perfect sense to him the minute h saw it........sorta like the Scope outing
window did to me (sigh). I can relate to his frustration in that regard.
Sometimes I don't want to even get into anything new because I've been up
and down so many learning curves that I feel too burned out. The "jack of
all trades, master of none" thing starts to rear it's ugly head late at
night when you'r sitting in the control room trying to figure out some
niggling thing that is holding you up from what you want to accomplish, then
you need to get the manual out for some other thing to get this to happen
and suddenly you are looking at a stack of user's guides and manuals three
feet high and realizing how little you know, or how much you've forgotten
about each one.Thank goodness for newsgroups like this.
I hope you have a good holiday wherein tomorrow we shall slaughter millions
of fowl who have been so severly inbred that they can no longer function as
viable living things in a natural environment whil'st we watch football and
gluttonously celebrate the usury of our native bretheren and the abuse of
their land, culture, spirituality and hospitality.
;o)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:456467c6$1@linux...
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> Alrighty then. My apologies for offering a few words of encouragement.
>
> TCB
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >
> >"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Also, it was designed by Germans.
> >
> >want to drive them well, I don't want to learn how to build
> >them.
> >
> >Likewise, I don't want to feel like I have to become a fargin'
> >computer programmer just to use this bitch.
> >
> >It's got until the weekend to:
> >
> >1.) Get me a fucking authorization code that will let me log in
> >& download the key code file (i'm pretty sure I'm missing some
> >modules, because I was having to guess at what some of the
> >subapplications were, since the nomenclature is different from
> >the documentation to the software).
> >
> >2.) Reinstall fully & correctly once I have that & be able to
> >route between SX & Pulsar without a hitch.
> >
> >3.) Work flawlessy & glitchlessly with my RME cards active at
> >the same time for tracking needs... this was GOING to be an
> >option that I was willing to find a workaround for, but since
> >it's now pissed me off from the get-go, it's an option no
> >longer... it's a mandate.
> >
> >If it doesn't do all this by that time, it's going back. I have
> >no fucking sense of humor for expensive esoteric shit that
> >doesn't make my life easier & allow me to be more musically
> >productive. If I wanted to be Rube Fucking Goldberg about this
> >shit, I may as well start building my own discrete console from
> >scratch.
> >
> >Had it.
> >
> >Neil
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76314 is a reply to message #76307] |
Wed, 22 November 2006 11:18 |
Neil
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Thad, don't take my comments as though I don't appreciate your
words of encouragement, I'm just fed up with things like:
a.) Overzealous copy protection (a separate code for each of 26
applets? C'MON!!!!).
b.) Installation software that doesn't install things correctly
c.) User interfaces that are so confusing as to cause my
synapses to short-circuit...
....and this thing has all three of those.
Deej, BTW, I did call that support #, and the guy a I talked to
(I assume it was Ali... he "sounded like an Ali" - if I can say
that without being accused of accent-profiling), and he said
that the reason I hadn't gotten a reply yet is that Creamware
has a big Christmas special going on & that their mailboxes were
full (yet another fortuitous sign - a company that's not
prepared to handle a large volume of support services... what's
going to happen when all those users who're buying all the stuff
they're moving out the door right now need THEIR keyfiles or
other suport?), but he said he'd try to see if he could get the
keyfile for my card & e-mail it to me.
Will keep you posted.... the carnage continues.
Neil
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>Thad,
>
>He's as frustrated with the Scope situation as I was the first time I saw
>RME's Totalmix. To my thinkiing, the Totalmix should be called
>"Totalcrap"....but Neil probably understands it completely and it made
>perfect sense to him the minute h saw it........sorta like the Scope outing
>window did to me (sigh). I can relate to his frustration in that regard.
>Sometimes I don't want to even get into anything new because I've been up
>and down so many learning curves that I feel too burned out. The "jack of
>all trades, master of none" thing starts to rear it's ugly head late at
>night when you'r sitting in the control room trying to figure out some
>niggling thing that is holding you up from what you want to accomplish,
then
>you need to get the manual out for some other thing to get this to happen
>and suddenly you are looking at a stack of user's guides and manuals three
>feet high and realizing how little you know, or how much you've forgotten
>about each one.Thank goodness for newsgroups like this.
>
>I hope you have a good holiday wherein tomorrow we shall slaughter millions
>of fowl who have been so severly inbred that they can no longer function
as
>viable living things in a natural environment whil'st we watch football
and
>gluttonously celebrate the usury of our native bretheren and the abuse of
>their land, culture, spirituality and hospitality.
>
>;o)
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:456467c6$1@linux...
>>
>> Alrighty then. My apologies for offering a few words of encouragement.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Also, it was designed by Germans.
>> >
>> >want to drive them well, I don't want to learn how to build
>> >them.
>> >
>> >Likewise, I don't want to feel like I have to become a fargin'
>> >computer programmer just to use this bitch.
>> >
>> >It's got until the weekend to:
>> >
>> >1.) Get me a fucking authorization code that will let me log in
>> >& download the key code file (i'm pretty sure I'm missing some
>> >modules, because I was having to guess at what some of the
>> >subapplications were, since the nomenclature is different from
>> >the documentation to the software).
>> >
>> >2.) Reinstall fully & correctly once I have that & be able to
>> >route between SX & Pulsar without a hitch.
>> >
>> >3.) Work flawlessy & glitchlessly with my RME cards active at
>> >the same time for tracking needs... this was GOING to be an
>> >option that I was willing to find a workaround for, but since
>> >it's now pissed me off from the get-go, it's an option no
>> >longer... it's a mandate.
>> >
>> >If it doesn't do all this by that time, it's going back. I have
>> >no fucking sense of humor for expensive esoteric shit that
>> >doesn't make my life easier & allow me to be more musically
>> >productive. If I wanted to be Rube Fucking Goldberg about this
>> >shit, I may as well start building my own discrete console from
>> >scratch.
>> >
>> >Had it.
>> >
>> >Neil
>>
>
>
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76318 is a reply to message #76302] |
Wed, 22 November 2006 11:37 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Senior Member |
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"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>Neil,
>
>Think of the Scope routing window as being very much like the Paris virtual
>patchbay but with the ability to configure it to talk to different drivers
>and to configure itself to different mixers.
Yes, I noticed that aspect of it right away, but as I mentioned,
I don't think all the modules got installed, because I can't
even find some of them in order to "virtually patch" them.
>In order for Cubase to interface with the Scope system, the >ASIO configuration
you want Cubase to *see* needs to be set up
>first. that's why Scope launches automatically at Windows
>startup.to load these drivers so that when you laujnch cubase
>SX, your ASIO drivers are available. Scope "is" launching when
>you boot your computer....right?
NOPE! That's another thing that seems to not have gone right
with the install... I can manually launch it now that I
physically moved certain files from the "app/bin" folder from
the CD/DVD drive to the same folder on the HD, but something's
still not right... SX certainly doesn't see any of the Pulsar
plugins or I/o's (if I'm supposed to be able to see the ASIO
i/o's from within SX - dunno about that one), and Pulsar doesn't
appear to see any of the SX ASIO i/o's. I can see the plugin
dll's & whatnot if I open up the appropriate folders on the HD,
so I have no clue why they wouldn't be showing up in SX (ok just
ONE of them is... some "XLT Recorder" thing - which makes it
even more strange - why one & none of the others?
Neil
>
>
>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45645479$1@linux...
>>
>> "Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Scope is very to use once you get a little time on it. Neil
>> >doesnt seem to have much patience at this point though.
>>
>> You're right, I don't... BTW, it's now about twelve hours from
>> when I first sent the e-mails requesting the login info....
>> and...
>>
>> ...you guessed it, still no response.
>>
>> BTW, Thad, another example of German-engineered product that
>> doesn't take a degree in quantum physics to operate is
>> CubaseSX... everyone said that had a steep learning curve, but
>> I didn't have any problems getting that app configured &
>> operating it fro the get-go. This thing is like some
>> bizzarre "M.-Night-Shamalyan-meets-the-DaVinci-Code" version of
>> a music application.
>>
>> Neil
>
>
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76319 is a reply to message #76314] |
Wed, 22 November 2006 12:07 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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Well Neil, as you informed us your current car is a beamer and you last car
a Mercedes so you must have the knotroll to hire someone in the lowly profession
of computer programming to help you out. Or not, of course. But if interface
simplicity is the primary concern Creamware gear might not be the best for
you.
TCB
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Thad, don't take my comments as though I don't appreciate your
>words of encouragement, I'm just fed up with things like:
>
>a.) Overzealous copy protection (a separate code for each of 26
>applets? C'MON!!!!).
>
>b.) Installation software that doesn't install things correctly
>
>c.) User interfaces that are so confusing as to cause my
>synapses to short-circuit...
>
>...and this thing has all three of those.
>
>Deej, BTW, I did call that support #, and the guy a I talked to
>(I assume it was Ali... he "sounded like an Ali" - if I can say
>that without being accused of accent-profiling), and he said
>that the reason I hadn't gotten a reply yet is that Creamware
>has a big Christmas special going on & that their mailboxes were
>full (yet another fortuitous sign - a company that's not
>prepared to handle a large volume of support services... what's
>going to happen when all those users who're buying all the stuff
>they're moving out the door right now need THEIR keyfiles or
>other suport?), but he said he'd try to see if he could get the
>keyfile for my card & e-mail it to me.
>
>Will keep you posted.... the carnage continues.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>Thad,
>>
>>He's as frustrated with the Scope situation as I was the first time I saw
>>RME's Totalmix. To my thinkiing, the Totalmix should be called
>>"Totalcrap"....but Neil probably understands it completely and it made
>>perfect sense to him the minute h saw it........sorta like the Scope outing
>>window did to me (sigh). I can relate to his frustration in that regard.
>>Sometimes I don't want to even get into anything new because I've been
up
>>and down so many learning curves that I feel too burned out. The "jack
of
>>all trades, master of none" thing starts to rear it's ugly head late at
>>night when you'r sitting in the control room trying to figure out some
>>niggling thing that is holding you up from what you want to accomplish,
>then
>>you need to get the manual out for some other thing to get this to happen
>>and suddenly you are looking at a stack of user's guides and manuals three
>>feet high and realizing how little you know, or how much you've forgotten
>>about each one.Thank goodness for newsgroups like this.
>>
>>I hope you have a good holiday wherein tomorrow we shall slaughter millions
>>of fowl who have been so severly inbred that they can no longer function
>as
>>viable living things in a natural environment whil'st we watch football
>and
>>gluttonously celebrate the usury of our native bretheren and the abuse
of
>>their land, culture, spirituality and hospitality.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:456467c6$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Alrighty then. My apologies for offering a few words of encouragement.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>Also, it was designed by Germans.
>>> >
>>> >want to drive them well, I don't want to learn how to build
>>> >them.
>>> >
>>> >Likewise, I don't want to feel like I have to become a fargin'
>>> >computer programmer just to use this bitch.
>>> >
>>> >It's got until the weekend to:
>>> >
>>> >1.) Get me a fucking authorization code that will let me log in
>>> >& download the key code file (i'm pretty sure I'm missing some
>>> >modules, because I was having to guess at what some of the
>>> >subapplications were, since the nomenclature is different from
>>> >the documentation to the software).
>>> >
>>> >2.) Reinstall fully & correctly once I have that & be able to
>>> >route between SX & Pulsar without a hitch.
>>> >
>>> >3.) Work flawlessy & glitchlessly with my RME cards active at
>>> >the same time for tracking needs... this was GOING to be an
>>> >option that I was willing to find a workaround for, but since
>>> >it's now pissed me off from the get-go, it's an option no
>>> >longer... it's a mandate.
>>> >
>>> >If it doesn't do all this by that time, it's going back. I have
>>> >no fucking sense of humor for expensive esoteric shit that
>>> >doesn't make my life easier & allow me to be more musically
>>> >productive. If I wanted to be Rube Fucking Goldberg about this
>>> >shit, I may as well start building my own discrete console from
>>> >scratch.
>>> >
>>> >Had it.
>>> >
>>> >Neil
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76322 is a reply to message #76318] |
Wed, 22 November 2006 11:50 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Neil,
Uninstall Scope using the uninstall utillity in the windows Program menu.
Then go shopping, do some other things and wait for your *allkey* file. when
that arrives, give me a call and I'll boot my machine and walk you through
the install. It's a little confusing, but not bad. ..but the *allkey* file
is necessary to kep from losing your mind completely.
I left you amessage at the house about an hour ago.
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:456498e7$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >Neil,
> >
> >Think of the Scope routing window as being very much like the Paris
virtual
> >patchbay but with the ability to configure it to talk to different
drivers
> >and to configure itself to different mixers.
>
> Yes, I noticed that aspect of it right away, but as I mentioned,
> I don't think all the modules got installed, because I can't
> even find some of them in order to "virtually patch" them.
>
> >In order for Cubase to interface with the Scope system, the >ASIO
configuration
> you want Cubase to *see* needs to be set up
> >first. that's why Scope launches automatically at Windows
> >startup.to load these drivers so that when you laujnch cubase
> >SX, your ASIO drivers are available. Scope "is" launching when
> >you boot your computer....right?
>
> NOPE! That's another thing that seems to not have gone right
> with the install... I can manually launch it now that I
> physically moved certain files from the "app/bin" folder from
> the CD/DVD drive to the same folder on the HD, but something's
> still not right... SX certainly doesn't see any of the Pulsar
> plugins or I/o's (if I'm supposed to be able to see the ASIO
> i/o's from within SX - dunno about that one), and Pulsar doesn't
> appear to see any of the SX ASIO i/o's. I can see the plugin
> dll's & whatnot if I open up the appropriate folders on the HD,
> so I have no clue why they wouldn't be showing up in SX (ok just
> ONE of them is... some "XLT Recorder" thing - which makes it
> even more strange - why one & none of the others?
>
> Neil
>
>
> >
> >
> >"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45645479$1@linux...
> >>
> >> "Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Scope is very to use once you get a little time on it. Neil
> >> >doesnt seem to have much patience at this point though.
> >>
> >> You're right, I don't... BTW, it's now about twelve hours from
> >> when I first sent the e-mails requesting the login info....
> >> and...
> >>
> >> ...you guessed it, still no response.
> >>
> >> BTW, Thad, another example of German-engineered product that
> >> doesn't take a degree in quantum physics to operate is
> >> CubaseSX... everyone said that had a steep learning curve, but
> >> I didn't have any problems getting that app configured &
> >> operating it fro the get-go. This thing is like some
> >> bizzarre "M.-Night-Shamalyan-meets-the-DaVinci-Code" version of
> >> a music application.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76324 is a reply to message #76322] |
Wed, 22 November 2006 12:10 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Trust me Neil if anyone can walk you through shit it's DJ...
Wait that doesn't sound right.
Don
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:4564a779@linux...
> Neil,
>
> Uninstall Scope using the uninstall utillity in the windows Program menu.
> Then go shopping, do some other things and wait for your *allkey* file.
> when
> that arrives, give me a call and I'll boot my machine and walk you through
> the install. It's a little confusing, but not bad. ..but the *allkey* file
> is necessary to kep from losing your mind completely.
>
> I left you amessage at the house about an hour ago.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:456498e7$1@linux...
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> >Neil,
>> >
>> >Think of the Scope routing window as being very much like the Paris
> virtual
>> >patchbay but with the ability to configure it to talk to different
> drivers
>> >and to configure itself to different mixers.
>>
>> Yes, I noticed that aspect of it right away, but as I mentioned,
>> I don't think all the modules got installed, because I can't
>> even find some of them in order to "virtually patch" them.
>>
>> >In order for Cubase to interface with the Scope system, the >ASIO
> configuration
>> you want Cubase to *see* needs to be set up
>> >first. that's why Scope launches automatically at Windows
>> >startup.to load these drivers so that when you laujnch cubase
>> >SX, your ASIO drivers are available. Scope "is" launching when
>> >you boot your computer....right?
>>
>> NOPE! That's another thing that seems to not have gone right
>> with the install... I can manually launch it now that I
>> physically moved certain files from the "app/bin" folder from
>> the CD/DVD drive to the same folder on the HD, but something's
>> still not right... SX certainly doesn't see any of the Pulsar
>> plugins or I/o's (if I'm supposed to be able to see the ASIO
>> i/o's from within SX - dunno about that one), and Pulsar doesn't
>> appear to see any of the SX ASIO i/o's. I can see the plugin
>> dll's & whatnot if I open up the appropriate folders on the HD,
>> so I have no clue why they wouldn't be showing up in SX (ok just
>> ONE of them is... some "XLT Recorder" thing - which makes it
>> even more strange - why one & none of the others?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45645479$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> "Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Scope is very to use once you get a little time on it. Neil
>> >> >doesnt seem to have much patience at this point though.
>> >>
>> >> You're right, I don't... BTW, it's now about twelve hours from
>> >> when I first sent the e-mails requesting the login info....
>> >> and...
>> >>
>> >> ...you guessed it, still no response.
>> >>
>> >> BTW, Thad, another example of German-engineered product that
>> >> doesn't take a degree in quantum physics to operate is
>> >> CubaseSX... everyone said that had a steep learning curve, but
>> >> I didn't have any problems getting that app configured &
>> >> operating it fro the get-go. This thing is like some
>> >> bizzarre "M.-Night-Shamalyan-meets-the-DaVinci-Code" version of
>> >> a music application.
>> >>
>> >> Neil
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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| Re: Pulsar Card just arrived... [message #76325 is a reply to message #76324] |
Wed, 22 November 2006 12:18 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
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LOL!!!!!!
;oD
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4564ac7d$1@linux...
> Trust me Neil if anyone can walk you through shit it's DJ...
>
> Wait that doesn't sound right.
>
> Don
>
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:4564a779@linux...
> > Neil,
> >
> > Uninstall Scope using the uninstall utillity in the windows Program
menu.
> > Then go shopping, do some other things and wait for your *allkey* file.
> > when
> > that arrives, give me a call and I'll boot my machine and walk you
through
> > the install. It's a little confusing, but not bad. ..but the *allkey*
file
> > is necessary to kep from losing your mind completely.
> >
> > I left you amessage at the house about an hour ago.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> > "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:456498e7$1@linux...
> >>
> >> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >> >Neil,
> >> >
> >> >Think of the Scope routing window as being very much like the Paris
> > virtual
> >> >patchbay but with the ability to configure it to talk to different
> > drivers
> >> >and to configure itself to different mixers.
> >>
> >> Yes, I noticed that aspect of it right away, but as I mentioned,
> >> I don't think all the modules got installed, because I can't
> >> even find some of them in order to "virtually patch" them.
> >>
> >> >In order for Cubase to interface with the Scope system, the >ASIO
> > configuration
> >> you want Cubase to *see* needs to be set up
> >> >first. that's why Scope launches automatically at Windows
> >> >startup.to load these drivers so that when you laujnch cubase
> >> >SX, your ASIO drivers are available. Scope "is" launching when
> >> >you boot your computer....right?
> >>
> >> NOPE! That's another thing that seems to not have gone right
> >> with the install... I can manually launch it now that I
> >> physically moved certain files from the "app/bin" folder from
> >> the CD/DVD drive to the same folder on the HD, but something's
> >> still not right... SX certainly doesn't see any of the Pulsar
> >> plugins or I/o's (if I'm supposed to be able to see the ASIO
> >> i/o's from within SX - dunno about that one), and Pulsar doesn't
> >> appear to see any of the SX ASIO i/o's. I can see the plugin
> >> dll's & whatnot if I open up the appropriate folders on the HD,
> >> so I have no clue why they wouldn't be showing up in SX (ok just
> >> ONE of them is... some "XLT Recorder" thing - which makes it
> >> even more strange - why one & none of the others?
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45645479$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Scope is very to use once you get a little time on it. Neil
> >> >> >doesnt seem to have much patience at this point though.
> >> >>
> >> >> You're right, I don't... BTW, it's now about twelve hours from
> >> >> when I first sent the e-mails requesting the login info....
> >> >> and...
> >> >>
> >> >> ...you guessed it, still no response.
> >> >>
> >> >> BTW, Thad, another example of German-engineered product that
> >> >> doesn't take a degree in quantum physics to operate is
> >> >> CubaseSX... everyone said that had a steep learning curve, but
> >> >> I didn't have any problems getting that app configured &
> >> >> operating it fro the get-go. This thing is like some
> >> >> bizzarre "M.-Night-Shamalyan-meets-the-DaVinci-Code" version of
> >> >> a music application.
> >> >>
> >> >> Neil
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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