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| OT:politics . . . sorry, but what the . . . ?! [message #94106] |
Thu, 27 December 2007 22:03  |
Sarah
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost from
last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "
Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't
Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really look
like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?
I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to do,
things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
Thoughts?
S
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| Re: OT:politics . . . sorry, but what the . . . ?! [message #94107 is a reply to message #94106] |
Thu, 27 December 2007 23:23  |
Neil
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Is it possible she misspoke? There's only about a half-million
Bin Laden's in that family
Neil
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
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>This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost
from
>last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
>murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "
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>Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't
>Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
>murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really
look
>like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?
>
>I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to
do,
>things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
>Thoughts?
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>S
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| Re: OT:politics . . . sorry, but what the . . . ?! [message #94108 is a reply to message #94107] |
Fri, 28 December 2007 03:47 |
Sarah
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Well, that is the question, I guess. But it's still pretty bizarre that he
didn't question it. Or if he did question it, why would that be edited out?
I hope she misspoke, because it would be pretty creepy think bin Laden's
been dead for some time and nobody told us.
Not that anything would surprise me much anymore.
S
"Neil" <OIOI@OI.OIUcom> wrote in message news:47749653$1@linux...
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> Is it possible she misspoke? There's only about a half-million
> Bin Laden's in that family
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> Neil
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> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
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>>This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost
> from
>>last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
>>murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "
>>
>>Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't
>
>>Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
>>murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really
> look
>>like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?
>>
>>I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to
> do,
>>things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
>>Thoughts?
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>>S
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| Re: OT:politics . . . sorry, but what the . . . ?! [message #94109 is a reply to message #94106] |
Fri, 28 December 2007 07:14 |
Aaron Allen
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Somewhere in the far reaches of my tattered mind I think I remember a quip
about this name deal... usama is not osama.... different dudes.
AA
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:47749298@linux...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
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> This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost
> from last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
> murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "
>
> Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't
> Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
> murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really
> look like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?
>
> I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to
> do, things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
> Thoughts?
>
> S
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| Re: OT:politics . . . sorry, but what the . . . ?! [message #94111 is a reply to message #94106] |
Fri, 28 December 2007 09:06 |
TCB
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There is a pretty strong consensus that bin Laden is still alive. He has released
audio tapes that discuss very recent events. Yes, they could be fakes, and
there are certainly reasons why people in power would prefer bin Laden to
remain alive even if he isn't, but people I trust think they are genuine.
That's enough for me since this is a case where I have to rely on expert
opinion.
One great mystery to me is why the US press is so reverent about Bhutto.
My personal guess is that it's because she was what so many US newspeople
wish they were; pretty, eloquent, rich, on TV, and educated at Harvard. Bhutto
and her family were, even by third world potentate standards, shamelessly
avaricious and corrupt.
I hope Pakistan can weather this storm. It has been grossly underserved by
its leadership.
TCB
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
>
>This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost
from
>last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
>murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "
>
>Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't
>Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
>murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really
look
>like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?
>
>I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to
do,
>things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
>Thoughts?
>
>S
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| Re: OT:politics . . . sorry, but what the . . . ?! [message #94117 is a reply to message #94106] |
Fri, 28 December 2007 12:47 |
steve the artguy
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Sarah-
there are lots of alternate universes that people live in.
This is one of them:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html
I got this link in about two seconds by googling "osama funeral"
-steve
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
>
>This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost
from
>last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
>murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "
>
>Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't
>Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
>murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really
look
>like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?
>
>I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to
do,
>things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
>Thoughts?
>
>S
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| Re: OT:politics . . . sorry, but what the . . . ?! [message #94130 is a reply to message #94117] |
Fri, 28 December 2007 18:45 |
Sarah
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Interesting. Well, apparently Omar Sheikh has been in jail since 2002 for
killing Daniel Pearl, but if it were true that bin Laden's been dead since
2001, that wouldn't rule Sheikh out. It also makes sense, though, that a
diabetic with kidney failure is not going to last long without access to
good medical care, which would be hard to get if one has to remain in
hiding.
Not that it makes a big difference in the broad scheme of things whether bin
Laden is or isn't alive, it's just sad that a person can't believe anything
anymore. "Truth" is owned, like everything else, and I hate the fact that
when we're presented with conflicting "truths" we just have to decide who's
lying based only on our own viewpoints, or gut feelings.
This is why I've been trying to ignore politics, but it's hard, because the
more these untrustworthy snakes in power screw things up, the worse off all
of us are. I wish Oregon would secede from the Union. Or maybe Washington,
Oregon, and California could become a country. We could call it Oceania. Oh
wait . . . we're already in Oceania . . .
OK, I'll stop now. Back to the recliner. I'm "retreading" the first season
of "Deadwood." Good stuff. :)
S
"steve the artguy" <artguy@eaglenebula.com> wrote in message
news:477552dd$1@linux...
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> Sarah-
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> there are lots of alternate universes that people live in.
>
> This is one of them:
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> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html
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> I got this link in about two seconds by googling "osama funeral"
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> -steve
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> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
>>
>>This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost
> from
>>last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
>>murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "
>>
>>Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't
>
>>Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
>>murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really
> look
>>like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?
>>
>>I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to
> do,
>>things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
>>Thoughts?
>>
>>S
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