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| Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91640] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 07:40  |
Rod Lincoln
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I've come up against a problem that I havn't had until know. When I mix using
bounce to disk I get a crackling on the bounced file. It doesn't crackle
during the bounce, but when I play back the bounced file, it crackles on
the left channel.
So far I've tried removing all plugs on the master buss, and I've tried bouncing
individual sub groups. Crackling is present in all instances.
I will be trying to figure this out today, but if anyone has had this before,
I would welcome the advice.
I'm not pushing the levels so it's not "over" induced and I run my master
fader at -0.03
Crackling is present even when bouncing a sub mix with one track on it. No
overload light on submix.
Rod
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91641 is a reply to message #91640] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 07:47  |
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Hi Rod.. Try bouncing onto another drive on you system to take the load off
of your recording drive.
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>I've come up against a problem that I havn't had until know. When I mix
using
>bounce to disk I get a crackling on the bounced file. It doesn't crackle
>during the bounce, but when I play back the bounced file, it crackles on
>the left channel.
>So far I've tried removing all plugs on the master buss, and I've tried
bouncing
>individual sub groups. Crackling is present in all instances.
>I will be trying to figure this out today, but if anyone has had this before,
>I would welcome the advice.
>
>I'm not pushing the levels so it's not "over" induced and I run my master
>fader at -0.03
>Crackling is present even when bouncing a sub mix with one track on it.
No
>overload light on submix.
>Rod
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91650 is a reply to message #91648] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 09:37 |
Rod Lincoln
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No, I've thought of that and ruled that out. I Played the bounced files in
both the ppj that I mixed in, plus I opened them in a fresh ppj and tested
on various submixes. Snap, crackle, and Pop on all.
At this point I'm suspecting a 1. bad eds card 2. word clock issues 3. corrupt
ppj. My gut tells me it's a corrupt. We'll see
rod
"Neil" <IOUOI@IOU.com> wrote:
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>Could it be the EDS card that the bounced channels are playing
>though? IOW, are you importing the bounced mix into a different
>submix/EDS card that's not being utilized in the main mix?
>
>Neil
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>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>>Lamont...Tried it...no worky. Keep those ideas coming though. thanks
>>rod
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Rod.. Try bouncing onto another drive on you system to take the load
>>off
>>>of your recording drive.
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I've come up against a problem that I havn't had until know. When I mix
>>>using
>>>>bounce to disk I get a crackling on the bounced file. It doesn't crackle
>>>>during the bounce, but when I play back the bounced file, it crackles
>on
>>>>the left channel.
>>>>So far I've tried removing all plugs on the master buss, and I've tried
>>>bouncing
>>>>individual sub groups. Crackling is present in all instances.
>>>>I will be trying to figure this out today, but if anyone has had this
>before,
>>>>I would welcome the advice.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not pushing the levels so it's not "over" induced and I run my master
>>>>fader at -0.03
>>>>Crackling is present even when bouncing a sub mix with one track on it.
>>>No
>>>>overload light on submix.
>>>>Rod
>>>
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91655 is a reply to message #91650] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 11:13 |
Aaron Allen
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Have you tried bouncing the bus through an global external insert then using
SPDIF to tap/record to a set of tracks, ala BT Autotune trick?
AA
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4718dd58$1@linux...
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> No, I've thought of that and ruled that out. I Played the bounced files in
> both the ppj that I mixed in, plus I opened them in a fresh ppj and tested
> on various submixes. Snap, crackle, and Pop on all.
> At this point I'm suspecting a 1. bad eds card 2. word clock issues 3.
> corrupt
> ppj. My gut tells me it's a corrupt. We'll see
> rod
> "Neil" <IOUOI@IOU.com> wrote:
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>>Could it be the EDS card that the bounced channels are playing
>>though? IOW, are you importing the bounced mix into a different
>>submix/EDS card that's not being utilized in the main mix?
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Lamont...Tried it...no worky. Keep those ideas coming though. thanks
>>>rod
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Rod.. Try bouncing onto another drive on you system to take the load
>>>off
>>>>of your recording drive.
>>>>
>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I've come up against a problem that I havn't had until know. When I mix
>>>>using
>>>>>bounce to disk I get a crackling on the bounced file. It doesn't
>>>>>crackle
>>>>>during the bounce, but when I play back the bounced file, it crackles
>>on
>>>>>the left channel.
>>>>>So far I've tried removing all plugs on the master buss, and I've tried
>>>>bouncing
>>>>>individual sub groups. Crackling is present in all instances.
>>>>>I will be trying to figure this out today, but if anyone has had this
>>before,
>>>>>I would welcome the advice.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not pushing the levels so it's not "over" induced and I run my
>>>>>master
>>>>>fader at -0.03
>>>>>Crackling is present even when bouncing a sub mix with one track on it.
>>>>No
>>>>>overload light on submix.
>>>>>Rod
>>>>
>>>
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91656 is a reply to message #91650] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 11:24 |
EK Sound
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Any plugs running? Autotune is bad for this if the input to the plug is
hot.
David.
Rod Lincoln wrote:
> No, I've thought of that and ruled that out. I Played the bounced files in
> both the ppj that I mixed in, plus I opened them in a fresh ppj and tested
> on various submixes. Snap, crackle, and Pop on all.
> At this point I'm suspecting a 1. bad eds card 2. word clock issues 3. corrupt
> ppj. My gut tells me it's a corrupt. We'll see
> rod
> "Neil" <IOUOI@IOU.com> wrote:
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>>Could it be the EDS card that the bounced channels are playing
>>though? IOW, are you importing the bounced mix into a different
>>submix/EDS card that's not being utilized in the main mix?
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Lamont...Tried it...no worky. Keep those ideas coming though. thanks
>>>rod
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Rod.. Try bouncing onto another drive on you system to take the load
>>>
>>>off
>>>
>>>>of your recording drive.
>>>>
>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I've come up against a problem that I havn't had until know. When I mix
>>>>
>>>>using
>>>>
>>>>>bounce to disk I get a crackling on the bounced file. It doesn't crackle
>>>>>during the bounce, but when I play back the bounced file, it crackles
>>
>>on
>>
>>>>>the left channel.
>>>>>So far I've tried removing all plugs on the master buss, and I've tried
>>>>
>>>>bouncing
>>>>
>>>>>individual sub groups. Crackling is present in all instances.
>>>>>I will be trying to figure this out today, but if anyone has had this
>>
>>before,
>>
>>>>>I would welcome the advice.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not pushing the levels so it's not "over" induced and I run my master
>>>>>fader at -0.03
>>>>>Crackling is present even when bouncing a sub mix with one track on it.
>>>>
>>>>No
>>>>
>>>>>overload light on submix.
>>>>>Rod
>>>>
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91657 is a reply to message #91656] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 11:50 |
Rod Lincoln
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Yeah...all sorts of plugs. No auto tune though. It's not related anything
too hot...happens sometimes in quite parts also
It looks like it may by related to the UAD 4.7 plugs, the one with the Neve
88rs. I re-ghosted my system back to a version with UAD 4.6, did a bounce
(of course I was missing the 88rs plugs) and it was clean. At the time I
thought it was just because I had a fresh install of the OS, Paris, etc.
I then re-installed the UAD 4.7 to get back the Neve 88rs plug and I started
getting the same problem. I'm going to set up a quick mix on a fresh ppj
to rule out a corrupted ppj, but that's where I'm at right now.
Rod
EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Any plugs running? Autotune is bad for this if the input to the plug is
>hot.
>
>David.
>
>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>> No, I've thought of that and ruled that out. I Played the bounced files
in
>> both the ppj that I mixed in, plus I opened them in a fresh ppj and tested
>> on various submixes. Snap, crackle, and Pop on all.
>> At this point I'm suspecting a 1. bad eds card 2. word clock issues 3.
corrupt
>> ppj. My gut tells me it's a corrupt. We'll see
>> rod
>> "Neil" <IOUOI@IOU.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Could it be the EDS card that the bounced channels are playing
>>>though? IOW, are you importing the bounced mix into a different
>>>submix/EDS card that's not being utilized in the main mix?
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Lamont...Tried it...no worky. Keep those ideas coming though. thanks
>>>>rod
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Rod.. Try bouncing onto another drive on you system to take the load
>>>>
>>>>off
>>>>
>>>>>of your recording drive.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've come up against a problem that I havn't had until know. When I
mix
>>>>>
>>>>>using
>>>>>
>>>>>>bounce to disk I get a crackling on the bounced file. It doesn't crackle
>>>>>>during the bounce, but when I play back the bounced file, it crackles
>>>
>>>on
>>>
>>>>>>the left channel.
>>>>>>So far I've tried removing all plugs on the master buss, and I've tried
>>>>>
>>>>>bouncing
>>>>>
>>>>>>individual sub groups. Crackling is present in all instances.
>>>>>>I will be trying to figure this out today, but if anyone has had this
>>>
>>>before,
>>>
>>>>>>I would welcome the advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not pushing the levels so it's not "over" induced and I run my
master
>>>>>>fader at -0.03
>>>>>>Crackling is present even when bouncing a sub mix with one track on
it.
>>>>>
>>>>>No
>>>>>
>>>>>>overload light on submix.
>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>
>>
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91658 is a reply to message #91655] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 11:56 |
Rod Lincoln
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I thought of that, but havn't tried it yet. 2 reasons. 1.right now, I'm using
the spdif on the A card to connetc to the DAC-1, which connects to my monitors.
I'd have to change that all around, and right now, I'm hoing not to have
to go through that, as it's next to impossible to get to the back of my Mecs.
2. It seems like, while that may prove to be an acceptable work around, I'd
like to get to the bottom of whats going on that causes the problem in the
first place.
I'll probably end up trying it, if I can't get it sussed out.
check my response to EK's post for what I've found out so far.
Thanks
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Have you tried bouncing the bus through an global external insert then using
>SPDIF to tap/record to a set of tracks, ala BT Autotune trick?
>
>AA
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:4718dd58$1@linux...
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>> No, I've thought of that and ruled that out. I Played the bounced files
in
>> both the ppj that I mixed in, plus I opened them in a fresh ppj and tested
>> on various submixes. Snap, crackle, and Pop on all.
>> At this point I'm suspecting a 1. bad eds card 2. word clock issues 3.
>> corrupt
>> ppj. My gut tells me it's a corrupt. We'll see
>> rod
>> "Neil" <IOUOI@IOU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Could it be the EDS card that the bounced channels are playing
>>>though? IOW, are you importing the bounced mix into a different
>>>submix/EDS card that's not being utilized in the main mix?
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Lamont...Tried it...no worky. Keep those ideas coming though. thanks
>>>>rod
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Rod.. Try bouncing onto another drive on you system to take the load
>>>>off
>>>>>of your recording drive.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've come up against a problem that I havn't had until know. When I
mix
>>>>>using
>>>>>>bounce to disk I get a crackling on the bounced file. It doesn't
>>>>>>crackle
>>>>>>during the bounce, but when I play back the bounced file, it crackles
>>>on
>>>>>>the left channel.
>>>>>>So far I've tried removing all plugs on the master buss, and I've tried
>>>>>bouncing
>>>>>>individual sub groups. Crackling is present in all instances.
>>>>>>I will be trying to figure this out today, but if anyone has had this
>>>before,
>>>>>>I would welcome the advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not pushing the levels so it's not "over" induced and I run my
>>>>>>master
>>>>>>fader at -0.03
>>>>>>Crackling is present even when bouncing a sub mix with one track on
it.
>>>>>No
>>>>>>overload light on submix.
>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91664 is a reply to message #91657] |
Fri, 19 October 2007 17:17 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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drag. Well, I guess you could always pull up a more current box, set up
super low latency and native/adat pipe the plugs if Paris won't get along.
AA
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4718fc92$1@linux...
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> Yeah...all sorts of plugs. No auto tune though. It's not related anything
> too hot...happens sometimes in quite parts also
> It looks like it may by related to the UAD 4.7 plugs, the one with the
> Neve
> 88rs. I re-ghosted my system back to a version with UAD 4.6, did a bounce
> (of course I was missing the 88rs plugs) and it was clean. At the time I
> thought it was just because I had a fresh install of the OS, Paris, etc.
> I then re-installed the UAD 4.7 to get back the Neve 88rs plug and I
> started
> getting the same problem. I'm going to set up a quick mix on a fresh ppj
> to rule out a corrupted ppj, but that's where I'm at right now.
> Rod
> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>Any plugs running? Autotune is bad for this if the input to the plug is
>
>>hot.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>> No, I've thought of that and ruled that out. I Played the bounced files
> in
>>> both the ppj that I mixed in, plus I opened them in a fresh ppj and
>>> tested
>>> on various submixes. Snap, crackle, and Pop on all.
>>> At this point I'm suspecting a 1. bad eds card 2. word clock issues 3.
> corrupt
>>> ppj. My gut tells me it's a corrupt. We'll see
>>> rod
>>> "Neil" <IOUOI@IOU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Could it be the EDS card that the bounced channels are playing
>>>>though? IOW, are you importing the bounced mix into a different
>>>>submix/EDS card that's not being utilized in the main mix?
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Lamont...Tried it...no worky. Keep those ideas coming though. thanks
>>>>>rod
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Rod.. Try bouncing onto another drive on you system to take the
>>>>>>load
>>>>>
>>>>>off
>>>>>
>>>>>>of your recording drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've come up against a problem that I havn't had until know. When I
> mix
>>>>>>
>>>>>>using
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>bounce to disk I get a crackling on the bounced file. It doesn't
>>>>>>>crackle
>>>>>>>during the bounce, but when I play back the bounced file, it crackles
>>>>
>>>>on
>>>>
>>>>>>>the left channel.
>>>>>>>So far I've tried removing all plugs on the master buss, and I've
>>>>>>>tried
>>>>>>
>>>>>>bouncing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>individual sub groups. Crackling is present in all instances.
>>>>>>>I will be trying to figure this out today, but if anyone has had this
>>>>
>>>>before,
>>>>
>>>>>>>I would welcome the advice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm not pushing the levels so it's not "over" induced and I run my
> master
>>>>>>>fader at -0.03
>>>>>>>Crackling is present even when bouncing a sub mix with one track on
> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>overload light on submix.
>>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>>
>>>
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91897 is a reply to message #91895] |
Wed, 24 October 2007 06:47 |
Rod Lincoln
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Yeah, I'll take you up on that. So you think by turning hyperthreading on,
and usuing your dual core fix, which will fix the hyperthreading issue, it
will fix the problem?
Just to give you a little more info. I just tried a bounce to disk of a mix
that only contained 1 track of UAD plugs..Uad Fairchild and Cambridge. I
still got clicks and pops (about 6 total). when I get rid of all the UAD
plugs there are no clicks or pops.
I have 3 UAD cards.
I'd be willing to give it a try. Thanks
Rod
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
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>Hi Rod,
>
>I'm pretty sure this happens because there aren't enough CPU resources.
>If you have hyperthreading turned off, I've been using a dual core fix for
>a couple of months now with no issues. We could try turning hyperthreading
>on and using the fix to see if that solves the crackle.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Mike
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Well...I had to go out of town for a couple days and since I've got back
>I've
>>been trouoble shooting the problem I posted about last week.
>>I've definatly got it narrowed down to the UAD plugs. Now I think it may
>>be a bad UAD card. Not sure yet, still more tests to do tommorrow. It's
>either
>>a software rev. mismatch with Paris, or a card. I ghosted my system back
>>to the 4.6 UAD version and I still get clicks and pops. I think I have
a
>>4.5 version ghosted. going to try that tommorrow. If it still has the pops,
>>I'll start pulling cards. Got 3 of em.
>>When I get rid of the UAD plugs the pops go away.
>>No, I'm not driving the plugs too hard. :-)
>>No overs anywhere. I set up an incrediably safe mix for testing this.
>>Rod
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91902 is a reply to message #91897] |
Wed, 24 October 2007 08:21 |
mike audet[1]
Messages: 129
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Hi Rod,
I'll post some instructions on my website later today.
I think what is happening is that the PCI bus is tying up the 1 cpu and samples
are overflowing a buffer and not making it to disk. With a second CPU. it
may be enough to keep things moving smoothly. We'll just have to try it.
All the best,
Mike
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Yeah, I'll take you up on that. So you think by turning hyperthreading on,
>and usuing your dual core fix, which will fix the hyperthreading issue,
it
>will fix the problem?
>Just to give you a little more info. I just tried a bounce to disk of a
mix
>that only contained 1 track of UAD plugs..Uad Fairchild and Cambridge. I
>still got clicks and pops (about 6 total). when I get rid of all the UAD
>plugs there are no clicks or pops.
>I have 3 UAD cards.
>I'd be willing to give it a try. Thanks
>Rod
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Rod,
>>
>>I'm pretty sure this happens because there aren't enough CPU resources.
>
>>If you have hyperthreading turned off, I've been using a dual core fix
for
>>a couple of months now with no issues. We could try turning hyperthreading
>>on and using the fix to see if that solves the crackle.
>>
>>Good luck!
>>
>>Mike
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Well...I had to go out of town for a couple days and since I've got back
>>I've
>>>been trouoble shooting the problem I posted about last week.
>>>I've definatly got it narrowed down to the UAD plugs. Now I think it may
>>>be a bad UAD card. Not sure yet, still more tests to do tommorrow. It's
>>either
>>>a software rev. mismatch with Paris, or a card. I ghosted my system back
>>>to the 4.6 UAD version and I still get clicks and pops. I think I have
>a
>>>4.5 version ghosted. going to try that tommorrow. If it still has the
pops,
>>>I'll start pulling cards. Got 3 of em.
>>>When I get rid of the UAD plugs the pops go away.
>>>No, I'm not driving the plugs too hard. :-)
>>>No overs anywhere. I set up an incrediably safe mix for testing this.
>>>Rod
>>
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91928 is a reply to message #91902] |
Wed, 24 October 2007 16:55 |
Tom Bruhl
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Rod,
In my P3 days when it got to the edge I'd get those clicks too.
I understand you don't really get three times the power from three UADs.
Maybe their resources are also on the brink?
Hey Mike, after I get the P4 happening again I'll take you up on the =
Hyperthreading fix.
Tom
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:471f6311$1@linux...
Hi Rod,
I'll post some instructions on my website later today.
I think what is happening is that the PCI bus is tying up the 1 cpu =
and samples
are overflowing a buffer and not making it to disk. With a second =
CPU. it
may be enough to keep things moving smoothly. We'll just have to try =
it.
All the best,
Mike
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Yeah, I'll take you up on that. So you think by turning =
hyperthreading on,
>and usuing your dual core fix, which will fix the hyperthreading =
issue,
it
>will fix the problem?
>Just to give you a little more info. I just tried a bounce to disk of =
a
mix
>that only contained 1 track of UAD plugs..Uad Fairchild and =
Cambridge. I
>still got clicks and pops (about 6 total). when I get rid of all the =
UAD
>plugs there are no clicks or pops.
>I have 3 UAD cards.
>I'd be willing to give it a try. Thanks
>Rod
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Rod,
>>
>>I'm pretty sure this happens because there aren't enough CPU =
resources.
>
>>If you have hyperthreading turned off, I've been using a dual core =
fix
for
>>a couple of months now with no issues. We could try turning =
hyperthreading
>>on and using the fix to see if that solves the crackle.
>>
>>Good luck!
>>
>>Mike=20
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Well...I had to go out of town for a couple days and since I've got =
back
>>I've
>>>been trouoble shooting the problem I posted about last week.
>>>I've definatly got it narrowed down to the UAD plugs. Now I think =
it may
>>>be a bad UAD card. Not sure yet, still more tests to do tommorrow. =
It's
>>either
>>>a software rev. mismatch with Paris, or a card. I ghosted my system =
back
>>>to the 4.6 UAD version and I still get clicks and pops. I think I =
have
>a
>>>4.5 version ghosted. going to try that tommorrow. If it still has =
the
pops,
>>>I'll start pulling cards. Got 3 of em.
>>>When I get rid of the UAD plugs the pops go away.=20
>>>No, I'm not driving the plugs too hard. :-)
>>>No overs anywhere. I set up an incrediably safe mix for testing =
this.
>>>Rod
>>
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In my P3 days when it got to the edge =
I'd get those=20
clicks too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I understand you don't really get three =
times the=20
power from three UADs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe their resources are also on the=20
brink?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Mike, after I get the P4 =
happening=20
again I'll take you up on the Hyperthreading fix.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:471f6311$1@linux">news:471f6311$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
Rod,<BR><BR>I'll post some instructions on my website later =
today.<BR><BR>I=20
think what is happening is that the PCI bus is tying up the 1 cpu and=20
samples<BR>are overflowing a buffer and not making it to disk. =
With a=20
second CPU. it<BR>may be enough to keep things moving smoothly. =
We'll=20
just have to try it.<BR><BR>All the =
best,<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR>"Rod=20
Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>Yeah, I'll take you up on that. So you think by =
turning=20
hyperthreading on,<BR>>and usuing your dual core fix, which will =
fix the=20
hyperthreading issue,<BR>it<BR>>will fix the problem?<BR>>Just =
to give=20
you a little more info. I just tried a bounce to disk of =
a<BR>mix<BR>>that=20
only contained 1 track of UAD plugs..Uad Fairchild and Cambridge.=20
I<BR>>still got clicks and pops (about 6 total). when I get rid of =
all the=20
UAD<BR>>plugs there are no clicks or pops.<BR>>I have 3 UAD=20
cards.<BR>>I'd be willing to give it a try. =
Thanks<BR>>Rod<BR>>"Mike=20
Audet" <mike@....> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Hi=20
Rod,<BR>>><BR>>>I'm pretty sure this happens because there =
aren't=20
enough CPU resources.<BR>><BR>>>If you have hyperthreading =
turned=20
off, I've been using a dual core fix<BR>for<BR>>>a couple of =
months now=20
with no issues. We could try turning =
hyperthreading<BR>>>on=20
and using the fix to see if that solves the=20
crackle.<BR>>><BR>>>Good luck!<BR>>><BR>>>Mike =
<BR>>>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>Well...I had to go out of town =
for a=20
couple days and since I've got =
back<BR>>>I've<BR>>>>been=20
trouoble shooting the problem I posted about last =
week.<BR>>>>I've=20
definatly got it narrowed down to the UAD plugs. Now I think it=20
may<BR>>>>be a bad UAD card. Not sure yet, still more tests =
to do=20
tommorrow. It's<BR>>>either<BR>>>>a software rev. =
mismatch with=20
Paris, or a card. I ghosted my system back<BR>>>>to the 4.6 =
UAD=20
version and I still get clicks and pops. I think I=20
have<BR>>a<BR>>>>4.5 version ghosted. going to try that =
tommorrow.=20
If it still has the<BR>pops,<BR>>>>I'll start pulling cards. =
Got 3 of=20
em.<BR>>>>When I get rid of the UAD plugs the pops go away.=20
<BR>>>>No, I'm not driving the plugs too hard. =
:-)<BR>>>>No=20
overs anywhere. I set up an incrediably safe mix for testing=20
this.<BR>>>>Rod<BR>>> <BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91933 is a reply to message #91902] |
Wed, 24 October 2007 19:01 |
mike audet[1]
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Hi Rod,
Here's the text from a post I did a little while ago. It's not quite complete.
It turns out that you also need the intaffinity flag set for it to work.
I just had that set for other reasons already, so I didn't know it was part
of the fix.
So, to add the intaffinity switch, open c:\boot.ini and add "/INTAFFINITY"
so that the line reads something like:
[Operating Systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional
- int affinity" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn /INTAFFINITY /usepmtimer
I've attached my boot.ini for reference.
The rest of my old post is as follows:
Hi All,
I'm not sure how many people this affects, but I recently picked up a C16
and was finally faced with the dual core/c16 issues first hand.
I've only tested for about an hour, but PARIS has worked perfectly for that
long without disabling the second CPU, and it froze up immediately without
the fix.
I'm using Windows XP pro with an Athlon X2 3800+ with 2 EDS cards and one
C16.
The fix is a utility that you can launch before starting PARIS that assigns
the PARIS software to one CPU. I selected CPU 1 for my tests. This leaves
the other CPU free to run a MIDI sequencer, do Windows housekeeping, or whatever.
The cpu software is here:
http://images.tomshardware.com/2004/05/28/getting_more_bang_ out_of_your_dual_processing_buck/taskassign.zip
If anyone has trouble downloading it, I could post it.
There's a tab called "application profiles" where you can browse for software
to assign a cpu affinity for it. As long as the program is running before
PARIS starts, everything seems to work fine.
Let me know if any of this is unclear.
All the best,
Mike
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi Rod,
>
>I'll post some instructions on my website later today.
>
>I think what is happening is that the PCI bus is tying up the 1 cpu and
samples
>are overflowing a buffer and not making it to disk. With a second CPU.
it
>may be enough to keep things moving smoothly. We'll just have to try it.
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yeah, I'll take you up on that. So you think by turning hyperthreading
on,
>>and usuing your dual core fix, which will fix the hyperthreading issue,
>it
>>will fix the problem?
>>Just to give you a little more info. I just tried a bounce to disk of a
>mix
>>that only contained 1 track of UAD plugs..Uad Fairchild and Cambridge.
I
>>still got clicks and pops (about 6 total). when I get rid of all the UAD
>>plugs there are no clicks or pops.
>>I have 3 UAD cards.
>>I'd be willing to give it a try. Thanks
>>Rod
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Rod,
>>>
>>>I'm pretty sure this happens because there aren't enough CPU resources.
>>
>>>If you have hyperthreading turned off, I've been using a dual core fix
>for
>>>a couple of months now with no issues. We could try turning hyperthreading
>>>on and using the fix to see if that solves the crackle.
>>>
>>>Good luck!
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Well...I had to go out of town for a couple days and since I've got back
>>>I've
>>>>been trouoble shooting the problem I posted about last week.
>>>>I've definatly got it narrowed down to the UAD plugs. Now I think it
may
>>>>be a bad UAD card. Not sure yet, still more tests to do tommorrow. It's
>>>either
>>>>a software rev. mismatch with Paris, or a card. I ghosted my system back
>>>>to the 4.6 UAD version and I still get clicks and pops. I think I have
>>a
>>>>4.5 version ghosted. going to try that tommorrow. If it still has the
>pops,
>>>>I'll start pulling cards. Got 3 of em.
>>>>When I get rid of the UAD plugs the pops go away.
>>>>No, I'm not driving the plugs too hard. :-)
>>>>No overs anywhere. I set up an incrediably safe mix for testing this.
>>>>Rod
>>>
>>
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91938 is a reply to message #91928] |
Wed, 24 October 2007 21:40 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
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After more testing, I'm not sure it's the UAD's after all. I ghosted back
to a version of the UAD that I could render (4.6) and rendered all plugs.
When bouncing the mix with no UAD's I still got a couple of clicks...these
happen in different places. Not repeatable. I think your explanation maybe
closer than you think. Maybe I'm just pushing the system to the edge. This
is a 24 bit mix, tracks and bounce. When I rendered the UAD plugs I created
several new tracks as I was doing a bit of parallel compression. That makes
sensse. Before, when testing, I just got rid of the UAD plugs...no compesastion
for the tracks, just for the test...in other words...no new new tracks added=no
new overhead-UAD plugs=no pops. Rendering the UAD plugs=more overhead because
of higher track count that offsets the UAD plugs that are now gone=pops.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Rod,
>In my P3 days when it got to the edge I'd get those clicks too.
>I understand you don't really get three times the power from three UADs.
>Maybe their resources are also on the brink?
>
>Hey Mike, after I get the P4 happening again I'll take you up on the =
>Hyperthreading fix.
>Tom
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:471f6311$1@linux...
>
> Hi Rod,
>
> I'll post some instructions on my website later today.
>
> I think what is happening is that the PCI bus is tying up the 1 cpu =
>and samples
> are overflowing a buffer and not making it to disk. With a second =
>CPU. it
> may be enough to keep things moving smoothly. We'll just have to try
=
>it.
>
> All the best,
>
> Mike
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >Yeah, I'll take you up on that. So you think by turning =
>hyperthreading on,
> >and usuing your dual core fix, which will fix the hyperthreading =
>issue,
> it
> >will fix the problem?
> >Just to give you a little more info. I just tried a bounce to disk of
=
>a
> mix
> >that only contained 1 track of UAD plugs..Uad Fairchild and =
>Cambridge. I
> >still got clicks and pops (about 6 total). when I get rid of all the
=
>UAD
> >plugs there are no clicks or pops.
> >I have 3 UAD cards.
> >I'd be willing to give it a try. Thanks
> >Rod
> >"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi Rod,
> >>
> >>I'm pretty sure this happens because there aren't enough CPU =
>resources.
> >
> >>If you have hyperthreading turned off, I've been using a dual core =
>fix
> for
> >>a couple of months now with no issues. We could try turning =
>hyperthreading
> >>on and using the fix to see if that solves the crackle.
> >>
> >>Good luck!
> >>
> >>Mike=20
> >>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Well...I had to go out of town for a couple days and since I've got
=
>back
> >>I've
> >>>been trouoble shooting the problem I posted about last week.
> >>>I've definatly got it narrowed down to the UAD plugs. Now I think =
>it may
> >>>be a bad UAD card. Not sure yet, still more tests to do tommorrow.
=
>It's
> >>either
> >>>a software rev. mismatch with Paris, or a card. I ghosted my system
=
>back
> >>>to the 4.6 UAD version and I still get clicks and pops. I think I =
>have
> >a
> >>>4.5 version ghosted. going to try that tommorrow. If it still has =
>the
> pops,
> >>>I'll start pulling cards. Got 3 of em.
> >>>When I get rid of the UAD plugs the pops go away.=20
> >>>No, I'm not driving the plugs too hard. :-)
> >>>No overs anywhere. I set up an incrediably safe mix for testing =
>this.
> >>>Rod
> >>
> >
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In my P3 days when it got to the edge =
>I'd get those=20
>clicks too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I understand you don't really get three
=
>times the=20
>power from three UADs.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe their resources are also on the=20
>brink?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Mike, after I get the P4 =
>happening=20
>again I'll take you up on the Hyperthreading fix.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:471f6311$1@linux">news:471f6311$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
> Rod,<BR><BR>I'll post some instructions on my website later =
>today.<BR><BR>I=20
> think what is happening is that the PCI bus is tying up the 1 cpu and=20
> samples<BR>are overflowing a buffer and not making it to disk. =
>With a=20
> second CPU. it<BR>may be enough to keep things moving smoothly. =
>We'll=20
> just have to try it.<BR><BR>All the =
>best,<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR>"Rod=20
> Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Yeah, I'll take you up on that. So you think by =
>turning=20
> hyperthreading on,<BR>>and usuing your dual core fix, which will =
>fix the=20
> hyperthreading issue,<BR>it<BR>>will fix the problem?<BR>>Just =
>to give=20
> you a little more info. I just tried a bounce to disk of =
>a<BR>mix<BR>>that=20
> only contained 1 track of UAD plugs..Uad Fairchild and Cambridge.=20
> I<BR>>still got clicks and pops (about 6 total). when I get rid of =
>all the=20
> UAD<BR>>plugs there are no clicks or pops.<BR>>I have 3 UAD=20
> cards.<BR>>I'd be willing to give it a try. =
>Thanks<BR>>Rod<BR>>"Mike=20
> Audet" <mike@....> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Hi=20
> Rod,<BR>>><BR>>>I'm pretty sure this happens because there =
>aren't=20
> enough CPU resources.<BR>><BR>>>If you have hyperthreading =
>turned=20
> off, I've been using a dual core fix<BR>for<BR>>>a couple of =
>months now=20
> with no issues. We could try turning =
>hyperthreading<BR>>>on=20
> and using the fix to see if that solves the=20
> crackle.<BR>>><BR>>>Good luck!<BR>>><BR>>>Mike =
>
> <BR>>>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>Well...I had to go out of town =
>for a=20
> couple days and since I've got =
>back<BR>>>I've<BR>>>>been=20
> trouoble shooting the problem I posted about last =
>week.<BR>>>>I've=20
> definatly got it narrowed down to the UAD plugs. Now I think it=20
> may<BR>>>>be a bad UAD card. Not sure yet, still more tests =
>to do=20
> tommorrow. It's<BR>>>either<BR>>>>a software rev. =
>mismatch with=20
> Paris, or a card. I ghosted my system back<BR>>>>to the 4.6 =
>UAD=20
> version and I still get clicks and pops. I think I=20
> have<BR>>a<BR>>>>4.5 version ghosted. going to try that =
>tommorrow.=20
> If it still has the<BR>pops,<BR>>>>I'll start pulling cards. =
>Got 3 of=20
> em.<BR>>>>When I get rid of the UAD plugs the pops go away.=20
> <BR>>>>No, I'm not driving the plugs too hard. =
>:-)<BR>>>>No=20
> overs anywhere. I set up an incrediably safe mix for testing=20
> this.<BR>>>>Rod<BR>>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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>and=20
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91939 is a reply to message #91933] |
Wed, 24 October 2007 21:43 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Mike...just to make sure I'm understanding you....I have a single core motherboard
cpu....are you saying this method will still work, or are you thinking I
have a dual core cpu?
Rod
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>
>
>Hi Rod,
>
>Here's the text from a post I did a little while ago. It's not quite complete.
> It turns out that you also need the intaffinity flag set for it to work.
> I just had that set for other reasons already, so I didn't know it was
part
>of the fix.
>
>So, to add the intaffinity switch, open c:\boot.ini and add "/INTAFFINITY"
>so that the line reads something like:
>
>[Operating Systems]
>multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional
>- int affinity" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn /INTAFFINITY /usepmtimer
>
>I've attached my boot.ini for reference.
>
>The rest of my old post is as follows:
>
>Hi All,
>
>I'm not sure how many people this affects, but I recently picked up a C16
>and was finally faced with the dual core/c16 issues first hand.
>
>I've only tested for about an hour, but PARIS has worked perfectly for that
>long without disabling the second CPU, and it froze up immediately without
>the fix.
>
>I'm using Windows XP pro with an Athlon X2 3800+ with 2 EDS cards and one
>C16.
>
>The fix is a utility that you can launch before starting PARIS that assigns
>the PARIS software to one CPU. I selected CPU 1 for my tests. This leaves
>the other CPU free to run a MIDI sequencer, do Windows housekeeping, or
whatever.
>
>The cpu software is here:
>
> http://images.tomshardware.com/2004/05/28/getting_more_bang_ out_of_your_dual_processing_buck/taskassign.zip
>
>If anyone has trouble downloading it, I could post it.
>
>There's a tab called "application profiles" where you can browse for software
>to assign a cpu affinity for it. As long as the program is running before
>PARIS starts, everything seems to work fine.
>
>Let me know if any of this is unclear.
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Rod,
>>
>>I'll post some instructions on my website later today.
>>
>>I think what is happening is that the PCI bus is tying up the 1 cpu and
>samples
>>are overflowing a buffer and not making it to disk. With a second CPU.
>it
>>may be enough to keep things moving smoothly. We'll just have to try
it.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yeah, I'll take you up on that. So you think by turning hyperthreading
>on,
>>>and usuing your dual core fix, which will fix the hyperthreading issue,
>>it
>>>will fix the problem?
>>>Just to give you a little more info. I just tried a bounce to disk of
a
>>mix
>>>that only contained 1 track of UAD plugs..Uad Fairchild and Cambridge.
>I
>>>still got clicks and pops (about 6 total). when I get rid of all the UAD
>>>plugs there are no clicks or pops.
>>>I have 3 UAD cards.
>>>I'd be willing to give it a try. Thanks
>>>Rod
>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Rod,
>>>>
>>>>I'm pretty sure this happens because there aren't enough CPU resources.
>>>
>>>>If you have hyperthreading turned off, I've been using a dual core fix
>>for
>>>>a couple of months now with no issues. We could try turning hyperthreading
>>>>on and using the fix to see if that solves the crackle.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck!
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Well...I had to go out of town for a couple days and since I've got
back
>>>>I've
>>>>>been trouoble shooting the problem I posted about last week.
>>>>>I've definatly got it narrowed down to the UAD plugs. Now I think it
>may
>>>>>be a bad UAD card. Not sure yet, still more tests to do tommorrow. It's
>>>>either
>>>>>a software rev. mismatch with Paris, or a card. I ghosted my system
back
>>>>>to the 4.6 UAD version and I still get clicks and pops. I think I have
>>>a
>>>>>4.5 version ghosted. going to try that tommorrow. If it still has the
>>pops,
>>>>>I'll start pulling cards. Got 3 of em.
>>>>>When I get rid of the UAD plugs the pops go away.
>>>>>No, I'm not driving the plugs too hard. :-)
>>>>>No overs anywhere. I set up an incrediably safe mix for testing this.
>>>>>Rod
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Crackling on disk Bounce [message #91951 is a reply to message #91939] |
Thu, 25 October 2007 03:48 |
Mike Audet
Messages: 294
Registered: December 2008
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Hi Rod,
Hyperthreading is like a simulated dual core, so it should work the same,
except it won't be quite as efficient as a real dual core.
Hope it helps!
Mike
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Mike...just to make sure I'm understanding you....I have a single core motherboard
>cpu....are you saying this method will still work, or are you thinking I
>have a dual core cpu?
>Rod
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi Rod,
>>
>>Here's the text from a post I did a little while ago. It's not quite complete.
>> It turns out that you also need the intaffinity flag set for it to work.
>> I just had that set for other reasons already, so I didn't know it was
>part
>>of the fix.
>>
>>So, to add the intaffinity switch, open c:\boot.ini and add "/INTAFFINITY"
>>so that the line reads something like:
>>
>>[Operating Systems]
>>multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional
>>- int affinity" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn /INTAFFINITY /usepmtimer
>>
>>I've attached my boot.ini for reference.
>>
>>The rest of my old post is as follows:
>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I'm not sure how many people this affects, but I recently picked up a C16
>>and was finally faced with the dual core/c16 issues first hand.
>>
>>I've only tested for about an hour, but PARIS has worked perfectly for
that
>>long without disabling the second CPU, and it froze up immediately without
>>the fix.
>>
>>I'm using Windows XP pro with an Athlon X2 3800+ with 2 EDS cards and
one
>>C16.
>>
>>The fix is a utility that you can launch before starting PARIS that assigns
>>the PARIS software to one CPU. I selected CPU 1 for my tests. This leaves
>>the other CPU free to run a MIDI sequencer, do Windows housekeeping, or
>whatever.
>>
>>The cpu software is here:
>>
>> http://images.tomshardware.com/2004/05/28/getting_more_bang_ out_of_your_dual_processing_buck/taskassign.zip
>>
>>If anyone has trouble downloading it, I could post it.
>>
>>There's a tab called "application profiles" where you can browse for software
>>to assign a cpu affinity for it. As long as the program is running before
>>PARIS starts, everything seems to work fine.
>>
>>Let me know if any of this is unclear.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Rod,
>>>
>>>I'll post some instructions on my website later today.
>>>
>>>I think what is happening is that the PCI bus is tying up the 1 cpu and
>>samples
>>>are overflowing a buffer and not making it to disk. With a second CPU.
>>it
>>>may be enough to keep things moving smoothly. We'll just have to try
>it.
>>>
>>>All the best,
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, I'll take you up on that. So you think by turning hyperthreading
>>on,
>>>>and usuing your dual core fix, which will fix the hyperthreading issue,
>>>it
>>>>will fix the problem?
>>>>Just to give you a little more info. I just tried a bounce to disk of
>a
>>>mix
>>>>that only contained 1 track of UAD plugs..Uad Fairchild and Cambridge.
>>I
>>>>still got clicks and pops (about 6 total). when I get rid of all the
UAD
>>>>plugs there are no clicks or pops.
>>>>I have 3 UAD cards.
>>>>I'd be willing to give it a try. Thanks
>>>>Rod
>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Rod,
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm pretty sure this happens because there aren't enough CPU resources.
>>>>
>>>>>If you have hyperthreading turned off, I've been using a dual core fix
>>>for
>>>>>a couple of months now with no issues. We could try turning hyperthreading
>>>>>on and using the fix to see if that solves the crackle.
>>>>>
>>>>>Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well...I had to go out of town for a couple days and since I've got
>back
>>>>>I've
>>>>>>been trouoble shooting the problem I posted about last week.
>>>>>>I've definatly got it narrowed down to the UAD plugs. Now I think it
>>may
>>>>>>be a bad UAD card. Not sure yet, still more tests to do tommorrow.
It's
>>>>>either
>>>>>>a software rev. mismatch with Paris, or a card. I ghosted my system
>back
>>>>>>to the 4.6 UAD version and I still get clicks and pops. I think I have
>>>>a
>>>>>>4.5 version ghosted. going to try that tommorrow. If it still has the
>>>pops,
>>>>>>I'll start pulling cards. Got 3 of em.
>>>>>>When I get rid of the UAD plugs the pops go away.
>>>>>>No, I'm not driving the plugs too hard. :-)
>>>>>>No overs anywhere. I set up an incrediably safe mix for testing this.
>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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