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Another interesting discovery....RE: the new Matrox G450 Win XP driver. [message #68738] Sun, 28 May 2006 16:44 Go to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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I have been using a Matrox P750 in my Cubase rig. I have not been really
happy with it. Sometimes the screen redraws have been very slow and overall
performance has sorta' sucked, even with all of the latest drivers and
Matrox bios. It just didn't seem to like Cubase SX/RME/UAD scenarios and I
was actually getting better performance out of my old G450.........but, I
need at least 3 x video displays or I will die. Anyway, I decided to bite
the bullet so I Ghosted my system image that included a working P750
configuration because it took me a whole day to get the damned thing
configured in the first place and I didn't want to lose all that
work............then I uninstalled the P750 drivers, the Powerdesk software,
then I also ran the downloadable Matrox utility that totally removes every
vestige of any Matrox code in the machine. Then I shut the machine down and
yanked the P750. I then installed the old G450 AGP, rebooted the machine,
then I installed the most recent Matrox G450 driver. It's a May 2006 version
for Win XP. After another reboot, the system was very stable feeling and
snappy and so I decided I needed to try a G450 PCI card too. Well, I had
another G450 PCI lying around here doing nothing but I cleaned out my office
last weekend and I had a whole bunch of old obsolete PCI cards, as couple of
dead CRT monitors and some other crap here and decided to consign it all to
the dumpster. I think I may have thrown the G450 PCI away when I dumped.
"BUMMER" says I..........$ooooooo , I decided to pull the old G450 PCI out
of my Paris rig and see how this would work in the Cubase rig. Well, it
works beautifully, and I mean *really better than it ever had in the past.
Now I'm gonna have to find myself another G450 PCI because if I don't have 4
x displays running on both Paris and Cubase simultaneously, I will die.

This is some good news. The previous solution that I had been sticking with
for the G450 was to use the generic G450 drivers in Win XP. They worked OK,
but not great and really maginal performance wise when using both a G450 AGP
and PCI card.

OK, that's all...............

;o)
Re: Another interesting discovery....RE: the new Matrox G450 Win XP driver. [message #68739 is a reply to message #68738] Sun, 28 May 2006 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Deej,
You REALLY do have a death wish, don't you.
It's time to stop tinkering and get on with life.
I've learnt the hard way, every time I start tinkering, (probably because I
have nothing else to do at the time, (that I want to do), I end up stuffing
the system and have to start again, this is on my home computer though, I
never touch the studio gear.
Keep up the good work though, your exploits certainly make good fun reading.
All the best,
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:447a36b0@linux...
>I have been using a Matrox P750 in my Cubase rig. I have not been really
> happy with it. Sometimes the screen redraws have been very slow and
> overall
> performance has sorta' sucked, even with all of the latest drivers and
> Matrox bios. It just didn't seem to like Cubase SX/RME/UAD scenarios and I
> was actually getting better performance out of my old G450.........but, I
> need at least 3 x video displays or I will die. Anyway, I decided to bite
> the bullet so I Ghosted my system image that included a working P750
> configuration because it took me a whole day to get the damned thing
> configured in the first place and I didn't want to lose all that
> work............then I uninstalled the P750 drivers, the Powerdesk
> software,
> then I also ran the downloadable Matrox utility that totally removes every
> vestige of any Matrox code in the machine. Then I shut the machine down
> and
> yanked the P750. I then installed the old G450 AGP, rebooted the machine,
> then I installed the most recent Matrox G450 driver. It's a May 2006
> version
> for Win XP. After another reboot, the system was very stable feeling and
> snappy and so I decided I needed to try a G450 PCI card too. Well, I had
> another G450 PCI lying around here doing nothing but I cleaned out my
> office
> last weekend and I had a whole bunch of old obsolete PCI cards, as couple
> of
> dead CRT monitors and some other crap here and decided to consign it all
> to
> the dumpster. I think I may have thrown the G450 PCI away when I dumped.
> "BUMMER" says I..........$ooooooo , I decided to pull the old G450 PCI out
> of my Paris rig and see how this would work in the Cubase rig. Well, it
> works beautifully, and I mean *really better than it ever had in the past.
> Now I'm gonna have to find myself another G450 PCI because if I don't have
> 4
> x displays running on both Paris and Cubase simultaneously, I will die.
>
> This is some good news. The previous solution that I had been sticking
> with
> for the G450 was to use the generic G450 drivers in Win XP. They worked
> OK,
> but not great and really maginal performance wise when using both a G450
> AGP
> and PCI card.
>
> OK, that's all...............
>
> ;o)
>
>
Re: Another interesting discovery....RE: the new Matrox G450 Win XP driver. [message #68740 is a reply to message #68739] Sun, 28 May 2006 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Keep up the good work though, your exploits certainly make good fun reading.

Like a Stephen King novel. LOL

:)
Re: Another interesting discovery....RE: the new Matrox G450 Win XP driver. [message #68741 is a reply to message #68740] Sun, 28 May 2006 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
Senior Member
You guys just don't understand.............uuuuhhhhh.....well, I can't get
away with that one can I? You do understand......damn!!!!

There has been a reason for all of this, believe me. I'm not *that* crazy
and it looks like by

1. removing that Behringer POS format converter from my system
2. removing that Matrox P-750 from my system
3. turning off some system services (a real minefield due to the Interlock
dongle for Cubase)
4. reconfiguring my VST-to-Paris aux digital matrix

I have finally achieved what I have been wanting to do and the system is
stable and functioning the way I envisioned. I still have a couple of
non-critical issues to resolve, but that will happen next week when I add my
4th EDS card, MEC, ADAT card and an A8iT and A8ot.

The digital inputs on two of my HDSP cards won't lock to incoming spdif and
tthat needs to be addressed at some point, but I'm asking these inputs to
recognize other devices when daisy chained through two digital patchbays.
It's really a non issue because I'm not using them right now
anyway........but I'll get around to it eventually.

I'm off to the hot springs now........time to
chill.......errr..........relax.

;o)







"Neil" <IUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:447a48f4$1@linux...
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >Keep up the good work though, your exploits certainly make good fun
reading.
>
> Like a Stephen King novel. LOL
>
> :)
Re: Another interesting discovery....RE: the new Matrox G450 Win XP driver. [message #68742 is a reply to message #68741] Mon, 29 May 2006 01:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
deej,

relax it's just transference that started in your early teens with the
line "if you don't have sex with me i'll just die"

On Sun, 28 May 2006 20:05:59 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>You guys just don't understand.............uuuuhhhhh.....well, I can't get
>away with that one can I? You do understand......damn!!!!
>
>There has been a reason for all of this, believe me. I'm not *that* crazy
>and it looks like by
>
>1. removing that Behringer POS format converter from my system
>2. removing that Matrox P-750 from my system
>3. turning off some system services (a real minefield due to the Interlock
>dongle for Cubase)
>4. reconfiguring my VST-to-Paris aux digital matrix
>
>I have finally achieved what I have been wanting to do and the system is
>stable and functioning the way I envisioned. I still have a couple of
>non-critical issues to resolve, but that will happen next week when I add my
>4th EDS card, MEC, ADAT card and an A8iT and A8ot.
>
>The digital inputs on two of my HDSP cards won't lock to incoming spdif and
>tthat needs to be addressed at some point, but I'm asking these inputs to
>recognize other devices when daisy chained through two digital patchbays.
>It's really a non issue because I'm not using them right now
>anyway........but I'll get around to it eventually.
>
>I'm off to the hot springs now........time to
>chill.......errr..........relax.
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Neil" <IUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:447a48f4$1@linux...
>>
>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> >Keep up the good work though, your exploits certainly make good fun
>reading.
>>
>> Like a Stephen King novel. LOL
>>
>> :)
>
Re: Another interesting discovery....RE: the new Matrox G450 Win XP driver. [message #68745 is a reply to message #68742] Mon, 29 May 2006 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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LOL!!!......well.......apparently the prudish Marvell Yukon LAN controller
was whispering to the IRQ's that it was sharing with two of my RME cards,
telling them to put the brakes on when my track counts got hot and heavy.
Disabling my LAN controller in the BIOS seems to have done the trick as far
as resolving any remaining moral issues with two of the three RMEs and now
they seem to be willing to *go all the way* any time I ask, without any
hesitation at all.

;o)


"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ncl72druvvnrh0lbnjm31795uhd7h9k2v@4ax.com...
> deej,
>
> relax it's just transference that started in your early teens with the
> line "if you don't have sex with me i'll just die"
>
> On Sun, 28 May 2006 20:05:59 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >You guys just don't understand.............uuuuhhhhh.....well, I can't
get
> >away with that one can I? You do understand......damn!!!!
> >
> >There has been a reason for all of this, believe me. I'm not *that* crazy
> >and it looks like by
> >
> >1. removing that Behringer POS format converter from my system
> >2. removing that Matrox P-750 from my system
> >3. turning off some system services (a real minefield due to the
Interlock
> >dongle for Cubase)
> >4. reconfiguring my VST-to-Paris aux digital matrix
> >
> >I have finally achieved what I have been wanting to do and the system is
> >stable and functioning the way I envisioned. I still have a couple of
> >non-critical issues to resolve, but that will happen next week when I add
my
> >4th EDS card, MEC, ADAT card and an A8iT and A8ot.
> >
> >The digital inputs on two of my HDSP cards won't lock to incoming spdif
and
> >tthat needs to be addressed at some point, but I'm asking these inputs to
> >recognize other devices when daisy chained through two digital patchbays.
> >It's really a non issue because I'm not using them right now
> >anyway........but I'll get around to it eventually.
> >
> >I'm off to the hot springs now........time to
> >chill.......errr..........relax.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Neil" <IUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:447a48f4$1@linux...
> >>
> >> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >> >Keep up the good work though, your exploits certainly make good fun
> >reading.
> >>
> >> Like a Stephen King novel. LOL
> >>
> >> :)
> >
>
Re: Another interesting discovery....RE: the new Matrox G450 Win XP driver. [message #68746 is a reply to message #68745] Mon, 29 May 2006 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:447ae9cf$1@linux...
> LOL!!!......well.......apparently the prudish Marvell Yukon LAN controller
> was whispering to the IRQ's that it was sharing with two of my RME cards,
> telling them to put the brakes on when my track counts got hot and heavy.
> Disabling my LAN controller in the BIOS seems to have done the trick as
> far
> as resolving any remaining moral issues with two of the three RMEs and now
> they seem to be willing to *go all the way* any time I ask, without any
> hesitation at all.
>
> ;o)


You lucky Dog

dcn




>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4ncl72druvvnrh0lbnjm31795uhd7h9k2v@4ax.com...
>> deej,
>>
>> relax it's just transference that started in your early teens with the
>> line "if you don't have sex with me i'll just die"
>>
>> On Sun, 28 May 2006 20:05:59 -0600, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>> >You guys just don't understand.............uuuuhhhhh.....well, I can't
> get
>> >away with that one can I? You do understand......damn!!!!
>> >
>> >There has been a reason for all of this, believe me. I'm not *that*
>> >crazy
>> >and it looks like by
>> >
>> >1. removing that Behringer POS format converter from my system
>> >2. removing that Matrox P-750 from my system
>> >3. turning off some system services (a real minefield due to the
> Interlock
>> >dongle for Cubase)
>> >4. reconfiguring my VST-to-Paris aux digital matrix
>> >
>> >I have finally achieved what I have been wanting to do and the system is
>> >stable and functioning the way I envisioned. I still have a couple of
>> >non-critical issues to resolve, but that will happen next week when I
>> >add
> my
>> >4th EDS card, MEC, ADAT card and an A8iT and A8ot.
>> >
>> >The digital inputs on two of my HDSP cards won't lock to incoming spdif
> and
>> >tthat needs to be addressed at some point, but I'm asking these inputs
>> >to
>> >recognize other devices when daisy chained through two digital
>> >patchbays.
>> >It's really a non issue because I'm not using them right now
>> >anyway........but I'll get around to it eventually.
>> >
>> >I'm off to the hot springs now........time to
>> >chill.......errr..........relax.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Neil" <IUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:447a48f4$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> >> >Keep up the good work though, your exploits certainly make good fun
>> >reading.
>> >>
>> >> Like a Stephen King novel. LOL
>> >>
>> >> :)
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Another interesting discovery....RE: the new Matrox G450 Win XP driver. [message #68747 is a reply to message #68745] Mon, 29 May 2006 10:23 Go to previous message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
it's like being 40 years younger...oh yeah...

On Mon, 29 May 2006 06:28:48 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>LOL!!!......well.......apparently the prudish Marvell Yukon LAN controller
>was whispering to the IRQ's that it was sharing with two of my RME cards,
>telling them to put the brakes on when my track counts got hot and heavy.
>Disabling my LAN controller in the BIOS seems to have done the trick as far
>as resolving any remaining moral issues with two of the three RMEs and now
>they seem to be willing to *go all the way* any time I ask, without any
>hesitation at all.
>
>;o)
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4ncl72druvvnrh0lbnjm31795uhd7h9k2v@4ax.com...
>> deej,
>>
>> relax it's just transference that started in your early teens with the
>> line "if you don't have sex with me i'll just die"
>>
>> On Sun, 28 May 2006 20:05:59 -0600, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>> >You guys just don't understand.............uuuuhhhhh.....well, I can't
>get
>> >away with that one can I? You do understand......damn!!!!
>> >
>> >There has been a reason for all of this, believe me. I'm not *that* crazy
>> >and it looks like by
>> >
>> >1. removing that Behringer POS format converter from my system
>> >2. removing that Matrox P-750 from my system
>> >3. turning off some system services (a real minefield due to the
>Interlock
>> >dongle for Cubase)
>> >4. reconfiguring my VST-to-Paris aux digital matrix
>> >
>> >I have finally achieved what I have been wanting to do and the system is
>> >stable and functioning the way I envisioned. I still have a couple of
>> >non-critical issues to resolve, but that will happen next week when I add
>my
>> >4th EDS card, MEC, ADAT card and an A8iT and A8ot.
>> >
>> >The digital inputs on two of my HDSP cards won't lock to incoming spdif
>and
>> >tthat needs to be addressed at some point, but I'm asking these inputs to
>> >recognize other devices when daisy chained through two digital patchbays.
>> >It's really a non issue because I'm not using them right now
>> >anyway........but I'll get around to it eventually.
>> >
>> >I'm off to the hot springs now........time to
>> >chill.......errr..........relax.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Neil" <IUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:447a48f4$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> >> >Keep up the good work though, your exploits certainly make good fun
>> >reading.
>> >>
>> >> Like a Stephen King novel. LOL
>> >>
>> >> :)
>> >
>>
>
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