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| EDS-1000 Cards [message #55613] |
Tue, 12 July 2005 23:47  |
Yasser
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to:hiddensounds@hotmail.com" target="_blank">hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Anybody got a recommendation of a first class beer I should buy a slab (case)
of to celebrate? :o)
I've recently been introduced to Fat Tire Ale, and it's pretty
good... somewhat reminiscent of Guinness stout in taste, but
not as heavy or dark. Give it a try if th
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| Re: EDS-1000 Cards [message #55615 is a reply to message #55613] |
Wed, 13 July 2005 03:04  |
rick
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paganda, the myth,
the way we rock ourselves to sleep at night. The truth is significantly different,
however, and is at the root of just about everything that has gone wrong
with this great democratic experiment.
We are not all created equal, in fact. This inequality is not based on
race, or sex, or religion, but upon the slow development of a body of laws
that have created and empowered a breed of super-citizens which rule over
every aspect of our lives, almost completely beyond the reach of justice.
These super-citizens exist today under the familiar name "corporation."
But wait, a corporation is basically a
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| Re: EDS-1000 Cards [message #55618 is a reply to message #55615] |
Wed, 13 July 2005 05:31 |
Kim
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he
fact that regular citizens' tax dollars are used by the government to purchase
goods and services from corporations involved in the production of weapons,
petroleum, timber and agricultural products. Corporate perks like jets, elaborate
headquarters, public relations firms, and executive retreats are all tax
write-offs; the regular citizen, by contrast, pays for their perks with after-tax
dollars. When a corporation screws up and destroys an ecosystem with a toxic
spill, corporate liability shields protect them from financial and legal
punishment, and the cost of the clean-up is borne by the tax dolla
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| Re: EDS-1000 Cards [message #55928 is a reply to message #55618] |
Sat, 16 July 2005 07:02 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
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them all, saying, Be fruitful and multiply and
>> Evolve Not.
>>15
>> And God looked upon the species he hath made, and saw that the earth
>> was exceedingly crowded, and he said unto them, Let each species
>> compete for what it needed; for Healthy Competition is My Law. And
>> the species competeth amongst themselves, the cattle and the
>> creeping things; and some madeth it and some didn't; and the dogs
>> ate the dinosaurs and God was pleased.
>>16
>> And God took the bones from the dinosaurs, and caused them to appear
>> mighty old; and cast he them about the land and the sea. And he took
>> every tiny creature that had not madeth it, and caused them to
>> become fossils; and cast he them about likewise.
>>17
>> And just to put matters beyond the valley of the shadow of a doubt
>> God created carbon dating. And this is the origin of species.
>>18
>> And in the Evening of the day which was Thursday, God saw that he
>> had put in another good day's work.
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| Re: EDS-1000 Cards [message #55929 is a reply to message #55928] |
Sat, 16 July 2005 07:51 |
rick
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>>19
>> And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness,
>> which is tall and well-formed and pale of hue: and let us also make
>> monkeys, which resembleth us not in any wise, but are short and
>> ill-formed and hairy. And God added, Let man have dominion over the
>> monkeys and the fowl of the air and every speices, endangered or
>> otherwise.
>>20
>> So God created Man in His own image; tall and well-formed and pale
>> of hue created He him, and nothing at all like the monkeys.
>>21
>> And God said, Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed, which
>> is upon the face of the earth. But ye shalt not smoketh it, lest it
>> giveth you ideas.
>>22
>> And to every beast of the earth and every fowl of the air I have
>> given also every green herb, and to them it shall be for meat. But
>> they shall be for you. And the Lord God your Host suggesteth that
>> the flesh of cattle goeth well with that of the fin and the claw;
>> thus shall Surf be wedded unto Turf.
>>23
>> And God saw everything he had made, and he saw that it was very
>> good; and God said, It just goes to show Me what the private sector
>> can accomplish. With a lot of fool regulations this could have taken
>> billions of years.
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>> A
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| Re: EDS-1000 Cards [message #55932 is a reply to message #55929] |
Sat, 16 July 2005 08:43 |
Deej [1]
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not, that thou mayest
>> sell, and with the seeds thereof expand thy operations.
>>6
>> But the fruit of the tree of the Knowledge of Sex, thou mayest no
>> eat; nor mayest thou invest therein, nor profit thereby nor expand
>> its operations; for that is a mighty waste of seed.
>>7
>> And the man was exceeding glad. But he asked the LORD God: Who then
>> shall labor in this Marketplace? For I am no management, being tall
>> and well-formed and pale of hue?
>>8
>> And the LORD God said unto himself, Verily, this kid hath the
>> potential which is Executive.
>>9
>> And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field
>> and every fowl of the air, and brought them unto Adam to labor for
>> him. And they labored for peanuts.
>>10
>> Then Adam was again exceeding glad. But he spake once more unto the
>> LORD God, saying, Lo, I am free to play in the Marketplace of the
>> LORD, and have cheap labor in plenty; but to whom shall I sell my
>> surplus fruit and realize a fortune thereby?
>>11
>> And the LORD God said unto himself, Verily, this is an Live One.
>>12
>> And he caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he took from him
>> one of his ribs, which was an spare rib.
>>13
>> And the spare rib which the LORD God had taken from the man, made he
>> woman. And he brought her unto the man, saying:
>>14
>> This is Woman and she shall purchase your fruit; and ye shall
>> realize a fortune thereby. For Man produceth and Woman consumeth,
>> wherefore she shall be called the consumer.
>>15
>> And they were both decently clad, the Man and the Woman, from the
>> neck even unto the ankles, so they were not ashamed.
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| Re: EDS-1000 Cards [message #55978 is a reply to message #55952] |
Sun, 17 July 2005 12:45 |
Tom Bruhl
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And we need more than 128 track why?
Tom
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:tu3jd1ls95dmhfd0pehe3gqdnlis9d87rh@4ax.com...
okay, so who's the gnomite????
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:43:32 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Don Morrell...........but he's in Anchorage.
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>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:6n7id1p2s434fdk7himmo3f9e76bcge300@4ax.com...
>> who has paris in alaska???
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>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:02:30 -0600, "Miguel Vigil" =
<nospam@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
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>> >I have it on unimpeachable authority that the eight card limit =
is a
>software
>> >switch.
>> >
>> >Ten cards have been successfully tested by a gnome.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >El Miguel
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>> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:42d50996$1@linux...
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>> >> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >i think 8 has been the most i've heard using an expansion =
chassis.
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>> >> I'm quite sure that Paris simply cannot run more than 8 cards.
>> >>
>> >> I beleive that you could, if you had appropriate hardware (ie.
>expansion
>> >> chassis's etc) run as many as you like, subject to bandwidth
>limitations,
>> >> but Paris was only built to run 8 cards, meaning 128 tracks.
>> >>
>> >> Find me the dude who can pick more than 128 instruments =
playing
>> >simultaneously
>> >> and I'll buy you a beer. ;o)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Kim.
>> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd be more interested in the =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And we need more than 128 track =
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so who's the gnomite????<BR><BR>On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:43:32 -0600,=20
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>Regards,<BR>>> ><BR>>> >El Miguel<BR>>>=20
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| Re: EDS-1000 Cards [message #55979 is a reply to message #55978] |
Sun, 17 July 2005 14:03 |
Aaron Allen
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sure that Paris simply cannot run more than 8 cards.<BR>>>=20
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>> Find me the dude who can pick more than 128 instruments=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C58AE9.24CFAC10--Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>Actually, we're really talking about multiple personality disorder,
>commonly confused with schizophrenia
>(http://www.mentalhealth.com/book/p40-sc01.html#Head_5). But that dulls
>the joke.
Yeah, and we wouldn't want to do that would we?
And thanks SO much for the lessons on getting along, coach!
heh
DCYes, this weekend I finally made it down to the store. After losing a day
to a hangover on Saturday, on Saunday I made the concerted effort to make
it down to the store. I still have a hdd upgrade planned, but stage 1 of
the upgrade was the Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939 MB, an Athlon 64 3000+ and a
gig of ram.
Of course, in my haste to get running I had no interest in reinstalling Windows,
but quickly found that Windows XP isn't all that forgiving if you suddenly
replace a whole bucketload of it's hardware. Suffice to say a quick "repair"
of XP brought the system back up, and it's all good.
Mind you I haven't actually run Paris on the thing yet. I'll get to that
tonight. Point is though that the EDS cards fitted in just fine. From what
I can tell I could actually put a full 5 EDS cards in this thing if I wanted.
The BIOS is really nice with IRQs, and allows you to assign each PCI slot
to whatever IRQ you want, and tells you what you'll be sharing with on each
setting. PCI 1 & 5 share IRQs qith each other, but no other slots share far
as I know, so it should be possible to simply put every EDS card on a single
IRQ which isn't shared with anything else.
The only complaint I have about this board is that it doesn't seem to have
an SPDIF In provided. Even though it is supposed to be on the board, the
supplied connector which connects to the mobo header only has outputs. The
good news is though that it has both coaxial and optical outputs. The only
other complaint is that, as I imagine is often the case, the board has too
much I/O for them to fit it all on the mobo, so there are of course two of
those metal strips that lose you a PCI slot, and these allow you access to
the "rest" of your audio plugs (including SPDIF) and in the other case the
Firewire and some bonus USB2 connectors. At this stage I've only got 2 EDS
cards anyhow so this isn't a problem, but if I wanted to use 5 PCI slots,
SPDIF and Firewire all at once I'd have to find a workaround. This isn't
an issue for me though.
I bought a cheapy "winfast" Geforce 5200FX graphics card also for good measure.
This thing was nice and cheap, and I figure being a Geforce card it should
play nice with the NForce mobo chipset.
Tonight I'll get my other boot working, and see if we can't get Paris to
run.
I'm looking forward to getting my planned 2 x 250Gig Sata drives for the
thing. That should speed it up a whole chunk more I expect. Currently the
OS on this new box is living on an old 27 Gig 5200RPM Maxtor drive I bought
"Back in the day" while I was over in the U.S. in 98 or whenever it was.
I imagine it's a little slower than current technology. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.My Cubase DAW is running at 333MHz (2 x gigs of PC 2700 DDR) using an AMD XP
3000 CPU. It is plugging along at between 60-75% CPU usage when playing back
48 tracks of audio with little else going on other than plugins from my 3 x
UAD-1 cards. I'm not fmiliar enough with SX to knowif this is about normal
or not and I'm sure I could optomize the system a little more by turning off
the LAN in the bios when I'm mixing since one of my RME's is sharing an IRQ
with it, but anyway, the system seems very stable and definitely usable as a
mixdown platform. I would however, like to squeeze a little more CPU
headroom out of it and I'm wondering if anyone here has ever substituted an
XP 3200 CPU for an XP 3000 and noticed that the gain in cycles was
substantial enough to justify the expenditure (as subjective as that is).
Anyway, it's a longshot, but I thought I'd ask.
Thanks,
DeejThat sounds like a very friendly mobo. what bios tdoes it use?
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42daeb4a$1@linux...
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>
> Yes, this weekend I finally made it down to the store. After losing a day
> to a hangover on Saturday, on Saunday I made the concerted effort to make
> it down to the store. I still have a hdd upgrade planned, but stage 1 of
> the upgrade was the Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939 MB, an Athlon 64 3000+ and a
> gig of ram.
>
> Of course, in my haste to get running I had no interest in reinstalling
Windows,
> but quickly found that Windows XP isn't all that forgiving if you suddenly
> replace a whole bucketload of it's hardware. Suffice to say a quick
"repair"
> of XP brought the system back up, and it's all good.
>
> Mind you I haven't actually run Paris on the thing yet. I'll get to that
> tonight. Point is though that the EDS cards fitted in just fine. From what
> I can tell I could actually put a full 5 EDS cards in this thing if I
wanted.
> The BIOS is really nice with IRQs, and allows you to assign each PCI slot
> to whatever IRQ you want, and tells you what you'll be sharing with on
each
> setting. PCI 1 & 5 share IRQs qith each other, but no other slots share
far
> as I know, so it should be possible to simply put every EDS card on a
single
> IRQ which isn't shared with anything else.
>
> The only complaint I have about this board is that it doesn't seem to have
> an SPDIF In provided. Even though it is supposed to be on the board, the
> supplied connector which connects to the mobo header only has outputs. The
> good news is though that it has both coaxial and optical outputs. The only
> other complaint is that, as I imagine is often the case, the board has too
> much I/O for them to fit it all on the mobo, so there are of course two of
> those metal strips that lose you a PCI slot, and these allow you access to
> the "rest" of your audio plugs (including SPDIF) and in the other case the
> Firewire and some bonus USB2 connectors. At this stage I've only got 2 EDS
> cards anyhow so this isn't a problem, but if I wanted to use 5 PCI slots,
> SPDIF and Firewire all at once I'd have to find a workaround. This isn't
> an issue for me though.
>
> I bought a cheapy "winfast" Geforce 5200FX graphics card also for good
measure.
> This thing was nice and cheap, and I figure being a Geforce card it should
> play nice with the NForce mobo chipset.
>
> Tonight I'll get my other boot working, and see if we can't get Paris to
> run.
>
> I'm looking forward to getting my planned 2 x 250Gig Sata drives for the
> thing. That should speed it up a whole chunk more I expect. Currently the
> OS on this new box is living on an old 27 Gig 5200RPM Maxtor drive I
bought
> "Back in the day" while I was over in the U.S. in 98 or whenever it was.
> I imagine it's a little slower than current technology. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim."Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42daeb4a$1@linux...
> Of course, in my haste to get running I had no interest in reinstalling
> Windows,
> but quickly found that Windows XP isn't all that forgiving if you suddenly
> replace a whole bucketload of it's hardware. Suffice to say a quick
> "repair"
> of XP brought the system back up, and it's all good.
lameHere is a perfect example of what's wrong with the Rhetorical Right.
The author of this either insane or, more probably, vastly ignorant, and
unaware of it.. The worst part of all this is that this type of nonsense
is passing for informed opinion in the circles of those too lazy to do
their own homework. And to the detriment of the future of our world
these illinformed, intellectual sloths slurp this stuff up like a dog
sloshing up a bowl of beer..
Hanson, like so many rightwingers I've met, is off-the-scope crazy. The
right, it seems, is populated be people who cannot see the biggest of
pictures, preffering to only see what agrees with their own bizarre, USA
#1, world view. Take a look at what he says below and see the problems
with it.
DC wrote:
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>July 15, 2005, 8:04 a.m.
>Our Wars Over the War
>“The fault is not in our stars.”
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>Victor Davis Hanson
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>Ever since September 11, there has been an alternative narrative
>about this war embraced by the Left. In this mythology, the attack
>on September 11 had in some vague way something to do with
>American culpability.
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>
Well, first of all, many have been pointing out that the US should not
have been invading Iraq, Afghanistan and many other nations since
Vietman, but more germain to the point, they've been pointing out the
culpability of the US since both the Afghani war in the '80's and the
Iraqi war since '89. This is not the new phenomenon that the right would
have us believe.
>Either we were unfairly tilting toward Israel, or had been unkind
>to Muslims.
>
It's true tha
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| Re: EDS-1000 Cards [message #56011 is a reply to message #55952] |
Mon, 18 July 2005 06:35 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
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Bob and Doug
> McKenzie, curling, and well.....oh, I just bought some rock wool from
> you guys! Great work, eh? ;-)
work? it's summer fer chipes sake how come y'aren't on unemployment
drinkin' some brewskis?
>
> Hey, if you can dish it out, be prepared to take it.
I do a stand up routine and my favourite part is hecklers - taking it
back is the spice of the fray.
>
> Cheers and all that "tad too sensitive" stuff.
> dt
it's 40 above and I don't give a fuck, got air-con in my truck and I'm
of the the beer store.....
jef
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> On 7/17/05 6:27 PM, in article 42daf6fd@linux, "Jef Knight" <"Jef
> Knight"> wrote:
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> The most interesting thing about USians is that, unlike Canadian,
> they are generally, uh, a tad too sensitive.
> Hey, no offence! Really! Just seem pretty prevelant.
>
> Cheers
>
> jef
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> DC wrote:
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> Actually, I think you are way off base here, but I also think
> it is
> silly to rate topic-quality, so I do not really care to engage
> this
> issue. I will say this; I have seen much worse, both here and
> on other forums, and until someone started calling people idiots
> and nazis, it was doing pretty well, even if you did not get the
> results you preferred.
>
> DC
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> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> <mailto:Meta@Dimensional.com>
> wrote:
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> Unfortunately name calling was there pretty much from the
> start, and,
> with unintended irony, a bit of projection. Some of it has
> been
> entertaining yet at times appalling, like getting sucked
> into a cheesy
> reality TV show, pandering talk radio or overblown pro
> wrestling. If
> this keeps up Kim's little corner of the web will start
> getting traffic
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> We've heard several points of view but nothing like the
> whole picture. A
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Mon, 18 July 2005 11:39 |
Rich[3]
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