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| Cubase MIDI Weirdness? [message #91122] |
Sun, 07 October 2007 22:02  |
Neil
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Dedric, or any other Cubase MIDI geeks out there, I need some
help with this.
OK so for the first time I decided to try a project using
nothing but VSTi's, so I loaded up DHF2, set up a GM Drum map,
and started programming a few measures. Fine.
Next I loaded in a softsynth & started programming a few bars
there, but I couldn't get it to sync with the drums. I had
latency set at .7 Msec, so that shouldn't have been the
problem, but even when I manually moved/quantized stuff it
still was off a bit. SO, I turned off the drum mapping on the
DHF channel & lo & behold the quantization on the drum mapped
editor vs the non-drum-mapped editor was off! Next, even when I
manually edited the (now) non-drum-mapped drum rack to the
right quatization points, it wasn't syncing right - IOW the
beat was off a bit here & there.
I had the tempo track activated & everything, so I dunno what
could be the problem. Normally I program everything on my
Fantom & import the MIDI files into SX in SMF-1 format &
everything syncs up perfectly... any ideas WTF might be going
on or if I'm doing anything wrong????
Neil
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| Re: Cubase MIDI Weirdness? [message #91126 is a reply to message #91122] |
Sun, 07 October 2007 23:11  |
Dedric Terry
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Neil,
About the only thing I can think of is you may have emulated midi ports
active instead of the direct midi ports. Check under devices/midi and see
what in/out ports are active - you shouldn't have "Emulated..." ports in
use.
In early versions of SX, you had to move an ignoreportfilter file into the
main Cubase directory to shut off emulated ports, but it was setup that way
automatically in later versions.
What midi interface are you using?
Dedric
On 10/7/07 11:02 PM, in article 4709b9cd$1@linux, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com>
wrote:
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> Dedric, or any other Cubase MIDI geeks out there, I need some
> help with this.
>
> OK so for the first time I decided to try a project using
> nothing but VSTi's, so I loaded up DHF2, set up a GM Drum map,
> and started programming a few measures. Fine.
>
> Next I loaded in a softsynth & started programming a few bars
> there, but I couldn't get it to sync with the drums. I had
> latency set at .7 Msec, so that shouldn't have been the
> problem, but even when I manually moved/quantized stuff it
> still was off a bit. SO, I turned off the drum mapping on the
> DHF channel & lo & behold the quantization on the drum mapped
> editor vs the non-drum-mapped editor was off! Next, even when I
> manually edited the (now) non-drum-mapped drum rack to the
> right quatization points, it wasn't syncing right - IOW the
> beat was off a bit here & there.
>
> I had the tempo track activated & everything, so I dunno what
> could be the problem. Normally I program everything on my
> Fantom & import the MIDI files into SX in SMF-1 format &
> everything syncs up perfectly... any ideas WTF might be going
> on or if I'm doing anything wrong????
>
> Neil
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| Re: Cubase MIDI Weirdness? [message #91132 is a reply to message #91122] |
Mon, 08 October 2007 05:28 |
Bill L
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Just a guess: Make sure,in the device setup, you have "Use system
timestamp" clicked. That can really screw with midi timing.
Neil wrote:
> Dedric, or any other Cubase MIDI geeks out there, I need some
> help with this.
>
> OK so for the first time I decided to try a project using
> nothing but VSTi's, so I loaded up DHF2, set up a GM Drum map,
> and started programming a few measures. Fine.
>
> Next I loaded in a softsynth & started programming a few bars
> there, but I couldn't get it to sync with the drums. I had
> latency set at .7 Msec, so that shouldn't have been the
> problem, but even when I manually moved/quantized stuff it
> still was off a bit. SO, I turned off the drum mapping on the
> DHF channel & lo & behold the quantization on the drum mapped
> editor vs the non-drum-mapped editor was off! Next, even when I
> manually edited the (now) non-drum-mapped drum rack to the
> right quatization points, it wasn't syncing right - IOW the
> beat was off a bit here & there.
>
> I had the tempo track activated & everything, so I dunno what
> could be the problem. Normally I program everything on my
> Fantom & import the MIDI files into SX in SMF-1 format &
> everything syncs up perfectly... any ideas WTF might be going
> on or if I'm doing anything wrong????
>
> Neil
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| Re: Cubase MIDI Weirdness? [message #91135 is a reply to message #91126] |
Mon, 08 October 2007 07:36 |
Nei
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Nope, no emulated ports - I'm using the ones on my main
Multiface, and that's what I've always had SX defaulted to; and
those are still showing up as the ones being used, and are
working as far as i/o MIDI goes.
Neil
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Neil,
>
>About the only thing I can think of is you may have emulated midi ports
>active instead of the direct midi ports. Check under devices/midi and see
>what in/out ports are active - you shouldn't have "Emulated..." ports in
>use.
>
>In early versions of SX, you had to move an ignoreportfilter file into the
>main Cubase directory to shut off emulated ports, but it was setup that
way
>automatically in later versions.
>
>What midi interface are you using?
>
>Dedric
>
>On 10/7/07 11:02 PM, in article 4709b9cd$1@linux, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> Dedric, or any other Cubase MIDI geeks out there, I need some
>> help with this.
>>
>> OK so for the first time I decided to try a project using
>> nothing but VSTi's, so I loaded up DHF2, set up a GM Drum map,
>> and started programming a few measures. Fine.
>>
>> Next I loaded in a softsynth & started programming a few bars
>> there, but I couldn't get it to sync with the drums. I had
>> latency set at .7 Msec, so that shouldn't have been the
>> problem, but even when I manually moved/quantized stuff it
>> still was off a bit. SO, I turned off the drum mapping on the
>> DHF channel & lo & behold the quantization on the drum mapped
>> editor vs the non-drum-mapped editor was off! Next, even when I
>> manually edited the (now) non-drum-mapped drum rack to the
>> right quatization points, it wasn't syncing right - IOW the
>> beat was off a bit here & there.
>>
>> I had the tempo track activated & everything, so I dunno what
>> could be the problem. Normally I program everything on my
>> Fantom & import the MIDI files into SX in SMF-1 format &
>> everything syncs up perfectly... any ideas WTF might be going
>> on or if I'm doing anything wrong????
>>
>> Neil
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| Re: Cubase MIDI Weirdness? [message #91136 is a reply to message #91132] |
Mon, 08 October 2007 07:37 |
Neil
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I'll check that out, Bill - not sure I've ever noticed that
setting. Is that in the MIDI section of the Device Setup menu?
Neil
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Just a guess: Make sure,in the device setup, you have "Use system
>timestamp" clicked. That can really screw with midi timing.
>
>Neil wrote:
>> Dedric, or any other Cubase MIDI geeks out there, I need some
>> help with this.
>>
>> OK so for the first time I decided to try a project using
>> nothing but VSTi's, so I loaded up DHF2, set up a GM Drum map,
>> and started programming a few measures. Fine.
>>
>> Next I loaded in a softsynth & started programming a few bars
>> there, but I couldn't get it to sync with the drums. I had
>> latency set at .7 Msec, so that shouldn't have been the
>> problem, but even when I manually moved/quantized stuff it
>> still was off a bit. SO, I turned off the drum mapping on the
>> DHF channel & lo & behold the quantization on the drum mapped
>> editor vs the non-drum-mapped editor was off! Next, even when I
>> manually edited the (now) non-drum-mapped drum rack to the
>> right quatization points, it wasn't syncing right - IOW the
>> beat was off a bit here & there.
>>
>> I had the tempo track activated & everything, so I dunno what
>> could be the problem. Normally I program everything on my
>> Fantom & import the MIDI files into SX in SMF-1 format &
>> everything syncs up perfectly... any ideas WTF might be going
>> on or if I'm doing anything wrong????
>>
>> Neil
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| Re: Cubase MIDI Weirdness? [message #91150 is a reply to message #91136] |
Mon, 08 October 2007 13:17 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
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Yepperdoodle
Neil wrote:
> I'll check that out, Bill - not sure I've ever noticed that
> setting. Is that in the MIDI section of the Device Setup menu?
>
> Neil
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> Just a guess: Make sure,in the device setup, you have "Use system
>> timestamp" clicked. That can really screw with midi timing.
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> Dedric, or any other Cubase MIDI geeks out there, I need some
>>> help with this.
>>>
>>> OK so for the first time I decided to try a project using
>>> nothing but VSTi's, so I loaded up DHF2, set up a GM Drum map,
>>> and started programming a few measures. Fine.
>>>
>>> Next I loaded in a softsynth & started programming a few bars
>>> there, but I couldn't get it to sync with the drums. I had
>>> latency set at .7 Msec, so that shouldn't have been the
>>> problem, but even when I manually moved/quantized stuff it
>>> still was off a bit. SO, I turned off the drum mapping on the
>>> DHF channel & lo & behold the quantization on the drum mapped
>>> editor vs the non-drum-mapped editor was off! Next, even when I
>>> manually edited the (now) non-drum-mapped drum rack to the
>>> right quatization points, it wasn't syncing right - IOW the
>>> beat was off a bit here & there.
>>>
>>> I had the tempo track activated & everything, so I dunno what
>>> could be the problem. Normally I program everything on my
>>> Fantom & import the MIDI files into SX in SMF-1 format &
>>> everything syncs up perfectly... any ideas WTF might be going
>>> on or if I'm doing anything wrong????
>>>
>>> Neil
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