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| Re: Some thoughts about Drumagog BFD [message #88095 is a reply to message #88094] |
Sat, 14 July 2007 19:14   |
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Hey Dj,
I have a dedicated Firewire drive (80 gigs) of Drum -wav/giga samples just
for Drumagog..
I would have to say that suscess using this plug really depends on the Arsenal
of samples at your disposal..
Although I have BFD(DELUXE), I really don't like their samples. Yes, I prefer
my drums samples to already be "Procesed"!! :).. IE..Sound great out the
box...BFD approach is to let you process those raw drum samples like you
would a "real" kit..
Problem is: If you don't know how to achieve great drum sounds witha live
kit, then using BFD will render no help at all...That Means: If you call
up a BFD sample via Drummagog, ...you then have proceed to treat the sad
drum track like you would a live "Miked" drum... Yikes!!.
That's why I go with the great sounding "Already Primo" Drum samples.. Hey,
I'm a Producer/Composer/Engineer...I need quick , but, great results...fast,
when I call up Drumagog.. Not tweaking to get those RAW BFD drums right..
Hey, on another note: Native Instruments Battery 3 is a BEAST!! And the Library
that comes with it, is First class.. In-which you can use these great samples
with Drumagog..
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>.........................to be used lightly......very lightly.............
>too much (kick in my case) and your kit sounds artificial and disjointed,
>even with lots of tweaking. It's a nice tool to have in the arsenal,
>blending in another phat kick sound (and perhaps dropping the tuning) is
>interesting and *can* help in some cases, especially in case you are trying
>to deal with total suckage that absolutely can't be cured any other way,
but
>micing the kit right the first time is definitely the way to do. I'm not
as
>experienced with mixing drums as some folks here but it is lots of fun
>learning it and I'm really discovering more and more about what an integral
>"instrument" a drum kit is.
>
>
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| Re: Some thoughts about Drumagog BFD [message #88096 is a reply to message #88095] |
Sat, 14 July 2007 19:15 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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Heheh!! I sure agree with you LaMont. It's sorta' ridiculous in my
particular situation. I am trying to reinvent the wheel here. The kit I'm
mixing sounds really good "as is" (it's a Grand Masters that was mic'ed by
Ed Stasium for the session played by Steve Dejka, who is an absolutely
killer drummer). Trying to improve it with BFD is just basically
dumb........but that's how I learn stuff, if you haven't noticed.
;o)
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:46998301$1@linux...
>
> Hey Dj,
> I have a dedicated Firewire drive (80 gigs) of Drum -wav/giga samples just
> for Drumagog..
>
> I would have to say that suscess using this plug really depends on the
> Arsenal
> of samples at your disposal..
>
> Although I have BFD(DELUXE), I really don't like their samples. Yes, I
> prefer
> my drums samples to already be "Procesed"!! :).. IE..Sound great out the
> box...BFD approach is to let you process those raw drum samples like you
> would a "real" kit..
>
> Problem is: If you don't know how to achieve great drum sounds witha live
> kit, then using BFD will render no help at all...That Means: If you call
> up a BFD sample via Drummagog, ...you then have proceed to treat the sad
> drum track like you would a live "Miked" drum... Yikes!!.
>
> That's why I go with the great sounding "Already Primo" Drum samples..
> Hey,
> I'm a Producer/Composer/Engineer...I need quick , but, great
> results...fast,
> when I call up Drumagog.. Not tweaking to get those RAW BFD drums right..
>
> Hey, on another note: Native Instruments Battery 3 is a BEAST!! And the
> Library
> that comes with it, is First class.. In-which you can use these great
> samples
> with Drumagog..
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>.........................to be used lightly......very lightly.............
>
>>too much (kick in my case) and your kit sounds artificial and disjointed,
>
>>even with lots of tweaking. It's a nice tool to have in the arsenal,
>>blending in another phat kick sound (and perhaps dropping the tuning) is
>
>>interesting and *can* help in some cases, especially in case you are
>>trying
>
>>to deal with total suckage that absolutely can't be cured any other way,
> but
>>micing the kit right the first time is definitely the way to do. I'm not
> as
>>experienced with mixing drums as some folks here but it is lots of fun
>>learning it and I'm really discovering more and more about what an
>>integral
>
>>"instrument" a drum kit is.
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Some thoughts about Drumagog BFD [message #88097 is a reply to message #88096] |
Sat, 14 July 2007 20:10 |
LaMon
Messages: 18
Registered: June 2007
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Junior Member |
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Lol!! ...Email or call me and I can get a disk of some of my Drum samples..
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Heheh!! I sure agree with you LaMont. It's sorta' ridiculous in my
>particular situation. I am trying to reinvent the wheel here. The kit I'm
>mixing sounds really good "as is" (it's a Grand Masters that was mic'ed
by
>Ed Stasium for the session played by Steve Dejka, who is an absolutely
>killer drummer). Trying to improve it with BFD is just basically
>dumb........but that's how I learn stuff, if you haven't noticed.
>
>;o)
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:46998301$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Dj,
>> I have a dedicated Firewire drive (80 gigs) of Drum -wav/giga samples
just
>> for Drumagog..
>>
>> I would have to say that suscess using this plug really depends on the
>> Arsenal
>> of samples at your disposal..
>>
>> Although I have BFD(DELUXE), I really don't like their samples. Yes, I
>> prefer
>> my drums samples to already be "Procesed"!! :).. IE..Sound great out the
>> box...BFD approach is to let you process those raw drum samples like you
>> would a "real" kit..
>>
>> Problem is: If you don't know how to achieve great drum sounds witha live
>> kit, then using BFD will render no help at all...That Means: If you call
>> up a BFD sample via Drummagog, ...you then have proceed to treat the sad
>> drum track like you would a live "Miked" drum... Yikes!!.
>>
>> That's why I go with the great sounding "Already Primo" Drum samples..
>> Hey,
>> I'm a Producer/Composer/Engineer...I need quick , but, great
>> results...fast,
>> when I call up Drumagog.. Not tweaking to get those RAW BFD drums right..
>>
>> Hey, on another note: Native Instruments Battery 3 is a BEAST!! And the
>> Library
>> that comes with it, is First class.. In-which you can use these great
>> samples
>> with Drumagog..
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>.........................to be used lightly......very lightly.............
>>
>>>too much (kick in my case) and your kit sounds artificial and disjointed,
>>
>>>even with lots of tweaking. It's a nice tool to have in the arsenal,
>>>blending in another phat kick sound (and perhaps dropping the tuning)
is
>>
>>>interesting and *can* help in some cases, especially in case you are
>>>trying
>>
>>>to deal with total suckage that absolutely can't be cured any other way,
>> but
>>>micing the kit right the first time is definitely the way to do. I'm not
>> as
>>>experienced with mixing drums as some folks here but it is lots of fun
>>>learning it and I'm really discovering more and more about what an
>>>integral
>>
>>>"instrument" a drum kit is.
>>>
>>>
>>
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