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Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78079] Tue, 09 January 2007 12:08 Go to next message
Dimitrios musurgioote is currently offline  Dimitrios musurgioote
Messages: 2
Registered: January 2007
Junior Member
I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums and
making a great drum production is at least also the following:
I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and put
their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
recorded drums.
No preamp needed !!!
Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty plugin.
Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound and
not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
By the way their snare is fabulous.
These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming with
volume variations.
The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very low
hits to very loud.
Vwery very convincing...
So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog on
every one with appropriatte samples.
Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good reverb
for creating that.
You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
I am sure it will work just fine.
The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
Perfect world we live in right?
ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not contain
that hihat again in it...
Regards,
Dimitrios
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78081 is a reply to message #78079] Tue, 09 January 2007 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brandon[2] is currently offline  brandon[2]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 380
Registered: June 2006
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link please..



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Thanks,

Brandon



<Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>
> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums and
> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and put
> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
> recorded drums.
> No preamp needed !!!
> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
plugin.
> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound and
> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
> By the way their snare is fabulous.
> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming with
> volume variations.
> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very low
> hits to very loud.
> Vwery very convincing...
> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog on
> every one with appropriatte samples.
> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
reverb
> for creating that.
> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
> I am sure it will work just fine.
> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
> Perfect world we live in right?
> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
contain
> that hihat again in it...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78083 is a reply to message #78081] Tue, 09 January 2007 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>link please..
>
>
>
>--
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon
>
>
>
><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>
>> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
and
>> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
put
>> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
>> recorded drums.
>> No preamp needed !!!
>> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
>> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
>plugin.
>> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
and
>> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
with
>> volume variations.
>> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
low
>> hits to very loud.
>> Vwery very convincing...
>> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
on
>> every one with appropriatte samples.
>> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
>reverb
>> for creating that.
>> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>> I am sure it will work just fine.
>> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>> Perfect world we live in right?
>> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>contain
>> that hihat again in it...
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78084 is a reply to message #78083] Tue, 09 January 2007 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brandon[2] is currently offline  brandon[2]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 380
Registered: June 2006
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Thanks, but I cant read that. ;-(
Do they ship to USA?

I dont see any on Ebay USA.

--
Thanks,

Brandon



"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3f14c$1@linux...
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
> >link please..
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Brandon
> >
> >
> >
> ><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
> >>
> >> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
> and
> >> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
> >> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
> >> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
> put
> >> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with
normal
> >> recorded drums.
> >> No preamp needed !!!
> >> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded
sound
> >> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
> >plugin.
> >> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
> and
> >> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
> >> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
> >> By the way their snare is fabulous.
> >> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
> with
> >> volume variations.
> >> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
> low
> >> hits to very loud.
> >> Vwery very convincing...
> >> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
> on
> >> every one with appropriatte samples.
> >> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
> >reverb
> >> for creating that.
> >> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
> >> I am sure it will work just fine.
> >> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
> >> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
> >> Perfect world we live in right?
> >> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
> >contain
> >> that hihat again in it...
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >
> >
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78086 is a reply to message #78084] Tue, 09 January 2007 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
Senior Member
Dear Brandon,
The one with 20 triggers has also details in English if you scroll and he
shipps worldwide...
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>Thanks, but I cant read that. ;-(
>Do they ship to USA?
>
>I dont see any on Ebay USA.
>
>--
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon
>
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3f14c$1@linux...
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>> >link please..
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Brandon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
>> and
>> >> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>> >> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>> >> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
>> put
>> >> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with
>normal
>> >> recorded drums.
>> >> No preamp needed !!!
>> >> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded
>sound
>> >> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
>> >plugin.
>> >> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
>> and
>> >> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>> >> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>> >> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>> >> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
>> with
>> >> volume variations.
>> >> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
>> low
>> >> hits to very loud.
>> >> Vwery very convincing...
>> >> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
>> on
>> >> every one with appropriatte samples.
>> >> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
>> >reverb
>> >> for creating that.
>> >> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>> >> I am sure it will work just fine.
>> >> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>> >> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>> >> Perfect world we live in right?
>> >> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>> >contain
>> >> that hihat again in it...
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dimitrios
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78087 is a reply to message #78079] Tue, 09 January 2007 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brandon[2] is currently offline  brandon[2]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 380
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
Is 14,90 EURO = 1,936.46 USD
OR 19.3618 USD


--
Thanks,

Brandon





<Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>
> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums and
> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and put
> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
> recorded drums.
> No preamp needed !!!
> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
plugin.
> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound and
> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
> By the way their snare is fabulous.
> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming with
> volume variations.
> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very low
> hits to very loud.
> Vwery very convincing...
> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog on
> every one with appropriatte samples.
> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
reverb
> for creating that.
> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
> I am sure it will work just fine.
> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
> Perfect world we live in right?
> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
contain
> that hihat again in it...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78089 is a reply to message #78084] Tue, 09 January 2007 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
Brandon,

I would think any piezo drum triggers would work for this scenario. I've
been thinking about buying some mesh drum heads and using triggers with them
like Dimitrios. This would get most of the actual drum sound out of the
overheads. Check this link for some ideas.

http://www.harmony-central.com/Drums/EDW/triggers.html

Tony


"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:45a3f297@linux...
> Thanks, but I cant read that. ;-(
> Do they ship to USA?
>
> I dont see any on Ebay USA.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3f14c$1@linux...
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>> >link please..
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Brandon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
>> and
>> >> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>> >> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>> >> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
>> put
>> >> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with
> normal
>> >> recorded drums.
>> >> No preamp needed !!!
>> >> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded
> sound
>> >> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that
>> >> beauty
>> >plugin.
>> >> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
>> and
>> >> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>> >> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>> >> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>> >> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
>> with
>> >> volume variations.
>> >> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
>> low
>> >> hits to very loud.
>> >> Vwery very convincing...
>> >> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
>> on
>> >> every one with appropriatte samples.
>> >> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
>> >reverb
>> >> for creating that.
>> >> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>> >> I am sure it will work just fine.
>> >> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>> >> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>> >> Perfect world we live in right?
>> >> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>> >contain
>> >> that hihat again in it...
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dimitrios
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78096 is a reply to message #78079] Tue, 09 January 2007 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
For live purposes (or studio if you're so inclined) those piezo's make a
very nice trigger source to open gates too :)

AA

<Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>
> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums and
> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and put
> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
> recorded drums.
> No preamp needed !!!
> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
> plugin.
> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound and
> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
> By the way their snare is fabulous.
> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming with
> volume variations.
> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very low
> hits to very loud.
> Vwery very convincing...
> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog on
> every one with appropriatte samples.
> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
> reverb
> for creating that.
> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
> I am sure it will work just fine.
> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
> Perfect world we live in right?
> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
> contain
> that hihat again in it...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78099 is a reply to message #78083] Tue, 09 January 2007 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Hey Dimitrios,

Does Drumagog trigger live from mic inputs? That is, do you hear the
drumagog samples as you play the kit?

Or is a post process plugin that you apply after you record the trigger
signals? And then only hear the drumagog samples after you've recorded
the trigger signals and then applied drumagog to them?

If drumagog plays in real time from the kit with no trigger-to-midi
needed, I could play it at live shows directly from my ddrum triggers.
Would that be possible?

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Dimitrios wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>> link please..
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>>
>>
>> <Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
> and
>>> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>>> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>>> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
> put
>>> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
>>> recorded drums.
>>> No preamp needed !!!
>>> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
>>> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
>> plugin.
>>> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
> and
>>> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>>> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>>> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>>> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
> with
>>> volume variations.
>>> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
> low
>>> hits to very loud.
>>> Vwery very convincing...
>>> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
> on
>>> every one with appropriatte samples.
>>> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
>> reverb
>>> for creating that.
>>> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>>> I am sure it will work just fine.
>>> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>>> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>>> Perfect world we live in right?
>>> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>> contain
>>> that hihat again in it...
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78106 is a reply to message #78089] Tue, 09 January 2007 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
Having the drums in the overheads is usually crucial to my sounds... ymmv...



"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Brandon,
>
>I would think any piezo drum triggers would work for this scenario. I've

>been thinking about buying some mesh drum heads and using triggers with
them
>like Dimitrios. This would get most of the actual drum sound out of the

>overheads. Check this link for some ideas.
>
>http://www.harmony-central.com/Drums/EDW/triggers.html
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:45a3f297@linux...
>> Thanks, but I cant read that. ;-(
>> Do they ship to USA?
>>
>> I dont see any on Ebay USA.
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3f14c$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>>>
>>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>> >link please..
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Thanks,
>>> >
>>> >Brandon
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> ><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>> >>
>>> >> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
>>> and
>>> >> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>>> >> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>>> >> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape
and
>>> put
>>> >> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with
>> normal
>>> >> recorded drums.
>>> >> No preamp needed !!!
>>> >> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded
>> sound
>>> >> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that
>>> >> beauty
>>> >plugin.
>>> >> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
>>> and
>>> >> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>>> >> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>>> >> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>>> >> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
>>> with
>>> >> volume variations.
>>> >> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
>>> low
>>> >> hits to very loud.
>>> >> Vwery very convincing...
>>> >> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
>>> on
>>> >> every one with appropriatte samples.
>>> >> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some
good
>>> >reverb
>>> >> for creating that.
>>> >> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>>> >> I am sure it will work just fine.
>>> >> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>>> >> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>>> >> Perfect world we live in right?
>>> >> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>>> >contain
>>> >> that hihat again in it...
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Dimitrios
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78112 is a reply to message #78096] Tue, 09 January 2007 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
I remember, in Nashville, back in the late 80's, that was a pretty big thing.
Seperate lines from peizo's just to trigger gates. pretty much zero crosstalk.

r
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>For live purposes (or studio if you're so inclined) those piezo's make a

>very nice trigger source to open gates too :)
>
>AA
>
><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>
>> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
and
>> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
put
>> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
>> recorded drums.
>> No preamp needed !!!
>> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
>> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty

>> plugin.
>> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
and
>> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
with
>> volume variations.
>> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
low
>> hits to very loud.
>> Vwery very convincing...
>> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
on
>> every one with appropriatte samples.
>> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good

>> reverb
>> for creating that.
>> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>> I am sure it will work just fine.
>> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>> Perfect world we live in right?
>> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>> contain
>> that hihat again in it...
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78118 is a reply to message #78099] Tue, 09 January 2007 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
Senior Member
Live would be impossible hearing drumagog playing because for best triggering
it uses around 50ms delay ...
It has a live feature which sounds but in my system at least...
Also I don't thjink Paris monitors VST/DX when recording.
You have to have another audio card running VST for live monitoring...
I am sure with some exhausting tests you may come up with a working solution
but in any case you moght need a second computer with audio card for that...
Regards,
Dimitrios

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Dimitrios,
>
>Does Drumagog trigger live from mic inputs? That is, do you hear the
>drumagog samples as you play the kit?
>
>Or is a post process plugin that you apply after you record the trigger

>signals? And then only hear the drumagog samples after you've recorded
>the trigger signals and then applied drumagog to them?
>
>If drumagog plays in real time from the kit with no trigger-to-midi
>needed, I could play it at live shows directly from my ddrum triggers.
>Would that be possible?
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>Dimitrios wrote:
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>> link please..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>>> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
>> and
>>>> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>>>> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>>>> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
>> put
>>>> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
>>>> recorded drums.
>>>> No preamp needed !!!
>>>> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
>>>> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
>>> plugin.
>>>> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
>> and
>>>> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>>>> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>>>> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>>>> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
>> with
>>>> volume variations.
>>>> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
>> low
>>>> hits to very loud.
>>>> Vwery very convincing...
>>>> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
>> on
>>>> every one with appropriatte samples.
>>>> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
>>> reverb
>>>> for creating that.
>>>> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>>>> I am sure it will work just fine.
>>>> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>>>> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>>>> Perfect world we live in right?
>>>> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>>> contain
>>>> that hihat again in it...
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78122 is a reply to message #78118] Wed, 10 January 2007 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Thanks Dimitrios! I'd be running it in Logic on a fast Mac. But if it
has an operating delay then you're right, it won't work for live
performance.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Dimitrios wrote:
> Live would be impossible hearing drumagog playing because for best triggering
> it uses around 50ms delay ...
> It has a live feature which sounds but in my system at least...
> Also I don't thjink Paris monitors VST/DX when recording.
> You have to have another audio card running VST for live monitoring...
> I am sure with some exhausting tests you may come up with a working solution
> but in any case you moght need a second computer with audio card for that...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Hey Dimitrios,
>>
>> Does Drumagog trigger live from mic inputs? That is, do you hear the
>> drumagog samples as you play the kit?
>>
>> Or is a post process plugin that you apply after you record the trigger
>
>> signals? And then only hear the drumagog samples after you've recorded
>> the trigger signals and then applied drumagog to them?
>>
>> If drumagog plays in real time from the kit with no trigger-to-midi
>> needed, I could play it at live shows directly from my ddrum triggers.
>> Would that be possible?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Dimitrios wrote:
>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>> link please..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>>>> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
>>> and
>>>>> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>>>>> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>>>>> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
>>> put
>>>>> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
>>>>> recorded drums.
>>>>> No preamp needed !!!
>>>>> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
>>>>> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
>>>> plugin.
>>>>> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
>>> and
>>>>> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>>>>> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>>>>> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>>>>> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
>>> with
>>>>> volume variations.
>>>>> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
>>> low
>>>>> hits to very loud.
>>>>> Vwery very convincing...
>>>>> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
>>> on
>>>>> every one with appropriatte samples.
>>>>> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
>>>> reverb
>>>>> for creating that.
>>>>> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>>>>> I am sure it will work just fine.
>>>>> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>>>>> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>>>>> Perfect world we live in right?
>>>>> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>>>> contain
>>>>> that hihat again in it...
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dimitrios
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78123 is a reply to message #78087] Wed, 10 January 2007 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   NORWAY
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
15 EURO = about 19 USD, as far as I can see.

Erling

"Brandon" <a@a.com> skrev i melding news:45a3fe99$1@linux...
> Is 14,90 EURO = 1,936.46 USD
> OR 19.3618 USD
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
>
>
> <Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>
>> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
>> and
>> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and put
>> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
>> recorded drums.
>> No preamp needed !!!
>> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
>> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
> plugin.
>> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
>> and
>> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
>> with
>> volume variations.
>> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very low
>> hits to very loud.
>> Vwery very convincing...
>> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog on
>> every one with appropriatte samples.
>> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
> reverb
>> for creating that.
>> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>> I am sure it will work just fine.
>> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>> Perfect world we live in right?
>> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
> contain
>> that hihat again in it...
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78124 is a reply to message #78084] Wed, 10 January 2007 03:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Hi Brandon

He just emailed me back with a shipping cost of 16 Euros to Canada so I'd
expect much the same for the States

DOn

"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:45a3f297@linux...
> Thanks, but I cant read that. ;-(
> Do they ship to USA?
>
> I dont see any on Ebay USA.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3f14c$1@linux...
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>> >link please..
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Brandon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
>> and
>> >> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>> >> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>> >> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
>> put
>> >> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with
> normal
>> >> recorded drums.
>> >> No preamp needed !!!
>> >> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded
> sound
>> >> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that
>> >> beauty
>> >plugin.
>> >> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
>> and
>> >> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>> >> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>> >> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>> >> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
>> with
>> >> volume variations.
>> >> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
>> low
>> >> hits to very loud.
>> >> Vwery very convincing...
>> >> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
>> on
>> >> every one with appropriatte samples.
>> >> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
>> >reverb
>> >> for creating that.
>> >> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>> >> I am sure it will work just fine.
>> >> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>> >> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>> >> Perfect world we live in right?
>> >> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>> >contain
>> >> that hihat again in it...
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dimitrios
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78126 is a reply to message #78118] Wed, 10 January 2007 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brandon[2] is currently offline  brandon[2]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 380
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> Also I don't thjink Paris monitors VST/DX when recording.


I wonder if Chucks new project could fix this?



--
Thanks,

B

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a48d96$1@linux...
>
> Live would be impossible hearing drumagog playing because for best
triggering
> it uses around 50ms delay ...
> It has a live feature which sounds but in my system at least...
> Also I don't thjink Paris monitors VST/DX when recording.
> You have to have another audio card running VST for live monitoring...
> I am sure with some exhausting tests you may come up with a working
solution
> but in any case you moght need a second computer with audio card for
that...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hey Dimitrios,
> >
> >Does Drumagog trigger live from mic inputs? That is, do you hear the
> >drumagog samples as you play the kit?
> >
> >Or is a post process plugin that you apply after you record the trigger
>
> >signals? And then only hear the drumagog samples after you've recorded
> >the trigger signals and then applied drumagog to them?
> >
> >If drumagog plays in real time from the kit with no trigger-to-midi
> >needed, I could play it at live shows directly from my ddrum triggers.
> >Would that be possible?
> >
> >Cheers,
> > -Jamie
> > www.JamieKrutz.com
> >
> >
> >Dimitrios wrote:
> >>
http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
> >>
> >>
http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >>
> >>
http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >>
> >> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
> >>> link please..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Brandon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message
news:45a3e838$1@linux...
> >>>> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering
drums
> >> and
> >>>> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
> >>>> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
> >>>> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
> >> put
> >>>> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with
normal
> >>>> recorded drums.
> >>>> No preamp needed !!!
> >>>> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded
sound
> >>>> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that
beauty
> >>> plugin.
> >>>> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the
sound
> >> and
> >>>> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
> >>>> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
> >>>> By the way their snare is fabulous.
> >>>> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
> >> with
> >>>> volume variations.
> >>>> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
> >> low
> >>>> hits to very loud.
> >>>> Vwery very convincing...
> >>>> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put
drumagog
> >> on
> >>>> every one with appropriatte samples.
> >>>> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some
good
> >>> reverb
> >>>> for creating that.
> >>>> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
> >>>> I am sure it will work just fine.
> >>>> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
> >>>> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
> >>>> Perfect world we live in right?
> >>>> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
> >>> contain
> >>>> that hihat again in it...
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Dimitrios
> >>>
> >>
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78143 is a reply to message #78106] Wed, 10 January 2007 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
Well, it is in my current set up also, but I was thinking in the mind set of
using Drumagog to replace the drums completely through triggers rather than
just augmenting them. I use Drumagog to "add" to my acoustic drum tracks all
the time, but sometimes I'd like to have totally synth or whacked out drum
kit sounds. I thought about using triggers and mesh heads on a second "el
cheapo" drum kit to get a poor man's Roland TD-20 if you will. I could never
go completely electronic with the drums. As good as some of the electronic
kits out there are, they still don't have all the nuances of real drums.

Tony


"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:45a44d44$1@linux...
>
> Having the drums in the overheads is usually crucial to my sounds...
> ymmv...
>
>
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>Brandon,
>>
>>I would think any piezo drum triggers would work for this scenario. I've
>
>>been thinking about buying some mesh drum heads and using triggers with
> them
>>like Dimitrios. This would get most of the actual drum sound out of the
>
>>overheads. Check this link for some ideas.
>>
>>http://www.harmony-central.com/Drums/EDW/triggers.html
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:45a3f297@linux...
>>> Thanks, but I cant read that. ;-(
>>> Do they ship to USA?
>>>
>>> I dont see any on Ebay USA.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>> news:45a3f14c$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>>
>>>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>> >link please..
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >--
>>>> >Thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> >Brandon
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> ><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>> >news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering
>>>> >> drums
>>>> and
>>>> >> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>>>> >> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>>>> >> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape
> and
>>>> put
>>>> >> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with
>>> normal
>>>> >> recorded drums.
>>>> >> No preamp needed !!!
>>>> >> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded
>>> sound
>>>> >> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that
>>>> >> beauty
>>>> >plugin.
>>>> >> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the
>>>> >> sound
>>>> and
>>>> >> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>>>> >> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>>>> >> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>>>> >> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual
>>>> >> drumming
>>>> with
>>>> >> volume variations.
>>>> >> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from
>>>> >> very
>>>> low
>>>> >> hits to very loud.
>>>> >> Vwery very convincing...
>>>> >> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put
>>>> >> drumagog
>>>> on
>>>> >> every one with appropriatte samples.
>>>> >> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some
> good
>>>> >reverb
>>>> >> for creating that.
>>>> >> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>>>> >> I am sure it will work just fine.
>>>> >> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>>>> >> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>>>> >> Perfect world we live in right?
>>>> >> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>>>> >contain
>>>> >> that hihat again in it...
>>>> >> Regards,
>>>> >> Dimitrios
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78145 is a reply to message #78122] Wed, 10 January 2007 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
Jamie,

Drumagog will trigger fine live. In "live" mode, Drumagog has almost zero
latency, but the accuracy is lower as far as dynamic tracking. It tracks
your playing just fine, but it won't be as accurate choosing which sample to
play back. This sounds worse than it really is and I think it would work
just fine for live triggering.

Here's what the Drumagog site says:

"Live Triggering Mode: This zero-latency mode is designed for use in a live
Drumagog setup. For example, when using Drumagog as an insert on the main
console in a live concert performance, or using Drumagog as a "drum brain"
for drum trigger pads. However, it doesn't offer the same triggering quality
as the other modes, and is only recommended for use in situations that
demand zero latency."

Tony



"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45a4a15a@linux...
>
> Thanks Dimitrios! I'd be running it in Logic on a fast Mac. But if it has
> an operating delay then you're right, it won't work for live performance.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Dimitrios wrote:
>> Live would be impossible hearing drumagog playing because for best
>> triggering
>> it uses around 50ms delay ...
>> It has a live feature which sounds but in my system at least...
>> Also I don't thjink Paris monitors VST/DX when recording.
>> You have to have another audio card running VST for live monitoring...
>> I am sure with some exhausting tests you may come up with a working
>> solution
>> but in any case you moght need a second computer with audio card for
>> that...
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>> Hey Dimitrios,
>>>
>>> Does Drumagog trigger live from mic inputs? That is, do you hear the
>>> drumagog samples as you play the kit?
>>>
>>> Or is a post process plugin that you apply after you record the trigger
>>
>>> signals? And then only hear the drumagog samples after you've recorded
>>> the trigger signals and then applied drumagog to them?
>>>
>>> If drumagog plays in real time from the kit with no trigger-to-midi
>>> needed, I could play it at live shows directly from my ddrum triggers.
>>> Would that be possible?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Dimitrios wrote:
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>>>>
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>>
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>>
>>>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>>> link please..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>>>>> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering
>>>>>> drums
>>>> and
>>>>>> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>>>>>> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>>>>>> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
>>>> put
>>>>>> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with
>>>>>> normal
>>>>>> recorded drums.
>>>>>> No preamp needed !!!
>>>>>> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded
>>>>>> sound
>>>>>> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that
>>>>>> beauty
>>>>> plugin.
>>>>>> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the
>>>>>> sound
>>>> and
>>>>>> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>>>>>> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>>>>>> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>>>>>> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
>>>> with
>>>>>> volume variations.
>>>>>> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
>>>> low
>>>>>> hits to very loud.
>>>>>> Vwery very convincing...
>>>>>> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put
>>>>>> drumagog
>>>> on
>>>>>> every one with appropriatte samples.
>>>>>> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some
>>>>>> good
>>>>> reverb
>>>>>> for creating that.
>>>>>> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>>>>>> I am sure it will work just fine.
>>>>>> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>>>>>> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>>>>>> Perfect world we live in right?
>>>>>> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>>>>> contain
>>>>>> that hihat again in it...
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>
Re: Perfect drummiking-triggering for super production ! [message #78153 is a reply to message #78145] Wed, 10 January 2007 12:24 Go to previous message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Thanks Tony! That's encouraging, I'll have to see if anyone local can
give a demo.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Tony Benson wrote:
> Jamie,
>
> Drumagog will trigger fine live. In "live" mode, Drumagog has almost zero
> latency, but the accuracy is lower as far as dynamic tracking. It tracks
> your playing just fine, but it won't be as accurate choosing which sample to
> play back. This sounds worse than it really is and I think it would work
> just fine for live triggering.
>
> Here's what the Drumagog site says:
>
> "Live Triggering Mode: This zero-latency mode is designed for use in a live
> Drumagog setup. For example, when using Drumagog as an insert on the main
> console in a live concert performance, or using Drumagog as a "drum brain"
> for drum trigger pads. However, it doesn't offer the same triggering quality
> as the other modes, and is only recommended for use in situations that
> demand zero latency."
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45a4a15a@linux...
>> Thanks Dimitrios! I'd be running it in Logic on a fast Mac. But if it has
>> an operating delay then you're right, it won't work for live performance.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Dimitrios wrote:
>>> Live would be impossible hearing drumagog playing because for best
>>> triggering
>>> it uses around 50ms delay ...
>>> It has a live feature which sounds but in my system at least...
>>> Also I don't thjink Paris monitors VST/DX when recording.
>>> You have to have another audio card running VST for live monitoring...
>>> I am sure with some exhausting tests you may come up with a working
>>> solution
>>> but in any case you moght need a second computer with audio card for
>>> that...
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey Dimitrios,
>>>>
>>>> Does Drumagog trigger live from mic inputs? That is, do you hear the
>>>> drumagog samples as you play the kit?
>>>>
>>>> Or is a post process plugin that you apply after you record the trigger
>>>> signals? And then only hear the drumagog samples after you've recorded
>>>> the trigger signals and then applied drumagog to them?
>>>>
>>>> If drumagog plays in real time from the kit with no trigger-to-midi
>>>> needed, I could play it at live shows directly from my ddrum triggers.
>>>> Would that be possible?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dimitrios wrote:
>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>>>
>>>>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>>>> link please..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>>>>>> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering
>>>>>>> drums
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>>>>>>> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>>>>>>> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
>>>>> put
>>>>>>> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with
>>>>>>> normal
>>>>>>> recorded drums.
>>>>>>> No preamp needed !!!
>>>>>>> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded
>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that
>>>>>>> beauty
>>>>>> plugin.
>>>>>>> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the
>>>>>>> sound
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>>>>>>> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>>>>>>> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>>>>>>> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> volume variations.
>>>>>>> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
>>>>> low
>>>>>>> hits to very loud.
>>>>>>> Vwery very convincing...
>>>>>>> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put
>>>>>>> drumagog
>>>>> on
>>>>>>> every one with appropriatte samples.
>>>>>>> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>> reverb
>>>>>>> for creating that.
>>>>>>> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>>>>>>> I am sure it will work just fine.
>>>>>>> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>>>>>>> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>>>>>>> Perfect world we live in right?
>>>>>>> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>>>>>> contain
>>>>>>> that hihat again in it...
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>
>
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