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| OT: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84730] |
Thu, 17 May 2007 17:24  |
Rich Lamanna
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You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why the
heck not welcome some more illegals.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its
preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
"FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a
Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and
hated
and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs
nothing
to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the
timid."
-- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
"The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the brave."
-- Ronald Reagan
"The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the
active,
the brave." -- Patrick Henry
"The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home of
the brave."-- Rick Gaber
"Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." --
Winston Churchill
Guidance,
Rich
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| Re: OT: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84752 is a reply to message #84730] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 04:19  |
Bill L
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I strongly support freedom, especially freedom of religion. Part of
religious freedom is the freedom of religious choice.
A religion worthy of freedom would increase individual freedom.
With freedom comes increased responsibility; with increased
responsibility comes increased freedom. By increasing freedoms for all
one's own freedoms are increased.
“Constant and continual alertness is the price of freedom.
Constant willingness to fight back is the price of freedom.
There is no other price actually.”
— L. RON HUBBARD
Rich Lamanna wrote:
> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why the
> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>
> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>
> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>
> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its
> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>
> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a
> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>
> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and
> hated
> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs
> nothing
> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>
> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the
> timid."
> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>
> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the brave."
> -- Ronald Reagan
>
> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the
> active,
> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>
> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home of
> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>
> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." --
> Winston Churchill
>
> Guidance,
> Rich
>
>
>
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84754 is a reply to message #84730] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 05:44 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
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Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been treating
terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always been
instead of as a pretense for war, flourishing nests of fanatical morons like
this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with you, but I
hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last four years
has done anything but fan the flames.
Some alternative quotations:
"And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the war-cry, and
shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth;
and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent
cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every
man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently
study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will
by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the
better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." -
Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of
unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the
military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of
misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or
democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and
knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial
and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so
that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. Eisenhower,
1961
"...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of
our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those
illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is
certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it
results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - Ronald
Reagan
"You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go
to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or
whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live in
America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger
even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that
right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the
Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that
a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a
higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston Churchill
(who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative heart/brain
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12 )
"Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
"Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. Eat
them!" - Homer Simpson
"Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from Simpsons
episode
Courage,
Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12
"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:464ce932@linux...
> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why
> the
> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>
> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>
> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>
> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in
> its
> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>
> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a
> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>
> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and
> hated
> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it
> costs
> nothing
> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>
> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the
> timid."
> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>
> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the
> brave."
> -- Ronald Reagan
>
> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the
> active,
> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>
> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home of
> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>
> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." --
> Winston Churchill
>
> Guidance,
> Rich
>
>
>
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| Re: OT: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84755 is a reply to message #84752] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 06:51 |
Rich Lamanna
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Bill, I have no problem with freedom, you infidel :-) I am a
constitutionalist and believe strongly in the 1st amendment. Unfortunately
the radical Islamic doesn't cherish those same freedoms you and I hold
dearly. They are willing to die to impose their fascism and intolerant
theocratic rubbish upon us.
Remember Waco. The ATF, under the administration of Clinton and Janet
Sterno, stormed the Branch Davidian home, in Rambo fashion, to serve a
search warrant issued on the suspicion that the group was stockpiling
automatic weapons, massacring almost 100 hundred men, women, and children.
But I doubt that the FBI or ATF would ever raid these holy men, oh God no,
despite the fact that they are irrefutably armed to the teeth and practicing
for violent Jihad.
Did you read the article dude? Did you read the part about the violent
incidents involving Jamaat Ul Fuora in the US?
"By 2004 federal investigators uncovered evidence that linked both the DC
"sniper killer" John Allen Muhammed and "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid to the
group and reports surfaced that Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl
was captured and beheaded in the process of attempting to obtain an
interview with Sheikh Gilani in Pakistan."
http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/paul-williams-map-larg e.jpg
What were Koresh and the Davidians guilty of? Maybe of being Christians.
Nothing compared to this group. Wake up man, this is not about freedom of
religion this is about a Jihad threatening our existence and the choice to
exercise any freedoms let alone freedom of religion. We had better keep an
eye on these guys.
Rich
From my cold dead hands - Charlton Heston
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:464d8d4f@linux...
> I strongly support freedom, especially freedom of religion. Part of
> religious freedom is the freedom of religious choice.
>
> A religion worthy of freedom would increase individual freedom.
>
> With freedom comes increased responsibility; with increased
> responsibility comes increased freedom. By increasing freedoms for all
> one's own freedoms are increased.
>
> “Constant and continual alertness is the price of freedom.
> Constant willingness to fight back is the price of freedom.
> There is no other price actually.”
> — L. RON HUBBARD
>
>
>
>
> Rich Lamanna wrote:
> > You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why
the
> > heck not welcome some more illegals.
> >
> > http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
> >
> > "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
> >
> > "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in
its
> > preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
> >
> > "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a
> > Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
> >
> > "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave,
and
> > hated
> > and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it
costs
> > nothing
> > to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
> >
> > "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the
> > timid."
> > -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
> >
> > "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the
brave."
> > -- Ronald Reagan
> >
> > "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the
> > active,
> > the brave." -- Patrick Henry
> >
> > "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home of
> > the brave."-- Rick Gaber
> >
> > "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
> > and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." --
> > Winston Churchill
> >
> > Guidance,
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84757 is a reply to message #84754] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 07:27 |
Rich Lamanna
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No, Sarah this doesn't surprise me. Wasn't the prior administration treating
Terrorism as an "International Criminal Problem"? That did leagues to stem
the tide of extremism. Iraq is the tinder box for terrorism at the moment.
If we leave without a clear strategy and resolution, there is no doubt that
it will embolden the enemy with dire consequences both there, elsewhere in
the Islamic world and here as well.
I'm reading a book right now titled, "Human Rights Abuses In Iraq",
published by Human Rights Watch, prior to our invasion and when Sadam was in
power. Believe me when I say Iraq now is a utopia compared to what it was
before, (tongue firmly planted in cheek). Seriously, you can't believe the
stuff that was going on there.
I believe Blair was right in saying history would forgive us even if no
weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq.
"If we are wrong, we will have destroyed a threat that at its least is
responsible for inhuman carnage and suffering. That is something I am
confident history will forgive," "But if our critics are wrong... and we do
not act, then we will have hesitated in the face of this menace when we
should have given leadership. That is something history will not forgive.
Rich
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:464da14d@linux...
> Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been treating
> terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always been
> instead of as a pretense for war, flourishing nests of fanatical morons
like
> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with you, but I
> hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last four years
> has done anything but fan the flames.
>
> Some alternative quotations:
>
> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the war-cry, and
> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his
mouth;
> and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will
invent
> cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every
> man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will
diligently
> study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he
will
> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for
the
> better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." -
> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>
> "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of
> unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the
> military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of
> misplaced power exists and will persist.
>
> We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or
> democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert
and
> knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge
industrial
> and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so
> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. Eisenhower,
> 1961
>
> "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of
> our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those
> illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is
> certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it
> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - Ronald
> Reagan
>
> "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can
go
> to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or
> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live in
> America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>
> "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the
manger
> even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit
that
> right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to
the
> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit
that
> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a
> higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston Churchill
> (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative
heart/brain
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12 )
>
> "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>
> "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
>
> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. Eat
> them!" - Homer Simpson
>
> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from Simpsons
> episode
>
> Courage,
> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>
>
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:464ce932@linux...
> > You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why
> > the
> > heck not welcome some more illegals.
> >
> > http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
> >
> > "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
> >
> > "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in
> > its
> > preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
> >
> > "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a
> > Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
> >
> > "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave,
and
> > hated
> > and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it
> > costs
> > nothing
> > to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
> >
> > "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the
> > timid."
> > -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
> >
> > "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the
> > brave."
> > -- Ronald Reagan
> >
> > "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the
> > active,
> > the brave." -- Patrick Henry
> >
> > "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home of
> > the brave."-- Rick Gaber
> >
> > "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
> > and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." --
> > Winston Churchill
> >
> > Guidance,
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Re: OT: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84761 is a reply to message #84755] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 07:01 |
Paul Artola
Messages: 161
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Rich -
Considering the events that ensued, I think the Feds' suspicions were
correct. Interesting that you put the entire blame on the Feds for the
final result. I, for one, am glad that Koresh and his collection of
whackjobs are closer to God now, though it is a shame that THEY choose
to take many innocents with them.
Calling the Davidians Christians is like calling GWB eloquent.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:51:46 -0500, "Rich Lamanna"
<richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>Remember Waco. The ATF, under the administration of Clinton and Janet
>Sterno, stormed the Branch Davidian home, in Rambo fashion, to serve a
>search warrant issued on the suspicion that the group was stockpiling
>automatic weapons, massacring almost 100 hundred men, women, and children.
>But I doubt that the FBI or ATF would ever raid these holy men, oh God no,
>despite the fact that they are irrefutably armed to the teeth and practicing
>for violent Jihad.
(snip)
>
>What were Koresh and the Davidians guilty of? Maybe of being Christians.
(snip)
>
>Rich
>
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84763 is a reply to message #84754] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 08:13 |
Deej [4]
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> terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always been=20
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..........now if they would just build an asprin factory there, we could =
attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the people there are =
black so this would be PC.
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> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with you, =
but I=20
> hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last four =
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> has done anything but fan the flames.
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there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
> Some alternative quotations:
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> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the war-cry, =
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> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his =
mouth;=20
> and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will =
invent=20
> cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and =
every=20
> man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will =
diligently=20
> study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he =
will=20
> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God =
for the=20
> better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
self-deception." -=20
> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort =
them as much as you please".
>=20
> "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition =
of=20
> unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
> military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of=20
> misplaced power exists and will persist.
Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in my =
life, some of which actually happened"
>=20
> We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
liberties or=20
> democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an =
alert and=20
> knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge =
industrial=20
> and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, =
so=20
> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
Eisenhower,=20
> 1961
Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon an =
alert and knowldegable CIA"=20
> "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great =
numbers of=20
> our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are =
those=20
> illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One =
thing is=20
> certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed =
if it=20
> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - =
Ronald=20
> Reagan
I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own personal =
health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle insurance is =
such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked =
living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. If =
I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I =
know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>=20
> "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you =
can go=20
> to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, =
or=20
> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live =
in=20
> America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan. Are =
you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra Show? How about the way =
we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? Ollie North one =
of your heroes?=20
>=20
> "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the =
manger=20
> even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not =
admit that=20
> right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done =
to the=20
> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not =
admit that=20
> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger =
race, a=20
> higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston =
Churchill=20
> (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative =
heart/brain=20
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112 )
I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find a way to =
challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a law that handed =
Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick their asses out of =
there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
=20
> "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
"I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of =
intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00 to =
educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
"When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a disgrace, =
and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>=20
> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. Eat=20
> them!" - Homer Simpson
>=20
> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from =
Simpsons=20
> episode
"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>=20
> Courage,
> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would =
take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet =
place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
;o)
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>=20
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
> news:464ce932@linux...
>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. =
Why=20
>> the
>> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>
>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>
>> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>>
>> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant =
in=20
>> its
>> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>
>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside =
a
>> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>
>> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, =
and
>> hated
>> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it =
>> costs
>> nothing
>> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>
>> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the
>> timid."
>> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>
>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the=20
>> brave."
>> -- Ronald Reagan
>>
>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, =
the
>> active,
>> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>
>> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home =
of
>> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>
>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." =
--=20
>> Winston Churchill
>>
>> Guidance,
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>=20
>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sarah" <</FONT><A=20
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size=3D2>> wrote in=20
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size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Surely this doesn't surprise you . =
.. . ? =20
Perhaps if we'd been treating <BR>> terrorism as the international =
criminal=20
problem that it's always been <BR>> instead of as a pretense for war, =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.........now if they would just build =
an asprin=20
factory there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most =
of the=20
people there are black so this would be PC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical morons =
like <BR>>=20
this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with =
you, but I=20
<BR>> hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last =
four=20
years <BR>> has done anything but fan the flames.<BR>> =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are lots of flourishing nests of =
fanatical=20
morons Sarah.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><A=20
href=3D" http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp"><=
FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp</=
FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Some alternative =
quotations:<BR>>=20
<BR>> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
war-cry,=20
and <BR>> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to =
open=20
his mouth; <BR>> and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next =
the=20
statesmen will invent <BR>> cheap lies, putting the blame upon the =
nation=20
that is attacked, and every <BR>> man will be glad of those=20
conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently <BR>> study them, =
and=20
refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will <BR>> by =
and by=20
convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the =
<BR>>=20
better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." =
-=20
<BR>> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "Get your facts =
first, and=20
then you can distort them as much as you please".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "In the councils of =
government,=20
we must guard against the acquisition of <BR>> unwarranted influence, =
whether=20
sought or unsought, by the <BR>> military-industrial complex. The =
potential=20
for the disastrous rise of <BR>> misplaced power exists and will=20
persist.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "I have been =
throught some=20
terrible things in my life, some of which actually =
happened"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never let the =
weight of=20
this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> democratic =
processes. We=20
should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and <BR>> =
knowledgeable=20
citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial <BR>> =
and=20
military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so =
<BR>>=20
that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. Eisenhower, =
<BR>> 1961</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej also said "An alert and =
knowledgable citizenry=20
depends upon an alert and knowldegable CIA" </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> "...it makes one wonder about =
the illegal=20
alien fuss. Are great numbers of <BR>> our unemployed really victims =
of the=20
illegal alien invasion or are those <BR>> illegal tourists actually =
doing=20
work our own people won't do? One thing is <BR>> certain in this =
hungry=20
world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it <BR>> results in =
crops=20
rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - Ronald <BR>>=20
Reagan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with this. I also think I =
should not have=20
to produce any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my =
own=20
personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle =
insurance=20
is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also =
liked=20
living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. If =
I go=20
down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I have a =
wreck=20
down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I =
know these=20
things for a fact. Pisses me off.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "You can go to live =
in France,=20
but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go <BR>> to live in =
Germany, you=20
cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or <BR>> whatever. But =
anyone,=20
from any corner of the world, can come to live in <BR>> America and =
become an=20
American." - more Ronald Reagan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it's sooooo cool when people =
who are=20
liberal quote Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the =
Contra Show?=20
How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? =
Ollie=20
North one of your heroes? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "I do not agree that =
the dog in=20
a manger has the final right to the manger <BR>> even though he may =
have lain=20
there for a very long time. I do not admit that <BR>> right. I do not =
admit=20
for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the <BR>> Red =
Indians of=20
America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that <BR>> a =
wrong=20
has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a =
<BR>>=20
higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston =
Churchill=20
<BR>> (who apparently never said that thing about =
liberal/conservative=20
heart/brain <BR>> </FONT><A=20
href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2> )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers =
involved,=20
they could find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we could =
pass a=20
law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick =
their=20
asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.<BR> <BR>> =
"Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I read in the newspapers they are =
going to have 30=20
minutes of intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to =
8.00 to=20
educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
6:30".-Groucho=20
Marx<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>>Patriotism is the last refuge =
of a=20
scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT>=93When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes =
a=20
disgrace, and death a duty."-</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>W.C.=20
Fields</FONT></FONT><BR>> <BR>> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't =
eat me! I=20
have a wife and kids. Eat <BR>> them!" - Homer Simpson</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>> <BR>> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant =
protest=20
sign from Simpsons <BR>> episode</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.<BR><BR>> =
<BR>>=20
Courage,<BR>> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . =
)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a =
man should=20
challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and =
lead him=20
to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>> <BR>> </FONT><A=20
href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
</FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>> "Rich Lamanna" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>richard.lamanna@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>> wrote=20
in message <BR>> </FONT><A href=3D"news:464ce932@linux"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:464ce932@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>...<BR>>> You=20
can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why =
<BR>>>=20
the<BR>>> heck not welcome some more =
illegals.<BR>>><BR>>>=20
</FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm"><FON=
T=20
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm</FON=
T></A><BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>>><BR>>> "Eternal vigilance is the =
price of=20
liberty." -- Wendell Phillips<BR>>><BR>>> "No man is =
entitled to the=20
blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in <BR>>> =
its<BR>>>=20
preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur<BR>>><BR>>> =
"FREEDOM IS=20
NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a<BR>>> =
Unitarian=20
Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001<BR>>><BR>>> "In the =
beginning of a=20
change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and<BR>>> =
hated<BR>>>=20
and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it=20
<BR>>> costs<BR>>> nothing<BR>>> to be a patriot." -- =
Mark=20
Twain<BR>>><BR>>> "History does not long entrust the care of =
freedom=20
to the weak or the<BR>>> timid."<BR>>> -- Dwight D. =
Eisenhower,=20
First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953<BR>>><BR>>> "The =
future=20
doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the =
<BR>>>=20
brave."<BR>>> -- Ronald Reagan<BR>>><BR>>> "The =
battle, sir,=20
is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the<BR>>>=20
active,<BR>>> the brave." -- Patrick Henry<BR>>><BR>>> =
"The=20
land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home =
of<BR>>>=20
the brave."-- Rick Gaber<BR>>><BR>>> "Any 20 year-old who =
isn't a=20
liberal doesn't have a heart,<BR>>> and any 40 year-old who isn't =
a=20
conservative doesn't have a brain." -- <BR>>> Winston=20
Churchill<BR>>><BR>>> Guidance,<BR>>>=20
Rich<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>=20
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Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It astounds me =
at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for Islamic =
extremist violence and fascism while at the same time condemn those =
democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the right to defend =
themselves against such attacks.
Rich
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464dc442@linux...
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
news:464da14d@linux...
> Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been =
treating=20
> terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always =
been=20
> instead of as a pretense for war,=20
.........now if they would just build an asprin factory there, we =
could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the people =
there are black so this would be PC.
flourishing nests of fanatical morons like=20
> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with you, =
but I=20
> hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last four =
years=20
> has done anything but fan the flames.
>=20
there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
> Some alternative quotations:
>=20
> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
war-cry, and=20
> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his =
mouth;=20
> and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen =
will invent=20
> cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and =
every=20
> man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will =
diligently=20
> study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus =
he will=20
> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God =
for the=20
> better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
self-deception." -=20
> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort =
them as much as you please".
>=20
> "In the councils of government, we must guard against the =
acquisition of=20
> unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
> military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise =
of=20
> misplaced power exists and will persist.
Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in my =
life, some of which actually happened"
>=20
> We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
liberties or=20
> democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an =
alert and=20
> knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge =
industrial=20
> and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and =
goals, so=20
> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
Eisenhower,=20
> 1961
Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon an =
alert and knowldegable CIA"=20
> "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great =
numbers of=20
> our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are =
those=20
> illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One =
thing is=20
> certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed =
if it=20
> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - =
Ronald=20
> Reagan
I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own personal =
health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle insurance is =
such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked =
living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. If =
I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I =
know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>=20
> "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; =
you can go=20
> to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a =
Greek, or=20
> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live =
in=20
> America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan. Are =
you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra Show? How about the way =
we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? Ollie North one =
of your heroes?=20
>=20
> "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the =
manger=20
> even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not =
admit that=20
> right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done =
to the=20
> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not =
admit that=20
> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger =
race, a=20
> higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston =
Churchill=20
> (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative =
heart/brain=20
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112 )
I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find a way =
to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a law that =
handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick their asses out =
of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
=20
> "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
"I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of =
intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00 to =
educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
"When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a =
disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>=20
> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. Eat =
> them!" - Homer Simpson
>=20
> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from =
Simpsons=20
> episode
"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>=20
> Courage,
> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I =
would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a =
quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
;o)
>=20
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
> news:464ce932@linux...
>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. =
Why=20
>> the
>> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>
>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>
>> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>>
>> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be =
vigilant in=20
>> its
>> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>
>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement =
outside a
>> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>
>> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and =
brave, and
>> hated
>> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then =
it=20
>> costs
>> nothing
>> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>
>> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or =
the
>> timid."
>> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>
>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the =
>> brave."
>> -- Ronald Reagan
>>
>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the =
vigilant, the
>> active,
>> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>
>> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home =
of
>> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>
>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." =
--=20
>> Winston Churchill
>>
>> Guidance,
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>=20
>=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well =
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
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wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:464dc442@linux">news:464dc442@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sarah" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>> wrote=20
in message </FONT><A href=3D"news:464da14d@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:464da14d@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Surely this doesn't surprise you =
.. . .=20
? Perhaps if we'd been treating <BR>> terrorism as the =
international=20
criminal problem that it's always been <BR>> instead of as a =
pretense for=20
war, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.........now if they would just build =
an asprin=20
factory there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like =
most of the=20
people there are black so this would be PC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical morons =
like=20
<BR>> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, =
I'm with=20
you, but I <BR>> hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq =
for the=20
last four years <BR>> has done anything but fan the flames.<BR>> =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are lots of flourishing nests =
of fanatical=20
morons Sarah.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D" http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp"><=
FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
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size=3D2> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp</=
FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Some alternative =
quotations:<BR>>=20
<BR>> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
war-cry,=20
and <BR>> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures =
to open=20
his mouth; <BR>> and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next =
the=20
statesmen will invent <BR>> cheap lies, putting the blame upon the =
nation=20
that is attacked, and every <BR>> man will be glad of those=20
conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently <BR>> study =
them, and=20
refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will <BR>> =
by and by=20
convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the =
<BR>>=20
better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
self-deception." -=20
<BR>> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "Get your facts =
first, and=20
then you can distort them as much as you please".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "In the councils of =
government,=20
we must guard against the acquisition of <BR>> unwarranted =
influence,=20
whether sought or unsought, by the <BR>> military-industrial =
complex. The=20
potential for the disastrous rise of <BR>> misplaced power exists =
and will=20
persist.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "I have been =
throught some=20
terrible things in my life, some of which actually =
happened"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never let =
the weight of=20
this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> democratic =
processes. We=20
should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and <BR>> =
knowledgeable=20
citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial =
<BR>> and=20
military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so =
<BR>>=20
that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
Eisenhower,=20
<BR>> 1961</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej also said "An alert and =
knowledgable=20
citizenry depends upon an alert and knowldegable CIA" </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> "...it makes one wonder =
about the=20
illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of <BR>> our unemployed =
really=20
victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those <BR>> illegal =
tourists=20
actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is <BR>> =
certain in=20
this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it =
<BR>>=20
results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - =
Ronald=20
<BR>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with this. I also think I =
should not have=20
to produce any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my =
own=20
personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle =
insurance=20
is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also =
liked=20
living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. =
If I go=20
down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I have a =
wreck=20
down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I =
know these=20
things for a fact. Pisses me off.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "You can go to live =
in France,=20
but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go <BR>> to live in =
Germany, you=20
cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or <BR>> whatever. =
But=20
anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live in <BR>> =
America and=20
become an American." - more Ronald Reagan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it's sooooo cool when people =
who are=20
liberal quote Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the =
Contra=20
Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner =
cities?=20
Ollie North one of your heroes? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "I do not agree =
that the dog=20
in a manger has the final right to the manger <BR>> even though he =
may have=20
lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that <BR>> right. I =
do not=20
admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the <BR>> =
Red=20
Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit =
that=20
<BR>> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a =
stronger=20
race, a <BR>> higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." =
-=20
Winston Churchill <BR>> (who apparently never said that thing about =
liberal/conservative heart/brain <BR>> </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2> )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers =
involved,=20
they could find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we =
could pass=20
a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would =
kick their=20
asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a =
casino.<BR> <BR>>=20
"Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I read in the newspapers they are =
going to have=20
30 minutes of intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 =
to 8.00=20
to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at=20
6:30".-Groucho Marx<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>>Patriotism is the last refuge =
of a=20
scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D+0>=93When we have lost everything, including hope, =
life becomes=20
a disgrace, and death a duty."-</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>W.C.=20
Fields</FONT></FONT><BR>> <BR>> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't =
eat me!=20
I have a wife and kids. Eat <BR>> them!" - Homer Simpson</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>> <BR>> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant =
protest=20
sign from Simpsons <BR>> episode</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.<BR><BR>> =
<BR>>=20
Courage,<BR>> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . =
)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If =
a man=20
should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the =
hand and=20
lead him to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>> <BR>> </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
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size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
</FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>> "Rich Lamanna" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>richard.lamanna@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>>=20
wrote in message <BR>> </FONT><A href=3D"news:464ce932@linux"><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>news:464ce932@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>...<BR>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you =
can all fan=20
the flames. Why <BR>>> the<BR>>> heck not welcome some =
more=20
illegals.<BR>>><BR>>> </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm"><FON=
T=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2>http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm</FON=
T></A><BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>>><BR>>> "Eternal vigilance is the =
price of=20
liberty." -- Wendell Phillips<BR>>><BR>>> "No man is =
entitled to=20
the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in <BR>>> =
its<BR>>>=20
preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur<BR>>><BR>>> =
"FREEDOM=20
IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside =
a<BR>>>=20
Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001<BR>>><BR>>> =
"In the=20
beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, =
and<BR>>>=20
hated<BR>>> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join =
him,=20
for then it <BR>>> costs<BR>>> nothing<BR>>> to be a =
patriot." -- Mark Twain<BR>>><BR>>> "History does not long =
entrust=20
the care of freedom to the weak or the<BR>>> timid."<BR>>> =
--=20
Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20,=20
1953<BR>>><BR>>> "The future doesn't belong to the=20
faint-hearted. It belongs to the <BR>>> =
brave."<BR>>> --=20
Ronald Reagan<BR>>><BR>>> "The battle, sir, is not to the =
strong=20
alone; it is to the vigilant, the<BR>>> active,<BR>>> the =
brave."=20
-- Patrick Henry<BR>>><BR>>> "The land of the free will =
cease to=20
be when it's no longer the home of<BR>>> the brave."-- Rick=20
Gaber<BR>>><BR>>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal =
doesn't=20
have a heart,<BR>>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative =
doesn't=20
have a brain." -- <BR>>> Winston =
Churchill<BR>>><BR>>>=20
Guidance,<BR>>> Rich<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> =
<BR>>=20
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Fri, 18 May 2007 09:57 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
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Paul, I beg to differ with you. Really you've got to be kidding, justifying
and rationalizing the actions that Sterno and the Clintonistas taken here.
This incident could have been averted. I agree Koresh was a whack job, but
Christian or otherwise, what were they guilty of, they weren't bothering
anyone and they were legally authorized to trade arms, though it appeared
that they weren't following protocol. To get back to the point, Koresh
hadn't threatened anyone, he may have been a danger to himself and the
others in the compound but unlike the huge network of Jihadists all over the
world today, Koresh was a lone nut job.
Rich
"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1rbr43djm2h7j63n2tvhtbbdedq08rj0b8@4ax.com...
> Rich -
>
> Considering the events that ensued, I think the Feds' suspicions were
> correct. Interesting that you put the entire blame on the Feds for the
> final result. I, for one, am glad that Koresh and his collection of
> whackjobs are closer to God now, though it is a shame that THEY choose
> to take many innocents with them.
>
> Calling the Davidians Christians is like calling GWB eloquent.
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:51:46 -0500, "Rich Lamanna"
> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Remember Waco. The ATF, under the administration of Clinton and Janet
> >Sterno, stormed the Branch Davidian home, in Rambo fashion, to serve a
> >search warrant issued on the suspicion that the group was stockpiling
> >automatic weapons, massacring almost 100 hundred men, women, and
children.
> >But I doubt that the FBI or ATF would ever raid these holy men, oh God
no,
> >despite the fact that they are irrefutably armed to the teeth and
practicing
> >for violent Jihad.
>
> (snip)
>
> >
> >What were Koresh and the Davidians guilty of? Maybe of being Christians.
>
> (snip)
>
> >
> >Rich
> >
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Deej [4]
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The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far left =
in this country slag the only administration that is willing to fight =
for their right to slag the administration. The leftleaning/outspoken =
first amendment loving folks will be the first to be slaughtered by =
those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the policies of this =
administration.
go figure.
;o}
"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
news:464dc9f4@linux...
Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It astounds =
me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for Islamic =
extremist violence and fascism while at the same time condemn those =
democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the right to defend =
themselves against such attacks.
Rich
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
news:464dc442@linux...
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
news:464da14d@linux...
> Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been =
treating=20
> terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always =
been=20
> instead of as a pretense for war,=20
.........now if they would just build an asprin factory there, we =
could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the people =
there are black so this would be PC.
flourishing nests of fanatical morons like=20
> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with =
you, but I=20
> hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last =
four years=20
> has done anything but fan the flames.
>=20
there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
> Some alternative quotations:
>=20
> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
war-cry, and=20
> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open =
his mouth;=20
> and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen =
will invent=20
> cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, =
and every=20
> man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will =
diligently=20
> study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and =
thus he will=20
> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank =
God for the=20
> better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
self-deception." -=20
> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort =
them as much as you please".
>=20
> "In the councils of government, we must guard against the =
acquisition of=20
> unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
> military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise =
of=20
> misplaced power exists and will persist.
Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in =
my life, some of which actually happened"
>=20
> We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
liberties or=20
> democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an =
alert and=20
> knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge =
industrial=20
> and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and =
goals, so=20
> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
Eisenhower,=20
> 1961
Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon an =
alert and knowldegable CIA"=20
> "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great =
numbers of=20
> our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are =
those=20
> illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One =
thing is=20
> certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be =
allowed if it=20
> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - =
Ronald=20
> Reagan
I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own personal =
health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle insurance is =
such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked =
living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. If =
I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I =
know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>=20
> "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; =
you can go=20
> to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a =
Greek, or=20
> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to =
live in=20
> America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan. =
Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra Show? How about the =
way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? Ollie North =
one of your heroes?=20
>=20
> "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to =
the manger=20
> even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not =
admit that=20
> right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been =
done to the=20
> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not =
admit that=20
> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger =
race, a=20
> higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston =
Churchill=20
> (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative =
heart/brain=20
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112 )
I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find a =
way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a law that =
handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick their asses out =
of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
=20
> "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
"I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of =
intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00 to =
educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
"When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a =
disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>=20
> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. =
Eat=20
> them!" - Homer Simpson
>=20
> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from =
Simpsons=20
> episode
"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>=20
> Courage,
> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I =
would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a =
quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
;o)
>=20
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
> news:464ce932@linux...
>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the =
flames. Why=20
>> the
>> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>
>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>
>> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>>
>> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be =
vigilant in=20
>> its
>> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>
>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement =
outside a
>> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>
>> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and =
brave, and
>> hated
>> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for =
then it=20
>> costs
>> nothing
>> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>
>> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or =
the
>> timid."
>> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>
>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
the=20
>> brave."
>> -- Ronald Reagan
>>
>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the =
vigilant, the
>> active,
>> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>
>> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the =
home of
>> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>
>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a =
brain." --=20
>> Winston Churchill
>>
>> Guidance,
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>=20
>=20
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is=20
willing to fight for their right to slag the administration. The=20
leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first to =
be=20
slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the =
policies=20
of this administration.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>go figure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o}</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rich Lamanna" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net">richard.lamanna@verizon.net</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:464dc9f4@linux">news:464dc9f4@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well =
written. It=20
astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for =
Islamic=20
extremist violence and fascism while at the same time=20
condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, who =
reserve=20
the right to defend themselves against such attacks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A =
href=3D"news:464dc442@linux">news:464dc442@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sarah" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>> wrote=20
in message </FONT><A href=3D"news:464da14d@linux"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>news:464da14d@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Surely this doesn't surprise =
you . . .=20
? Perhaps if we'd been treating <BR>> terrorism as the=20
international criminal problem that it's always been <BR>> =
instead of as=20
a pretense for war, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.........now if they would just =
build an asprin=20
factory there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like =
most of=20
the people there are black so this would be PC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical =
morons like=20
<BR>> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, =
I'm=20
with you, but I <BR>> hope you don't think what we've been doing =
in Iraq=20
for the last four years <BR>> has done anything but fan the=20
flames.<BR>> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are lots of flourishing nests =
of=20
fanatical morons Sarah.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D" http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp"><=
FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp</=
FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Some alternative =
quotations:<BR>>=20
<BR>> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up =
the=20
war-cry, and <BR>> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man =
who=20
ventures to open his mouth; <BR>> and presently such mouths will =
cease to=20
open. Next the statesmen will invent <BR>> cheap lies, putting =
the blame=20
upon the nation that is attacked, and every <BR>> man will be =
glad of=20
those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently <BR>> =
study=20
them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he =
will=20
<BR>> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will =
thank God=20
for the <BR>> better sleep he enjoys after this process of =
grotesque=20
self-deception." - <BR>> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious=20
Stranger</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "Get your =
facts first, and=20
then you can distort them as much as you please".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "In the councils =
of=20
government, we must guard against the acquisition of <BR>> =
unwarranted=20
influence, whether sought or unsought, by the <BR>> =
military-industrial=20
complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of <BR>> misplaced =
power=20
exists and will persist.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "I have been =
throught some=20
terrible things in my life, some of which actually =
happened"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never let =
the weight=20
of this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> democratic =
processes.=20
We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and <BR>> =
knowledgeable=20
citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial =
<BR>> and=20
military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, =
so=20
<BR>> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight =
D.=20
Eisenhower, <BR>> 1961</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej also said "An alert and =
knowledgable=20
citizenry depends upon an alert and knowldegable CIA" </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> "...it makes one wonder =
about the=20
illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of <BR>> our unemployed =
really=20
victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those <BR>> illegal =
tourists=20
actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is <BR>> =
certain=20
in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it =
<BR>>=20
results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - =
Ronald=20
<BR>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with this. I also think I =
should not=20
have to produce any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should =
be my=20
own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying =
vehicle=20
insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat =
either. I=20
also liked living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got =
there and=20
live. If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in =
jail. If=20
I have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in =
jail. I=20
know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "You can go to =
live in=20
France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go <BR>> to =
live in=20
Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or =
<BR>>=20
whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live =
in=20
<BR>> America and become an American." - more Ronald =
Reagan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it's sooooo cool when =
people who are=20
liberal quote Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the =
Contra=20
Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the =
inner=20
cities? Ollie North one of your heroes? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "I do not agree =
that the dog=20
in a manger has the final right to the manger <BR>> even though =
he may=20
have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that <BR>> =
right. I=20
do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the =
<BR>>=20
Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not =
admit that=20
<BR>> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a =
stronger=20
race, a <BR>> higher-grade race has come in and taken their =
place." -=20
Winston Churchill <BR>> (who apparently never said that thing =
about=20
liberal/conservative heart/brain <BR>> </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2> )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll bet if we just got a few =
lawyers involved,=20
they could find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we =
could=20
pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they =
would=20
kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a=20
casino.<BR> <BR>> "Religion poisons everything." - =
Christopher=20
Hitchens</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I read in the newspapers they are =
going to=20
have 30 minutes of intellectual stuff on television every Monday =
from 7.30=20
to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they =
started at=20
6:30".-Groucho Marx<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>>Patriotism is the last =
refuge of a=20
scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D+0>=93When we have lost everything, including =
hope, life=20
becomes a disgrace, and death a duty."-</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>W.C. =
Fields</FONT></FONT><BR>> <BR>> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! =
Don't eat=20
me! I have a wife and kids. Eat <BR>> them!" - Homer =
Simpson</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>> <BR>> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant =
protest=20
sign from Simpsons <BR>> episode</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.<BR><BR>> =
<BR>> Courage,<BR>> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . .=20
)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. =
If a man=20
should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the =
hand and=20
lead him to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>> <BR>> </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
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size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
</FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>> "Rich Lamanna" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>richard.lamanna@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>>=20
wrote in message <BR>> </FONT><A =
href=3D"news:464ce932@linux"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>news:464ce932@linux</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...<BR>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you =
can all=20
fan the flames. Why <BR>>> the<BR>>> heck not welcome =
some more=20
illegals.<BR>>><BR>>> </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm"><FON=
T=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2>http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm</FON=
T></A><BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>>><BR>>> "Eternal vigilance is the =
price of=20
liberty." -- Wendell Phillips<BR>>><BR>>> "No man is =
entitled to=20
the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in <BR>>>=20
its<BR>>> preservation." -- General Douglas=20
MacArthur<BR>>><BR>>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- =
posted=20
as an announcement outside a<BR>>> Unitarian Church in Texas =
on Sept.=20
17, 2001<BR>>><BR>>> "In the beginning of a change the =
patriot=20
is a scarce man, and brave, and<BR>>> hated<BR>>> and =
scorned.=20
When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it =
<BR>>>=20
costs<BR>>> nothing<BR>>> to be a patriot." -- Mark=20
Twain<BR>>><BR>>> "History does not long entrust the =
care of=20
freedom to the weak or the<BR>>> timid."<BR>>> -- Dwight =
D.=20
Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, =
1953<BR>>><BR>>>=20
"The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
the=20
<BR>>> brave."<BR>>> -- Ronald =
Reagan<BR>>><BR>>>=20
"The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, =
the<BR>>> active,<BR>>> the brave." -- Patrick=20
Henry<BR>>><BR>>> "The land of the free will cease to be =
when=20
it's no longer the home of<BR>>> the brave."-- Rick=20
Gaber<BR>>><BR>>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal =
doesn't=20
have a heart,<BR>>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a =
conservative=20
doesn't have a brain." -- <BR>>> Winston=20
Churchill<BR>>><BR>>> Guidance,<BR>>>=20
Rich<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>=20
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| Re: OT: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84773 is a reply to message #84765] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 09:59 |
Paul Artola
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If he was so innocent, why did he feel compelled to shoot at the Feds
when they came to arrest him and kill 4 of them. Paranoia? That logic
would turn Paris Hilton into Bonnie Parker!
Should we assume everyone massing a stockpile of weapons is only a
danger to himself and not potentially to society?
- Paul
On Fri, 18 May 2007 11:57:29 -0500, "Rich Lamanna"
<richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>Paul, I beg to differ with you. Really you've got to be kidding, justifying
>and rationalizing the actions that Sterno and the Clintonistas taken here.
>This incident could have been averted. I agree Koresh was a whack job, but
>Christian or otherwise, what were they guilty of, they weren't bothering
>anyone and they were legally authorized to trade arms, though it appeared
>that they weren't following protocol. To get back to the point, Koresh
>hadn't threatened anyone, he may have been a danger to himself and the
>others in the compound but unlike the huge network of Jihadists all over the
>world today, Koresh was a lone nut job.
>
>Rich
>
>
>"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:1rbr43djm2h7j63n2tvhtbbdedq08rj0b8@4ax.com...
>> Rich -
>>
>> Considering the events that ensued, I think the Feds' suspicions were
>> correct. Interesting that you put the entire blame on the Feds for the
>> final result. I, for one, am glad that Koresh and his collection of
>> whackjobs are closer to God now, though it is a shame that THEY choose
>> to take many innocents with them.
>>
>> Calling the Davidians Christians is like calling GWB eloquent.
>>
>> - Paul Artola
>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>
>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:51:46 -0500, "Rich Lamanna"
>> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Remember Waco. The ATF, under the administration of Clinton and Janet
>> >Sterno, stormed the Branch Davidian home, in Rambo fashion, to serve a
>> >search warrant issued on the suspicion that the group was stockpiling
>> >automatic weapons, massacring almost 100 hundred men, women, and
>children.
>> >But I doubt that the FBI or ATF would ever raid these holy men, oh God
>no,
>> >despite the fact that they are irrefutably armed to the teeth and
>practicing
>> >for violent Jihad.
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>> >
>> >What were Koresh and the Davidians guilty of? Maybe of being Christians.
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>> >
>> >Rich
>> >
>>
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| Re: OT: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84774 is a reply to message #84773] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 10:15 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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The feds shot their dog and her pups when they walked up to the door to
serve the warrant. If that happened here, there would be a bunch of
deadfeds....no shit amigo.
"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bmmr43paj5r0d5b6kgbqtd25mmhstnsh2m@4ax.com...
> If he was so innocent, why did he feel compelled to shoot at the Feds
> when they came to arrest him and kill 4 of them. Paranoia? That logic
> would turn Paris Hilton into Bonnie Parker!
>
> Should we assume everyone massing a stockpile of weapons is only a
> danger to himself and not potentially to society?
>
> - Paul
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 11:57:29 -0500, "Rich Lamanna"
> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Paul, I beg to differ with you. Really you've got to be kidding,
>>justifying
>>and rationalizing the actions that Sterno and the Clintonistas taken here.
>>This incident could have been averted. I agree Koresh was a whack job, but
>>Christian or otherwise, what were they guilty of, they weren't bothering
>>anyone and they were legally authorized to trade arms, though it appeared
>>that they weren't following protocol. To get back to the point, Koresh
>>hadn't threatened anyone, he may have been a danger to himself and the
>>others in the compound but unlike the huge network of Jihadists all over
>>the
>>world today, Koresh was a lone nut job.
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>
>>"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:1rbr43djm2h7j63n2tvhtbbdedq08rj0b8@4ax.com...
>>> Rich -
>>>
>>> Considering the events that ensued, I think the Feds' suspicions were
>>> correct. Interesting that you put the entire blame on the Feds for the
>>> final result. I, for one, am glad that Koresh and his collection of
>>> whackjobs are closer to God now, though it is a shame that THEY choose
>>> to take many innocents with them.
>>>
>>> Calling the Davidians Christians is like calling GWB eloquent.
>>>
>>> - Paul Artola
>>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>>
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:51:46 -0500, "Rich Lamanna"
>>> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Remember Waco. The ATF, under the administration of Clinton and Janet
>>> >Sterno, stormed the Branch Davidian home, in Rambo fashion, to serve a
>>> >search warrant issued on the suspicion that the group was stockpiling
>>> >automatic weapons, massacring almost 100 hundred men, women, and
>>children.
>>> >But I doubt that the FBI or ATF would ever raid these holy men, oh God
>>no,
>>> >despite the fact that they are irrefutably armed to the teeth and
>>practicing
>>> >for violent Jihad.
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>> >
>>> >What were Koresh and the Davidians guilty of? Maybe of being
>>> >Christians.
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>> >
>>> >Rich
>>> >
>>>
>>
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| Re: OT: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84777 is a reply to message #84773] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 10:36 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Hey Paul,
Here's a little something to think about.
http://www.serendipity.li/waco/moore1.html
One of my good friends went to high school with Vernon Howell (a/k/a David
Koresh). My friend was a great guitar player, and Vernon was always hanging
out with him trying to cop some licks. They weren't really good friends or
anything but fairly well acquainted and my friend said that he wasn't some
demonic wanker or anything like that.
there's lots of wacko's in Waco.......it's home to Baylor University and
Jessica/Ashley Simpson fer chrissake!!! Some of my family members attended
Baylor and they are now liberal Democrat lawyers so I can attest to the
wacko factor.
Now if a bunch of guys came up to your door in black stormtrooper uniforms
and the first thing they did was shoot your dog, and the second thing they
did was shoot you and a member of your family........would you be disposed
to just let them in?
Not me dude.
Regards,
Deej
"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bmmr43paj5r0d5b6kgbqtd25mmhstnsh2m@4ax.com...
> If he was so innocent, why did he feel compelled to shoot at the Feds
> when they came to arrest him and kill 4 of them. Paranoia? That logic
> would turn Paris Hilton into Bonnie Parker!
>
> Should we assume everyone massing a stockpile of weapons is only a
> danger to himself and not potentially to society?
>
> - Paul
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 11:57:29 -0500, "Rich Lamanna"
> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Paul, I beg to differ with you. Really you've got to be kidding,
>>justifying
>>and rationalizing the actions that Sterno and the Clintonistas taken here.
>>This incident could have been averted. I agree Koresh was a whack job, but
>>Christian or otherwise, what were they guilty of, they weren't bothering
>>anyone and they were legally authorized to trade arms, though it appeared
>>that they weren't following protocol. To get back to the point, Koresh
>>hadn't threatened anyone, he may have been a danger to himself and the
>>others in the compound but unlike the huge network of Jihadists all over
>>the
>>world today, Koresh was a lone nut job.
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>
>>"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:1rbr43djm2h7j63n2tvhtbbdedq08rj0b8@4ax.com...
>>> Rich -
>>>
>>> Considering the events that ensued, I think the Feds' suspicions were
>>> correct. Interesting that you put the entire blame on the Feds for the
>>> final result. I, for one, am glad that Koresh and his collection of
>>> whackjobs are closer to God now, though it is a shame that THEY choose
>>> to take many innocents with them.
>>>
>>> Calling the Davidians Christians is like calling GWB eloquent.
>>>
>>> - Paul Artola
>>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>>
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:51:46 -0500, "Rich Lamanna"
>>> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Remember Waco. The ATF, under the administration of Clinton and Janet
>>> >Sterno, stormed the Branch Davidian home, in Rambo fashion, to serve a
>>> >search warrant issued on the suspicion that the group was stockpiling
>>> >automatic weapons, massacring almost 100 hundred men, women, and
>>children.
>>> >But I doubt that the FBI or ATF would ever raid these holy men, oh God
>>no,
>>> >despite the fact that they are irrefutably armed to the teeth and
>>practicing
>>> >for violent Jihad.
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>> >
>>> >What were Koresh and the Davidians guilty of? Maybe of being
>>> >Christians.
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>> >
>>> >Rich
>>> >
>>>
>>
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84778 is a reply to message #84772] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 10:43 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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Yup, those wing nuts on the left. Like Ron Paul. Did you see him in the pres.
debate? Freaking commie.
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>
>The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far left
=
>in this country slag the only administration that is willing to fight =
>for their right to slag the administration. The leftleaning/outspoken =
>first amendment loving folks will be the first to be slaughtered by =
>those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the policies of this
=
>administration.
>
>go figure.
>
>;o}
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
>news:464dc9f4@linux...
> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It astounds
=
>me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for Islamic =
>extremist violence and fascism while at the same time condemn those =
>democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the right to defend =
>themselves against such attacks.
>
> Rich
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
>news:464dc442@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
>news:464da14d@linux...
> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been =
>treating=20
> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always =
>been=20
> > instead of as a pretense for war,=20
>
> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory there, we =
>could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the people =
>there are black so this would be PC.
>
> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like=20
> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with =
>you, but I=20
> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last =
>four years=20
> > has done anything but fan the flames.
> >=20
> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>
>
> > Some alternative quotations:
> >=20
> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
>war-cry, and=20
> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open =
>his mouth;=20
> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen =
>will invent=20
> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, =
>and every=20
> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will
=
>diligently=20
> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and =
>thus he will=20
> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank =
>God for the=20
> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
>self-deception." -=20
> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>
> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort
=
>them as much as you please".
>
> >=20
> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against the =
>acquisition of=20
> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise
=
>of=20
> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>
> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in =
>my life, some of which actually happened"
>
> >=20
> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
>liberties or=20
> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an
=
>alert and=20
> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge
=
>industrial=20
> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and =
>goals, so=20
> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
>Eisenhower,=20
> > 1961
>
> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon an
=
>alert and knowldegable CIA"=20
>
> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great =
>numbers of=20
> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are
=
>those=20
> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One
=
>thing is=20
> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be =
>allowed if it=20
> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." -
=
>Ronald=20
> > Reagan
>
> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
>identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own personal =
>health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle insurance is
=
>such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked
=
>living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. If
=
>I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
>have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I
=
>know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>
> >=20
> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman;
=
>you can go=20
> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a =
>Greek, or=20
> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to =
>live in=20
> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>
> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan. =
>Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra Show? How about the
=
>way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? Ollie North =
>one of your heroes?=20
>
> >=20
> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to =
>the manger=20
> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not
=
>admit that=20
> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been =
>done to the=20
> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not
=
>admit that=20
> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger
=
>race, a=20
> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston =
>Churchill=20
> > (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative =
>heart/brain=20
> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112 )
>
> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find a =
>way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a law that =
>handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick their asses out
=
>of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
> =20
> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>
> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of =
>intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00 to =
>educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
>6:30".-Groucho Marx
>
> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
>
> "When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a =
>disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
> >=20
> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. =
>Eat=20
> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>
>
> >=20
> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from =
>Simpsons=20
> > episode
>
> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>
> >=20
> > Courage,
> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>
> "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I =
>would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a =
>quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
>
> >=20
> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
> > news:464ce932@linux...
> >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the =
>flames. Why=20
> >> the
> >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
> >>
> >> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
> >>
> >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
> >>
> >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be =
>vigilant in=20
> >> its
> >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
> >>
> >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement =
>outside a
> >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
> >>
> >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and =
>brave, and
> >> hated
> >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for =
>then it=20
> >> costs
> >> nothing
> >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
> >>
> >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or
=
>the
> >> timid."
> >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
> >>
> >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
>the=20
> >> brave."
> >> -- Ronald Reagan
> >>
> >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the =
>vigilant, the
> >> active,
> >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
> >>
> >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the =
>home of
> >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
> >>
> >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
> >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a =
>brain." --=20
> >> Winston Churchill
> >>
> >> Guidance,
> >> Rich
> >>
> >>
> >>=20
> >=20
> >
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The thing that has always intrigued me
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>is how the=20
>folks on the far left in this country slag the only administration that
=
>is=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>go figure.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o}</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV>"Rich Lamanna" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net">richard.lamanna@verizon.net</=
>A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
>href=3D"news:464dc9f4@linux">news:464dc9f4@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well =
>written. It=20
> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for
=
>Islamic=20
> extremist violence and fascism while at the same time=20
> condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, who =
>reserve=20
> the right to defend themselves against such attacks.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT><BR></DIV>
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> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
>wrote=20
> in message <A =
>href=3D"news:464dc442@linux">news:464dc442@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sarah" <</FONT><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D2>> wrote=20
> in message </FONT><A href=3D"news:464da14d@linux"><FONT face=3DArial
=
>
> size=3D2>news:464da14d@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Surely this doesn't surprise =
>you . . .=20
> ? Perhaps if we'd been treating <BR>> terrorism as the=20
> international criminal problem that it's always been <BR>> =
>instead of as=20
> a pretense for war, </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.........now if they would just =
>build an asprin=20
> factory there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like =
>most of=20
> the people there are black so this would be PC.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical =
>morons like=20
> <BR>> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, =
>I'm=20
> with you, but I <BR>> hope you don't think what we've been doing =
>in Iraq=20
> for the last four years <BR>> has done anything but fan the=20
> flames.<BR>> </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are lots of flourishing nests
=
>of=20
> fanatical morons Sarah.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><A=20
> =
>href=3D" http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp"><=
>FONT=20
> face=3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D2> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp</=
>FONT></A></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Some alternative =
>quotations:<BR>>=20
> <BR>> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up =
>the=20
> war-cry, and <BR>> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man =
>who=20
> ventures to open his mouth; <BR>> and presently such mouths will =
>cease to=20
> open. Next the statesmen will invent <BR>> cheap lies, putting =
>the blame=20
> upon the nation that is attacked, and every <BR>> man will be =
>glad of=20
> those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently <BR>> =
>study=20
> them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he =
>will=20
> <BR>> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will =
>thank God=20
> for the <BR>> better sleep he enjoys after this process of =
>grotesque=20
> self-deception." - <BR>> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious=20
> Stranger</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "Get your =
>facts first, and=20
> then you can distort them as much as you please".</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "In the councils =
>of=20
> government, we must guard against the acquisition of <BR>> =
>unwarranted=20
> influence, whether sought or unsought, by the <BR>> =
>military-industrial=20
> complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of <BR>> misplaced =
>power=20
> exists and will persist.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "I have been =
>throught some=20
> terrible things in my life, some of which actually =
>happened"</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never let =
>the weight=20
> of this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> democratic =
>processes.=20
> We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and <BR>> =
>knowledgeable=20
> citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial =
><BR>> and=20
> military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, =
>so=20
> <BR>> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight =
>D.=20
> Eisenhower, <BR>> 1961</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej also said "An alert and =
>knowledgable=20
> citizenry depends upon an alert and knowldegable CIA" </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> "...it makes one wonder =
>about the=20
> illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of <BR>> our unemployed =
>really=20
> victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those <BR>> illegal =
>tourists=20
> actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is <BR>> =
>certain=20
> in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it =
><BR>>=20
> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - =
>Ronald=20
> <BR>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with this. I also think I =
>should not=20
> have to produce any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should
=
>be my=20
> own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying =
>vehicle=20
> insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat =
>either. I=20
> also liked living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got =
>there and=20
> live. If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in =
>jail. If=20
> I have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in =
>jail. I=20
> know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "You can go to =
>live in=20
> France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go <BR>> to =
>live in=20
> Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or =
><BR>>=20
> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live
=
>in=20
> <BR>> America and become an American." - more Ronald =
>Reagan</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it's sooooo cool when =
>people who are=20
> liberal quote Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the
=
>Contra=20
> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the =
>inner=20
> cities? Ollie North one of your heroes? </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "I do not agree =
>that the dog=20
> in a manger has the final right to the manger <BR>> even though =
>he may=20
> have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that <BR>> =
>right. I=20
> do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the =
><BR>>=20
> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not =
>admit that=20
> <BR>> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a =
>stronger=20
> race, a <BR>> higher-grade race has come in and taken their =
>place." -=20
> Winston Churchill <BR>> (who apparently never said that thing =
>about=20
> liberal/conservative heart/brain <BR>> </FONT><A=20
> =
>href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
>><FONT=20
> face=3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
></FONT></A><FONT=20
> face=3DArial size=3D2> )</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll bet if we just got a few =
>lawyers involved,=20
> they could find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we =
>could=20
> pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they =
>would=20
> kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a=20
> casino.<BR> <BR>> "Religion poisons everything." - =
>Christopher=20
> Hitchens</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I read in the newspapers they are
=
>going to=20
> have 30 minutes of intellectual stuff on television every Monday =
>from 7.30=20
> to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they =
>started at=20
> 6:30".-Groucho Marx<BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>>Patriotism is the last =
>refuge of a=20
> scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D+0>=93When we have lost everything, including =
>hope, life=20
> becomes a disgrace, and death a duty."-</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D2><FONT=20
> face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>W.C.
=
>
> Fields</FONT></FONT><BR>> <BR>> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! =
>Don't eat=20
> me! I have a wife and kids. Eat <BR>> them!" - Homer =
>Simpson</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant =
>protest=20
> sign from Simpsons <BR>> episode</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.<BR><BR>> =
>
> <BR>> Courage,<BR>> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . .=20
> )</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I thoroughly disapprove of duels.
=
>If a man=20
> should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the
=
>hand and=20
> lead him to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> </FONT><A=20
> =
>href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
>><FONT=20
> face=3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
></FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
> face=3DArial size=3D2>> "Rich Lamanna" <</FONT><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>richard.lamanna@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D2>>=20
> wrote in message <BR>> </FONT><A =
>href=3D"news:464ce932@linux"><FONT=20
> face=3DArial size=3D2>news:464ce932@linux</FONT></A><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>...<BR>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you =
>can all=20
> fan the flames. Why <BR>>> the<BR>>> heck not welcome =
>some more=20
> illegals.<BR>>><BR>>> </FONT><A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm"><FON=
>T=20
> face=3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D2>http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm</FON=
>T></A><BR><FONT=20
> face=3DArial size=3D2>>><BR>>> "Eternal vigilance is the =
>price of=20
> liberty." -- Wendell Phillips<BR>>><BR>>> "No man is =
>entitled to=20
> the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in <BR>>>=20
> its<BR>>> preservation." -- General Douglas=20
> MacArthur<BR>>><BR>>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- =
>posted=20
> as an announcement outside a<BR>>> Unitarian Church in Texas =
>on Sept.=20
> 17, 2001<BR>>><BR>>> "In the beginning of a change the =
>patriot=20
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84779 is a reply to message #84772] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 10:42 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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LOL.
If we could just get rid of those leftinistas, those lefty left
lefterizers. Those constitution loving left-hosers. Man, they are so
LEFT!!!!
There, that solves it. :^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far left
> in this country slag the only administration that is willing to fight
> for their right to slag the administration. The leftleaning/outspoken
> first amendment loving folks will be the first to be slaughtered by
> those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the policies of this
> administration.
>
> go figure.
>
> ;o}
>
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
> news:464dc9f4@linux...
> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It
> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses
> for Islamic extremist violence and fascism while at the same time
> condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the
> right to defend themselves against such attacks.
>
> Rich
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
> wrote in message news:464dc442@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com
> <mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>> wrote in message
> news:464da14d@linux...
> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd
> been treating
> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's
> always been
> > instead of as a pretense for war,
>
> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory there,
> we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the
> people there are black so this would be PC.
>
> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like
> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm
> with you, but I
> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the
> last four years
> > has done anything but fan the flames.
> >
> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>
>
> > Some alternative quotations:
> >
> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the
> war-cry, and
> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to
> open his mouth;
> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the
> statesmen will invent
> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is
> attacked, and every
> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and
> will diligently
> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them;
> and thus he will
> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will
> thank God for the
> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque
> self-deception." -
> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>
> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can
> distort them as much as you please".
>
> >
> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against the
> acquisition of
> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the
> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous
> rise of
> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>
> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things
> in my life, some of which actually happened"
>
> >
> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our
> liberties or
> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted.
> Only an alert and
> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the
> huge industrial
> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods
> and goals, so
> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D.
> Eisenhower,
> > 1961
>
> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon
> an alert and knowldegable CIA"
>
> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are
> great numbers of
> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion
> or are those
> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do?
> One thing is
> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be
> allowed if it
> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of
> harvesters." - Ronald
> > Reagan
>
> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any
> identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own
> personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying
> vehicle insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to
> do hqat either. I also liked living in Mexico quite a bit.
> Problem is, I can't got there and live. If I go down there
> without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I have a
> wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail.
> I know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>
> >
> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a
> Frenchman; you can go
> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or
> a Greek, or
> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come
> to live in
> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>
> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote
> Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra
> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the
> inner cities? Ollie North one of your heroes?
>
> >
> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right
> to the manger
> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do
> not admit that
> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has
> been done to the
> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do
> not admit that
> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a
> stronger race, a
> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." -
> Winston Churchill
> > (who apparently never said that thing about
> liberal/conservative heart/brain
> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12 )
>
> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find
> a way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a
> law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would
> kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
>
> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>
> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of
> intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00
> to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they
> started at 6:30".-Groucho Marx
> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
>
> “When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a
> disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
> >
> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and
> kids. Eat
> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>
>
> >
> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign
> from Simpsons
> > episode
>
> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>
> >
> > Courage,
> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>
> "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me,
> I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him
> to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
>
> >
> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12
> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
> > news:464ce932@linux...
> >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the
> flames. Why
> >> the
> >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
> >>
> >> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
> >>
> >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
> >>
> >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be
> vigilant in
> >> its
> >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
> >>
> >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement
> outside a
> >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
> >>
> >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man,
> and brave, and
> >> hated
> >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him,
> for then it
> >> costs
> >> nothing
> >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
> >>
> >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the
> weak or the
> >> timid."
> >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
> >>
> >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs
> to the
> >> brave."
> >> -- Ronald Reagan
> >>
> >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the
> vigilant, the
> >> active,
> >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
> >>
> >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer
> the home of
> >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
> >>
> >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
> >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a
> brain." --
> >> Winston Churchill
> >>
> >> Guidance,
> >> Rich
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84780 is a reply to message #84778] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 10:51 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Senior Member |
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hehe!............yeah. The Pauls are definitely a bunch of populist commies.
Goddam' popolist golf commies, at that. Here's their modest little
unassuming storefront in Austin.
http://www.golfsmith.com/
I took acting lessons with his niece Kelly back in the early 90's. A dead
ringer for Chynna Phillips. Uncle Ron was considered to be qhite the family
hoot. If only Ron's side of the family had those looks, he would at least
have photogeniety going for him.....and he voted for legalizing marijuana
before he became a Republican. I do think he's right about our foriegn
policy pissin people off though...........but those pissed off foriegners'
foriegn policy pisses me off too.
;o)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:464de5db$1@linux...
>
> Yup, those wing nuts on the left. Like Ron Paul. Did you see him in the
> pres.
> debate? Freaking commie.
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far left
> =
>>in this country slag the only administration that is willing to fight =
>>for their right to slag the administration. The leftleaning/outspoken =
>>first amendment loving folks will be the first to be slaughtered by =
>>those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the policies of this
> =
>>administration.
>>
>>go figure.
>>
>>;o}
>> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
>>news:464dc9f4@linux...
>> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It astounds
> =
>>me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for Islamic =
>>extremist violence and fascism while at the same time condemn those =
>>democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the right to defend =
>>themselves against such attacks.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
>>news:464dc442@linux...
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
>>news:464da14d@linux...
>> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been =
>>treating=20
>> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always =
>>been=20
>> > instead of as a pretense for war,=20
>>
>> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory there, we =
>>could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the people =
>>there are black so this would be PC.
>>
>> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like=20
>> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with =
>>you, but I=20
>> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last =
>>four years=20
>> > has done anything but fan the flames.
>> >=20
>> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
>> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>>
>>
>> > Some alternative quotations:
>> >=20
>> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
>>war-cry, and=20
>> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open =
>>his mouth;=20
>> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen =
>>will invent=20
>> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, =
>>and every=20
>> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will
> =
>>diligently=20
>> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and =
>>thus he will=20
>> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank =
>>God for the=20
>> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
>>self-deception." -=20
>> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>>
>> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort
> =
>>them as much as you please".
>>
>> >=20
>> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against the =
>>acquisition of=20
>> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
>> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise
> =
>>of=20
>> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>>
>> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in =
>>my life, some of which actually happened"
>>
>> >=20
>> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
>>liberties or=20
>> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an
> =
>>alert and=20
>> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge
> =
>>industrial=20
>> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and =
>>goals, so=20
>> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
>>Eisenhower,=20
>> > 1961
>>
>> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon an
> =
>>alert and knowldegable CIA"=20
>>
>> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great =
>>numbers of=20
>> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are
> =
>>those=20
>> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One
> =
>>thing is=20
>> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be =
>>allowed if it=20
>> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." -
> =
>>Ronald=20
>> > Reagan
>>
>> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
>>identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own personal =
>>health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle insurance is
> =
>>such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked
> =
>>living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. If
> =
>>I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
>>have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I
> =
>>know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>>
>> >=20
>> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman;
> =
>>you can go=20
>> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a =
>>Greek, or=20
>> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to =
>>live in=20
>> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>>
>> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan. =
>>Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra Show? How about the
> =
>>way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? Ollie North =
>>one of your heroes?=20
>>
>> >=20
>> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to =
>>the manger=20
>> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not
> =
>>admit that=20
>> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been =
>>done to the=20
>> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not
> =
>>admit that=20
>> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger
> =
>>race, a=20
>> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston =
>>Churchill=20
>> > (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative =
>>heart/brain=20
>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112 )
>>
>> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find a =
>>way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a law that =
>>handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick their asses out
> =
>>of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
>> =20
>> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>>
>> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of =
>>intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00 to =
>>educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
>>6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>
>> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
>>
>> "When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a =
>>disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>> >=20
>> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. =
>>Eat=20
>> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>>
>>
>> >=20
>> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from =
>>Simpsons=20
>> > episode
>>
>> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>>
>> >=20
>> > Courage,
>> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>>
>> "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I =
>>would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a =
>>quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >=20
>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
>> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
>> > news:464ce932@linux...
>> >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the =
>>flames. Why=20
>> >> the
>> >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>> >>
>> >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>> >>
>> >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be =
>>vigilant in=20
>> >> its
>> >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>> >>
>> >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement =
>>outside a
>> >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>> >>
>> >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and =
>>brave, and
>> >> hated
>> >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for =
>>then it=20
>> >> costs
>> >> nothing
>> >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>> >>
>> >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or
> =
>>the
>> >> timid."
>> >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>> >>
>> >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
>>the=20
>> >> brave."
>> >> -- Ronald Reagan
>> >>
>> >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the =
>>vigilant, the
>> >> active,
>> >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>> >>
>> >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the =
>>home of
>> >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>> >>
>> >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>> >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a =
>>brain." --=20
>> >> Winston Churchill
>> >>
>> >> Guidance,
>> >> Rich
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>=20
>> >=20
>> >
>>
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The thing that has always intrigued me
> =
>>is how the=20
>>folks on the far left in this country slag the only administration that
> =
>>is=20
>>willing to fight for their right to slag the administration. The=20
>>leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first to
> =
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>>policies=20
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>go figure.</FONT></DIV>
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o}</FONT></DIV>
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>> <DIV>"Rich Lamanna" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net">richard.lamanna@verizon.net</=
>>A>>=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>>href=3D"news:464dc9f4@linux">news:464dc9f4@linux</A>...</DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well =
>>written. It=20
>> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for
> =
>>Islamic=20
>> extremist violence and fascism while at the same time=20
>> condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, who =
>>reserve=20
>> the right to defend themselves against such attacks.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT><BR></DIV>
>> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
>>wrote=20
>> in message <A =
>>href=3D"news:464dc442@linux">news:464dc442@linux</A>...</DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sarah" <</FONT><A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> size=3D2>sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
>>size=3D2>> wrote=20
>> in message </FONT><A href=3D"news:464da14d@linux"><FONT face=3DArial
> =
>>
>> size=3D2>news:464da14d@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Surely this doesn't surprise =
>>you . . .=20
>> ? Perhaps if we'd been treating <BR>> terrorism as the=20
>> international criminal problem that it's always been <BR>> =
>>instead of as=20
>> a pretense for war, </FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.........now if they would just =
>>build an asprin=20
>> factory there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like =
>>most of=20
>> the people there are black so this would be PC.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical =
>>morons like=20
>> <BR>> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, =
>>I'm=20
>> with you, but I <BR>> hope you don't think what we've been doing =
>>in Iraq=20
>> for the last four years <BR>> has done anything but fan the=20
>> flames.<BR>> </FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are lots of flourishing nests
> =
>>of=20
>> fanatical morons Sarah.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><A=20
>> =
>>href=3D" http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp"><=
>>FONT=20
>> face=3DArial=20
>> =
>>size=3D2> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp</=
>>FONT></A></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Some alternative =
>>quotations:<BR>>=20
>> <BR>> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up =
>>the=20
>> war-cry, and <BR>> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man =
>>who=20
>> ventures to open his mouth; <BR>> and presently such mouths will =
>>cease to=20
>> open. Next the statesmen will invent <BR>> cheap lies, putting =
>>the blame=20
>> upon the nation that is attacked, and every <BR>> man will be =
>>glad of=20
>> those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently <BR>> =
>>study=20
>> them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he =
>>will=20
>> <BR>> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will =
>>thank God=20
>> for the <BR>> better sleep he enjoys after this process of =
>>grotesque=20
>> self-deception." - <BR>> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious=20
>> Stranger</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "Get your =
>>facts first, and=20
>> then you can distort them as much as you please".</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "In the councils =
>>of=20
>> government, we must guard against the acquisition of <BR>> =
>>unwarranted=20
>> influence, whether sought or unsought, by the <BR>> =
>>military-industrial=20
>> complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of <BR>> misplaced =
>>power=20
>> exists and will persist.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "I have been =
>>throught some=20
>> terrible things in my life, some of which actually =
>>happened"</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never let =
>>the weight=20
>> of this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> democratic =
>>processes.=20
>> We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and <BR>> =
>>knowledgeable=20
>> citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial =
>><BR>> and=20
>> military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, =
>>so=20
>> <BR>> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight =
>>D.=20
>> Eisenhower, <BR>> 1961</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej also said "An alert and =
>>knowledgable=20
>> citizenry depends upon an alert and knowldegable CIA" </FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> "...it makes one wonder =
>>about the=20
>> illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of <BR>> our unemployed =
>>really=20
>> victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those <BR>> illegal =
>>tourists=20
>> actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is <BR>> =
>>certain=20
>> in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it =
>><BR>>=20
>> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - =
>>Ronald=20
>> <BR>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with this. I also think I =
>>should not=20
>> have to produce any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should
> =
>>be my=20
>> own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying =
>>vehicle=20
>> insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat =
>>either. I=20
>> also liked living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got =
>>there and=20
>> live. If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in =
>>jail. If=20
>> I have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in =
>>jail. I=20
>> know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "You can go to =
>>live in=20
>> France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go <BR>> to =
>>live in=20
>> Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or =
>><BR>>=20
>> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live
> =
>>in=20
>> <BR>> America and become an American." - more Ronald =
>>Reagan</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it's sooooo cool when =
>>people who are=20
>> liberal quote Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the
> =
>>Contra=20
>> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the =
>>inner=20
>> cities? Ollie North one of your heroes? </FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "I do not agree =
>>that the dog=20
>> in a manger has the final right to the manger <BR>> even though =
>>he may=20
>> have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that <BR>> =
>>right. I=20
>> do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the =
>><BR>>=20
>> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not =
>>admit that=20
>> <BR>> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a =
>>stronger=20
>> race, a <BR>> higher-grade race has come in and taken their =
>>place." -=20
>> Winston Churchill <BR>> (who apparently never said that thing =
>>about=20
>> liberal/conservative heart/brain <BR>> </FONT><A=20
>> =
>>href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
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>> face=3DArial=20
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>></FONT></A><FONT=20
>> face=3DArial size=3D2> )</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll bet if we just got a few =
>>lawyers involved,=20
>> they could find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we =
>>could=20
>> pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they =
>>would=20
>> kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a=20
>> casino.<BR> <BR>> "Religion poisons everything." - =
>>Christopher=20
>> Hitchens</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I read in the newspapers they are
> =
>>going to=20
>> have 30 minutes of intellectual stuff on television every Monday =
>>from 7.30=20
>> to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they =
>>started at=20
>> 6:30".-Groucho Marx<BR></FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>>Patriotism is the last =
>>refuge of a=20
>> scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT size=3D+0>=93When we have lost everything, including =
>>hope, life=20
>> becomes a disgrace, and death a duty."-</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>>size=3D2><FONT=20
>> face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>W.C.
> =
>>
>> Fields</FONT></FONT><BR>> <BR>> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! =
>>Don't eat=20
>> me! I have a wife and kids. Eat <BR>> them!" - Homer =
>>Simpson</DIV>
>> <DIV> </DIV>
>> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant =
>>protest=20
>> sign from Simpsons <BR>> episode</DIV>
>> <DIV> </DIV>
>> <DIV>"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.<BR><BR>> =
>>
>> <BR>> Courage,<BR>> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . .=20
>> )</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I thoroughly disapprove of duels.
> =
>>If a man=20
>> should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the
> =
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>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
>> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> </FONT><A=20
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>> face=3DArial size=3D2>> "Rich Lamanna" <</FONT><A=20
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>> size=3D2>richard.lamanna@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
>>size=3D2>>=20
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>>href=3D"news:464ce932@linux"><FONT=20
>> face=3DArial size=3D2>news:464ce932@linux</FONT></A><FONT =
>>face=3DArial=20
>> size=3D2>...<BR>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you =
>>can all=20
>> fan the flames. Why <BR>>> the<BR>>> heck not welcome =
>>some more=20
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>>price of=20
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>>entitled to=20
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>> its<BR>>> preservation." -- General Douglas=20
>> MacArthur<BR>>><BR>>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- =
>>posted=20
>> as an announcement outside a<BR>>> Unitarian Church in Texas =
>>on Sept.=20
>> 17, 2001<BR>>><BR>>> "In the beginning of a change the =
>>patriot=20
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>>scorned.=20
>> When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it =
>><BR>>>=20
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>> Twain<BR>>><BR>>> "History does not long entrust the =
>>care of=20
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>>D.=20
>> Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, =
>>1953<BR>>><BR>>>=20
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84781 is a reply to message #84779] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 10:52 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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......and if this keep up, we're not gonna' have anything left........right?
;o)
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:464de6e8@linux...
>
> LOL.
>
> If we could just get rid of those leftinistas, those lefty left
> lefterizers. Those constitution loving left-hosers. Man, they are so
> LEFT!!!!
>
> There, that solves it. :^)
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far left
>> in this country slag the only administration that is willing to fight for
>> their right to slag the administration. The leftleaning/outspoken first
>> amendment loving folks will be the first to be slaughtered by those that
>> they are tacitly assisting in defeating the policies of this
>> administration.
>> go figure.
>> ;o}
>>
>> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
>> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
>> news:464dc9f4@linux...
>> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It
>> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses
>> for Islamic extremist violence and fascism while at the same time
>> condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the
>> right to defend themselves against such attacks.
>> Rich
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
>> wrote in message news:464dc442@linux...
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com
>> <mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>> wrote in message
>> news:464da14d@linux...
>> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd
>> been treating
>> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's
>> always been
>> > instead of as a pretense for war,
>> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory there,
>> we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the
>> people there are black so this would be PC.
>> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like
>> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm
>> with you, but I
>> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the
>> last four years
>> > has done anything but fan the flames.
>> >
>> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
>> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>> > Some alternative quotations:
>> >
>> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the
>> war-cry, and
>> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to
>> open his mouth;
>> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the
>> statesmen will invent
>> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is
>> attacked, and every
>> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and
>> will diligently
>> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them;
>> and thus he will
>> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will
>> thank God for the
>> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque
>> self-deception." -
>> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can
>> distort them as much as you please".
>>
>> >
>> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against the
>> acquisition of
>> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the
>> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous
>> rise of
>> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things
>> in my life, some of which actually happened"
>>
>> >
>> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our
>> liberties or
>> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted.
>> Only an alert and
>> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the
>> huge industrial
>> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods
>> and goals, so
>> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D.
>> Eisenhower,
>> > 1961
>> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon
>> an alert and knowldegable CIA"
>>
>> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are
>> great numbers of
>> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion
>> or are those
>> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do?
>> One thing is
>> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be
>> allowed if it
>> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of
>> harvesters." - Ronald
>> > Reagan
>> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any
>> identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own
>> personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying
>> vehicle insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to
>> do hqat either. I also liked living in Mexico quite a bit.
>> Problem is, I can't got there and live. If I go down there
>> without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I have a
>> wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail.
>> I know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>>
>> >
>> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a
>> Frenchman; you can go
>> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or
>> a Greek, or
>> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come
>> to live in
>> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote
>> Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra
>> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the
>> inner cities? Ollie North one of your heroes?
>> >
>> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right
>> to the manger
>> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do
>> not admit that
>> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has
>> been done to the
>> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do
>> not admit that
>> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a
>> stronger race, a
>> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." -
>> Winston Churchill
>> > (who apparently never said that thing about
>> liberal/conservative heart/brain
>> >
>> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12 )
>> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find
>> a way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a
>> law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would
>> kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
>> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of
>> intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00
>> to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they
>> started at 6:30".-Groucho Marx
>> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
>> “When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a
>> disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>> >
>> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and
>> kids. Eat
>> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>> >
>> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign
>> from Simpsons
>> > episode
>> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>>
>> >
>> > Courage,
>> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>> "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me,
>> I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him
>> to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
>> ;o)
>> >
>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12
>> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
>> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
>> > news:464ce932@linux...
>> >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the
>> flames. Why
>> >> the
>> >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>> >>
>> >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell
>> Phillips
>> >>
>> >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be
>> vigilant in
>> >> its
>> >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>> >>
>> >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement
>> outside a
>> >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>> >>
>> >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man,
>> and brave, and
>> >> hated
>> >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him,
>> for then it
>> >> costs
>> >> nothing
>> >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>> >>
>> >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the
>> weak or the
>> >> timid."
>> >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20,
>> 1953
>> >>
>> >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs
>> to the
>> >> brave."
>> >> -- Ronald Reagan
>> >>
>> >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the
>> vigilant, the
>> >> active,
>> >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>> >>
>> >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer
>> the home of
>> >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>> >>
>> >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>> >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a
>> brain." --
>> >> Winston Churchill
>> >>
>> >> Guidance,
>> >> Rich
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84784 is a reply to message #84781] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 13:54 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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If we cut off our extremities, we may as well "disarm." Heh. Get it?
The whole idea is self "de-feeting." Chortle.
We wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
Uh, I gotta get more sleep...
Have a great weekend!
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> .....and if this keep up, we're not gonna' have anything left........right?
>
> ;o)
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:464de6e8@linux...
>> LOL.
>>
>> If we could just get rid of those leftinistas, those lefty left
>> lefterizers. Those constitution loving left-hosers. Man, they are so
>> LEFT!!!!
>>
>> There, that solves it. :^)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far left
>>> in this country slag the only administration that is willing to fight for
>>> their right to slag the administration. The leftleaning/outspoken first
>>> amendment loving folks will be the first to be slaughtered by those that
>>> they are tacitly assisting in defeating the policies of this
>>> administration.
>>> go figure.
>>> ;o}
>>>
>>> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
>>> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
>>> news:464dc9f4@linux...
>>> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It
>>> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses
>>> for Islamic extremist violence and fascism while at the same time
>>> condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the
>>> right to defend themselves against such attacks.
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
>>> wrote in message news:464dc442@linux...
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com
>>> <mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>> wrote in message
>>> news:464da14d@linux...
>>> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd
>>> been treating
>>> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's
>>> always been
>>> > instead of as a pretense for war,
>>> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory there,
>>> we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the
>>> people there are black so this would be PC.
>>> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like
>>> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm
>>> with you, but I
>>> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the
>>> last four years
>>> > has done anything but fan the flames.
>>> >
>>> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
>>> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>>> > Some alternative quotations:
>>> >
>>> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the
>>> war-cry, and
>>> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to
>>> open his mouth;
>>> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the
>>> statesmen will invent
>>> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is
>>> attacked, and every
>>> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and
>>> will diligently
>>> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them;
>>> and thus he will
>>> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will
>>> thank God for the
>>> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque
>>> self-deception." -
>>> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>>> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can
>>> distort them as much as you please".
>>>
>>> >
>>> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against the
>>> acquisition of
>>> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the
>>> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous
>>> rise of
>>> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>>> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things
>>> in my life, some of which actually happened"
>>>
>>> >
>>> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our
>>> liberties or
>>> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted.
>>> Only an alert and
>>> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the
>>> huge industrial
>>> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods
>>> and goals, so
>>> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D.
>>> Eisenhower,
>>> > 1961
>>> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon
>>> an alert and knowldegable CIA"
>>>
>>> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are
>>> great numbers of
>>> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion
>>> or are those
>>> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do?
>>> One thing is
>>> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be
>>> allowed if it
>>> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of
>>> harvesters." - Ronald
>>> > Reagan
>>> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any
>>> identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own
>>> personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying
>>> vehicle insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to
>>> do hqat either. I also liked living in Mexico quite a bit.
>>> Problem is, I can't got there and live. If I go down there
>>> without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I have a
>>> wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail.
>>> I know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a
>>> Frenchman; you can go
>>> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or
>>> a Greek, or
>>> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come
>>> to live in
>>> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>>> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote
>>> Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra
>>> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the
>>> inner cities? Ollie North one of your heroes?
>>> >
>>> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right
>>> to the manger
>>> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do
>>> not admit that
>>> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has
>>> been done to the
>>> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do
>>> not admit that
>>> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a
>>> stronger race, a
>>> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." -
>>> Winston Churchill
>>> > (who apparently never said that thing about
>>> liberal/conservative heart/brain
>>> >
>>> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12 )
>>> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find
>>> a way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a
>>> law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would
>>> kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
>>> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>>> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of
>>> intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00
>>> to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they
>>> started at 6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
>>> “When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a
>>> disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>>> >
>>> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and
>>> kids. Eat
>>> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>>> >
>>> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign
>>> from Simpsons
>>> > episode
>>> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Courage,
>>> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>>> "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me,
>>> I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him
>>> to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
>>> ;o)
>>> >
>>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12
>>> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
>>> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
>>> > news:464ce932@linux...
>>> >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the
>>> flames. Why
>>> >> the
>>> >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>> >>
>>> >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell
>>> Phillips
>>> >>
>>> >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be
>>> vigilant in
>>> >> its
>>> >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>> >>
>>> >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement
>>> outside a
>>> >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>> >>
>>> >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man,
>>> and brave, and
>>> >> hated
>>> >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him,
>>> for then it
>>> >> costs
>>> >> nothing
>>> >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>> >>
>>> >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the
>>> weak or the
>>> >> timid."
>>> >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20,
>>> 1953
>>> >>
>>> >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs
>>> to the
>>> >> brave."
>>> >> -- Ronald Reagan
>>> >>
>>> >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the
>>> vigilant, the
>>> >> active,
>>> >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>> >>
>>> >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer
>>> the home of
>>> >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>> >>
>>> >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>>> >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a
>>> brain." --
>>> >> Winston Churchill
>>> >>
>>> >> Guidance,
>>> >> Rich
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>
>
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84792 is a reply to message #84780] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 19:11 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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You hung out with Ron Paul's hot niece?!? And I thought you were cool just
because you'll take on hardware projects I won't. Wow.
My point, of course, is that conservatives like me--the old school isolationist
ones--despise this war and, like Unky Ron Paul, think that the CIA concept
of blowback means something. It's funny, when I was in Bangkok this last
time I was hungry and thirsty and dropped into a bar. Had a long conversation
with a guy who worked for a non-profit that goes all over the world clearing
land mines. Unsurprisingly he had spent lots of time in Afghanistan, one
of the most mined countries in the world. I asked him, point blank, if the
Taliban and other fellow travelers were using literally the same guns and
other weapons to shoot US/NATO troops that the CIA gave them to fight the
Russians. He shook his head (a Brit by the way) and said, 'Of course, they're
the best weapons in the country.'
Us old school conservatives also despised Ruby Ridge and Waco and a lot of
other things that were done to 'crazy' people and 'religious fanatics' and
so on. And the Islamberg folks have as much right as any home schooling holy
rolling Christian community does to live as they wish as long as they obey
the law. When they don't, they should be punished, just like child molesting
Roman Catholic priests.
But I'm still jealous you hung out with Ron Paul's gorgeous niece. I mean,
what's not to like? Libertarian politics in a hot Texas girl. Where do I
sign up?
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>hehe!............yeah. The Pauls are definitely a bunch of populist commies.
>Goddam' popolist golf commies, at that. Here's their modest little
>unassuming storefront in Austin.
>
>http://www.golfsmith.com/
>
>I took acting lessons with his niece Kelly back in the early 90's. A dead
>ringer for Chynna Phillips. Uncle Ron was considered to be qhite the family
>hoot. If only Ron's side of the family had those looks, he would at least
>have photogeniety going for him.....and he voted for legalizing marijuana
>before he became a Republican. I do think he's right about our foriegn
>policy pissin people off though...........but those pissed off foriegners'
>foriegn policy pisses me off too.
>
>;o)
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:464de5db$1@linux...
>>
>> Yup, those wing nuts on the left. Like Ron Paul. Did you see him in the
>> pres.
>> debate? Freaking commie.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far left
>> =
>>>in this country slag the only administration that is willing to fight
=
>>>for their right to slag the administration. The leftleaning/outspoken
=
>>>first amendment loving folks will be the first to be slaughtered by =
>>>those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the policies of this
>> =
>>>administration.
>>>
>>>go figure.
>>>
>>>;o}
>>> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
>>>news:464dc9f4@linux...
>>> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It astounds
>> =
>>>me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for Islamic =
>>>extremist violence and fascism while at the same time condemn those =
>>>democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the right to defend
=
>>>themselves against such attacks.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
>>>news:464dc442@linux...
>>>
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
>>>news:464da14d@linux...
>>> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been =
>>>treating=20
>>> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always
=
>>>been=20
>>> > instead of as a pretense for war,=20
>>>
>>> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory there, we
=
>>>could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the people =
>>>there are black so this would be PC.
>>>
>>> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like=20
>>> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with
=
>>>you, but I=20
>>> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last
=
>>>four years=20
>>> > has done anything but fan the flames.
>>> >=20
>>> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
>>> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>>>
>>>
>>> > Some alternative quotations:
>>> >=20
>>> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
>>>war-cry, and=20
>>> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open
=
>>>his mouth;=20
>>> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen
=
>>>will invent=20
>>> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked,
=
>>>and every=20
>>> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will
>> =
>>>diligently=20
>>> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and =
>>>thus he will=20
>>> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank
=
>>>God for the=20
>>> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
>>>self-deception." -=20
>>> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>>>
>>> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort
>> =
>>>them as much as you please".
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against the =
>>>acquisition of=20
>>> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
>>> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise
>> =
>>>of=20
>>> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>>>
>>> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in
=
>>>my life, some of which actually happened"
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
>>>liberties or=20
>>> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an
>> =
>>>alert and=20
>>> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge
>> =
>>>industrial=20
>>> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and
=
>>>goals, so=20
>>> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
>>>Eisenhower,=20
>>> > 1961
>>>
>>> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon an
>> =
>>>alert and knowldegable CIA"=20
>>>
>>> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great
=
>>>numbers of=20
>>> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are
>> =
>>>those=20
>>> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One
>> =
>>>thing is=20
>>> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be =
>>>allowed if it=20
>>> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters."
-
>> =
>>>Ronald=20
>>> > Reagan
>>>
>>> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
>>>identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own personal =
>>>health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle insurance
is
>> =
>>>such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked
>> =
>>>living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live.
If
>> =
>>>I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
>>>have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail.
I
>> =
>>>know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman;
>> =
>>>you can go=20
>>> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a
=
>>>Greek, or=20
>>> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to
=
>>>live in=20
>>> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>>>
>>> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan.
=
>>>Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra Show? How about the
>> =
>>>way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? Ollie North
=
>>>one of your heroes?=20
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to
=
>>>the manger=20
>>> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not
>> =
>>>admit that=20
>>> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been
=
>>>done to the=20
>>> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not
>> =
>>>admit that=20
>>> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger
>> =
>>>race, a=20
>>> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston
=
>>>Churchill=20
>>> > (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative
=
>>>heart/brain=20
>>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
)
>>>
>>> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find a
=
>>>way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a law that
=
>>>handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick their asses out
>> =
>>>of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
>>> =20
>>> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>>>
>>> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of =
>>>intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00 to =
>>>educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
>>>6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>>
>>> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
>>>
>>> "When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a =
>>>disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>>> >=20
>>> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids.
=
>>>Eat=20
>>> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>>>
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from
=
>>>Simpsons=20
>>> > episode
>>>
>>> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > Courage,
>>> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>>>
>>> "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I
=
>>>would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a =
>>>quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
>>> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
>>> > news:464ce932@linux...
>>> >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the =
>>>flames. Why=20
>>> >> the
>>> >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>> >>
>>> >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>>> >>
>>> >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be =
>>>vigilant in=20
>>> >> its
>>> >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>> >>
>>> >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement =
>>>outside a
>>> >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>> >>
>>> >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and
=
>>>brave, and
>>> >> hated
>>> >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for =
>>>then it=20
>>> >> costs
>>> >> nothing
>>> >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>> >>
>>> >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak
or
>> =
>>>the
>>> >> timid."
>>> >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>> >>
>>> >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to
=
>>>the=20
>>> >> brave."
>>> >> -- Ronald Reagan
>>> >>
>>> >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the =
>>>vigilant, the
>>> >> active,
>>> >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>> >>
>>> >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the
=
>>>home of
>>> >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>> >>
>>> >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>>> >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a =
>>>brain." --=20
>>> >> Winston Churchill
>>> >>
>>> >> Guidance,
>>> >> Rich
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>=20
>>> >=20
>>> >
>>>
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>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The thing that has always intrigued me
>> =
>>>is how the=20
>>>folks on the far left in this country slag the only administration that
>> =
>>>is=20
>>>willing to fight for their right to slag the administration. The=20
>>>leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first to
>> =
>>>be=20
>>>slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the
=
>>>policies=20
>>>of this administration.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>go figure.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o}</FONT></DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"Rich Lamanna" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net">richard.lamanna@verizon.net</=
>>>A>>=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>href=3D"news:464dc9f4@linux">news:464dc9f4@linux</A>...</DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well
=
>>>written. It=20
>>> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for
>> =
>>>Islamic=20
>>> extremist violence and fascism while at the same time=20
>>> condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, who =
>>>reserve=20
>>> the right to defend themselves against such attacks.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT><BR></DIV>
>>> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
>>>wrote=20
>>> in message <A =
>>>href=3D"news:464dc442@linux">news:464dc442@linux</A>...</DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sarah" <</FONT><A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
>>>size=3D2>> wrote=20
>>> in message </FONT><A href=3D"news:464da14d@linux"><FONT face=3DArial
>> =
>>>
>>> size=3D2>news:464da14d@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Surely this doesn't surprise =
>>>you . . .=20
>>> ? Perhaps if we'd been treating <BR>> terrorism as the=20
>>> international criminal problem that it's always been <BR>> =
>>>instead of as=20
>>> a pretense for war, </FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.........now if they would just =
>>>build an asprin=20
>>> factory there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like
=
>>>most of=20
>>> the people there are black so this would be PC.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical =
>>>morons like=20
>>> <BR>> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, =
>>>I'm=20
>>> with you, but I <BR>> hope you don't think what we've been doing =
>>>in Iraq=20
>>> for the last four years <BR>> has done anything but fan the=20
>>> flames.<BR>> </FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are lots of flourishing nests
>> =
>>>of=20
>>> fanatical morons Sarah.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D" http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp"><=
>>>FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> =
>>>size=3D2> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp</=
>>>FONT></A></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Some alternative =
>>>quotations:<BR>>=20
>>> <BR>> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up =
>>>the=20
>>> war-cry, and <BR>> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man =
>>>who=20
>>> ventures to open his mouth; <BR>> and presently such mouths will =
>>>cease to=20
>>> open. Next the statesmen will invent <BR>> cheap lies, putting =
>>>the blame=20
>>> upon the nation that is attacked, and every <BR>> man will be =
>>>glad of=20
>>> those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently <BR>> =
>>>study=20
>>> them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he =
>>>will=20
>>> <BR>> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will =
>>>thank God=20
>>> for the <BR>> better sleep he enjoys after this process of =
>>>grotesque=20
>>> self-deception." - <BR>> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious=20
>>> Stranger</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "Get your =
>>>facts first, and=20
>>> then you can distort them as much as you please".</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "In the councils =
>>>of=20
>>> government, we must guard against the acquisition of <BR>> =
>>>unwarranted=20
>>> influence, whether sought or unsought, by the <BR>> =
>>>military-industrial=20
>>> complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of <BR>> misplaced
=
>>>power=20
>>> exists and will persist.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "I have been
=
>>>throught some=20
>>> terrible things in my life, some of which actually =
>>>happened"</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never let =
>>>the weight=20
>>> of this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> democratic =
>>>processes.=20
>>> We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and <BR>> =
>>>knowledgeable=20
>>> citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial =
>>><BR>> and=20
>>> military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals,
=
>>>so=20
>>> <BR>> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight =
>>>D.=20
>>> Eisenhower, <BR>> 1961</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej also said "An alert and =
>>>knowledgable=20
>>> citizenry depends upon an alert and knowldegable CIA" </FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> "...it makes one wonder =
>>>about the=20
>>> illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of <BR>> our unemployed =
>>>really=20
>>> victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those <BR>> illegal =
>>>tourists=20
>>> actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is <BR>> =
>>>certain=20
>>> in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it
=
>>><BR>>=20
>>> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." -
=
>>>Ronald=20
>>> <BR>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with this. I also think I
=
>>>should not=20
>>> have to produce any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should
>> =
>>>be my=20
>>> own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying =
>>>vehicle=20
>>> insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat =
>>>either. I=20
>>> also liked living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got =
>>>there and=20
>>> live. If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in
=
>>>jail. If=20
>>> I have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in
=
>>>jail. I=20
>>> know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "You can go to =
>>>live in=20
>>> France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go <BR>> to =
>>>live in=20
>>> Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or =
>>><BR>>=20
>>> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live
>> =
>>>in=20
>>> <BR>> America and become an American." - more Ronald =
>>>Reagan</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it's sooooo cool when =
>>>people who are=20
>>> liberal quote Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the
>> =
>>>Contra=20
>>> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the =
>>>inner=20
>>> cities? Ollie North one of your heroes? </FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "I do not agree =
>>>that the dog=20
>>> in a manger has the final right to the manger <BR>> even though =
>>>he may=20
>>> have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that <BR>> =
>>>right. I=20
>>> do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the
=
>>><BR>>=20
>>> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not
=
>>>admit that=20
>>> <BR>> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a =
>>>stronger=20
>>> race, a <BR>> higher-grade race has come in and taken their =
>>>place." -=20
>>> Winston Churchill <BR>> (who apparently never said that thing =
>>>about=20
>>> liberal/conservative heart/brain <BR>> </FONT><A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
>>>><FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> =
>>>size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
>>></FONT></A><FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial size=3D2> )</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll bet if we just got a few =
>>>lawyers involved,=20
>>> they could find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we
=
>>>could=20
>>> pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they =
>>>would=20
>>> kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a=20
>>> casino.<BR> <BR>> "Religion poisons everything." - =
>>>Christopher=20
>>> Hitchens</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I read in the newspapers they are
>> =
>>>going to=20
>>> have 30 minutes of intellectual stuff on television every Monday =
>>>from 7.30=20
>>> to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they
=
>>>started at=20
>>> 6:30".-Groucho Marx<BR></FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>>Patriotism is the last =
>>>refuge of a=20
>>> scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D+0>=93When we have lost everything, including =
>>>hope, life=20
>>> becomes a disgrace, and death a duty."-</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>>>size=3D2><FONT=20
>>> face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>W.C.
>> =
>>>
>>> Fields</FONT></FONT><BR>> <BR>> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! =
>>>Don't eat=20
>>> me! I have a wife and kids. Eat <BR>> them!" - Homer =
>>>Simpson</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant =
>>>protest=20
>>> sign from Simpsons <BR>> episode</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.<BR><BR>>
=
>>>
>>> <BR>> Courage,<BR>> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . .=20
>>> )</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I thoroughly disapprove of duels.
>> =
>>>If a man=20
>>> should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the
>> =
>>>hand and=20
>>> lead him to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> </FONT><A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
>>>><FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> =
>>>size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
>>></FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>> "Rich Lamanna" <</FONT><A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>richard.lamanna@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial
=
>>>size=3D2>>=20
>>> wrote in message <BR>> </FONT><A =
>>>href=3D"news:464ce932@linux"><FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>news:464ce932@linux</FONT></A><FONT =
>>>face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>...<BR>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you =
>>>can all=20
>>> fan the flames. Why <BR>>> the<BR>>> heck not welcome =
>>>some more=20
>>> illegals.<BR>>><BR>>> </FONT><A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm"><FON=
>>>T=20
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> =
>>>size=3D2>http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm</FON=
>>>T></A><BR><FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>>><BR>>> "Eternal vigilance is the =
>>>price of=20
>>> liberty." -- Wendell Phillips<BR>>><BR>>> "No man is =
>>>entitled to=20
>>> the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in <BR>>>=20
>>> its<BR>>> preservation." -- General Douglas=20
>>> MacArthur<BR>>><BR>>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- =
>>>posted=20
>>> as an announcement outside a<BR>>> Unitarian Church in Texas =
>>>on Sept.=20
>>> 17, 2001<BR>>><BR>>> "In the beginning of a change the =
>>>patriot=20
>>> is a scarce man, and brave, and<BR>>> hated<BR>>> and =
>>>scorned.=20
>>> When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it =
>>><BR>>>=20
>>> costs<BR>>> nothing<BR>>> to be a patriot." -- Mark=20
>>> Twain<BR>>><BR>>> "History does not long entrust the =
>>>care of=20
>>> freedom to the weak or the<BR>>> timid."<BR>>> -- Dwight =
>>>D.=20
>>> Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, =
>>>1953<BR>>><BR>>>=20
>>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
>>>the=20
>>> <BR>>> brave."<BR>>> -- Ronald =
>>>Reagan<BR>>><BR>>>=20
>>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant,
>> =
>>>
>>> the<BR>>> active,<BR>>> the brave." -- Patrick=20
>>> Henry<BR>>><BR>>> "The land of the free will cease to be =
>>>when=20
>>> it's no longer the home of<BR>>> the brave."-- Rick=20
>>> Gaber<BR>>><BR>>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal =
>>>doesn't=20
>>> have a heart,<BR>>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a =
>>>conservative=20
>>> doesn't have a brain." -- <BR>>> Winston=20
>>> Churchill<BR>>><BR>>> Guidance,<BR>>>=20
>>> Rich<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>=20
>>> <BR>></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML >
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| Re: OT: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84793 is a reply to message #84755] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 19:36 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
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It was too early when I wrote that.
Look, it's a thorny issue. The point I was trying to make is I support
the freedom of those religions that grant others the same freedom. I
don't support freedom of a religion that is trying to curtail freedom,
you dig?
We have to take responsibility for mis-guided people just the way one
does for a child. With a small child, you don't get angry and punish him
or her for making a bad choice. You exert calm, confident control and
direct it towards the right choice. We have to be bigger than them, and
not react angrily to their desperate attempts to cause an effect on us.
Think how pathetically desperate a group must be if the only way they
can dream up to communicate is through terrorism. That is quite
pathetic. To react to that, to conduct a "War Against Terrorism" is
about as desperate and pathetic IMHO.
And it's so uncreative and historically repetitive as to be a big dumb
bore. Just think how much more effective and creative it would have been
to spend a few billion dollars to simply buy access to the terrorists
and then put them away. Very little collateral damage. The people who
stand up for freedom by denouncing the terrorists get rich as they
deserve for their bravery and everybody else lives happier, free-er lives.
I know some will say it would never work like that, but did anyone ever try?
Bill
Rich Lamanna wrote:
> Bill, I have no problem with freedom, you infidel :-) I am a
> constitutionalist and believe strongly in the 1st amendment. Unfortunately
> the radical Islamic doesn't cherish those same freedoms you and I hold
> dearly. They are willing to die to impose their fascism and intolerant
> theocratic rubbish upon us.
>
> Remember Waco. The ATF, under the administration of Clinton and Janet
> Sterno, stormed the Branch Davidian home, in Rambo fashion, to serve a
> search warrant issued on the suspicion that the group was stockpiling
> automatic weapons, massacring almost 100 hundred men, women, and children.
> But I doubt that the FBI or ATF would ever raid these holy men, oh God no,
> despite the fact that they are irrefutably armed to the teeth and practicing
> for violent Jihad.
>
> Did you read the article dude? Did you read the part about the violent
> incidents involving Jamaat Ul Fuora in the US?
> "By 2004 federal investigators uncovered evidence that linked both the DC
> "sniper killer" John Allen Muhammed and "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid to the
> group and reports surfaced that Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl
> was captured and beheaded in the process of attempting to obtain an
> interview with Sheikh Gilani in Pakistan."
>
> http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/paul-williams-map-larg e.jpg
>
> What were Koresh and the Davidians guilty of? Maybe of being Christians.
> Nothing compared to this group. Wake up man, this is not about freedom of
> religion this is about a Jihad threatening our existence and the choice to
> exercise any freedoms let alone freedom of religion. We had better keep an
> eye on these guys.
>
> Rich
>
> From my cold dead hands - Charlton Heston
>
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:464d8d4f@linux...
>> I strongly support freedom, especially freedom of religion. Part of
>> religious freedom is the freedom of religious choice.
>>
>> A religion worthy of freedom would increase individual freedom.
>>
>> With freedom comes increased responsibility; with increased
>> responsibility comes increased freedom. By increasing freedoms for all
>> one's own freedoms are increased.
>>
>> “Constant and continual alertness is the price of freedom.
>> Constant willingness to fight back is the price of freedom.
>> There is no other price actually.”
>> — L. RON HUBBARD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rich Lamanna wrote:
>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why
> the
>>> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>>
>>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>>
>>> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>>>
>>> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in
> its
>>> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>>
>>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a
>>> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>>
>>> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave,
> and
>>> hated
>>> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it
> costs
>>> nothing
>>> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>>
>>> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the
>>> timid."
>>> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>>
>>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the
> brave."
>>> -- Ronald Reagan
>>>
>>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the
>>> active,
>>> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>>
>>> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home of
>>> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>>
>>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." --
>>> Winston Churchill
>>>
>>> Guidance,
>>> Rich
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84795 is a reply to message #84792] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 20:53 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Ya know, I think I actually have some VHS tapes around here somewhere of us
doing some scene together. I was going through some old boxes the other day
and saw a bunch of stuff that I thought I had trashed when we were moving
from Austin to Durango. One of them had an audition for Dazed and Confused
and another for Texas Chainsaw Massacre on it. Also, one for some Clint
Eastwood flick that was filmed around Austin in the 90's. My acting teacher
was part of the casting apparatus for these movies and encouraged me to
audition. I got a great paying gig working down on the border and couldn't
commit so the auditions went nowhere. She always had me audition for Nack
Nicholson'esque parts. Said I fit the same kind of character profile. No
tellin' what's on those tapes.other than some bad acting.
;o)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:464e5cc9$1@linux...
>
> You hung out with Ron Paul's hot niece?!? And I thought you were cool just
> because you'll take on hardware projects I won't. Wow.
>
> My point, of course, is that conservatives like me--the old school
> isolationist
> ones--despise this war and, like Unky Ron Paul, think that the CIA concept
> of blowback means something. It's funny, when I was in Bangkok this last
> time I was hungry and thirsty and dropped into a bar. Had a long
> conversation
> with a guy who worked for a non-profit that goes all over the world
> clearing
> land mines. Unsurprisingly he had spent lots of time in Afghanistan, one
> of the most mined countries in the world. I asked him, point blank, if the
> Taliban and other fellow travelers were using literally the same guns and
> other weapons to shoot US/NATO troops that the CIA gave them to fight the
> Russians. He shook his head (a Brit by the way) and said, 'Of course,
> they're
> the best weapons in the country.'
>
> Us old school conservatives also despised Ruby Ridge and Waco and a lot of
> other things that were done to 'crazy' people and 'religious fanatics' and
> so on. And the Islamberg folks have as much right as any home schooling
> holy
> rolling Christian community does to live as they wish as long as they obey
> the law. When they don't, they should be punished, just like child
> molesting
> Roman Catholic priests.
>
> But I'm still jealous you hung out with Ron Paul's gorgeous niece. I mean,
> what's not to like? Libertarian politics in a hot Texas girl. Where do I
> sign up?
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>hehe!............yeah. The Pauls are definitely a bunch of populist
>>commies.
>
>>Goddam' popolist golf commies, at that. Here's their modest little
>>unassuming storefront in Austin.
>>
>>http://www.golfsmith.com/
>>
>>I took acting lessons with his niece Kelly back in the early 90's. A dead
>
>>ringer for Chynna Phillips. Uncle Ron was considered to be qhite the
>>family
>
>>hoot. If only Ron's side of the family had those looks, he would at least
>
>>have photogeniety going for him.....and he voted for legalizing marijuana
>
>>before he became a Republican. I do think he's right about our foriegn
>>policy pissin people off though...........but those pissed off foriegners'
>
>>foriegn policy pisses me off too.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:464de5db$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Yup, those wing nuts on the left. Like Ron Paul. Did you see him in the
>
>>> pres.
>>> debate? Freaking commie.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far left
>>> =
>>>>in this country slag the only administration that is willing to fight
> =
>>>>for their right to slag the administration. The leftleaning/outspoken
> =
>>>>first amendment loving folks will be the first to be slaughtered by =
>>>>those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the policies of this
>>> =
>>>>administration.
>>>>
>>>>go figure.
>>>>
>>>>;o}
>>>> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
>>>>news:464dc9f4@linux...
>>>> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It astounds
>>> =
>>>>me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for Islamic =
>>>>extremist violence and fascism while at the same time condemn those =
>>>>democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the right to defend
> =
>>>>themselves against such attacks.
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
>>>>news:464dc442@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
>>>>news:464da14d@linux...
>>>> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been =
>>>>treating=20
>>>> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always
> =
>>>>been=20
>>>> > instead of as a pretense for war,=20
>>>>
>>>> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory there, we
> =
>>>>could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the people =
>>>>there are black so this would be PC.
>>>>
>>>> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like=20
>>>> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with
> =
>>>>you, but I=20
>>>> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last
> =
>>>>four years=20
>>>> > has done anything but fan the flames.
>>>> >=20
>>>> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
>>>> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Some alternative quotations:
>>>> >=20
>>>> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
>>>>war-cry, and=20
>>>> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open
> =
>>>>his mouth;=20
>>>> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen
> =
>>>>will invent=20
>>>> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked,
> =
>>>>and every=20
>>>> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will
>>> =
>>>>diligently=20
>>>> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and =
>>>>thus he will=20
>>>> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank
> =
>>>>God for the=20
>>>> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
>>>>self-deception." -=20
>>>> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>>>>
>>>> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort
>>> =
>>>>them as much as you please".
>>>>
>>>> >=20
>>>> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against the =
>>>>acquisition of=20
>>>> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
>>>> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise
>>> =
>>>>of=20
>>>> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>>>>
>>>> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in
> =
>>>>my life, some of which actually happened"
>>>>
>>>> >=20
>>>> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
>>>>liberties or=20
>>>> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an
>>> =
>>>>alert and=20
>>>> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge
>>> =
>>>>industrial=20
>>>> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and
> =
>>>>goals, so=20
>>>> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
>>>>Eisenhower,=20
>>>> > 1961
>>>>
>>>> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon an
>>> =
>>>>alert and knowldegable CIA"=20
>>>>
>>>> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great
> =
>>>>numbers of=20
>>>> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are
>>> =
>>>>those=20
>>>> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One
>>> =
>>>>thing is=20
>>>> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be =
>>>>allowed if it=20
>>>> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters."
> -
>>> =
>>>>Ronald=20
>>>> > Reagan
>>>>
>>>> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
>>>>identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own personal =
>>>>health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle insurance
> is
>>> =
>>>>such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked
>>> =
>>>>living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live.
> If
>>> =
>>>>I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
>>>>have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail.
> I
>>> =
>>>>know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>>>>
>>>> >=20
>>>> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman;
>>> =
>>>>you can go=20
>>>> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a
> =
>>>>Greek, or=20
>>>> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to
> =
>>>>live in=20
>>>> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>>>>
>>>> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan.
> =
>>>>Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra Show? How about the
>>> =
>>>>way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? Ollie North
> =
>>>>one of your heroes?=20
>>>>
>>>> >=20
>>>> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to
> =
>>>>the manger=20
>>>> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not
>>> =
>>>>admit that=20
>>>> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been
> =
>>>>done to the=20
>>>> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not
>>> =
>>>>admit that=20
>>>> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger
>>> =
>>>>race, a=20
>>>> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston
> =
>>>>Churchill=20
>>>> > (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative
> =
>>>>heart/brain=20
>>>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
> )
>>>>
>>>> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find a
> =
>>>>way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a law that
> =
>>>>handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick their asses out
>>> =
>>>>of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
>>>> =20
>>>> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>>>>
>>>> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of =
>>>>intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00 to =
>>>>educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
>>>>6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>>>
>>>> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
>>>>
>>>> "When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a =
>>>>disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>>>> >=20
>>>> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids.
> =
>>>>Eat=20
>>>> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >=20
>>>> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from
> =
>>>>Simpsons=20
>>>> > episode
>>>>
>>>> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>>>>
>>>> >=20
>>>> > Courage,
>>>> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>>>>
>>>> "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I
> =
>>>>would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a =
>>>>quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >=20
>>>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
>>>> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
>>>> > news:464ce932@linux...
>>>> >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the =
>>>>flames. Why=20
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be =
>>>>vigilant in=20
>>>> >> its
>>>> >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement =
>>>>outside a
>>>> >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and
> =
>>>>brave, and
>>>> >> hated
>>>> >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for =
>>>>then it=20
>>>> >> costs
>>>> >> nothing
>>>> >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak
> or
>>> =
>>>>the
>>>> >> timid."
>>>> >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to
> =
>>>>the=20
>>>> >> brave."
>>>> >> -- Ronald Reagan
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the =
>>>>vigilant, the
>>>> >> active,
>>>> >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the
> =
>>>>home of
>>>> >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>>>> >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a =
>>>>brain." --=20
>>>> >> Winston Churchill
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Guidance,
>>>> >> Rich
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>=20
>>>> >=20
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The thing that has always intrigued me
>>> =
>>>>is how the=20
>>>>folks on the far left in this country slag the only administration that
>>> =
>>>>is=20
>>>>willing to fight for their right to slag the administration. The=20
>>>>leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first to
>>> =
>>>>be=20
>>>>slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the
> =
>>>>policies=20
>>>>of this administration.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>go figure.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o}</FONT></DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"Rich Lamanna" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net">richard.lamanna@verizon.net</=
>>>>A>>=20
>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>>href=3D"news:464dc9f4@linux">news:464dc9f4@linux</A>...</DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well
> =
>>>>written. It=20
>>>> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for
>>> =
>>>>Islamic=20
>>>> extremist violence and fascism while at the same time=20
>>>> condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, who =
>>>>reserve=20
>>>> the right to defend themselves against such attacks.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT><BR></DIV>
>>>> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
>>>>wrote=20
>>>> in message <A =
>>>>href=3D"news:464dc442@linux">news:464dc442@linux</A>...</DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sarah" <</FONT><A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2>sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
>>>>size=3D2>> wrote=20
>>>> in message </FONT><A href=3D"news:464da14d@linux"><FONT face=3DArial
>>> =
>>>>
>>>> size=3D2>news:464da14d@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>>size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Surely this doesn't surprise =
>>>>you . . .=20
>>>> ? Perhaps if we'd been treating <BR>> terrorism as the=20
>>>> international criminal problem that it's always been <BR>> =
>>>>instead of as=20
>>>> a pretense for war, </FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.........now if they would just =
>>>>build an asprin=20
>>>> factory there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like
> =
>>>>most of=20
>>>> the people there are black so this would be PC.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical =
>>>>morons like=20
>>>> <BR>> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, =
>>>>I'm=20
>>>> with you, but I <BR>> hope you don't think what we've been doing =
>>>>in Iraq=20
>>>> for the last four years <BR>> has done anything but fan the=20
>>>> flames.<BR>> </FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are lots of flourishing nests
>>> =
>>>>of=20
>>>> fanatical morons Sarah.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D" http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp"><=
>>>>FONT=20
>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D2> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp</=
>>>>FONT></A></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Some alternative =
>>>>quotations:<BR>>=20
>>>> <BR>> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up =
>>>>the=20
>>>> war-cry, and <BR>> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man =
>>>>who=20
>>>> ventures to open his mouth; <BR>> and presently such mouths will =
>>>>cease to=20
>>>> open. Next the statesmen will invent <BR>> cheap lies, putting =
>>>>the blame=20
>>>> upon the nation that is attacked, and every <BR>> man will be =
>>>>glad of=20
>>>> those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently <BR>> =
>>>>study=20
>>>> them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he =
>>>>will=20
>>>> <BR>> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will =
>>>>thank God=20
>>>> for the <BR>> better sleep he enjoys after this process of =
>>>>grotesque=20
>>>> self-deception." - <BR>> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious=20
>>>> Stranger</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "Get your =
>>>>facts first, and=20
>>>> then you can distort them as much as you please".</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "In the councils =
>>>>of=20
>>>> government, we must guard against the acquisition of <BR>> =
>>>>unwarranted=20
>>>> influence, whether sought or unsought, by the <BR>> =
>>>>military-industrial=20
>>>> complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of <BR>> misplaced
> =
>>>>power=20
>>>> exists and will persist.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "I have been
> =
>>>>throught some=20
>>>> terrible things in my life, some of which actually =
>>>>happened"</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never let =
>>>>the weight=20
>>>> of this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> democratic =
>>>>processes.=20
>>>> We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and <BR>> =
>>>>knowledgeable=20
>>>> citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial =
>>>><BR>> and=20
>>>> military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals,
> =
>>>>so=20
>>>> <BR>> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight =
>>>>D.=20
>>>> Eisenhower, <BR>> 1961</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej also said "An alert and =
>>>>knowledgable=20
>>>> citizenry depends upon an alert and knowldegable CIA" </FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> "...it makes one wonder =
>>>>about the=20
>>>> illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of <BR>> our unemployed =
>>>>really=20
>>>> victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those <BR>> illegal =
>>>>tourists=20
>>>> actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is <BR>> =
>>>>certain=20
>>>> in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it
> =
>>>><BR>>=20
>>>> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." -
> =
>>>>Ronald=20
>>>> <BR>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with this. I also think I
> =
>>>>should not=20
>>>> have to produce any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should
>>> =
>>>>be my=20
>>>> own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying =
>>>>vehicle=20
>>>> insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat =
>>>>either. I=20
>>>> also liked living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got =
>>>>there and=20
>>>> live. If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in
> =
>>>>jail. If=20
>>>> I have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in
> =
>>>>jail. I=20
>>>> know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "You can go to =
>>>>live in=20
>>>> France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go <BR>> to =
>>>>live in=20
>>>> Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or =
>>>><BR>>=20
>>>> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live
>>> =
>>>>in=20
>>>> <BR>> America and become an American." - more Ronald =
>>>>Reagan</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it's sooooo cool when =
>>>>people who are=20
>>>> liberal quote Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the
>>> =
>>>>Contra=20
>>>> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the =
>>>>inner=20
>>>> cities? Ollie North one of your heroes? </FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "I do not agree =
>>>>that the dog=20
>>>> in a manger has the final right to the manger <BR>> even though =
>>>>he may=20
>>>> have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that <BR>> =
>>>>right. I=20
>>>> do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the
> =
>>>><BR>>=20
>>>> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not
> =
>>>>admit that=20
>>>> <BR>> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a =
>>>>stronger=20
>>>> race, a <BR>> higher-grade race has come in and taken their =
>>>>place." -=20
>>>> Winston Churchill <BR>> (who apparently never said that thing =
>>>>about=20
>>>> liberal/conservative heart/brain <BR>> </FONT><A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
>>>>><FONT=20
>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
>>>></FONT></A><FONT=20
>>>> face=3DArial size=3D2> )</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll bet if we just got a few =
>>>>lawyers involved,=20
>>>> they could find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we
> =
>>>>could=20
>>>> pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they =
>>>>would=20
>>>> kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a=20
>>>> casino.<BR> <BR>> "Religion poisons everything." - =
>>>>Christopher=20
>>>> Hitchens</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I read in the newspapers they are
>>> =
>>>>going to=20
>>>> have 30 minutes of intellectual stuff on television every Monday =
>>>>from 7.30=20
>>>> to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they
> =
>>>>started at=20
>>>> 6:30".-Groucho Marx<BR></FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>>Patriotism is the last =
>>>>refuge of a=20
>>>> scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D+0>=93When we have lost everything, including =
>>>>hope, life=20
>>>> becomes a disgrace, and death a duty."-</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>>>>size=3D2><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>W.C.
>>> =
>>>>
>>>> Fields</FONT></FONT><BR>> <BR>> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! =
>>>>Don't eat=20
>>>> me! I have a wife and kids. Eat <BR>> them!" - Homer =
>>>>Simpson</DIV>
>>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant =
>>>>protest=20
>>>> sign from Simpsons <BR>> episode</DIV>
>>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV>"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.<BR><BR>>
> =
>>>>
>>>> <BR>> Courage,<BR>> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . .=20
>>>> )</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I thoroughly disapprove of duels.
>>> =
>>>>If a man=20
>>>> should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the
>>> =
>>>>hand and=20
>>>> lead him to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> </FONT><A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
>>>>><FONT=20
>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
>>>></FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
>>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>> "Rich Lamanna" <</FONT><A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2>richard.lamanna@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial
> =
>>>>size=3D2>>=20
>>>> wrote in message <BR>> </FONT><A =
>>>>href=3D"news:464ce932@linux"><FONT=20
>>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>news:464ce932@linux</FONT></A><FONT =
>>>>face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2>...<BR>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you =
>>>>can all=20
>>>> fan the flames. Why <BR>>> the<BR>>> heck not welcome =
>>>>some more=20
>>>> illegals.<BR>>><BR>>> </FONT><A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm"><FON=
>>>>T=20
>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D2>http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm</FON=
>>>>T></A><BR><FONT=20
>>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>>><BR>>> "Eternal vigilance is the =
>>>>price of=20
>>>> liberty." -- Wendell Phillips<BR>>><BR>>> "No man is =
>>>>entitled to=20
>>>> the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in <BR>>>=20
>>>> its<BR>>> preservation." -- General Douglas=20
>>>> MacArthur<BR>>><BR>>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- =
>>>>posted=20
>>>> as an announcement outside a<BR>>> Unitarian Church in Texas =
>>>>on Sept.=20
>>>> 17, 2001<BR>>><BR>>> "In the beginning of a change the =
>>>>patriot=20
>>>> is a scarce man, and brave, and<BR>>> hated<BR>>> and =
>>>>scorned.=20
>>>> When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it =
>>>><BR>>>=20
>>>> costs<BR>>> nothing<BR>>> to be a patriot." -- Mark=20
>>>> Twain<BR>>><BR>>> "History does not long entrust the =
>>>>care of=20
>>>> freedom to the weak or the<BR>>> timid."<BR>>> -- Dwight =
>>>>D.=20
>>>> Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, =
>>>>1953<BR>>><BR>>>=20
>>>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
>>>>the=20
>>>> <BR>>> brave."<BR>>> -- Ronald =
>>>>Reagan<BR>>><BR>>>=20
>>>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant,
>>> =
>>>>
>>>> the<BR>>> active,<BR>>> the brave." -- Patrick=20
>>>> Henry<BR>>><BR>>> "The land of the free will cease to be =
>>>>when=20
>>>> it's no longer the home of<BR>>> the brave."-- Rick=20
>>>> Gaber<BR>>><BR>>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal =
>>>>doesn't=20
>>>> have a heart,<BR>>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a =
>>>>conservative=20
>>>> doesn't have a brain." -- <BR>>> Winston=20
>>>> Churchill<BR>>><BR>>> Guidance,<BR>>>=20
>>>> Rich<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>=20
>>>> <BR>></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML >
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| Re: OT: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84802 is a reply to message #84793] |
Sat, 19 May 2007 00:00 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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Bill L wrote:
> It was too early when I wrote that.
>
> Look, it's a thorny issue. The point I was trying to make is I support
> the freedom of those religions that grant others the same freedom. I
> don't support freedom of a religion that is trying to curtail freedom,
> you dig?
>
> We have to take responsibility for mis-guided people just the way one
> does for a child. With a small child, you don't get angry and punish him
> or her for making a bad choice. You exert calm, confident control and
> direct it towards the right choice.
And when they get older and still have issues, you give them
"consequence" choices like shave their head or a couple swats across the
backside (creates a level of civil rest in my house).
Small children do not wield large weapons.
JH
We have to be bigger than them, and
> not react angrily to their desperate attempts to cause an effect on us.
> Think how pathetically desperate a group must be if the only way they
> can dream up to communicate is through terrorism. That is quite
> pathetic. To react to that, to conduct a "War Against Terrorism" is
> about as desperate and pathetic IMHO.
>
> And it's so uncreative and historically repetitive as to be a big dumb
> bore. Just think how much more effective and creative it would have been
> to spend a few billion dollars to simply buy access to the terrorists
> and then put them away. Very little collateral damage. The people who
> stand up for freedom by denouncing the terrorists get rich as they
> deserve for their bravery and everybody else lives happier, free-er lives.
>
> I know some will say it would never work like that, but did anyone ever
> try?
>
> Bill
>
>
> Rich Lamanna wrote:
>
>> Bill, I have no problem with freedom, you infidel :-) I am a
>> constitutionalist and believe strongly in the 1st amendment.
>> Unfortunately
>> the radical Islamic doesn't cherish those same freedoms you and I hold
>> dearly. They are willing to die to impose their fascism and intolerant
>> theocratic rubbish upon us.
>>
>> Remember Waco. The ATF, under the administration of Clinton and Janet
>> Sterno, stormed the Branch Davidian home, in Rambo fashion, to serve a
>> search warrant issued on the suspicion that the group was stockpiling
>> automatic weapons, massacring almost 100 hundred men, women, and
>> children.
>> But I doubt that the FBI or ATF would ever raid these holy men, oh God
>> no,
>> despite the fact that they are irrefutably armed to the teeth and
>> practicing
>> for violent Jihad.
>>
>> Did you read the article dude? Did you read the part about the violent
>> incidents involving Jamaat Ul Fuora in the US?
>> "By 2004 federal investigators uncovered evidence that linked both the DC
>> "sniper killer" John Allen Muhammed and "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid to the
>> group and reports surfaced that Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl
>> was captured and beheaded in the process of attempting to obtain an
>> interview with Sheikh Gilani in Pakistan."
>>
>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/paul-williams-map-larg e.jpg
>>
>> What were Koresh and the Davidians guilty of? Maybe of being Christians.
>> Nothing compared to this group. Wake up man, this is not about freedom of
>> religion this is about a Jihad threatening our existence and the
>> choice to
>> exercise any freedoms let alone freedom of religion. We had better
>> keep an
>> eye on these guys.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> From my cold dead hands - Charlton Heston
>>
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:464d8d4f@linux...
>>
>>> I strongly support freedom, especially freedom of religion. Part of
>>> religious freedom is the freedom of religious choice.
>>>
>>> A religion worthy of freedom would increase individual freedom.
>>>
>>> With freedom comes increased responsibility; with increased
>>> responsibility comes increased freedom. By increasing freedoms for all
>>> one's own freedoms are increased.
>>>
>>> “Constant and continual alertness is the price of freedom.
>>> Constant willingness to fight back is the price of freedom.
>>> There is no other price actually.”
>>> — L. RON HUBBARD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rich Lamanna wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why
>>
>> the
>>
>>>> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>>>
>>>> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>>>>
>>>> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be
>>>> vigilant in
>>
>> its
>>
>>>> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>>>
>>>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a
>>>> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>>>
>>>> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave,
>>
>> and
>>
>>>> hated
>>>> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it
>>
>> costs
>>
>>>> nothing
>>>> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>>>
>>>> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the
>>>> timid."
>>>> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>>>
>>>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the
>>
>> brave."
>>
>>>> -- Ronald Reagan
>>>>
>>>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant,
>>>> the
>>>> active,
>>>> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>>>
>>>> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home of
>>>> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>>>
>>>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>>>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain."
>>>> -- Winston Churchill
>>>>
>>>> Guidance,
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84804 is a reply to message #84772] |
Sat, 19 May 2007 02:27 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
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Rich, Deej, holy crap dudes. The policies of this administration? Are =
you seriously defending this administration? Help me! Yes, clearly the =
world so much a better place now than 6 years ago. I know I feel safer. =
Jeezus, come on!
Listen, I despise fundamentalism of any stripe, and I particularly =
despise these Islamic fundies who think they have a divine right to kill =
in the name of Allah . . . the divine right to kill people who believe =
in the same f***ing god they do! The idiots TOOK their god from the =
Christians/Jews, for God's sake. :) As far as I'm concerned these =
lunatics have a divine right to DIE, and that's it. And that goes for =
anyone else who reasons that they should kill in the name of God, Grrrr =
.. . . where's my Winchester . . .=20
However . . . BIG however . . . this is not what we're doing in Iraq, =
it's never been what we're doing in Iraq, and it's never been the reason =
we went there in the first place. And I can't believe anyone still =
believes the calculated bullshit that got us there.
Here's what I think history will tell us: this was the most corrupt and =
destructive administration in US history, and the damage they did took =
years to recover from. (I'm optimistic)
Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Naaaa! :)
S
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464ddbf0@linux...
The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far =
left in this country slag the only administration that is willing to =
fight for their right to slag the administration. The =
leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first to =
be slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the =
policies of this administration.
go figure.
;o}
"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
news:464dc9f4@linux...
Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It =
astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for =
Islamic extremist violence and fascism while at the same time condemn =
those democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the right to =
defend themselves against such attacks.
Rich
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
news:464dc442@linux...
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
news:464da14d@linux...
> Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been =
treating=20
> terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always =
been=20
> instead of as a pretense for war,=20
.........now if they would just build an asprin factory there, we =
could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the people =
there are black so this would be PC.
flourishing nests of fanatical morons like=20
> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with =
you, but I=20
> hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last =
four years=20
> has done anything but fan the flames.
>=20
there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
> Some alternative quotations:
>=20
> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
war-cry, and=20
> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open =
his mouth;=20
> and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen =
will invent=20
> cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, =
and every=20
> man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and =
will diligently=20
> study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and =
thus he will=20
> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank =
God for the=20
> better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
self-deception." -=20
> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can =
distort them as much as you please".
>=20
> "In the councils of government, we must guard against the =
acquisition of=20
> unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
> military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous =
rise of=20
> misplaced power exists and will persist.
Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in =
my life, some of which actually happened"
>=20
> We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
liberties or=20
> democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only =
an alert and=20
> knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the =
huge industrial=20
> and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and =
goals, so=20
> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
Eisenhower,=20
> 1961
Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon =
an alert and knowldegable CIA"=20
> "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great =
numbers of=20
> our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or =
are those=20
> illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? =
One thing is=20
> certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be =
allowed if it=20
> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." =
- Ronald=20
> Reagan
I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own personal =
health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle insurance is =
such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked =
living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. If =
I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I =
know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>=20
> "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a =
Frenchman; you can go=20
> to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a =
Greek, or=20
> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to =
live in=20
> America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan. =
Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra Show? How about the =
way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? Ollie North =
one of your heroes?=20
>=20
> "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to =
the manger=20
> even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do =
not admit that=20
> right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been =
done to the=20
> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do =
not admit that=20
> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a =
stronger race, a=20
> higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston =
Churchill=20
> (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative =
heart/brain=20
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112 =
)
I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find a =
way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a law that =
handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick their asses out =
of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
=20
> "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
"I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of =
intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00 to =
educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
"When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a =
disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>=20
> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. =
Eat=20
> them!" - Homer Simpson
>=20
> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from =
Simpsons=20
> episode
"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>=20
> Courage,
> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I =
would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a =
quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
;o)
>=20
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
> news:464ce932@linux...
>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the =
flames. Why=20
>> the
>> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>
>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>
>> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell =
Phillips
>>
>> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be =
vigilant in=20
>> its
>> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>
>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement =
outside a
>> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>
>> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and =
brave, and
>> hated
>> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for =
then it=20
>> costs
>> nothing
>> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>
>> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak =
or the
>> timid."
>> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>
>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
the=20
>> brave."
>> -- Ronald Reagan
>>
>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the =
vigilant, the
>> active,
>> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>
>> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the =
home of
>> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>
>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a =
brain." --=20
>> Winston Churchill
>>
>> Guidance,
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>=20
>=20
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich, Deej, holy crap dudes. The =
policies of=20
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administration? Help me! Yes, clearly the world so much a =
better=20
place now than 6 years ago. I know I feel safer. Jeezus, come=20
on!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Listen, I despise fundamentalism of any =
stripe, and=20
I particularly despise these Islamic fundies who think they have a =
divine right=20
to kill in the name of Allah . . . the divine right to kill people who =
believe=20
in the same f***ing god they do! The idiots TOOK their god from =
the=20
Christians/Jews, for God's sake. :) As far as I'm concerned =
these=20
lunatics have a divine right to DIE, and that's it. And that goes=20
for anyone else who reasons that they should kill in the name =
of=20
God, Grrrr . . . where's my Winchester . . . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However . . . BIG however . . . this is =
not what=20
we're doing in Iraq, it's never been what we're doing in Iraq, and it's =
never=20
been the reason we went there in the first place. And I can't =
believe=20
anyone still believes the calculated bullshit that got us=20
there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I think history will tell =
us: =20
this was the most corrupt and destructive administration in US history, =
and the=20
damage they did took years to recover from. (I'm =
optimistic)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just my opinion. I could be=20
wrong.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Naaaa! :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A href=3D"news:464ddbf0@linux">news:464ddbf0@linux</A>...</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The thing that has always intrigued =
me is how the=20
folks on the far left in this country slag the only administration =
that is=20
willing to fight for their right to slag the administration. The=20
leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first =
to be=20
slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the =
policies=20
of this administration.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>go figure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o}</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rich Lamanna" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net">richard.lamanna@verizon.net</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:464dc9f4@linux">news:464dc9f4@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well =
written.=20
It astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses =
for=20
Islamic extremist violence and fascism while at the same time=20
condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, =
who=20
reserve the right to defend themselves against such =
attacks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:464dc442@linux">news:464dc442@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sarah" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>>=20
wrote in message </FONT><A href=3D"news:464da14d@linux"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:464da14d@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Surely this doesn't surprise =
you . . .=20
? Perhaps if we'd been treating <BR>> terrorism as the=20
international criminal problem that it's always been <BR>> =
instead of=20
as a pretense for war, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.........now if they would just =
build an=20
asprin factory there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. =
Looks like=20
most of the people there are black so this would be =
PC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical =
morons like=20
<BR>> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the =
fire, I'm=20
with you, but I <BR>> hope you don't think what we've been =
doing in=20
Iraq for the last four years <BR>> has done anything but fan =
the=20
flames.<BR>> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are lots of flourishing =
nests of=20
fanatical morons Sarah.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D" http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp"><=
FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp</=
FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Some alternative =
quotations:<BR>>=20
<BR>> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up =
the=20
war-cry, and <BR>> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man =
who=20
ventures to open his mouth; <BR>> and presently such mouths =
will cease=20
to open. Next the statesmen will invent <BR>> cheap lies, =
putting the=20
blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every <BR>> man =
will be=20
glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently =
<BR>>=20
study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and =
thus he=20
will <BR>> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and =
will=20
thank God for the <BR>> better sleep he enjoys after this =
process of=20
grotesque self-deception." - <BR>> Mark Twain, from The =
Mysterious=20
Stranger</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "Get your =
facts first,=20
and then you can distort them as much as you please".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "In the =
councils of=20
government, we must guard against the acquisition of <BR>> =
unwarranted=20
influence, whether sought or unsought, by the <BR>> =
military-industrial=20
complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of <BR>> =
misplaced power=20
exists and will persist.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "I have been =
throught=20
some terrible things in my life, some of which actually=20
happened"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never =
let the=20
weight of this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> =
democratic=20
processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and =
<BR>>=20
knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge=20
industrial <BR>> and military machinery of defense with our =
peaceful=20
methods and goals, so <BR>> that security and liberty may =
prosper=20
together." - Dwight D. Eisenhower, <BR>> 1961</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej also said "An alert and =
knowledgable=20
citizenry depends upon an alert and knowldegable CIA" =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> "...it makes one wonder =
about the=20
illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of <BR>> our unemployed =
really=20
victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those <BR>> =
illegal=20
tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is =
<BR>> certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should =
be=20
allowed if it <BR>> results in crops rotting in the fields for =
lack of=20
harvesters." - Ronald <BR>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with this. I also think I =
should not=20
have to produce any identification, pay taxes and the ER here =
should be my=20
own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying =
vehicle=20
insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat =
either. I=20
also liked living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got =
there and=20
live. If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in =
jail.=20
If I have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me =
in=20
jail. I know these things for a fact. Pisses me=20
off.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "You can go to =
live in=20
France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go <BR>> to =
live in=20
Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or =
<BR>>=20
whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to =
live in=20
<BR>> America and become an American." - more Ronald=20
Reagan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it's sooooo cool when =
people who are=20
liberal quote Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy =
the Contra=20
Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the =
inner=20
cities? Ollie North one of your heroes? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "I do not =
agree that the=20
dog in a manger has the final right to the manger <BR>> even =
though he=20
may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that =
<BR>>=20
right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been =
done to=20
the <BR>> Red Indians of America or the black people of =
Australia. I do=20
not admit that <BR>> a wrong has been done to these people by =
the fact=20
that a stronger race, a <BR>> higher-grade race has come in and =
taken=20
their place." - Winston Churchill <BR>> (who apparently never =
said that=20
thing about liberal/conservative heart/brain <BR>> </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2> )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll bet if we just got a few =
lawyers=20
involved, they could find a way to challenge the title to this =
land, then=20
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84811 is a reply to message #84810] |
Sat, 19 May 2007 10:33 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
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Yep Don, dangerous naivety is an epidemic these days. It leads to
blindered thinking on all sides, which can lead to naive, sometimes
idiotically cocksure choices by whoever happens to be in charge. Leading
to actions that may in fact be counterproductive to the actual goals
most everyone SAYS they believe in.
But then, when a situation predictably deteriorates, the easy
rationalization is that IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. Well sure, but it
could also have been much, much better.
And this shaky rationalization, this flawed logic, this possible
delusion is sometimes used to justify continued marching, blindly, in a
wrong direction.
"Hey, let's feel good about the continued screwups because IT COULD HAVE
BEEN WORSE."
Followed by the completely irrational "In fact, we'd better KEEP
SCREWING IT UP UNTIL AT LAST WE SUCCEED!"
Go team! Over the cliff.
"Uh, OK, sure we're now falling toward the jagged rocks below, but IT
COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE!" :^)
There's probably a diagnosis for this type of rationalized psychotic
malfeasance.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DC wrote:
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, clearly the
>> world so much a better place now than 6 years ago.
> ?I know I feel safer.
>
> I edited out the hip-blasphemy bits and the issues that have been
> discussed 3000 times and everyone knows the answers to, and we
> end up with this:
>
> You assume:
>
> that we could have had a safer world when it could be much worse now
> than it is
>
> that this particular struggle can be completed in 6 years.
>
> that our enemies are amenable to any other policy than surrender
>
> that electing someone with your views would produce greater safety
>
>
> I think all these assumptions are unsupported by any reasonable view of
> the facts at hand.
>
>
> Here's you., 2 weeks after Tualitin gets hit with a dirty bomb...
>
> http://noburqua.blogspot.com/
>
> DC
Sarah wrote:
> Rich, Deej, holy crap dudes. The policies of this administration? Are
> you seriously defending this administration? Help me! Yes, clearly the
> world so much a better place now than 6 years ago. I know I feel safer.
> Jeezus, come on!
>
> Listen, I despise fundamentalism of any stripe, and I particularly
> despise these Islamic fundies who think they have a divine right to kill
> in the name of Allah . . . the divine right to kill people who believe
> in the same f***ing god they do! The idiots TOOK their god from the
> Christians/Jews, for God's sake. :) As far as I'm concerned these
> lunatics have a divine right to DIE, and that's it. And that goes
> for anyone else who reasons that they should kill in the name of
> God, Grrrr . . . where's my Winchester . . .
>
> However . . . BIG however . . . this is not what we're doing in Iraq,
> it's never been what we're doing in Iraq, and it's never been the reason
> we went there in the first place. And I can't believe anyone still
> believes the calculated bullshit that got us there.
>
> Here's what I think history will tell us: this was the most corrupt and
> destructive administration in US history, and the damage they did took
> years to recover from. (I'm optimistic)
>
> Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
>
> Naaaa! :)
>
> S
>
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>> wrote in
> message news:464ddbf0@linux...
>
> The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far
> left in this country slag the only administration that is willing to
> fight for their right to slag the administration. The
> leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first
> to be slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in
> defeating the policies of this administration.
>
> go figure.
>
> ;o}
>
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
> news:464dc9f4@linux...
> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It
> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make
> excuses for Islamic extremist violence and fascism while at the
> same time condemn those democratic and freedom loving people,
> who reserve the right to defend themselves against such attacks.
>
> Rich
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com
> <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>> wrote in message
> news:464dc442@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com
> <mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>> wrote in message
> news:464da14d@linux...
> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd
> been treating
> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's
> always been
> > instead of as a pretense for war,
>
> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory
> there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like
> most of the people there are black so this would be PC.
>
> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like
> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire,
> I'm with you, but I
> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for
> the last four years
> > has done anything but fan the flames.
> >
> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons
Sarah.
>
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>
>
> > Some alternative quotations:
> >
> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up
> the war-cry, and
> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures
> to open his mouth;
> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the
> statesmen will invent
> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is
> attacked, and every
> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities,
> and will diligently
> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of
> them; and thus he will
> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will
> thank God for the
> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque
> self-deception." -
> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>
> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can
> distort them as much as you please".
>
> >
> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against the
> acquisition of
> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the
> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the
> disastrous rise of
> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>
> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible
> things in my life, some of which actually happened"
>
> >
> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger
> our liberties or
> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted.
> Only an alert and
> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of
> the huge industrial
> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful
> methods and goals, so
> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight
> D. Eisenhower,
> > 1961
>
> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends
> upon an alert and knowldegable CIA"
>
> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are
> great numbers of
> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien
> invasion or are those
> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't
> do? One thing is
> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should
> be allowed if it
> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of
> harvesters." - Ronald
> > Reagan
>
> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce
> any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my
> own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay.
> Paying vehicle insurance is such a pain in the ass, I
> shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked living in
> Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live.
> If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in
> jail. If I have a wreck down there without insurance, they
> will throw me in jail. I know these things for a fact.
> Pisses me off.
>
> >
> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a
> Frenchman; you can go
> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a
> Turk, or a Greek, or
> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can
> come to live in
> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>
> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote
> Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra
> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in
> the inner cities? Ollie North one of your heroes?
>
> >
> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final
> right to the manger
> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time.
> I do not admit that
> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong
> has been done to the
> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia.
> I do not admit that
> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a
> stronger race, a
> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." -
> Winston Churchill
> > (who apparently never said that thing about
> liberal/conservative heart/brain
> >
>
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12 )
>
> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could
> find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we
> could pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas
> and they would kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat
> and set up a casino.
>
> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>
> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes
> of intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30
> to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America if
> they started at 6:30".-Groucho Marx
> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel
> Johnson
>
> “When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes
> a disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
> >
> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife
> and kids. Eat
> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>
>
> >
> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest
> sign from Simpsons
> > episode
>
> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>
> >
> > Courage,
> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>
> "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge
> me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and
> lead him to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
>
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12
> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
> > news:464ce932@linux...
> >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan
> the flames. Why
> >> the
> >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
> >>
> >>
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
> >>
> >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell
> Phillips
> >>
> >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless
> he be vigilant in
> >> its
> >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
> >>
> >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an
> announcement outside a
> >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
> >>
> >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce
> man, and brave, and
> >> hated
> >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join
> him, for then it
> >> costs
> >> nothing
> >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
> >>
> >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to
> the weak or the
> >> timid."
> >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan.
> 20, 1953
> >>
> >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It
> belongs to the
> >> brave."
> >> -- Ronald Reagan
> >>
> >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to
> the vigilant, the
> >> active,
> >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
> >>
> >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no
> longer the home of
> >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
> >>
> >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a
heart,
> >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't
> have a brain." --
> >> Winston Churchill
> >>
> >> Guidance,
> >> Rich
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84838 is a reply to message #84810] |
Sun, 20 May 2007 02:57 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
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Hmm . . . well, I'm not assuming any of those things that you assume I'm
assuming. You, however, may be assuming that "someone with my views" would
be "soft" on terrorism, an assumption most likely based on an erroneous
"talking points" stereotype of "liberals."
Someone with my views would attack the right people, after making damned
sure they were the right people. Someone with my views would not use the
horror of 9/11 as the "Pearl Harbor" we needed to justify a naive and just
plain disgusting plan to use military force to Americanize the Middle East.
Blah blah, yak yak. People are gonna believe what suits 'em. I'm tired of
talking about it.
(applause)
Thank you, thank you.
S
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:464f2365$1@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, clearly the
>>world so much a better place now than 6 years ago.
> ?I know I feel safer.
>
> I edited out the hip-blasphemy bits and the issues that have been
> discussed 3000 times and everyone knows the answers to, and we
> end up with this:
>
> You assume:
>
> that we could have had a safer world when it could be much worse now
> than it is
>
> that this particular struggle can be completed in 6 years.
>
> that our enemies are amenable to any other policy than surrender
>
> that electing someone with your views would produce greater safety
>
>
> I think all these assumptions are unsupported by any reasonable view of
> the facts at hand.
>
>
> Here's you., 2 weeks after Tualitin gets hit with a dirty bomb...
>
> http://noburqua.blogspot.com/
>
> DC
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84841 is a reply to message #84811] |
Sun, 20 May 2007 08:10 |
ulfiyya
Messages: 25
Registered: July 2005
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Junior Member |
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hi,
I think that you don't where you talking about
learn first the history before any comments!
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Yep Don, dangerous naivety is an epidemic these days. It leads to
>blindered thinking on all sides, which can lead to naive, sometimes
>idiotically cocksure choices by whoever happens to be in charge. Leading
>to actions that may in fact be counterproductive to the actual goals
>most everyone SAYS they believe in.
>
>But then, when a situation predictably deteriorates, the easy
>rationalization is that IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. Well sure, but it
>could also have been much, much better.
>
>And this shaky rationalization, this flawed logic, this possible
>delusion is sometimes used to justify continued marching, blindly, in a
>wrong direction.
>
>"Hey, let's feel good about the continued screwups because IT COULD HAVE
>BEEN WORSE."
>
>Followed by the completely irrational "In fact, we'd better KEEP
>SCREWING IT UP UNTIL AT LAST WE SUCCEED!"
>
>Go team! Over the cliff.
>
>"Uh, OK, sure we're now falling toward the jagged rocks below, but IT
>COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE!" :^)
>
>There's probably a diagnosis for this type of rationalized psychotic
>malfeasance.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>DC wrote:
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, clearly the
>>> world so much a better place now than 6 years ago.
>> ?I know I feel safer.
>>
>> I edited out the hip-blasphemy bits and the issues that have been
>> discussed 3000 times and everyone knows the answers to, and we
>> end up with this:
>>
>> You assume:
>>
>> that we could have had a safer world when it could be much worse now
>> than it is
>>
>> that this particular struggle can be completed in 6 years.
>>
>> that our enemies are amenable to any other policy than surrender
>>
>> that electing someone with your views would produce greater safety
>>
>>
>> I think all these assumptions are unsupported by any reasonable view of
>> the facts at hand.
>>
>>
>> Here's you., 2 weeks after Tualitin gets hit with a dirty bomb...
>>
>> http://noburqua.blogspot.com/
>>
>> DC
>
>
>Sarah wrote:
> > Rich, Deej, holy crap dudes. The policies of this administration? Are
> > you seriously defending this administration? Help me! Yes, clearly
the
> > world so much a better place now than 6 years ago. I know I feel safer.
> > Jeezus, come on!
> >
> > Listen, I despise fundamentalism of any stripe, and I particularly
> > despise these Islamic fundies who think they have a divine right to kill
> > in the name of Allah . . . the divine right to kill people who believe
> > in the same f***ing god they do! The idiots TOOK their god from the
> > Christians/Jews, for God's sake. :) As far as I'm concerned these
> > lunatics have a divine right to DIE, and that's it. And that goes
> > for anyone else who reasons that they should kill in the name of
> > God, Grrrr . . . where's my Winchester . . .
> >
> > However . . . BIG however . . . this is not what we're doing in Iraq,
> > it's never been what we're doing in Iraq, and it's never been the reason
> > we went there in the first place. And I can't believe anyone still
> > believes the calculated bullshit that got us there.
> >
> > Here's what I think history will tell us: this was the most corrupt
and
> > destructive administration in US history, and the damage they did took
> > years to recover from. (I'm optimistic)
> >
> > Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
> >
> > Naaaa! :)
> >
> > S
> >
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>> wrote
in
> > message news:464ddbf0@linux...
> >
> > The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far
> > left in this country slag the only administration that is willing
to
> > fight for their right to slag the administration. The
> > leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first
> > to be slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in
> > defeating the policies of this administration.
> >
> > go figure.
> >
> > ;o}
> >
> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
> > <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
> > news:464dc9f4@linux...
> > Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It
> > astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make
> > excuses for Islamic extremist violence and fascism while at the
> > same time condemn those democratic and freedom loving people,
> > who reserve the right to defend themselves against such attacks.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com
> > <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>> wrote in message
> > news:464dc442@linux...
> >
> > "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com
> > <mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>> wrote in message
> > news:464da14d@linux...
> > > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd
> > been treating
> > > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's
> > always been
> > > instead of as a pretense for war,
> >
> > .........now if they would just build an asprin factory
> > there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like
> > most of the people there are black so this would be PC.
> >
> > flourishing nests of fanatical morons like
> > > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire,
> > I'm with you, but I
> > > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for
> > the last four years
> > > has done anything but fan the flames.
> > >
> > there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons
>Sarah.
> >
> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
> >
> >
> > > Some alternative quotations:
> > >
> > > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take
up
> > the war-cry, and
> > > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures
> > to open his mouth;
> > > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the
> > statesmen will invent
> > > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is
> > attacked, and every
> > > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities,
> > and will diligently
> > > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of
> > them; and thus he will
> > > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will
> > thank God for the
> > > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque
> > self-deception." -
> > > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
> >
> > Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you
can
> > distort them as much as you please".
> >
> > >
> > > "In the councils of government, we must guard against
the
> > acquisition of
> > > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by
the
> > > military-industrial complex. The potential for the
> > disastrous rise of
> > > misplaced power exists and will persist.
> >
> > Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible
> > things in my life, some of which actually happened"
> >
> > >
> > > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger
> > our liberties or
> > > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted.
> > Only an alert and
> > > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing
of
> > the huge industrial
> > > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful
> > methods and goals, so
> > > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight
> > D. Eisenhower,
> > > 1961
> >
> > Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends
> > upon an alert and knowldegable CIA"
> >
> > > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss.
Are
> > great numbers of
> > > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien
> > invasion or are those
> > > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't
> > do? One thing is
> > > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should
> > be allowed if it
> > > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of
> > harvesters." - Ronald
> > > Reagan
> >
> > I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce
> > any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my
> > own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay.
> > Paying vehicle insurance is such a pain in the ass, I
> > shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked living in
> > Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live.
> > If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me
in
> > jail. If I have a wreck down there without insurance, they
> > will throw me in jail. I know these things for a fact.
> > Pisses me off.
> >
> > >
> > > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a
> > Frenchman; you can go
> > > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a
> > Turk, or a Greek, or
> > > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can
> > come to live in
> > > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
> >
> > I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote
> > Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra
> > Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine
in
> > the inner cities? Ollie North one of your heroes?
> >
> > >
> > > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final
> > right to the manger
> > > even though he may have lain there for a very long time.
> > I do not admit that
> > > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong
> > has been done to the
> > > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia.
> > I do not admit that
> > > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that
a
> > stronger race, a
> > > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place."
-
> > Winston Churchill
> > > (who apparently never said that thing about
> > liberal/conservative heart/brain
> > >
> >
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12 )
> >
> > I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could
> > find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we
> > could pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas
> > and they would kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat
> > and set up a casino.
> >
> > > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
> >
> > "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes
> > of intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30
> > to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America
if
> > they started at 6:30".-Groucho Marx
> > >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel
> > Johnson
> >
> > “When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes
> > a disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
> > >
> > > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife
> > and kids. Eat
> > > them!" - Homer Simpson
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest
> > sign from Simpsons
> > > episode
> >
> > "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
> >
> > >
> > > Courage,
> > > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
> >
> > "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge
> > me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and
> > lead him to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12
> > > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
> > <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
> > > news:464ce932@linux...
> > >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan
> > the flames. Why
> > >> the
> > >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
> > >>
> > >>
>http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
> > >>
> > >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell
> > Phillips
> > >>
> > >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless
> > he be vigilant in
> > >> its
> > >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
> > >>
> > >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an
> > announcement outside a
> > >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
> > >>
> > >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce
> > man, and brave, and
> > >> hated
> > >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join
> > him, for then it
> > >> costs
> > >> nothing
> > >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
> > >>
> > >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to
> > the weak or the
> > >> timid."
> > >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan.
> > 20, 1953
> > >>
> > >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It
> > belongs to the
> > >> brave."
> > >> -- Ronald Reagan
> > >>
> > >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to
> > the vigilant, the
> > >> active,
> > >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
> > >>
> > >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no
> > longer the home of
> > >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
> > >>
> > >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a
>heart,
> > >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't
> > have a brain." --
> > >> Winston Churchill
> > >>
> > >> Guidance,
> > >> Rich
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
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| Re: OT: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84842 is a reply to message #84730] |
Sun, 20 May 2007 08:07 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
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Senior Member |
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The first thing that must be done in handling any problem is to find the
precise source of the problem. For example if a guitar amp starts making
funny noises, find the tube that is blown and replace it. Voila,
everything sounds good again. Breaking all the tubes with hammer so you
have to take it to the shop to get them all replaced along with the
chassis and sockets is NOT the best solution.
War is the least effective, most destructive solution, and the absolute
last resort of the clever leader. It is an act of desperation. Smart and
sane people don't pick a fight to resolve differences. And frankly only
a very unwise leader attacks a country of millions to handle a very
small group with members numbering in the thousands, few of whom even
come from that country.
Let's be honest, this war is a failure as it was always bound to be. It
almost makes Bush senior look like a genius for getting the heck out
after he quieted them down.
I'm kind of amazed so many otherwise intelligent people persist in
thinking war is a solution for anything other than a last resort
defensive action.
Bill
Rich Lamanna wrote:
> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why the
> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>
> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>
> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>
> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its
> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>
> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a
> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>
> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and
> hated
> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs
> nothing
> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>
> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the
> timid."
> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>
> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the brave."
> -- Ronald Reagan
>
> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the
> active,
> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>
> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home of
> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>
> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." --
> Winston Churchill
>
> Guidance,
> Rich
>
>
>
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84845 is a reply to message #84841] |
Sun, 20 May 2007 08:45 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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Senior Member |
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Dude, whoever you are, be specific. Enlighten us all about the history
you think is missing from this thread.
It's important to be informed in order to avoid the dangerous naivety
Don and I are seeing from different perspectives. Otherwise we will
ignorantly follow any tempting, flute blowing pied piper into the sea.
I would say we are drowning in wishful naivety these days. On that much
Don and I probably agree. If you think otherwise, prove your case.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
ulfiyya wrote:
> hi,
> I think that you don't where you talking about
> learn first the history before any comments!
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Yep Don, dangerous naivety is an epidemic these days. It leads to
>> blindered thinking on all sides, which can lead to naive, sometimes
>> idiotically cocksure choices by whoever happens to be in charge. Leading
>
>> to actions that may in fact be counterproductive to the actual goals
>> most everyone SAYS they believe in.
>>
>> But then, when a situation predictably deteriorates, the easy
>> rationalization is that IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. Well sure, but it
>> could also have been much, much better.
>>
>> And this shaky rationalization, this flawed logic, this possible
>> delusion is sometimes used to justify continued marching, blindly, in a
>
>> wrong direction.
>>
>> "Hey, let's feel good about the continued screwups because IT COULD HAVE
>
>> BEEN WORSE."
>>
>> Followed by the completely irrational "In fact, we'd better KEEP
>> SCREWING IT UP UNTIL AT LAST WE SUCCEED!"
>>
>> Go team! Over the cliff.
>>
>> "Uh, OK, sure we're now falling toward the jagged rocks below, but IT
>> COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE!" :^)
>>
>> There's probably a diagnosis for this type of rationalized psychotic
>> malfeasance.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> DC wrote:
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, clearly the
>>>> world so much a better place now than 6 years ago.
>>> ?I know I feel safer.
>>>
>>> I edited out the hip-blasphemy bits and the issues that have been
>>> discussed 3000 times and everyone knows the answers to, and we
>>> end up with this:
>>>
>>> You assume:
>>>
>>> that we could have had a safer world when it could be much worse now
>>> than it is
>>>
>>> that this particular struggle can be completed in 6 years.
>>>
>>> that our enemies are amenable to any other policy than surrender
>>>
>>> that electing someone with your views would produce greater safety
>>>
>>>
>>> I think all these assumptions are unsupported by any reasonable view of
>>> the facts at hand.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's you., 2 weeks after Tualitin gets hit with a dirty bomb...
>>>
>>> http://noburqua.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> DC
>>
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> Rich, Deej, holy crap dudes. The policies of this administration? Are
>>> you seriously defending this administration? Help me! Yes, clearly
> the
>>> world so much a better place now than 6 years ago. I know I feel safer.
>>> Jeezus, come on!
>>>
>>> Listen, I despise fundamentalism of any stripe, and I particularly
>>> despise these Islamic fundies who think they have a divine right to kill
>>> in the name of Allah . . . the divine right to kill people who believe
>>> in the same f***ing god they do! The idiots TOOK their god from the
>>> Christians/Jews, for God's sake. :) As far as I'm concerned these
>>> lunatics have a divine right to DIE, and that's it. And that goes
>>> for anyone else who reasons that they should kill in the name of
>>> God, Grrrr . . . where's my Winchester . . .
>>>
>>> However . . . BIG however . . . this is not what we're doing in Iraq,
>>> it's never been what we're doing in Iraq, and it's never been the reason
>>> we went there in the first place. And I can't believe anyone still
>>> believes the calculated bullshit that got us there.
>>>
>>> Here's what I think history will tell us: this was the most corrupt
> and
>>> destructive administration in US history, and the damage they did took
>>> years to recover from. (I'm optimistic)
>>>
>>> Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
>>>
>>> Naaaa! :)
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>> wrote
> in
>>> message news:464ddbf0@linux...
>>>
>>> The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far
>>> left in this country slag the only administration that is willing
> to
>>> fight for their right to slag the administration. The
>>> leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first
>>> to be slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in
>>> defeating the policies of this administration.
>>>
>>> go figure.
>>>
>>> ;o}
>>>
>>> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
>>> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
>>> news:464dc9f4@linux...
>>> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It
>>> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make
>>> excuses for Islamic extremist violence and fascism while at the
>>> same time condemn those democratic and freedom loving people,
>>> who reserve the right to defend themselves against such attacks.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com
>>> <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>> wrote in message
>>> news:464dc442@linux...
>>>
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com
>>> <mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>> wrote in message
>>> news:464da14d@linux...
>>> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd
>>> been treating
>>> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's
>>> always been
>>> > instead of as a pretense for war,
>>>
>>> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory
>>> there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like
>>> most of the people there are black so this would be PC.
>>>
>>> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like
>>> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire,
>>> I'm with you, but I
>>> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for
>>> the last four years
>>> > has done anything but fan the flames.
>>> >
>>> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons
>> Sarah.
>> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>>>
>>> > Some alternative quotations:
>>> >
>>> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take
> up
>>> the war-cry, and
>>> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures
>>> to open his mouth;
>>> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the
>>> statesmen will invent
>>> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is
>>> attacked, and every
>>> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities,
>>> and will diligently
>>> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of
>>> them; and thus he will
>>> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will
>>> thank God for the
>>> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque
>>> self-deception." -
>>> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>>>
>>> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you
> can
>>> distort them as much as you please".
>>>
>>> >
>>> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against
> the
>>> acquisition of
>>> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by
> the
>>> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the
>>> disastrous rise of
>>> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>>>
>>> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible
>>> things in my life, some of which actually happened"
>>>
>>> >
>>> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger
>>> our liberties or
>>> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted.
>>> Only an alert and
>>> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing
> of
>>> the huge industrial
>>> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful
>>> methods and goals, so
>>> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight
>>> D. Eisenhower,
>>> > 1961
>>>
>>> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends
>>> upon an alert and knowldegable CIA"
>>>
>>> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss.
> Are
>>> great numbers of
>>> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien
>>> invasion or are those
>>> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't
>>> do? One thing is
>>> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should
>>> be allowed if it
>>> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of
>>> harvesters." - Ronald
>>> > Reagan
>>>
>>> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce
>>> any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my
>>> own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay.
>>> Paying vehicle insurance is such a pain in the ass, I
>>> shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked living in
>>> Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live.
>>> If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me
> in
>>> jail. If I have a wreck down there without insurance, they
>>> will throw me in jail. I know these things for a fact.
>>> Pisses me off.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a
>>> Frenchman; you can go
>>> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a
>>> Turk, or a Greek, or
>>> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can
>>> come to live in
>>> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>>>
>>> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote
>>> Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra
>>> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine
> in
>>> the inner cities? Ollie North one of your heroes?
>>>
>>> >
>>> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final
>>> right to the manger
>>> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time.
>>> I do not admit that
>>> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong
>>> has been done to the
>>> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia.
>>> I do not admit that
>>> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that
> a
>>> stronger race, a
>>> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place."
> -
>>> Winston Churchill
>>> > (who apparently never said that thing about
>>> liberal/conservative heart/brain
>>> >
>>>
>> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12 )
>>> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could
>>> find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we
>>> could pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas
>>> and they would kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat
>>> and set up a casino.
>>>
>>> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>>>
>>> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes
>>> of intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30
>>> to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America
> if
>>> they started at 6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel
>>> Johnson
>>>
>>> “When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes
>>> a disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>>> >
>>> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife
>>> and kids. Eat
>>> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest
>>> sign from Simpsons
>>> > episode
>>>
>>> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Courage,
>>> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>>>
>>> "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge
>>> me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and
>>> lead him to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12
>>> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
>>> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
>>> > news:464ce932@linux...
>>> >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan
>>> the flames. Why
>>> >> the
>>> >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>> >>
>>> >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell
>>> Phillips
>>> >>
>>> >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless
>>> he be vigilant in
>>> >> its
>>> >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>> >>
>>> >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an
>>> announcement outside a
>>> >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>> >>
>>> >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce
>>> man, and brave, and
>>> >> hated
>>> >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join
>>> him, for then it
>>> >> costs
>>> >> nothing
>>> >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>> >>
>>> >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to
>>> the weak or the
>>> >> timid."
>>> >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan.
>>> 20, 1953
>>> >>
>>> >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It
>>> belongs to the
>>> >> brave."
>>> >> -- Ronald Reagan
>>> >>
>>> >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to
>>> the vigilant, the
>>> >> active,
>>> >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>> >>
>>> >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no
>>> longer the home of
>>> >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>> >>
>>> >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a
>> heart,
>>> >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't
>>> have a brain." --
>>> >> Winston Churchill
>>> >>
>>> >> Guidance,
>>> >> Rich
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84850 is a reply to message #84837] |
Sun, 20 May 2007 12:02 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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I definitely believe this. The whole reason we are in Iraq and =
Afghanistan right now is because of Clinton's criminal ineptitude. You =
can be assured that I believe that clinton was, without a doubt, "^The =
worst" president in american history, bar none.
;o)
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
news:465015b5$1@linux...
Sorry, I don't believe you. I'm sure you're making a point, but I =
don't believe you really think that.
Sorry. :)
SJB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
news:464f1633@linux...
"
Here's what I think history will tell us: this was the most =
corrupt and destructive administration in US history, and the damage =
they did took years to recover from. (I'm optimistic)
Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Naaaa! :)
S
I think that theis perfectly describes the Clinton administration.
go figure......
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I definitely believe this. The whole =
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making a point, but I don't believe you really think =
that.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry. :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SJB</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I think history will =
tell=20
us: this was the most corrupt and destructive administration =
in US=20
history, and the damage they did took years to recover from. =
(I'm=20
optimistic)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just my opinion. I could be =
wrong.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Naaaa! :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that theis perfectly =
describes the=20
Clinton administration.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84851 is a reply to message #84778] |
Sun, 20 May 2007 12:50 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
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Thad,
I missed the debate, so I don't know what he said there, but I went to
his website and I found myself agreeing wholeheartedly with almost every
point he made. He has a clear opinion and doesn't hedge on saying what
he wants to do about it. That's a breath of fresh air.
Check it out. You may be surprised.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/html/Issues_fx.html
Bill L
TCB wrote:
> Yup, those wing nuts on the left. Like Ron Paul. Did you see him in the pres.
> debate? Freaking commie.
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>
>> The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far left
> =
>> in this country slag the only administration that is willing to fight =
>> for their right to slag the administration. The leftleaning/outspoken =
>> first amendment loving folks will be the first to be slaughtered by =
>> those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the policies of this
> =
>> administration.
>>
>> go figure.
>>
>> ;o}
>> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
>> news:464dc9f4@linux...
>> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It astounds
> =
>> me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for Islamic =
>> extremist violence and fascism while at the same time condemn those =
>> democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the right to defend =
>> themselves against such attacks.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
>> news:464dc442@linux...
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
>> news:464da14d@linux...
>> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been =
>> treating=20
>> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always =
>> been=20
>> > instead of as a pretense for war,=20
>>
>> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory there, we =
>> could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the people =
>> there are black so this would be PC.
>>
>> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like=20
>> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with =
>> you, but I=20
>> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last =
>> four years=20
>> > has done anything but fan the flames.
>> >=20
>> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
>> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>>
>>
>> > Some alternative quotations:
>> >=20
>> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
>> war-cry, and=20
>> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open =
>> his mouth;=20
>> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen =
>> will invent=20
>> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, =
>> and every=20
>> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will
> =
>> diligently=20
>> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and =
>> thus he will=20
>> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank =
>> God for the=20
>> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
>> self-deception." -=20
>> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>>
>> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort
> =
>> them as much as you please".
>>
>> >=20
>> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against the =
>> acquisition of=20
>> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
>> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise
> =
>> of=20
>> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>>
>> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in =
>> my life, some of which actually happened"
>>
>> >=20
>> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
>> liberties or=20
>> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an
> =
>> alert and=20
>> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge
> =
>> industrial=20
>> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and =
>> goals, so=20
>> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
>> Eisenhower,=20
>> > 1961
>>
>> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon an
> =
>> alert and knowldegable CIA"=20
>>
>> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great =
>> numbers of=20
>> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are
> =
>> those=20
>> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One
> =
>> thing is=20
>> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be =
>> allowed if it=20
>> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." -
> =
>> Ronald=20
>> > Reagan
>>
>> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
>> identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own personal =
>> health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle insurance is
> =
>> such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked
> =
>> living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. If
> =
>> I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
>> have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I
> =
>> know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>>
>> >=20
>> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman;
> =
>> you can go=20
>> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a =
>> Greek, or=20
>> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to =
>> live in=20
>> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>>
>> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan. =
>> Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra Show? How about the
> =
>> way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? Ollie North =
>> one of your heroes?=20
>>
>> >=20
>> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to =
>> the manger=20
>> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not
> =
>> admit that=20
>> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been =
>> done to the=20
>> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not
> =
>> admit that=20
>> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger
> =
>> race, a=20
>> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston =
>> Churchill=20
>> > (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative =
>> heart/brain=20
>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112 )
>>
>> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find a =
>> way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a law that =
>> handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick their asses out
> =
>> of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
>> =20
>> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>>
>> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of =
>> intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00 to =
>> educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
>> 6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>
>> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
>>
>> "When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a =
>> disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>> >=20
>> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. =
>> Eat=20
>> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>>
>>
>> >=20
>> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from =
>> Simpsons=20
>> > episode
>>
>> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>>
>> >=20
>> > Courage,
>> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>>
>> "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I =
>> would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a =
>> quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >=20
>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
>> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
>> > news:464ce932@linux...
>> >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the =
>> flames. Why=20
>> >> the
>> >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>> >>
>> >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>> >>
>> >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be =
>> vigilant in=20
>> >> its
>> >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>> >>
>> >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement =
>> outside a
>> >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>> >>
>> >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and =
>> brave, and
>> >> hated
>> >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for =
>> then it=20
>> >> costs
>> >> nothing
>> >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>> >>
>> >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or
> =
>> the
>> >> timid."
>> >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>> >>
>> >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
>> the=20
>> >> brave."
>> >> -- Ronald Reagan
>> >>
>> >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the =
>> vigilant, the
>> >> active,
>> >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>> >>
>> >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the =
>> home of
>> >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>> >>
>> >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>> >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a =
>> brain." --=20
>> >> Winston Churchill
>> >>
>> >> Guidance,
>> >> Rich
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>=20
>> >=20
>> >
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>> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The thing that has always intrigued me
> =
>> is how the=20
>> folks on the far left in this country slag the only administration that
> =
>> is=20
>> willing to fight for their right to slag the administration. The=20
>> leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first to
> =
>> be=20
>> slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the =
>> policies=20
>> of this administration.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>go figure.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o}</FONT></DIV>
>> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Rich Lamanna" <<A=20
>> =
>> href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net">richard.lamanna@verizon.net</=
>> A>>=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>> href=3D"news:464dc9f4@linux">news:464dc9f4@linux</A>...</DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well =
>> written. It=20
>> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for
> =
>> Islamic=20
>> extremist violence and fascism while at the same time=20
>> condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, who =
>> reserve=20
>> the right to defend themselves against such attacks.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT><BR></DIV>
>> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>> =
>> href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
>> wrote=20
>> in message <A =
>> href=3D"news:464dc442@linux">news:464dc442@linux</A>...</DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sarah" <</FONT><A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> size=3D2>sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
>> size=3D2>> wrote=20
>> in message </FONT><A href=3D"news:464da14d@linux"><FONT face=3DArial
> =
>> size=3D2>news:464da14d@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Surely this doesn't surprise =
>> you . . .=20
>> ? Perhaps if we'd been treating <BR>> terrorism as the=20
>> international criminal problem that it's always been <BR>> =
>> instead of as=20
>> a pretense for war, </FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.........now if they would just =
>> build an asprin=20
>> factory there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like =
>> most of=20
>> the people there are black so this would be PC.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical =
>> morons like=20
>> <BR>> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, =
>> I'm=20
>> with you, but I <BR>> hope you don't think what we've been doing =
>> in Iraq=20
>> for the last four years <BR>> has done anything but fan the=20
>> flames.<BR>> </FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are lots of flourishing nests
> =
>> of=20
>> fanatical morons Sarah.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><A=20
>> =
>> href=3D" http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp"><=
>> FONT=20
>> face=3DArial=20
>> =
>> size=3D2> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp</=
>> FONT></A></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Some alternative =
>> quotations:<BR>>=20
>> <BR>> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up =
>> the=20
>> war-cry, and <BR>> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man =
>> who=20
>> ventures to open his mouth; <BR>> and presently such mouths will =
>> cease to=20
>> open. Next the statesmen will invent <BR>> cheap lies, putting =
>> the blame=20
>> upon the nation that is attacked, and every <BR>> man will be =
>> glad of=20
>> those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently <BR>> =
>> study=20
>> them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he =
>> will=20
>> <BR>> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will =
>> thank God=20
>> for the <BR>> better sleep he enjoys after this process of =
>> grotesque=20
>> self-deception." - <BR>> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious=20
>> Stranger</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "Get your =
>> facts first, and=20
>> then you can distort them as much as you please".</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "In the councils =
>> of=20
>> government, we must guard against the acquisition of <BR>> =
>> unwarranted=20
>> influence, whether sought or unsought, by the <BR>> =
>> military-industrial=20
>> complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of <BR>> misplaced =
>> power=20
>> exists and will persist.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "I have been =
>> throught some=20
>> terrible things in my life, some of which actually =
>> happened"</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never let =
>> the weight=20
>> of this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> democratic =
>> processes.=20
>> We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and <BR>> =
>> knowledgeable=20
>> citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial =
>> <BR>> and=20
>> military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, =
>> so=20
>> <BR>> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight =
>> D.=20
>> Eisenhower, <BR>> 1961</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej also said "An alert and =
>> knowledgable=20
>> citizenry depends upon an alert and knowldegable CIA" </FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> "...it makes one wonder =
>> about the=20
>> illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of <BR>> our unemployed =
>> really=20
>> victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those <BR>> illegal =
>> tourists=20
>> actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is <BR>> =
>> certain=20
>> in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it =
>> <BR>>=20
>> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - =
>> Ronald=20
>> <BR>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with this. I also think I =
>> should not=20
>> have to produce any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should
> =
>> be my=20
>> own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying =
>> vehicle=20
>> insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat =
>> either. I=20
>> also liked living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got =
>> there and=20
>> live. If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in =
>> jail. If=20
>> I have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in =
>> jail. I=20
>> know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "You can go to =
>> live in=20
>> France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go <BR>> to =
>> live in=20
>> Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or =
>> <BR>>=20
>> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live
> =
>> in=20
>> <BR>> America and become an American." - more Ronald =
>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it's sooooo cool when =
>> people who are=20
>> liberal quote Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the
> =
>> Contra=20
>> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the =
>> inner=20
>> cities? Ollie North one of your heroes? </FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "I do not agree =
>> that the dog=20
>> in a manger has the final right to the manger <BR>> even though =
>> he may=20
>> have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that <BR>> =
>> right. I=20
>> do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the =
>> <BR>>=20
>> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not =
>> admit that=20
>> <BR>> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a =
>> stronger=20
>> race, a <BR>> higher-grade race has come in and taken their =
>> place." -=20
>> Winston Churchill <BR>> (who apparently never said that thing =
>> about=20
>> liberal/conservative heart/brain <BR>> </FONT><A=20
>> =
>> href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
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>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll bet if we just got a few =
>> lawyers involved,=20
>> they could find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we =
>> could=20
>> pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they =
>> would=20
>> kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a=20
>> casino.<BR> <BR>> "Religion poisons everything." - =
>> Christopher=20
>> Hitchens</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I read in the newspapers they are
> =
>> going to=20
>> have 30 minutes of intellectual stuff on television every Monday =
>>from 7.30=20
>> to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they =
>> started at=20
>> 6:30".-Groucho Marx<BR></FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>>Patriotism is the last =
>> refuge of a=20
>> scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT size=3D+0>=93When we have lost everything, including =
>> hope, life=20
>> becomes a disgrace, and death a duty."-</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>> size=3D2><FONT=20
>> face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>W.C.
> =
>> Fields</FONT></FONT><BR>> <BR>> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! =
>> Don't eat=20
>> me! I have a wife and kids. Eat <BR>> them!" - Homer =
>> Simpson</DIV>
>> <DIV> </DIV>
>> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant =
>> protest=20
>> sign from Simpsons <BR>> episode</DIV>
>> <DIV> </DIV>
>> <DIV>"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.<BR><BR>> =
>>
>> <BR>> Courage,<BR>> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . .=20
>> )</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I thoroughly disapprove of duels.
> =
>> If a man=20
>> should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the
> =
>> hand and=20
>> lead him to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
>> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> </FONT><A=20
>> =
>> href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
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>> </FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
>> face=3DArial size=3D2>> "Rich Lamanna" <</FONT><A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> size=3D2>richard.lamanna@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
>> size=3D2>>=20
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>> href=3D"news:464ce932@linux"><FONT=20
>> face=3DArial size=3D2>news:464ce932@linux</FONT></A><FONT =
>> face=3DArial=20
>> size=3D2>...<BR>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you =
>> can all=20
>> fan the flames. Why <BR>>> the<BR>>> heck not welcome =
>> some more=20
>> illegals.<BR>>><BR>>> </FONT><A=20
>> =
>> href=3D"http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm"><FON=
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>> face=3DArial=20
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>> size=3D2>http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm</FON=
>> T></A><BR><FONT=20
>> face=3DArial size=3D2>>><BR>>> "Eternal vigilance is the =
>> price of=20
>> liberty." -- Wendell Phillips<BR>>><BR>>> "No man is =
>> entitled to=20
>> the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in <BR>>>=20
>> its<BR>>> preservation." -- General Douglas=20
>> MacArthur<BR>>><BR>>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- =
>> posted=20
>> as an announcement outside a<BR>>> Unitarian Church in Texas =
>> on Sept.=20
>> 17, 2001<BR>>><BR>>> "In the beginning of a change the =
>> patriot=20
>> is a scarce man, and brave, and<BR>>> hated<BR>>> and =
>> scorned.=20
>> When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it =
>> <BR>>>=20
>> costs<BR>>> nothing<BR>>> to be a patriot." -- Mark=20
>> Twain<BR>>><BR>>> "History does not long entrust the =
>> care of=20
>> freedom to the weak or the<BR>>> timid."<BR>>> -- Dwight =
>> D.=20
>> Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, =
>> 1953<BR>>><BR>>>=20
>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
>> the=20
>> <BR>>> brave."<BR>>> -- Ronald =
>> Reagan<BR>>><BR>>>=20
>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant,
> =
>> the<BR>>> active,<BR>>> the brave." -- Patrick=20
>> Henry<BR>>><BR>>> "The land of the free will cease to be =
>> when=20
>> it's no longer the home of<BR>>> the brave."-- Rick=20
>> Gaber<BR>>><BR>>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal =
>> doesn't=20
>> have a heart,<BR>>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a =
>> conservative=20
>> doesn't have a brain." -- <BR>>> Winston=20
>> Churchill<BR>>><BR>>> Guidance,<BR>>>=20
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| Re: Springtime in Islamberg. [message #84852 is a reply to message #84851] |
Sun, 20 May 2007 12:56 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Now Bill........god forbid we should get someone in office who won't sugar
coat things....we need to feel good about ourselves
;o)
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:4650a7f9@linux...
> Thad,
>
> I missed the debate, so I don't know what he said there, but I went to his
> website and I found myself agreeing wholeheartedly with almost every point
> he made. He has a clear opinion and doesn't hedge on saying what he wants
> to do about it. That's a breath of fresh air.
>
> Check it out. You may be surprised.
> http://www.ronpaul2008.com/html/Issues_fx.html
>
> Bill L
>
> TCB wrote:
>> Yup, those wing nuts on the left. Like Ron Paul. Did you see him in the
>> pres.
>> debate? Freaking commie. TCB
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far left
>> =
>>> in this country slag the only administration that is willing to fight =
>>> for their right to slag the administration. The leftleaning/outspoken =
>>> first amendment loving folks will be the first to be slaughtered by =
>>> those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the policies of this
>> =
>>> administration.
>>>
>>> go figure.
>>>
>>> ;o}
>>> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
>>> news:464dc9f4@linux...
>>> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It astounds
>> =
>>> me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for Islamic =
>>> extremist violence and fascism while at the same time condemn those =
>>> democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the right to defend =
>>> themselves against such attacks.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
>>> news:464dc442@linux...
>>>
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
>>> news:464da14d@linux...
>>> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been =
>>> treating=20
>>> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always =
>>> been=20
>>> > instead of as a pretense for war,=20
>>>
>>> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory there, we =
>>> could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the people =
>>> there are black so this would be PC.
>>>
>>> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like=20
>>> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with =
>>> you, but I=20
>>> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last =
>>> four years=20
>>> > has done anything but fan the flames.
>>> >=20
>>> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
>>> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>>>
>>>
>>> > Some alternative quotations:
>>> >=20
>>> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
>>> war-cry, and=20
>>> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open =
>>> his mouth;=20
>>> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen =
>>> will invent=20
>>> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, =
>>> and every=20
>>> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will
>> =
>>> diligently=20
>>> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and =
>>> thus he will=20
>>> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank =
>>> God for the=20
>>> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
>>> self-deception." -=20
>>> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>>>
>>> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort
>> =
>>> them as much as you please".
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against the =
>>> acquisition of=20
>>> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
>>> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise
>> =
>>> of=20
>>> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>>>
>>> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in =
>>> my life, some of which actually happened"
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
>>> liberties or=20
>>> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an
>> =
>>> alert and=20
>>> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge
>> =
>>> industrial=20
>>> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and =
>>> goals, so=20
>>> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
>>> Eisenhower,=20
>>> > 1961
>>>
>>> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon an
>> =
>>> alert and knowldegable CIA"=20
>>>
>>> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great =
>>> numbers of=20
>>> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are
>> =
>>> those=20
>>> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One
>> =
>>> thing is=20
>>> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be =
>>> allowed if it=20
>>> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." -
>> =
>>> Ronald=20
>>> > Reagan
>>>
>>> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
>>> identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own personal =
>>> health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle insurance is
>> =
>>> such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked
>> =
>>> living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. If
>> =
>>> I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
>>> have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I
>> =
>>> know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman;
>> =
>>> you can go=20
>>> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a =
>>> Greek, or=20
>>> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to =
>>> live in=20
>>> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>>>
>>> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan. =
>>> Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra Show? How about the
>> =
>>> way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? Ollie North =
>>> one of your heroes?=20
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to =
>>> the manger=20
>>> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not
>> =
>>> admit that=20
>>> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been =
>>> done to the=20
>>> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not
>> =
>>> admit that=20
>>> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger
>> =
>>> race, a=20
>>> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston =
>>> Churchill=20
>>> > (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative =
>>> heart/brain=20
>>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112 )
>>>
>>> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find a =
>>> way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a law that =
>>> handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick their asses out
>> =
>>> of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
>>> =20
>>> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>>>
>>> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of =
>>> intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00 to =
>>> educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
>>> 6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>>
>>> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
>>>
>>> "When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a =
>>> disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>>> >=20
>>> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. =
>>> Eat=20
>>> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>>>
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from =
>>> Simpsons=20
>>> > episode
>>>
>>> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > Courage,
>>> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>>>
>>> "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I =
>>> would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a =
>>> quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >=20
>>> > http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
>>> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
>>> > news:464ce932@linux...
>>> >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the =
>>> flames. Why=20
>>> >> the
>>> >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>> >>
>>> >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>>> >>
>>> >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be =
>>> vigilant in=20
>>> >> its
>>> >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>> >>
>>> >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement =
>>> outside a
>>> >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>> >>
>>> >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and =
>>> brave, and
>>> >> hated
>>> >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for =
>>> then it=20
>>> >> costs
>>> >> nothing
>>> >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>> >>
>>> >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or
>> =
>>> the
>>> >> timid."
>>> >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>> >>
>>> >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
>>> the=20
>>> >> brave."
>>> >> -- Ronald Reagan
>>> >>
>>> >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the =
>>> vigilant, the
>>> >> active,
>>> >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>> >>
>>> >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the =
>>> home of
>>> >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>> >>
>>> >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>>> >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a =
>>> brain." --=20
>>> >> Winston Churchill
>>> >>
>>> >> Guidance,
>>> >> Rich
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>=20
>>> >=20
>>> >
>>>
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>>> <HTML><HEAD>
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>>> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The thing that has always intrigued me
>> =
>>> is how the=20
>>> folks on the far left in this country slag the only administration that
>> =
>>> is=20
>>> willing to fight for their right to slag the administration. The=20
>>> leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first to
>> =
>>> be=20
>>> slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the =
>>> policies=20
>>> of this administration.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>go figure.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o}</FONT></DIV>
>>> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"Rich Lamanna" <<A=20
>>> =
>>> href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net">richard.lamanna@verizon.net</=
>>> A>>=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>> href=3D"news:464dc9f4@linux">news:464dc9f4@linux</A>...</DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well =
>>> written. It=20
>>> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for
>> =
>>> Islamic=20
>>> extremist violence and fascism while at the same time=20
>>> condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, who =
>>> reserve=20
>>> the right to defend themselves against such attacks.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT><BR></DIV>
>>> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>>> =
>>> href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
>>> wrote=20
>>> in message <A =
>>> href=3D"news:464dc442@linux">news:464dc442@linux</A>...</DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sarah" <</FONT><A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
>>> size=3D2>> wrote=20
>>> in message </FONT><A href=3D"news:464da14d@linux"><FONT face=3DArial
>> =
>>> size=3D2>news:464da14d@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Surely this doesn't surprise =
>>> you . . .=20
>>> ? Perhaps if we'd been treating <BR>> terrorism as the=20
>>> international criminal problem that it's always been <BR>> =
>>> instead of as=20
>>> a pretense for war, </FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.........now if they would just =
>>> build an asprin=20
>>> factory there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like =
>>> most of=20
>>> the people there are black so this would be PC.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical =
>>> morons like=20
>>> <BR>> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, =
>>> I'm=20
>>> with you, but I <BR>> hope you don't think what we've been doing =
>>> in Iraq=20
>>> for the last four years <BR>> has done anything but fan the=20
>>> flames.<BR>> </FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are lots of flourishing nests
>> =
>>> of=20
>>> fanatical morons Sarah.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><A=20
>>> =
>>> href=3D" http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp"><=
>>> FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> =
>>> size=3D2> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp</=
>>> FONT></A></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Some alternative =
>>> quotations:<BR>>=20
>>> <BR>> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up =
>>> the=20
>>> war-cry, and <BR>> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man =
>>> who=20
>>> ventures to open his mouth; <BR>> and presently such mouths will =
>>> cease to=20
>>> open. Next the statesmen will invent <BR>> cheap lies, putting =
>>> the blame=20
>>> upon the nation that is attacked, and every <BR>> man will be =
>>> glad of=20
>>> those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently <BR>> =
>>> study=20
>>> them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he =
>>> will=20
>>> <BR>> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will =
>>> thank God=20
>>> for the <BR>> better sleep he enjoys after this process of =
>>> grotesque=20
>>> self-deception." - <BR>> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious=20
>>> Stranger</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "Get your =
>>> facts first, and=20
>>> then you can distort them as much as you please".</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "In the councils =
>>> of=20
>>> government, we must guard against the acquisition of <BR>> =
>>> unwarranted=20
>>> influence, whether sought or unsought, by the <BR>> =
>>> military-industrial=20
>>> complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of <BR>> misplaced =
>>> power=20
>>> exists and will persist.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "I have been =
>>> throught some=20
>>> terrible things in my life, some of which actually =
>>> happened"</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never let =
>>> the weight=20
>>> of this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> democratic =
>>> processes.=20
>>> We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and <BR>> =
>>> knowledgeable=20
>>> citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial =
>>> <BR>> and=20
>>> military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, =
>>> so=20
>>> <BR>> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight =
>>> D.=20
>>> Eisenhower, <BR>> 1961</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej also said "An alert and =
>>> knowledgable=20
>>> citizenry depends upon an alert and knowldegable CIA" </FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> "...it makes one wonder =
>>> about the=20
>>> illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of <BR>> our unemployed =
>>> really=20
>>> victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those <BR>> illegal =
>>> tourists=20
>>> actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is <BR>> =
>>> certain=20
>>> in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it =
>>> <BR>>=20
>>> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - =
>>> Ronald=20
>>> <BR>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with this. I also think I =
>>> should not=20
>>> have to produce any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should
>> =
>>> be my=20
>>> own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying =
>>> vehicle=20
>>> insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat =
>>> either. I=20
>>> also liked living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got =
>>> there and=20
>>> live. If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in =
>>> jail. If=20
>>> I have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in =
>>> jail. I=20
>>> know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "You can go to =
>>> live in=20
>>> France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go <BR>> to =
>>> live in=20
>>> Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or =
>>> <BR>>=20
>>> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live
>> =
>>> in=20
>>> <BR>> America and become an American." - more Ronald =
>>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it's sooooo cool when =
>>> people who are=20
>>> liberal quote Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the
>> =
>>> Contra=20
>>> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the =
>>> inner=20
>>> cities? Ollie North one of your heroes? </FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "I do not agree =
>>> that the dog=20
>>> in a manger has the final right to the manger <BR>> even though =
>>> he may=20
>>> have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that <BR>> =
>>> right. I=20
>>> do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the =
>>> <BR>>=20
>>> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not =
>>> admit that=20
>>> <BR>> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a =
>>> stronger=20
>>> race, a <BR>> higher-grade race has come in and taken their =
>>> place." -=20
>>> Winston Churchill <BR>> (who apparently never said that thing =
>>> about=20
>>> liberal/conservative heart/brain <BR>> </FONT><A=20
>>> =
>>> href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
>>>> <FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> =
>>> size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
>>> </FONT></A><FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial size=3D2> )</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll bet if we just got a few =
>>> lawyers involved,=20
>>> they could find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we =
>>> could=20
>>> pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they =
>>> would=20
>>> kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a=20
>>> casino.<BR> <BR>> "Religion poisons everything." - =
>>> Christopher=20
>>> Hitchens</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I read in the newspapers they are
>> =
>>> going to=20
>>> have 30 minutes of intellectual stuff on television every Monday =
>>>from 7.30=20
>>> to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they =
>>> started at=20
>>> 6:30".-Groucho Marx<BR></FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>>Patriotism is the last =
>>> refuge of a=20
>>> scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D+0>=93When we have lost everything, including =
>>> hope, life=20
>>> becomes a disgrace, and death a duty."-</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>>> size=3D2><FONT=20
>>> face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>W.C.
>> =
>>> Fields</FONT></FONT><BR>> <BR>> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! =
>>> Don't eat=20
>>> me! I have a wife and kids. Eat <BR>> them!" - Homer =
>>> Simpson</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant =
>>> protest=20
>>> sign from Simpsons <BR>> episode</DIV>
>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>> <DIV>"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.<BR><BR>> =
>>>
>>> <BR>> Courage,<BR>> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . .=20
>>> )</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I thoroughly disapprove of duels.
>> =
>>> If a man=20
>>> should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the
>> =
>>> hand and=20
>>> lead him to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> </FONT><A=20
>>> =
>>> href=3D" http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112"=
>>>> <FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> =
>>> size=3D2> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112=
>>> </FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>> "Rich Lamanna" <</FONT><A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>richard.lamanna@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
>>> size=3D2>>=20
>>> wrote in message <BR>> </FONT><A =
>>> href=3D"news:464ce932@linux"><FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>news:464ce932@linux</FONT></A><FONT =
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>...<BR>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you =
>>> can all=20
>>> fan the flames. Why <BR>>> the<BR>>> heck not welcome =
>>> some more=20
>>> illegals.<BR>>><BR>>> </FONT><A=20
>>> =
>>> href=3D"http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm"><FON=
>>> T=20
>>> face=3DArial=20
>>> =
>>> size=3D2>http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm</FON=
>>> T></A><BR><FONT=20
>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>>><BR>>> "Eternal vigilance is the =
>>> price of=20
>>> liberty." -- Wendell Phillips<BR>>><BR>>> "No man is =
>>> entitled to=20
>>> the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in <BR>>>=20
>>> its<BR>>> preservation." -- General Douglas=20
>>> MacArthur<BR>>><BR>>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- =
>>> posted=20
>>> as an announcement outside a<BR>>> Unitarian Church in Texas =
>>> on Sept.=20
>>> 17, 2001<BR>>><BR>>> "In the beginning of a change the =
>>> patriot=20
>>> is a scarce man, and brave, and<BR>>> hated<BR>>> and =
>>> scorned.=20
>>> When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it =
>>> <BR>>>=20
>>> costs<BR>>> nothing<BR>>> to be a patriot." -- Mark=20
>>> Twain<BR>>><BR>>> "History does not long entrust the =
>>> care of=20
>>> freedom to the weak or the<BR>>> timid."<BR>>> -- Dwight =
>>> D.=20
>>> Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, =
>>> 1953<BR>>><BR>>>=20
>>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
>>> the=20
>>> <BR>>> brave."<BR>>> -- Ronald =
>>> Reagan<BR>>><BR>>>=20
>>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant,
>> =
>>> the<BR>>> active,<BR>>> the brave." -- Patrick=20
>>> Henry<BR>>><BR>>> "The land of the free will cease to be =
>>> when=20
>>> it's no longer the home of<BR>>> the brave."-- Rick=20
>>> Gaber<BR>>><BR>>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal =
>>> doesn't=20
>>> have a heart,<BR>>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a =
>>> conservative=20
>>> doesn't have a brain." -- <BR>>> Winston=20
>>> Churchill<BR>>><BR>>> Guidance,<BR>>>=20
>>> Rich<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>=20
>>> <BR>></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML >
>>>
>>>
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