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| Re: Pci-e FW card for mac... [message #98086 is a reply to message #98080] |
Sat, 19 April 2008 19:41   |
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That's strange. I've had three to five external drives (currently 1x120, 2x160
and 1x230) and a DVD burner constantly hung off the internal FW of my dual
G5 for two years now (plus a 160 and a 320 internally and a 500 in a USB2.0
cradle). Maybe I'm missing something - what are the symptoms of it misbehaving?
rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>macs don't like multiple connections using their on board fw. i
>already have the pci/firewire for the ad/da and one audio drive and i
>need connections for more portability. i'll also be adding a sata
>drive internally.
>
>i've looked at SIIG and Synchrotech but will pass on lacie stuff.
>
>On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:22:45 -0700, Kerry Galloway
><kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>
>>I don't have any experience with the PCI-e ones; what's up? Is your onboard
>>FW dead, or are you just looking for more outputs?
>>
>>- K
>>
>>
>>On 4/17/08 3:30 AM, in article ag9e049j8d37t090dn929o1hbih4m08u9f@4ax.com,
>>"rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> what's good out there?
>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Pci-e FW card for mac... [message #98123 is a reply to message #98103] |
Tue, 22 April 2008 01:17 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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that is so true of macs...the errors or bugs are so inconsistent it
makes me laugh at there ads about not knowing what you'll get when you
buy a pc... especially with the mac version of vista in leopard.
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:32:22 -0400, Chris Ludwig
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Rick,
> G5 and Intel based Macs have all went through many variations. The behavior of firewire devices varied almost as much. \
>There were some pretty major changes amongst the G5 models along when it came the hardware.
>Kerry luckily is using one that doesn't have any issues.
>
>We have had good luck with the Siig cards on both Mac and PC.
>It is best not to get a combo 800/400 or a 400/usb card. Just get a 400 only. The TI chips used are different than the ones on the combo cards.
>The one that Kim pointed out is a good choice.
>You should pick up a 4pin power extension to use with the Y-Splitter the card comes with.
>The card does need to have the power hooked up.
>The only 4pin (IDE drive) power connection is located up in the section with the CDrom drive so it's a long run.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>rick wrote:
>> the old drive too slow prompt when two external drives are connected.
>> with only one drive connected the same song plays through without
>> problems; not so with two connected playing the same song off either
>> drive.
>>
>> On 20 Apr 2008 12:41:13 +1000, "kerry g" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That's strange. I've had three to five external drives (currently 1x120, 2x160
>>> and 1x230) and a DVD burner constantly hung off the internal FW of my dual
>>> G5 for two years now (plus a 160 and a 320 internally and a 500 in a USB2.0
>>> cradle). Maybe I'm missing something - what are the symptoms of it misbehaving?
>>>
>>> rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> macs don't like multiple connections using their on board fw. i
>>>> already have the pci/firewire for the ad/da and one audio drive and i
>>>> need connections for more portability. i'll also be adding a sata
>>>> drive internally.
>>>>
>>>> i've looked at SIIG and Synchrotech but will pass on lacie stuff.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:22:45 -0700, Kerry Galloway
>>>> <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any experience with the PCI-e ones; what's up? Is your onboard
>>>>> FW dead, or are you just looking for more outputs?
>>>>>
>>>>> - K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/17/08 3:30 AM, in article ag9e049j8d37t090dn929o1hbih4m08u9f@4ax.com,
>>>>> "rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> what's good out there?
>>
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| Re: Pci-e FW card for mac... [message #98131 is a reply to message #98123] |
Tue, 22 April 2008 09:43 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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I've had just the opposite experience, all my Macs work. I've never had a
problem with FireWire on any of my macs, and I own a lot of them. It sounds
like they switched chip set manufacturers along the way but they are back
to TI chip sets.
rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>that is so true of macs...the errors or bugs are so inconsistent it
>makes me laugh at there ads about not knowing what you'll get when you
>buy a pc... especially with the mac version of vista in leopard.
>
>On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:32:22 -0400, Chris Ludwig
><chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi Rick,
>> G5 and Intel based Macs have all went through many variations. The behavior
of firewire
>devices varied almost as much. \
>>There were some pretty major changes amongst the G5 models along when it
came the hardware.
>>Kerry luckily is using one that doesn't have any issues.
>>
>>We have had good luck with the Siig cards on both Mac and PC.
>>It is best not to get a combo 800/400 or a 400/usb card. Just get a 400
only. The TI
>chips used are different than the ones on the combo cards.
>>The one that Kim pointed out is a good choice.
>>You should pick up a 4pin power extension to use with the Y-Splitter the
card comes
>with.
>>The card does need to have the power hooked up.
>>The only 4pin (IDE drive) power connection is located up in the section
with the CDrom
>drive so it's a long run.
>>
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>rick wrote:
>>> the old drive too slow prompt when two external drives are connected.
>>> with only one drive connected the same song plays through without
>>> problems; not so with two connected playing the same song off either
>>> drive.
>>>
>>> On 20 Apr 2008 12:41:13 +1000, "kerry g" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's strange. I've had three to five external drives (currently 1x120,
2x160
>>>> and 1x230) and a DVD burner constantly hung off the internal FW of my
dual
>>>> G5 for two years now (plus a 160 and a 320 internally and a 500 in a
USB2.0
>>>> cradle). Maybe I'm missing something - what are the symptoms of it misbehaving?
>>>>
>>>> rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> macs don't like multiple connections using their on board fw. i
>>>>> already have the pci/firewire for the ad/da and one audio drive and
i
>>>>> need connections for more portability. i'll also be adding a sata
>>>>> drive internally.
>>>>>
>>>>> i've looked at SIIG and Synchrotech but will pass on lacie stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:22:45 -0700, Kerry Galloway
>>>>> <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have any experience with the PCI-e ones; what's up? Is your
onboard
>>>>>> FW dead, or are you just looking for more outputs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/17/08 3:30 AM, in article ag9e049j8d37t090dn929o1hbih4m08u9f@4ax.com,
>>>>>> "rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what's good out there?
>>>
>
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| Re: Pci-e FW card for mac... [message #98147 is a reply to message #98131] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 02:17 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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one friends family has 6 macs, all purchased at different times in the
past 15 months and none work the same. the only one that seems to be
working best is the newest 24" imac. his quad core in the studio can
only run logic pro 8 on 10.4...but definitely not 10.5. he of course
is one of those who in spite of warnings not updates every time the
pope sneezes.
On 23 Apr 2008 02:43:30 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I've had just the opposite experience, all my Macs work. I've never had a
>problem with FireWire on any of my macs, and I own a lot of them. It sounds
>like they switched chip set manufacturers along the way but they are back
>to TI chip sets.
>
>rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>that is so true of macs...the errors or bugs are so inconsistent it
>>makes me laugh at there ads about not knowing what you'll get when you
>>buy a pc... especially with the mac version of vista in leopard.
>>
>>On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:32:22 -0400, Chris Ludwig
>><chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Rick,
>>> G5 and Intel based Macs have all went through many variations. The behavior
>of firewire
>>devices varied almost as much. \
>>>There were some pretty major changes amongst the G5 models along when it
>came the hardware.
>>>Kerry luckily is using one that doesn't have any issues.
>>>
>>>We have had good luck with the Siig cards on both Mac and PC.
>>>It is best not to get a combo 800/400 or a 400/usb card. Just get a 400
>only. The TI
>>chips used are different than the ones on the combo cards.
>>>The one that Kim pointed out is a good choice.
>>>You should pick up a 4pin power extension to use with the Y-Splitter the
>card comes
>>with.
>>>The card does need to have the power hooked up.
>>>The only 4pin (IDE drive) power connection is located up in the section
>with the CDrom
>>drive so it's a long run.
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>rick wrote:
>>>> the old drive too slow prompt when two external drives are connected.
>>>> with only one drive connected the same song plays through without
>>>> problems; not so with two connected playing the same song off either
>>>> drive.
>>>>
>>>> On 20 Apr 2008 12:41:13 +1000, "kerry g" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's strange. I've had three to five external drives (currently 1x120,
>2x160
>>>>> and 1x230) and a DVD burner constantly hung off the internal FW of my
>dual
>>>>> G5 for two years now (plus a 160 and a 320 internally and a 500 in a
>USB2.0
>>>>> cradle). Maybe I'm missing something - what are the symptoms of it misbehaving?
>>>>>
>>>>> rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> macs don't like multiple connections using their on board fw. i
>>>>>> already have the pci/firewire for the ad/da and one audio drive and
>i
>>>>>> need connections for more portability. i'll also be adding a sata
>>>>>> drive internally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i've looked at SIIG and Synchrotech but will pass on lacie stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:22:45 -0700, Kerry Galloway
>>>>>> <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have any experience with the PCI-e ones; what's up? Is your
>onboard
>>>>>>> FW dead, or are you just looking for more outputs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/17/08 3:30 AM, in article ag9e049j8d37t090dn929o1hbih4m08u9f@4ax.com,
>>>>>>> "rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what's good out there?
>>>>
>>
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| Re: Pci-e FW card for mac... [message #98153 is a reply to message #98131] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 10:53 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Hi James,
James McCloskey wrote:
> I've had just the opposite experience, all my Macs work. I've never had a
> problem with FireWire on any of my macs, and I own a lot of them. It sounds
> like they switched chip set manufacturers along the way but they are back
> to TI chip sets.
Yes the firewire chip set thing has been the only major thing to really happen lately.
Most anything else I seen has more to do with software and hardware people not getting their stuff optimized for Leopard.
Especially the software side of things.
The Bootcamp side of things is having some issues with firewire on the new models I think because of the TI chipset they use is a 400/800 combo chip.
Some of the BridgeCo chip based firewire audio devices will only work properly on the 800 port using an 400/800 adapter. Go figure.
Chris
>
> rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>> that is so true of macs...the errors or bugs are so inconsistent it
>> makes me laugh at there ads about not knowing what you'll get when you
>> buy a pc... especially with the mac version of vista in leopard.
>>
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:32:22 -0400, Chris Ludwig
>> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rick,
>>> G5 and Intel based Macs have all went through many variations. The behavior
> of firewire
>> devices varied almost as much. \
>>> There were some pretty major changes amongst the G5 models along when it
> came the hardware.
>>> Kerry luckily is using one that doesn't have any issues.
>>>
>>> We have had good luck with the Siig cards on both Mac and PC.
>>> It is best not to get a combo 800/400 or a 400/usb card. Just get a 400
> only. The TI
>> chips used are different than the ones on the combo cards.
>>> The one that Kim pointed out is a good choice.
>>> You should pick up a 4pin power extension to use with the Y-Splitter the
> card comes
>> with.
>>> The card does need to have the power hooked up.
>>> The only 4pin (IDE drive) power connection is located up in the section
> with the CDrom
>> drive so it's a long run.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> rick wrote:
>>>> the old drive too slow prompt when two external drives are connected.
>>>> with only one drive connected the same song plays through without
>>>> problems; not so with two connected playing the same song off either
>>>> drive.
>>>>
>>>> On 20 Apr 2008 12:41:13 +1000, "kerry g" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's strange. I've had three to five external drives (currently 1x120,
> 2x160
>>>>> and 1x230) and a DVD burner constantly hung off the internal FW of my
> dual
>>>>> G5 for two years now (plus a 160 and a 320 internally and a 500 in a
> USB2.0
>>>>> cradle). Maybe I'm missing something - what are the symptoms of it misbehaving?
>>>>>
>>>>> rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> macs don't like multiple connections using their on board fw. i
>>>>>> already have the pci/firewire for the ad/da and one audio drive and
> i
>>>>>> need connections for more portability. i'll also be adding a sata
>>>>>> drive internally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i've looked at SIIG and Synchrotech but will pass on lacie stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:22:45 -0700, Kerry Galloway
>>>>>> <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have any experience with the PCI-e ones; what's up? Is your
> onboard
>>>>>>> FW dead, or are you just looking for more outputs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/17/08 3:30 AM, in article ag9e049j8d37t090dn929o1hbih4m08u9f@4ax.com,
>>>>>>> "rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what's good out there?
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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