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How do I Render External Aux FX? [message #77261]

Wed, 20 December 2006 16:19

emarenot

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I've been using ITB verbs and Paris verbs for most of my work. But recently
I hung a TC reverb off on of Paris' external outs. I set up one of the Aux
send/returns to handle the TC. How do I record the reverberated audio into
the submix? Does this happen "automatically" when I create an intelligent
submix or do I have to return the verb to two of its own tracks? From what
I've read there, the manual doesn't have a real clear answer to the
question -though I could have missed something.
Thanks
MR

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Re: How do I Render External Aux FX? [message #77262 is a reply to message #77261]

Wed, 20 December 2006 14:19

Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

If you want to print the verb you have to return it to it's own tracks. Instead
of connecting the returns to the aux, connect them to 2 inupts, just like
you were were recording something. Hit record, and let the song play out.
Rod
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>I've been using ITB verbs and Paris verbs for most of my work. But recently
>I hung a TC reverb off on of Paris' external outs. I set up one of the
Aux
>send/returns to handle the TC. How do I record the reverberated audio into
>the submix? Does this happen "automatically" when I create an intelligent
>submix or do I have to return the verb to two of its own tracks? From what
>I've read there, the manual doesn't have a real clear answer to the
>question -though I could have missed something.
>Thanks
>MR
>
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Re: How do I Render External Aux FX? [message #77264 is a reply to message #77262]

Wed, 20 December 2006 16:35

emarenot

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Registered: June 2005

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Thanks Rod.
Damn, I was living in this fantasy that somehow the aux returns would simply
get "mixed in" when I made a submix.
Cheers,
MR

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nosopam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4589a8db$1@linux...
>
> If you want to print the verb you have to return it to it's own tracks.
Instead
> of connecting the returns to the aux, connect them to 2 inupts, just like
> you were were recording something. Hit record, and let the song play out.
> Rod
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I've been using ITB verbs and Paris verbs for most of my work. But
recently
> >I hung a TC reverb off on of Paris' external outs. I set up one of the
> Aux
> >send/returns to handle the TC. How do I record the reverberated audio
into
> >the submix? Does this happen "automatically" when I create an intelligent
> >submix or do I have to return the verb to two of its own tracks? From
what
> >I've read there, the manual doesn't have a real clear answer to the
> >question -though I could have missed something.
> >Thanks
> >MR
> >
> >
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> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1555" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've been using ITB verbs and Paris =
> >verbs for most=20
> >of my work. But recently I hung a TC reverb off on of Paris' =
> >external=20
> >outs. I set up one of the Aux send/returns to handle the TC. =
> >How do=20
> >I record the reverberated audio into the submix? Does this happen=20
> >"automatically" when I create an intelligent submix or do I have to =
> >return the=20
> >verb to two of its own tracks? From what I've read there, the =
> >manual=20
> >doesn't have a real clear answer to the question -though I could have =
> >missed=20
> >something.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MR</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>

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Re: How do I Render External Aux FX? [message #77266 is a reply to message #77264]

Wed, 20 December 2006 14:43

Don Nafe

Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4589a9b9@linux...
> Thanks Rod.
> Damn, I was living in this fantasy that somehow the aux returns would
> simply
> get "mixed in" when I made a submix.
> Cheers,
> MR
>

For a second I thought you were going to say you had a fantasy about ID
releasing a new version of PAris

Don

> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nosopam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4589a8db$1@linux...
>>
>> If you want to print the verb you have to return it to it's own tracks.
> Instead
>> of connecting the returns to the aux, connect them to 2 inupts, just like
>> you were were recording something. Hit record, and let the song play out.
>> Rod
>> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >I've been using ITB verbs and Paris verbs for most of my work. But
> recently
>> >I hung a TC reverb off on of Paris' external outs. I set up one of the
>> Aux
>> >send/returns to handle the TC. How do I record the reverberated audio
> into
>> >the submix? Does this happen "automatically" when I create an
>> >intelligent
>> >submix or do I have to return the verb to two of its own tracks? From
> what
>> >I've read there, the manual doesn't have a real clear answer to the
>> >question -though I could have missed something.
>> >Thanks
>> >MR
>> >
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1555" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've been using ITB verbs and Paris =
>> >verbs for most=20
>> >of my work. But recently I hung a TC reverb off on of Paris' =
>> >external=20
>> >outs. I set up one of the Aux send/returns to handle the TC. =
>> >How do=20
>> >I record the reverberated audio into the submix? Does this happen=20
>> >"automatically" when I create an intelligent submix or do I have to =
>> >return the=20
>> >verb to two of its own tracks? From what I've read there, the =
>> >manual=20
>> >doesn't have a real clear answer to the question -though I could have =
>> >missed=20
>> >something.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MR</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

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Re: How do I Render External Aux FX? [message #77270 is a reply to message #77264]

Wed, 20 December 2006 16:41

chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

They will get mixed in. Rod was posting about if you want to print the verbs
to individual tracks. Lots of folks do that to be able to change the verb
level later.

Chuck

"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Thanks Rod.
>Damn, I was living in this fantasy that somehow the aux returns would simply
>get "mixed in" when I made a submix.
>Cheers,
>MR
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nosopam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:4589a8db$1@linux...
>>
>> If you want to print the verb you have to return it to it's own tracks.
>Instead
>> of connecting the returns to the aux, connect them to 2 inupts, just like
>> you were were recording something. Hit record, and let the song play out.
>> Rod
>> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >I've been using ITB verbs and Paris verbs for most of my work. But
>recently
>> >I hung a TC reverb off on of Paris' external outs. I set up one of the
>> Aux
>> >send/returns to handle the TC. How do I record the reverberated audio
>into
>> >the submix? Does this happen "automatically" when I create an intelligent
>> >submix or do I have to return the verb to two of its own tracks? From
>what
>> >I've read there, the manual doesn't have a real clear answer to the
>> >question -though I could have missed something.
>> >Thanks
>> >MR
>> >
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1555" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've been using ITB verbs and Paris
=
>> >verbs for most=20
>> >of my work. But recently I hung a TC reverb off on of Paris' =
>> >external=20
>> >outs. I set up one of the Aux send/returns to handle the TC. =
>> >How do=20
>> >I record the reverberated audio into the submix? Does this happen=20
>> >"automatically" when I create an intelligent submix or do I have to =
>> >return the=20
>> >verb to two of its own tracks? From what I've read there, the =
>> >manual=20
>> >doesn't have a real clear answer to the question -though I could have
=
>> >missed=20
>> >something.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MR</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

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Re: How do I Render External Aux FX? [message #77271 is a reply to message #77264]

Wed, 20 December 2006 17:01

Ted Gerber

Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009

Senior Member

"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Damn, I was living in this fantasy that somehow the aux returns would simply
>get "mixed in" when I made a submix.

Anything on the Auxes that is active when you bounce or render will be
mixed in, just as it sounds on playback. If you want further control of
the verbs later in the mix process (EQs, levels etc) then you return the

verbs (sent via Aux) to 2 channels and record the input. Can't remember
what, if any, muting of other channels has to happen in order for you to
only receive back the wet verb signal...

Ted

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