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John [1]
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How come rick came to mind when you said that?
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>>A native version would be the next logical step but it would be so archaic
>>compared to Reaper, Cubase and others it would hardly be worth the trouble.
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>May a Hindu Holy Man molest you with his Yak stick!
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>DC
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>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
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>>>You may be onto something there LaMont. Releasing native versions of the
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>>>software seems possible. The software side was ID's realm.
>>>
>>>Any non-compete agreements may be about to expire with Creative.
>>>
>>>With today's native hardware speeds, the fast PARIS hardware that
>>>offloaded DSP processing from the computer's CPU may be somewhat
>>>superfluous.
>>>
>>>The PARIS software could rock on an octo-core box.
>>>
>>>Things they could do include lifting the old hardward-bound 16 channel
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>>>limit, and finishing/fixing the MIDI implementation.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>> That's harsh.. I'd welcome something new from ID. Paris was still in
>it's
>>>> infacy when they pulled the plug.
>>>>
>>>> I remember Edmund showing me a "working" version of Paris "Native" on
>>Mac
>>>> OS back in 2000 NAMM. I mean it was working really good.
>>>>
>>>> So, to have a native VST version of Paris that spealize in Tracking,
>routing,
>>>> mixing would be great. Forget about the midi sequencer, vsti's..
>>>>
>>>> Well??? If he had all that working , then okay..
>>>> I hold any ill feelings to ID what so ever. Only to Creative and EMU.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Even more, I stated back in 2000-2002 that EMU made a very bad strategic
>>>> move when it pour most of it's resources into ROmplers. Most of them
>bombed,
>>>> saved for the Planet Phatt module. Now look at them. Can't give away
>the
>>>> samples for their softsampler. And, to this day, their Audio cards still
>>>> suffer from "just okay" drivers..
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>> Paris is DONE. He ain't doing anything else and if he is don't buy
>it.
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| Re: Intelligent Devices Site [message #90657 is a reply to message #90653] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 12:06 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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how come the old guy gets blamed for everythihng...oooh my brownies
are burning!!!
On 28 Sep 2007 03:57:07 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>How come rick came to mind when you said that?
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>A native version would be the next logical step but it would be so archaic
>>>compared to Reaper, Cubase and others it would hardly be worth the trouble.
>>
>>May a Hindu Holy Man molest you with his Yak stick!
>>
>>
>>DC
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>You may be onto something there LaMont. Releasing native versions of the
>>>
>>>>software seems possible. The software side was ID's realm.
>>>>
>>>>Any non-compete agreements may be about to expire with Creative.
>>>>
>>>>With today's native hardware speeds, the fast PARIS hardware that
>>>>offloaded DSP processing from the computer's CPU may be somewhat
>>>>superfluous.
>>>>
>>>>The PARIS software could rock on an octo-core box.
>>>>
>>>>Things they could do include lifting the old hardward-bound 16 channel
>>
>>>>limit, and finishing/fixing the MIDI implementation.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>> That's harsh.. I'd welcome something new from ID. Paris was still in
>>it's
>>>>> infacy when they pulled the plug.
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember Edmund showing me a "working" version of Paris "Native" on
>>>Mac
>>>>> OS back in 2000 NAMM. I mean it was working really good.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, to have a native VST version of Paris that spealize in Tracking,
>>routing,
>>>>> mixing would be great. Forget about the midi sequencer, vsti's..
>>>>>
>>>>> Well??? If he had all that working , then okay..
>>>>> I hold any ill feelings to ID what so ever. Only to Creative and EMU.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Even more, I stated back in 2000-2002 that EMU made a very bad strategic
>>>>> move when it pour most of it's resources into ROmplers. Most of them
>>bombed,
>>>>> saved for the Planet Phatt module. Now look at them. Can't give away
>>the
>>>>> samples for their softsampler. And, to this day, their Audio cards still
>>>>> suffer from "just okay" drivers..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Paris is DONE. He ain't doing anything else and if he is don't buy
>>it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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| Re: Intelligent Devices Site [message #90659 is a reply to message #90645] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 12:35 |
TCB
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I'm a capitalist, and I have a hard time a product that has been essentially
dormant for five years could possibly compete with products that have been
out there in the marketplace fighting with each other. I'm happy to look
at anything to see if it's a better mousetrap, but I can't imagine I'll prefer
it to my Live/SX combo rig that I'm running now.
TCB
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>That's harsh.. I'd welcome something new from ID. Paris was still in it's
>infacy when they pulled the plug.
>
>I remember Edmund showing me a "working" version of Paris "Native" on Mac
>OS back in 2000 NAMM. I mean it was working really good.
>
>So, to have a native VST version of Paris that spealize in Tracking, routing,
>mixing would be great. Forget about the midi sequencer, vsti's..
>
>Well??? If he had all that working , then okay..
>I hold any ill feelings to ID what so ever. Only to Creative and EMU.
>
>Even more, I stated back in 2000-2002 that EMU made a very bad strategic
>move when it pour most of it's resources into ROmplers. Most of them bombed,
>saved for the Planet Phatt module. Now look at them. Can't give away the
>samples for their softsampler. And, to this day, their Audio cards still
>suffer from "just okay" drivers..
>
>
>
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>>Paris is DONE. He ain't doing anything else and if he is don't buy it.
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| Re: Intelligent Devices Site [message #90661 is a reply to message #90659] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 13:09 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>I'm a capitalist, and I have a hard time a product that has been essentially
>dormant for five years could possibly compete with products that have been
>out there in the marketplace fighting with each other. I'm happy to look
>at anything to see if it's a better mousetrap, but I can't imagine I'll
prefer
>it to my Live/SX combo rig that I'm running now.
>
>TCB
Yes, but what if he has been working on it all this time at his own pace?
Damn, I hope he got rid of the Pace!
As I believe, there was a version that ran QuickTime, a version that ran
native, and a version that ran on OSX. I hope it will still run on the old
hardware, I have a lot invested, and I think it still sounds good. In the
past they said they were looking at different hardware. I would also like
to have a native version for location recording with a lap top. I also hope
it has modern DAW features like delay compensation, but I have my doubts
that any thing is coming for PARIS.
It is pure speculation, but I think the statutes of limitation, seven years,
would be up in November or January, but I could be off by a year. Time
will tell.
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>>That's harsh.. I'd welcome something new from ID. Paris was still in it's
>>infacy when they pulled the plug.
>>
>>I remember Edmund showing me a "working" version of Paris "Native" on Mac
>>OS back in 2000 NAMM. I mean it was working really good.
>>
>>So, to have a native VST version of Paris that spealize in Tracking, routing,
>>mixing would be great. Forget about the midi sequencer, vsti's..
>>
>>Well??? If he had all that working , then okay..
>>I hold any ill feelings to ID what so ever. Only to Creative and EMU.
>>
>>Even more, I stated back in 2000-2002 that EMU made a very bad strategic
>>move when it pour most of it's resources into ROmplers. Most of them bombed,
>>saved for the Planet Phatt module. Now look at them. Can't give away the
>>samples for their softsampler. And, to this day, their Audio cards still
>>suffer from "just okay" drivers..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Paris is DONE. He ain't doing anything else and if he is don't buy it.
>>
>>
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| Re: Intelligent Devices Site [message #90662 is a reply to message #90659] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 13:33 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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That's a powerful combo Thad(LIVE & SX), but an updated Paris for Mix and
Recording Engineers is very much welcomed.
Not everyone wanted not need all of the goodies in SX. When it comes time
to mix the $$ jobs, Paris & Pro Tools are no#1 in my book. Notice that I
did not say editing.. That dubious spot belongs to SX/Nuendo hands down..
So, if an updated Paris did not have a midi sequencer, vsti hosting ....But
HAD: Total Delay coompensation, even more flexible patchbay routing, and
proper Asio2 plugin handling..Wow!!
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>I'm a capitalist, and I have a hard time a product that has been essentially
>dormant for five years could possibly compete with products that have been
>out there in the marketplace fighting with each other. I'm happy to look
>at anything to see if it's a better mousetrap, but I can't imagine I'll
prefer
>it to my Live/SX combo rig that I'm running now.
>
>TCB
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>That's harsh.. I'd welcome something new from ID. Paris was still in it's
>>infacy when they pulled the plug.
>>
>>I remember Edmund showing me a "working" version of Paris "Native" on Mac
>>OS back in 2000 NAMM. I mean it was working really good.
>>
>>So, to have a native VST version of Paris that spealize in Tracking, routing,
>>mixing would be great. Forget about the midi sequencer, vsti's..
>>
>>Well??? If he had all that working , then okay..
>>I hold any ill feelings to ID what so ever. Only to Creative and EMU.
>>
>>Even more, I stated back in 2000-2002 that EMU made a very bad strategic
>>move when it pour most of it's resources into ROmplers. Most of them bombed,
>>saved for the Planet Phatt module. Now look at them. Can't give away the
>>samples for their softsampler. And, to this day, their Audio cards still
>>suffer from "just okay" drivers..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Paris is DONE. He ain't doing anything else and if he is don't buy it.
>>
>>
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| Re: Intelligent Devices Site [message #90664 is a reply to message #90662] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 13:41 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>That's a powerful combo Thad(LIVE & SX), but an updated Paris for Mix and
>Recording Engineers is very much welcomed.
>
>Not everyone wanted not need all of the goodies in SX. When it comes time
>to mix the $$ jobs, Paris & Pro Tools are no#1 in my book. Notice that I
>did not say editing.. That dubious spot belongs to SX/Nuendo hands down..
>
>So, if an updated Paris did not have a midi sequencer, vsti hosting ....But
>HAD: Total Delay coompensation, even more flexible patchbay routing, and
>proper Asio2 plugin handling..Wow!!
>
>
Yes, but what if the editing shows up as good or better? Hee hee hee ;
) It's all speculation. What if Edmund has been working on Logic for Apple
all this time??? Some of those feature concepts look familiar! We could
speculate all day; )
It's always fun to dream. What would be on your wish list?
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'm a capitalist, and I have a hard time a product that has been essentially
>>dormant for five years could possibly compete with products that have been
>>out there in the marketplace fighting with each other. I'm happy to look
>>at anything to see if it's a better mousetrap, but I can't imagine I'll
>prefer
>>it to my Live/SX combo rig that I'm running now.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>That's harsh.. I'd welcome something new from ID. Paris was still in it's
>>>infacy when they pulled the plug.
>>>
>>>I remember Edmund showing me a "working" version of Paris "Native" on
Mac
>>>OS back in 2000 NAMM. I mean it was working really good.
>>>
>>>So, to have a native VST version of Paris that spealize in Tracking, routing,
>>>mixing would be great. Forget about the midi sequencer, vsti's..
>>>
>>>Well??? If he had all that working , then okay..
>>>I hold any ill feelings to ID what so ever. Only to Creative and EMU.
>>>
>>>Even more, I stated back in 2000-2002 that EMU made a very bad strategic
>>>move when it pour most of it's resources into ROmplers. Most of them bombed,
>>>saved for the Planet Phatt module. Now look at them. Can't give away the
>>>samples for their softsampler. And, to this day, their Audio cards still
>>>suffer from "just okay" drivers..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Paris is DONE. He ain't doing anything else and if he is don't buy it.
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Intelligent Devices Site [message #90669 is a reply to message #90662] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 14:53 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Agreed, LaMont, it would fill a niche, but still just a niche. But hey, I
hope you guys wind up with it if that's what you want.
TCB
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>That's a powerful combo Thad(LIVE & SX), but an updated Paris for Mix and
>Recording Engineers is very much welcomed.
>
>Not everyone wanted not need all of the goodies in SX. When it comes time
>to mix the $$ jobs, Paris & Pro Tools are no#1 in my book. Notice that I
>did not say editing.. That dubious spot belongs to SX/Nuendo hands down..
>
>So, if an updated Paris did not have a midi sequencer, vsti hosting ....But
>HAD: Total Delay coompensation, even more flexible patchbay routing, and
>proper Asio2 plugin handling..Wow!!
>
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'm a capitalist, and I have a hard time a product that has been essentially
>>dormant for five years could possibly compete with products that have been
>>out there in the marketplace fighting with each other. I'm happy to look
>>at anything to see if it's a better mousetrap, but I can't imagine I'll
>prefer
>>it to my Live/SX combo rig that I'm running now.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>That's harsh.. I'd welcome something new from ID. Paris was still in it's
>>>infacy when they pulled the plug.
>>>
>>>I remember Edmund showing me a "working" version of Paris "Native" on
Mac
>>>OS back in 2000 NAMM. I mean it was working really good.
>>>
>>>So, to have a native VST version of Paris that spealize in Tracking, routing,
>>>mixing would be great. Forget about the midi sequencer, vsti's..
>>>
>>>Well??? If he had all that working , then okay..
>>>I hold any ill feelings to ID what so ever. Only to Creative and EMU.
>>>
>>>Even more, I stated back in 2000-2002 that EMU made a very bad strategic
>>>move when it pour most of it's resources into ROmplers. Most of them bombed,
>>>saved for the Planet Phatt module. Now look at them. Can't give away the
>>>samples for their softsampler. And, to this day, their Audio cards still
>>>suffer from "just okay" drivers..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Paris is DONE. He ain't doing anything else and if he is don't buy it.
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Intelligent Devices Site [message #90680 is a reply to message #90664] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 21:12 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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If this does come to pass, I'd lay odds that it absolutely screams on Mac
OSX. Ed and SSC were both Macfolk.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46fc1578$1@linux...
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> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>That's a powerful combo Thad(LIVE & SX), but an updated Paris for Mix and
>>Recording Engineers is very much welcomed.
>>
>>Not everyone wanted not need all of the goodies in SX. When it comes time
>>to mix the $$ jobs, Paris & Pro Tools are no#1 in my book. Notice that I
>>did not say editing.. That dubious spot belongs to SX/Nuendo hands down..
>>
>>So, if an updated Paris did not have a midi sequencer, vsti hosting
>>....But
>>HAD: Total Delay coompensation, even more flexible patchbay routing, and
>>proper Asio2 plugin handling..Wow!!
>>
>>
> Yes, but what if the editing shows up as good or better? Hee hee hee ;
> ) It's all speculation. What if Edmund has been working on Logic for
> Apple
> all this time??? Some of those feature concepts look familiar! We could
> speculate all day; )
>
> It's always fun to dream. What would be on your wish list?
>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm a capitalist, and I have a hard time a product that has been
>>>essentially
>>>dormant for five years could possibly compete with products that have
>>>been
>>>out there in the marketplace fighting with each other. I'm happy to look
>>>at anything to see if it's a better mousetrap, but I can't imagine I'll
>>prefer
>>>it to my Live/SX combo rig that I'm running now.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>That's harsh.. I'd welcome something new from ID. Paris was still in
>>>>it's
>>>>infacy when they pulled the plug.
>>>>
>>>>I remember Edmund showing me a "working" version of Paris "Native" on
> Mac
>>>>OS back in 2000 NAMM. I mean it was working really good.
>>>>
>>>>So, to have a native VST version of Paris that spealize in Tracking,
>>>>routing,
>>>>mixing would be great. Forget about the midi sequencer, vsti's..
>>>>
>>>>Well??? If he had all that working , then okay..
>>>>I hold any ill feelings to ID what so ever. Only to Creative and EMU.
>
>>>>
>>>>Even more, I stated back in 2000-2002 that EMU made a very bad strategic
>>>>move when it pour most of it's resources into ROmplers. Most of them
>>>>bombed,
>>>>saved for the Planet Phatt module. Now look at them. Can't give away the
>>>>samples for their softsampler. And, to this day, their Audio cards still
>>>>suffer from "just okay" drivers..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Paris is DONE. He ain't doing anything else and if he is don't buy it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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