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OK........now WTF is happening with my network!!!!????? ;o( [message #62202] Sun, 01 January 2006 20:19 Go to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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spam-this-ahole_@animas.net" target="_blank">animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net
> <mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net>> wrote in message
> news:43b6f3e8$1@linux...
> I've been puttering around inthe yard today doing this and
> that. There are
> dead birds all over the place. It's not from cold. These birds are
> year -round species and it hasn't been cold enough to hurt
> these little
> critters. This looks like a classic West Nile die
> off.......either that or
> our little cat has been working triple overtime (she's a major
> predator, but
> thi
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network connections between both my DAWs. They are
>
> seeing
>
>>>each other's HD's and I have unrestricted sharing set. However, I can't
>>>transfer files from my Paris DAW anymore. For some reason, even though
>
> the
>
>>>folders are set up for sharing, the sub directories and the folders
>
> within
>
>>>these subdirectories have somehow been set to where I have to go into
>
> every
>
>>>subdirectory level and set each folder to share. This machine is running
>>>Windows ME. I have literally hundreds of subdirectories and sub-sub
>>>directories within my main directories. How could this happen? Prior to
>>>hooking up this new DAW, I just set my main directories to share on both
>>>machines and I could shuttle stuff back and forth all day long. The
>
> current
>
>>>situation sucks most seriously..........(sigh)..........what else can
>>>happen????.......wait.........don't a
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vaccine on themselves, often with their vet's
>>assistance, with no side effects. gotta get the dose right though. they
>>all firmly believe that if it won't kill a horse it will be okay for
>>humans, moreso that if it's tested in mice etc.
>>
>>Can$0.02
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>It's very prevalent in this area. We've had our horses vaccinated, but
>>>there is no vaccination for humans. People have died around here from
>>>this. I know a couple of folks who caught it a couple of years ago and
>>>are still sick. Having lived a good part of my life in the tropics and
>>>having survived some pretty nasty bugs, I've got a pretty strong
>>>constitution/immune system. Summer of 2003 I got really sick for a few
>>>days. Never felt anything like it before, but then it cleared up. No
>>>self respecting bug hangs around me for long, but I worry a lot about
>>>my wife.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
>>> wrote in message news:43b6f6fb@linux...
>>> Deej,
>>> I hope you're wrong.
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <

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Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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ME. I have literally hundreds of subdirectories and sub-sub
>>>>>>directories within my main directories. How could this happen? Prior
>
> to
>
>>>>>>hooking up this new DAW, I just set my main directories to share on
>>
>>both
>>
>>>>>>machines and I could shuttle stuff back and forth all day long. The
>>>>
>>>>current
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>situation sucks most seriously..........(sigh)..........what else can
>>>>>>happen????.......wait.........don't answer that!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>Found the problem. Didn't have the "allow users to change my files" settings
clicked on the SX computer so though I could transfer from the SX DAw to the
Paris DAW (backasswards from what I need to be doing), I couldn't transfer
from the Paris DAw to the Cubase DAW. Pilot error .......as usual.

Seems like I need to build a DAW a week just to keep my syanpses firing
properly. When I go for a couple of years, I forget one of the
327443333333337892 simple little things that are necessary to make this
happen.

I did talk to Chris Ludwig earlier today. It ws gratifying to know that
99.9% of the wierdness I've experienced while building this DAW has also
been encountered by others.

OK.......now where was I????

;o)

"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
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> That was the issue here... sometimes it would work, other times... not
> so much.
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
> > Nope......didn't work after all.........Grrrrrrrr ...........;o(
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:43b972eb$1@linux...
> >
> >>I fixed this by going into my ME networking and setting up a the drives
to
> >>access using a password. I have no idea why it should need this now, but
> >>it's just a small thing and it's working now so I'm not gonna worry
about
> >>it. pita though.
> >>
> >>Deej
> >>
> >>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> >>news:

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linux..." target="_blank">43b95eb1@linux...
> >>
> >>>Our networking guys for the office shudder everytime they hear "ME"...
> >>> we actually had to remove ME from all our office machines because
> >>>they were so unstable with the new network we installed recently.
> >>>
> >>>David.
> >>>
> >>>DJ wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>What's strange about this is that it was workig perfectly with my
> >
> > other
> >
> >>DAW.
> >>
> >>>>I hven't made any changes at all to any settings on the Paris DAW
> >>
> >>running
> >>
> >>>>ME.
> >>>>
> >>>>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:43b952b4$1@linux...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>ME does NOT play nice with NT/2000/XP for networking. You may want
to
> >>>>>look at going back to 98SE instead as this is way more network
> >
> > friendly.
> >
> >>>>>David.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>DJ wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I just set up my network connections between both my DAWs. They are
> >>>>
> >>>>seeing
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>each other's HD's and I have unrestricted sharing set. However, I
> >
> > can't
> >
> >>>>>>transfer files from my Paris DAW anymore. For some reason, even
> >
> > though
> >
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>folders are set up for sharing, the sub directories and the folders
> >>>>
> >>>>within
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>these subdirectories have somehow been set to where I have to go
into
> >>>>
> >>>>every
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>subdirectory level and set each folder to share. This machine is
> >>
> >>running
> >>
> >>>>>>Windows ME. I have literally hundreds of subdirectories and sub-sub
> >>>>>>directories within my main directories. How could this happen? Prior
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>>>>hooking up this new DAW, I just set my main directories to share on
> >>
> >>both
> >>
> >>>>>>machines and I could shuttle stuff back and forth all day long. The
> >>>>
> >>>>current
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>situation sucks most seriously..........(sigh)..........what else
can
> >>>>>>happen????.......wait.........don't answer that!!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
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;>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
> >Well I just got into Paris a couple months ago. Its my first DAW. I am
amazed at what all it can do. I did try out a Roland unit one time but was
disappointed with the sound - dead, cold, etc. I am using Paris to track
vocals and synth mainly for church related things, BG tracks, CDs, etc.
Also for writing my own stuff - I play kybds/sing. Used to play in bands.
I got Paris for the sound. I prefer analog, and Paris was touted as the
nearest to that. It certainly wipes the floor with the Roland, IMHO. And I
love the editing features. At the moment I am experimenting with mixdowns,
trying to get the exported stereo files to sound as good as the original mix
and as loud as comm cds - when I bring the stereo wav back to the project
and a/b with the original, it doesn't sound quite as open and clear.
Edna
"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:43b9713f$1@linux...
>
> The automation is a great feature, but I too stay away from it cause
everytime
> I sit through mixing.. I end up changing things... and I haven't figured
> out how to "edit" the automation either. Funny thing.. I been using my
Paris
> since 2001 and I just use it for basic tracking/mixing. I never got into
> all the features... but it's on my list too.. lol. By the time I learn,
> Paris will be obsolete. Oh! it IS obsolete... lol. So, what do you use
Paris
> for? You got a band, or just play with it, like me? I don't go out much
> (not too many places to go in southern MD.. lol.) So this is my hobby and
> my little get-away. It's been fun. I started out with a Roland system.
> But I knew I had to move to a DAW since it wasn't easy to edit single
files/channels
> on the Roland. Ok.. I bored ya enough... Thanks again and I'll try the
normalize
> funtion... ~ Ed
>
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >You bet! Actually, you don't have to do it that way. You could just
> >normalize down/up from the highest fader value in the mix.
> >
> >I haven't gotten in to the automation or the automation editor yet
either,
> >except to just make sure the automation worked after my install of Paris.
> >But its on my list.
> >Edna
> >
> >"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:43b9652e$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Thanks Edna... I'll try that. I seen the normalize button, but was
unsure
> >> how it operated. In fact, I wished I known this option a few days
ago...
> >> would have saved me lots of time. I was trying to remix/remaster some
> >older
> >> projects and songs.. and it was very time consuming to individually
adjust
> >> each channel. Thanks again... :)
> >>
> >>
> >> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >> >Yes, you can use the normalize function to do this - bring them up or
> >down.
> >> >For example say you want to lower them all by 3db. On an unused
channel
> >> >move its fader to 10 and then normalize with highest at 7. This
brings
> >> >down all faders by 3. (To bring them back up to where they were,
> >normalize
> >> >to 10.)
> >> >Edna
> >> >
> >> >"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:43b952d0$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi All. Perhaps a quick
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n' easy question for you Paris power users.
> I
> >> >mainly
> >> >> use the mouse for controlling everything on the mixer(s) and such.
> >> >Anyway,
> >> >> I was working on a few projects and found that I sonically liked the
> >> >levels
> >> >> of one of the projects. It is very frustrating going back through
> all
> >> the
> >> >> other songs in the other projects to bring down each channel fader
> >> >individually.
> >> >> My question is... is there a way to control all active (active
meaning
> >> >there
> >> >> is something on the channel) channel faders at the same time?
Another
> >> >words,
> >> >> I have all the channel faders set properly, but I want to bring them
> >all
> >> >> down a few db's. Is there a way to bring them all down at the same
> >time
> >> >> without doing them individually?
> >> >>
> >> >> Lastly, I don't have any automation set, so that won't be effected
> by
> >> >this.
> >> >> In fact, I try to stay away from automation because of this reason.
> >> >There
> >> >> may be an easy way to "edit" the automation, but I haven't figured
> it
> >> out.
> >> >> I just try to stay away from it. Some day I may delve into that
> >learning
> >> >> process... lol. I am old school. Just use Paris for basic
recording,
> >> >mixing....
> >> >> thanks in advance... and Happy New Year (2006)!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>Hey Deej,

Map a drive. So, you have two machines, one named Old_DAW one named New_DAW.
On New_DAW right click on My Computer and select Map Network Drive. Select
Z for the drive letter (or something else, I always start with Z) and map


\\Old_DAW\c$

which is the admin share of the old machine. Then you should be able to copy
over whatever you want.

If this doesn't work, try mapping the admin share (\\New_DAW\c$) on the ME
box.

Also, make sure your TCP/IP settings are set even if you don't think they're
being used. 95/98/ME can do strange things like use NetBIOS name resolution
but IP file transfer. So have Old_DAW be set to

ip 192.168.1.2
sm 255.255.255.0
gw 192.168.1.1

And New_DAW set to

ip 192.168.1.1
sm 255.255.255.0
gw 192.168.1.1

Notice that New_DAW winds up being the gateway for Old_DAW which is how you
want it. Also, if the sm (subnet mask) isn't the same you ain't networking
anything.

TCB

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I just set up my network connections between both my DAWs. They are seeing
>each other's HD's and I have unrestricted sharing set. However, I can't
>transfer files from my Paris DAW anymore. For some reason, even though the
>folders are set up for sharing, the sub directories and the folders within
>these subdirectories have somehow been set to where I have to go into every
>subdirectory level and set each folder to share. This machine is running
>Windows ME. I have literally hundreds of subdirectories and sub-sub
>directories within my main directories. How could this happen? Prior to
>hooking up this new DAW, I just set my main directories to share on both
>machines and I could shuttle stuff back and forth all day long. The current
>situation sucks most seriously..........(sigh)..........what else can
>happen????.......wait.........don't answer that!!!!
>
>Very nice. I need to a) get a wife and b) start a band called "Wicked Hot
Drug Fueled Threesome With Sophia Vergara and Maria Sharapova." And forward
this posting to my wife, of course.

TCB

jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>
>Well this year my wife Nina really outdid herself. Based on the premise

>that my band is Chrome and the handle is pretty cool, she surprised me
>with an Ibanez Gem with a rock mirror finish. Gotta say, of all the axes

>I have this one plays like a dream come true for me because of the super

>flat neck. it's also very wide, wider than my Tanglewood accoustic, so I

>can fingerpick on my electric with some semblence of accurace for a
>change...lol
>roflmao.....
..,..but don't stop looking, she's out there!.,.lol

y'know those Top 10 things you'll never hear a woman say lists? my wife
routinely says about 8 of them.

TCB wrote:

>Very nice. I need to a) get a wife and b) start a band called "Wicked Hot
>Drug Fueled Threesome With Sophia Vergara and Maria Sharapova." And forward
>this posting to my wife, of course.
>
>TCB
>
>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Well this year my wife Nina really outdid herself. Based on the premise
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>that my band is Chrome and the handle is pretty cool, she surprised me
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> > Deej,
> > I hope you're wrong.
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net
> > <mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net>> wrote in message
> > news:43b6f3e8$1@linux...
> > I've been puttering around inthe yard today doing this and
> > that. There are
> > dead birds all over the place. It's not from cold. These birds
are
> > year -round species and it hasn't been cold enough to hurt
> > these little
> > critters. This looks like a classic West Nile die
> > off.......either that or
> > our little cat has been working triple overtime (she's a major
> > predator, but
> > this is too much, even for her). Strange that it should happen
> > at this time
> > of year though. It's too cold for mosquitoes. I wonder if the
> > infection can
> > lie dormant and then pop up later. We've called the health
> > department.
> >Editing automation is basically how I automate...very simple indeed...I'm
not at my machine right now so I can't give you a step by step but if you'd
like email me and when I get a chance (next day or so) I'll send you the how
to that I use or we can chat on the phone or via skype...much quicker

don

"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:43b9713f$1@linux...
>
> The automation is a great feature, but I too stay away from it cause
> everytime
> I sit through mixing..
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> plugged into the inputs of Paris. I can see the click on the level
> indicator onscreen. It can happen on any channel but it is always to the
> right of an operating channel, and usually an unused one. I hear it on
> playback but more importantly on my mixdowns as well. I have reloaded the
> software but as yet have not managed to track the problem down...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim.
>Welcome back Doug!

Happy New Year to all!

James


"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>Hi everybody!
>
>I hope you all had a less crazy 2005 than I did! On the bright side though,

>my brother's kids now live right around the block from my kids, my mom gave

>me my (late) Dad's GMC Safari, I finally paid off the Honda Odyssey and
all
>the charge cards, refi'ed my house (15 year, 5.5% fixed), started a Roth

>IRA, and I tripled my 401(k) contribution. I put my studio back together

>after taking it apart to record others and to participate in Different Skies

>( http://www.differentskies.com ) and I was able to finally add the KSP8,

>the Eventide 4000 (wish I could afford an 8000A...) and the Echoplex Digital

>looper that I've been lusting for. I even started playing EWI... Phew!
>
>So, guess what? After all that, I should actually have time to work on

>Paris again this year! Woohoo...! OK, question time - "Is WDM dead?"
Is
>ASIO the only way to go now? Is Audition the only program that requires
WDM
>drivers any more? What about plugin formats? Is VST the way to go instead

>of DirectX or is that still up in the air?
>
>Happy New Year!
>
>Doug
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>http://www.dougwellington.com
>
>Thad,

I saw your post about mapping right after I figured out the fix. I
appreciate the time it took to explain this and I still may do it.

Thanks,

Deej

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43b9c31c$1@linux...
>
> One of the main double edged swords or using *nix systems is that at their
> core they are multi-user systems. This creates some problems, the most
seasoned
> unix ninjas occasionally wind up with user based head scrathers. The
upside
> is that one develops a "feel" for permissions problems. This happens to me
> once a month at least where I'll be working on something and say to
myself,
> "Wait, this just has to be permissions." Operating systems that try to
"hide"
> their multi-user roots (XP and OS X for example) have their own problems.
> Which is why even my XP music box at home is set up to log into a domain
> (a Debian samba server masquerading as a domain controller) and has three
> accounts on it. I keep it that way just to remind me I have to worry about
> it.
>
> BTW - mapping the admin share would have fixed this as well ;-)
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Found the problem. Didn't have the "allow users to change my files"
settings
> >clicked on the SX computer so though I could transfer from the SX DAw to
> the
> >Paris DAW (backasswards from what I need to be doing), I couldn't
transfer
> >from the Paris DAw to the Cubase DAW. Pilot error .......as usual.
> >
> >Seems like I need to build a DAW a week just to keep my syanpses firing
> >properly. When I go for a couple of years, I forget one of the
> >327443333333337892 simple little things that are necessary to make this
> >happen.
> >
> >I did talk to Chris Ludwig earlier today. It ws gratifying to know that
> >99.9% of the wierdness I've experienced while building this DAW has also
> >been encountered by others.
> >
> >OK.......now where was I????
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> >news:43b97979$1@linux...
> >> That was the issue here... sometimes it would work, other times... not
> >> so much.
> >>
> >> David.
> >>
> >> DJ wrote:
> >> > Nope......didn't work after all.........Grrrrrrrr ...........;o(
> >> >
> >> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:43b972eb$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> >>I fixed this by going into my ME networking and setting up a the
drives
> >to
> >> >>access using a password. I have no idea why it should need this now,
> but
> >> >>it's just a small thing and it's working now so I'm not gonna worry
> >about
> >> >>it. pita though.
> >> >>
> >> >>Deej
> >> >>
> >> >>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:43b95eb1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >>>Our networking guys for the office shudder everytime they hear
"ME"...
> >> >>> we actually had to remove ME from all our office machines because
> >> >>>they were so unstable with the new network we installed recently.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>David.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>DJ wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>What's strange about this is that it was workig perfectly with my
> >> >
> >> > other
> >> >
> >> >>DAW.
> >> >>
> >> >>>>I hven't made any changes at all to any settings on the Paris DAW
> >> >>
> >> >>running
> >> >>
> >> >>>>ME.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com<
Re: OK........now WTF is happening with my network!!!!????? ;o( [message #62251 is a reply to message #62247] Mon, 02 January 2006 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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are but as
yet
>have not managed to track the problem down...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim.
>
>Hi Doug,

You are a beacon of hope!!!!

Congrats on a successful year. I wish I'd managed to pull as much together!

As for your questions, I think that WDM would still be great for a simple
left and right out driver. We don't even need an input because we could
use PARIS for that. A stereo out would be great for mastering CDs in Pyro
or whatever or editing in Audition. Maybe the audio could be sent out both
the mains and the monitor outs on an MEC at the same time with no additional
config options. That would be wonderful (and hopefully not too hard to code)!

As for VST vs DX, I have no idea.

Happy New Year!

Mike

I'd even pay $99. :)



"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>Hi everybody!
>
>I hope you all had a less crazy 2005 than I did! On the bright side though,

>my brother's kids now live right around the block from my kids, my mom gave

>me my (late) Dad's GMC Safari, I finally paid off the Honda Odyssey and
all
>the charge cards, refi'ed my house (15 year, 5.5% fixed), started a Roth

>IRA, and I tripled my 401(k) contribution. I put my studio back together

>after taking it apart to record others and to participate in Different Skies

>( http://www.differentskies.com ) and I was able to finally add the KSP8,

>the Eventide 4000 (wish I could afford an 8000A...) and the Echoplex Digital

>looper that I've been lusting for. I even started playing EWI... Phew!
>
>So, guess what? After all that, I should actually have time to work on

>Paris again this year! Woohoo...! OK, question time - "Is WDM dead?"
Is
>ASIO the only way to go now? Is Audition the only program that requires
WDM
>drivers any more? What about plugin formats? Is VST the way to go instead

>of DirectX or is that still up in the air?
>
>Happy New Year!
>
>Doug
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>http://www.dougwellington.com
>
>Often if you open the side panel on your case it stops the correct air flow,
and you can have more heating problems. For testing, you could open your
case and try using a house fan and have it blow directly in to the case on
low or medium.

A couple of years ago in the summer when it was vary hot, a friend had over
heating problems with his Athlon. This was partly due to him not having
AC. He opened up the case and used a 13" house fan, problem solved. You
could have roasted a 25 pound turkey in two hours in that bed room though:
)

James

"Mike Audet" <mike@.....com> wrote:
>
>Hi Jim,
>
>This sounds to me like a cooling problem.
>
>What has worked for me is leaving an empty PCI slot between my EDS cards
>and cutting a round hole in the side of my case and mounting a colling fan
>that blows heat away from the eds cards.
>
>No more clicks.
>
>I would try running with the side of your case removed and see if the clicks
>still happen. I bet they won't.
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>"jim" <jim@redgateguitars.com> wrote:
>>Hi Everybody...My first post to the group... Happy new year... Hey does
>
>>anyone have a suggestion for a intermittent clipping sound which happens
>on
>>random empty channels to the right of an operating channel? I know this
>
>>sounds weird but the channel can be empty with the fader turned down and
>I
>>still get a click every few seconds... It still happens with nothing plugged
>
>>into the inputs of Paris. I can see the click on the level indicator
>>onscreen. It can happen on any channel but it is always to the right of
>an
>>operating channel, and usually an unused one. I hear it on playback but
>more
>>importantly on my mixdowns as well. I have reloaded the software but as
>yet
>>have not managed to track the problem down...
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Jim.
>>
>>
>Well done.

Does the wife get to watch? Or film it? Or what?

Jimmy


"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43b98bb8$1@linux...
>
> Very nice. I need to a) get a wife and b) start a band called "Wicked Hot
> Drug Fueled Threesome With Sophia Vergara and Maria Sharapova." And
forward
> this posting to my wife, of course.
>
> TCB
>Welcome aboard Jim,

I was having click/pop problems when I built my last AMD box running 2 EDS
cards. I would hear these pops and see these little spikes in the editor,
and even stranger still, I would close the project, reboot the box, go back
to the same project and the pops were in different locations. I installed
new 400W pwr supply, re-vamped my cooling setup and still had problems.
Turns out, it was bad ram, swapped the ram and pops went away.....strange
but true.

Good luck man.
Rob_A
www.studiomanitou.com

"jim" <jim@redgateguitars.com> wrote in message news:43b9bc76$1@linux...
> Hi Everybody...My first post to the group... Happy new year... Hey does
> anyone have a suggestion for a intermittent clipping sound which happens
on
> random empty channels to the right of an operating channel? I know this
> sounds weird but the channel can be empty with the fader turned down and I
> still get a click every few seconds... It still happens with nothing
plugged
> into the inputs of Paris. I can see the click on the level indicator
> onscreen. It can happen on any channel but it is always to the right of an
> operating channel, and usually an unused one. I hear it on playback but
more
> importantly on my mixdowns as well. I have reloaded the software but as
yet
> have not managed to track the problem down...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim.
>
>Hi James,

I agree that your advice is better. I found that just opening the case worked
for me, but the fan idea is safer.

Let's hope it works out for him.

Mike

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Often if you open the side panel on your case it stops the correct air flow,
>and you can have more heating problems. For testing, you could open your
>case and try using a house fan and have it blow directly in to the case
on
>low or medium.
>
>A couple of years ago in the summer when it was vary hot, a friend had over
>heating problems with his Athlon. This was partly due to him not having
>AC. He opened up the case and used a 13" house fan, problem solved. You
>could have roasted a 25 pound turkey in two hours in that bed room though:
> )
>
>James
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@.....com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Jim,
>>
>>This sounds to me like a cooling problem.
>>
>>What has worked for me is leaving an empty PCI slot between my EDS cards
>>and cutting a round hole in the side of my case and mounting a colling
fan
>>that blows heat away from the eds cards.
>>
>>No more clicks.
&
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Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Senior Member
h looping enabled
>
>During Playback or Recording
>
> DON'T
> * change inserts (native or eds)
> * move loop or punch points
> * enable or disable loop or punch
>
>Rendering
>
> DON'T
> * render tracks with different lengths
>
>NoLimit
>
> DON'T
> * use 0 or 50 valuesSO we've been using a 27" up til now.The wifey and I are
thinking of getting a new tv.We started out looking at 30-32"
tube HDTVs,but then the picture quality of the lcds started to
wow us.

Now I see you can get 42" projection DLP and Lcds for less than
2 grand.So our budget has maybe doubled from what we were
thinking at first.We just don't want to buy something then want
something else a couple of years later.

Anybody got some cool sets their running or have any advice.

I'm really eyeing the Sony 42" projection LCD pretty good right
now.

TIA,
PeteHey Guys,

Is anyone using a Fatso unit? If, what do like about it and what does it
do for your mixes? ThanksYou can mix files any way you like. The Paris 16/24 selector simply decides
what you will record at it you record tracks or bounce a mix right now. Paris
will, however, play back any combination of 16 and 24 bit tracks you throw
at it.

If you want your project to remain 16 bit only you'll have to convert the
tracks to 16 bit before importing them, by using Wavelab or something.

Cheers,
Kim.


"JD" <no@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>Can you import 24bit wav. or SD II files in to a 16bit PARIS project? If
>so, what happens to the 24 bit files, are they truncated? Will it screw
>up the sound of the 24bit files?
>
>Thanks
>JDI you have any digital gear interfacing with the Paris spdif I/O and the RME
spdif I/O and you have created a routing matrix between a DAW running as an
external FX processor and a control for digital patchbay routing which is
controlling the I/O routing between your Paris DAW and your Cubase SX DAW as
follows:

Paris Submix 1
Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1
Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2
Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3
Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4
Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5
Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6
Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7
Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8
Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9
Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 10
Cubase CH 11>RME 1 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 11
Cubase CH 12>RME 1 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 12
Cubase CH 13>RME 1 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 13
Cubase CH 14>RME 1 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 14
Cubase ST CH 15L/ Stereo Group 1 L> RME 1 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 15
Cubase ST CH 15R/ Stereo Group 1 R> RME 1 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 16

Paris Submix #2

Cubase CH 16>RME 1 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 1
Cubase CH 17>RME 1 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 2
Cubase CH 18>RME 1 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 3
Cubase CH 19>RME 1 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 4
Cubase CH 20>RME 1 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 5
Cubase CH 21>RME 1 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 6
Cubase CH 22>RME 1 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris CH 7
Cubase CH 23>RME 1 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris CH 8

Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #2 bussing to Paris Submix 2 AND 3

Cubase CH 24>RME 2 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 9
Cubase CH 25>RME 2 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 10
Cubase CH 26>RME 2 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 11
Cubase CH 27>RME 2 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 12
Cubase CH 28>RME 2 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 13
Cubase CH 29>RME 2 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 14
Cubase CH 30>RME 2 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 15
Cubase CH 31>RME 2 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 16

Paris Submix #3

Cubase CH 32>RME 2 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 1
Cubase CH 33>RME 2 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 2
Cubase CH 34>RME 2 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 3
Cubase CH 35>RME 2 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 4
Cubase CH 36>RME 2 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 5
Cubase CH 37>RME 2 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 6
Cubase CH 38>RME 2 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 7
Cubase CH 39>RME 2 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 8
Cubase CH 40>RME 2 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 9
Cubase CH 41>RME 2 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 10
Cubase CH 42>RME 2 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 11
Cubase CH 43>RME 2 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 12
Cubase CH 45>RME 2 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 13
Cubase CH 46>RME 2 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 14
Cubase ST CH 47L/ Stereo Group 2 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris CH 15
Cubase ST CH 48R/ Stereo Group 2 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris CH 16

.........then you need to remember to turn on all of the external digital
procesors that5 are interfacing with Paris and Cubase through the digital
patchbay or directly before you turn on your external word clock module,
followed by booting the DAW which is running the control panel for your
digital patchbays and starting the digital FX processors in this box, then
boot your Paris DAW, launch the Paris app and then boot your Cubase DAW and
launch cubase. If you don't do it in this order, Paris will crash.....and
I'm pretty pissed that this was nowhere in the manual.

;oD



"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43bb2108@linux...
> Can anyone add or clarify my new list of Paris no nos ?
>
>
>
> Things to keep you from crashing.
>
>
> In STOP mode
>
> DON'T
> * select a new Native Effect if the current one is open
> * enter record mode without first setting your record path (Ctrl-R)
> * use the name of the project for your recording path
> * save with looping enabled
>
> During Playback or Recording
>
> DON'T
> * change inserts (native or eds)
> * move loop or punch points
> * enable or disable loop or punch
>
> Rendering
>
> DON'T
> * render tracks with different lengths
>
> NoLimit
>
> DON'T
> * use 0 or 50 values"Jim Romanow" <balhat@earthlink.net> wrote
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Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
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Senior Member
:1@linux" target="_blank">1@linux">news:43b985f7$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt; =
Found the=20
problem. Didn't have the "allow users to change my files" <BR>&gt;=20
settings<BR>&gt; clicked on the SX computer so though I could transfer =
from=20
the SX DAw to <BR>&gt; the<BR>&gt; Paris DAW (backasswards from what I =
need to=20
be doing), I couldn't transfer<BR>&gt; from the Paris DAw to the =
Cubase=20
DAW.&nbsp; Pilot error .......as usual.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Seems like I =
need to=20
build a DAW a week just to keep my syanpses firing<BR>&gt; properly. =
When I go=20
for a couple of years, I forget one of the<BR>&gt; 327443333333337892 =
simple=20
little things that are necessary to make this<BR>&gt; =
happen.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
I did talk to Chris Ludwig earlier today. It ws gratifying to know=20
that<BR>&gt; 99.9% of the wierdness I've experienced while building =
this DAW=20
has also<BR>&gt; been encountered by others.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
OK.......now=20
where was I????<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; ;o)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "EK Sound" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt; <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43b97979$1@linux">news:43b97979$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt; =
That was=20
the issue here... sometimes it would work, other times... =
not<BR>&gt;&gt; so=20
much.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; David.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; DJ=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; Nope......didn't work after =
all.........Grrrrrrrr=20
...........;o(<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; "DJ" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43b972eb$1@linux">news:43b972eb$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;I fixed this by going into my ME networking =
and=20
setting up a the drives<BR>&gt; to<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;access using a=20
password. I have no idea why it should need this now, <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;but<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;it's just a small thing and it's =
working now=20
so I'm not gonna worry<BR>&gt; about<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;it. pita=20
though.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Deej<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;"EK Sound" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;news:43b95eb1@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Our networking guys for the office =
shudder=20
everytime they hear "ME"...<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; we actually =
had to=20
remove ME from all our office machines because<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;they=20
were so unstable with the new network we installed =
recently.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;David.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;DJ wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;What's strange about this is =
that it=20
was workig perfectly with my<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;=20
other<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;DAW.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I hven't made any changes at all =
to any=20
settings on the Paris DAW<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;running<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;ME.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;"EK Sound" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com</A>=
&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;news:43b952b4$1@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;ME does NOT play nice with NT/2000/XP for=20
networking.&nbsp; You may want<BR>&gt; to<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;look=20
at going back to 98SE instead as this is way more network<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; friendly.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;David.<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;DJ wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I just set up =
my=20
network connections between both my DAWs. They are<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;seeing<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;each other's HD's and I have unrestricted =
sharing set.=20
However, I<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; can't<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;transfer files from my Paris =
DAW=20
anymore. For some reason, even<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;=20
though<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;the<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;folders are set up for sharing, the sub =
directories=20
and the folders<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;within<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;these =
subdirectories have=20
somehow been set to where I have to go<BR>&gt; into<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;every<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;subdirectory level and set each folder to =
share. This=20
machine is<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;running<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Windows ME. I have =
literally=20
hundreds of subdirectories and sub-sub<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;directories within my main directories. How =
could this=20
happen? <BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Prior<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; to<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;hooking up this new DAW, I just set my main=20
directories to share on<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;both<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;machines=20
and I could shuttle stuff back and forth all day long. The<BR>&gt;&gt; =

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Ahhh, Tom Boyles, that's it. Lot of Tommy B's in this hood.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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Kent,
I'm in the Boston area. I know there's a bay around here somewhere...
There's Tom Boyles and Tom Bancroft too.
The other Tom

"RK" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
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Cool, I'll give that a try.

Tom, didn't you used to be down in the Bay Area? I'm just getting =
back into Paris, but I thought you were trying to get a Bay Area user =
group going a couple years back. =20

Kent
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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RK,
I've never used an out of phase signal for this purpose. I have
used something similar though. Copy lead vocal track to an
adjacent channel, pan each hard lft-rt, move the left track a =
millisecond or
even less back in time. The vocal should widen without sounding
processed. Keep their faders equal level. Your ear will =
naturally hear the
earlier track (lft) first and perceive that it's louder. If you =
feel that's disconcerting=20
try raising the right to level it out. This may decrease the =
effectiveness of the=20
process though.

Another way to get it to sound more present is to double
compress the track with comps in series but only reducing by 2 or =
3db each.
Sometimes a third comp is needed along with level automation. The =
idea
is to not hear pumping but have a fairly steady state level to the =
vocal.
This will allow you to get it to ride on top of the mix without =
jumping out
to bite you.
"RK" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:43bc7a43@linux...
Trying to get lead vocals to jump out of the mix and I remember =
a trick
listed somewhere telling you to copy a vocal track to a =
different track, pan
tracks left and right, then reverse the phase on the second =
track and slowly
bring the fader on the second track to meet the other track =
fader at 0.
Seemed to work, but the effects seemed to cancel each other out. =
Does
anyone use this, and if so, how do you get the FX to not whack =
each other
out?

RK,
Only apply effects to the +phase track.
Tom
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try.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom, didn't you used to be down in =
the Bay=20
Area?&nbsp; I'm just getting back into Paris, but I thought you were =
trying=20
to get a Bay Area user group going&nbsp;a couple years back.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kent</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:43bc8234@linux">news:43bc8234@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RK,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've never used an out of phase =
signal for=20
this purpose.&nbsp; I have</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>used something similar =
though.&nbsp; Copy=20
lead vocal track to an</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>adjacent channel, pan each hard =
lft-rt,=20
move&nbsp;the left&nbsp;track a millisecond or</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>even less back in time.&nbsp; The =
vocal=20
should widen without sounding</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>processed.&nbsp; Keep their =
faders equal=20
level.&nbsp; Your ear will naturally hear the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>earlier track (lft) first and =
perceive that=20
it's louder.&nbsp; If you feel that's disconcerting </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>try raising the right =
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>to level it out.&nbsp; This may decrease the =
effectiveness of the=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>process&nbsp;though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another way to get it to sound =
more present=20
is to double</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>compress the track with comps in =
series but=20
only reducing by 2 or 3db each.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sometimes a third comp is needed =
along with=20
level automation.&nbsp; The idea</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is to not hear pumping but have a =
fairly=20
steady state level to the vocal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This will allow you to get it to =
ride on top=20
of the mix without jumping out</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to bite you.</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV>"RK"
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