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Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably the
most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove nonstop
from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to La
Junta Colorado.
I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri didn't
really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the next
stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat in
Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the early
pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was wierd
to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with anti-abortion
signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway sort
of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50 miles,
then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the void,
only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on every
radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I felt
like I had driven 20 years backward in time.

Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.

Toto
Re: Kansas [message #69658 is a reply to message #69655] Sun, 25 June 2006 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:50:26 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably the
>most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove nonstop
>from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to La
>Junta Colorado.
>I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri didn't
>really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
>where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the next
>stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat in
>Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the early
>pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was wierd
>to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with anti-abortion
>signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway sort
>of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50 miles,
>then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the void,
>only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
>ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on every
>radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I felt
>like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>
>Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>
>Toto
>

Yep. The middle of the country be flat. Really flat.

It's kinda like Vegas, where you think that you can walk to Paris from
the Trop in something like 15 minutes because it doesn't look that
far, does it, dear?

37 hours later, when you've managed to make it to the Harley Cafe',
you realize that you need to drag your ass over to the monorail or
you're going to pass out somewhere before you hit Aladdin from the 112
degree heat.

pab
Re: Kansas [message #69659 is a reply to message #69655] Sun, 25 June 2006 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry
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When I moved out here from Nashville, I drove a moving truck all the way.
Not so bad out of Tennessee and Missouri, but then we hit Kansas.

Kansas is uphill all the way going west for anyone who's never driven that
stretch of I-70. To get near the speed limit (okay 15mph shy at 50), I had
to floor it and keep it there - it just poked along at 50, dead on, not a
wiggle, not a hint of 51 or 49. One stretch (between gas stops) was 4 hours
of nothing changing inside the truck or out. I almost thought of putting a
box on the accelerator and moving to the passenger seat to read a
book...just to be sure time hadn't stopped.

"There's no place like home. There's no place like home." Really? Was OZ
that bad?

The Tinman

On 6/25/06 3:50 PM, in article 449f057c@linux, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably the
> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove nonstop
> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to La
> Junta Colorado.
> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri didn't
> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the next
> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat in
> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the early
> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was wierd
> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with anti-abortion
> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway sort
> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50 miles,
> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the void,
> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on every
> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I felt
> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>
> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>
> Toto
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69660 is a reply to message #69655] Sun, 25 June 2006 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dubya Mark Wilson is currently offline  Dubya Mark Wilson   UNITED STATES
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Deej, now you know precisely why I chose Kansas when I wrote the following a
few weeks back on the general "column."

==================================================
Provocative discussion on Cavuto today, FOXnews; neogtiating with OBL.
Several notions were batted around on both sides but one guy pretty much
spoke my mind when he asked "what kind of negotiation can be had where the
starting point is that each party knows the other party wants the other one
dead as soon as possible?"

After that segment, I started thinking of "Running Man" because that's what
OBL already is. I wondered what he might settle for if he knew the
handwriting is on the wall. If I were as sinister as the mindset in he
aforementioned movie, I think I'd have no problem with offering OBL the
following deal:

1. Turn yourself over to us.
2. We arrest you for one day at most in a nice federal safehouse.
3. We talk for several minutes about whatever you like.
4. We give you $100k in twenties and a $300 Haliburton brief case.
5. You get a couple of good meals and good night's rest.
6. You are released at 610 N Main Street in Russel, Kansas the next day at
9AM.
7. API gets the lowdown at 9:15 AM on our "deal" except that your location
is not announced.
9. Go wherever you like, stay as long there as you like.
10. Kansas is kinda big.
11. The tallest wheat is west of town.
12. The first bus comes at 10:02 AM.
13. Good luck.

Dubya
Re: Kansas [message #69661 is a reply to message #69655] Sun, 25 June 2006 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dubya Mark Wilson is currently offline  Dubya Mark Wilson   UNITED STATES
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And how is 70 anymore? The last time I traversed the country on 70 was
1990...R-coast to L-coast, stayed at Rod's place for a day in KC. I don't
know if they've spent any money on 70 since then but I'd say it was THE
WORST interstate ending in Zero we had at that time and had been that way
for 10 years.

I'll add this positive aspect of Kansas; I enjoyed EVERY firework display in
the state Colorado on the evening of July 4, 1990 and I saw all of them
from, you guessed it, Kansas. Somewhere in that same trip, I was almost
sucked of the raod by a Tornado that wiped out a good bit of Limon area, CO.

Dubya out
Re: Kansas [message #69665 is a reply to message #69655] Sun, 25 June 2006 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I felt
>like I had driven 20 years backward in time.


And then, you pulled into a gas station. The pump said "eythl",
and the price was 98 cents/gallon.

wwoo eeee OooOOOO
Re: Kansas [message #69668 is a reply to message #69661] Sun, 25 June 2006 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Hey Mark....remember when we accidently dialed Afganastan or somewhere like
that when you were at my house? I think you were trying to show me some trick
on the phone that had to do with counting a certain number of seconds before
hitting the last number.
Rod

P.S Just got back from vacation, and am leaving for Vegas in the morn for
a corperate gig. Back Tues night. Man.....I had some withdrawls from this
place.
"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>And how is 70 anymore? The last time I traversed the country on 70 was

>1990...R-coast to L-coast, stayed at Rod's place for a day in KC. I don't

>know if they've spent any money on 70 since then but I'd say it was THE

>WORST interstate ending in Zero we had at that time and had been that way

>for 10 years.
>
>I'll add this positive aspect of Kansas; I enjoyed EVERY firework display
in
>the state Colorado on the evening of July 4, 1990 and I saw all of them

>from, you guessed it, Kansas. Somewhere in that same trip, I was almost

>sucked of the raod by a Tornado that wiped out a good bit of Limon area,
CO.
>
>Dubya out
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69670 is a reply to message #69655] Mon, 26 June 2006 01:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
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This is a funny post, because it's so true. I have done I-70 through Kansas
many many times - 3 times within the last year. I don't remember any
*without* the friggin' crosswind blowing 30 mph. I highly recommend the Red
Sun chinese buffet's Mongolian BBQ in Hays, it's by the Walmart off the
highway. If you're heading west during the daytime and it's clear, it's
kinda cool to look up and watch all of the airplane trails heading west....
rows of lines pointing to Denver.

-Carl


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:449f057c@linux...
> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
the
> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
nonstop
> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
La
> Junta Colorado.
> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
didn't
> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
next
> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat
in
> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
early
> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
wierd
> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
anti-abortion
> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
sort
> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
miles,
> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
void,
> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on every
> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
felt
> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>
> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>
> Toto
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69671 is a reply to message #69668] Mon, 26 June 2006 01:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dubya Mark Wilson is currently offline  Dubya Mark Wilson   UNITED STATES
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Bogota as I recall. And it wasn't trickery at play... it was an MCI
calling card number that ended in a sequence which confused KC local routing
for national domestic LD with international dialing, specifically, Columbia,
South America country code. That was a weird day. As Nic Cage said in Con
Air while that brand new corvette was dangling at 400 feet like an empty
cereal box off the back of that C-130, "On any other day, that would seem
entirely unusual" but that whole weekend was just odd, including the drive
through KS and CO the next day.

Hey, Rod you weren't with SW the night the old 20-ton straight truck gel'd
up diesel between LV and Reno, were you?

Mark

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:449f696f$1@linux...
>
> Hey Mark....remember when we accidently dialed Afganastan or somewhere
> like
> that when you were at my house? I think you were trying to show me some
> trick
> on the phone that had to do with counting a certain number of seconds
> before
> hitting the last number.
> Rod
>
> P.S Just got back from vacation, and am leaving for Vegas in the morn for
> a corperate gig. Back Tues night. Man.....I had some withdrawls from this
> place.
> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>And how is 70 anymore? The last time I traversed the country on 70 was
>
>>1990...R-coast to L-coast, stayed at Rod's place for a day in KC. I don't
>
>>know if they've spent any money on 70 since then but I'd say it was THE
>
>>WORST interstate ending in Zero we had at that time and had been that way
>
>>for 10 years.
>>
>>I'll add this positive aspect of Kansas; I enjoyed EVERY firework display
> in
>>the state Colorado on the evening of July 4, 1990 and I saw all of them
>
>>from, you guessed it, Kansas. Somewhere in that same trip, I was almost
>
>>sucked of the raod by a Tornado that wiped out a good bit of Limon area,
> CO.
>>
>>Dubya out
>>
>>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69672 is a reply to message #69670] Mon, 26 June 2006 01:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dubya Mark Wilson is currently offline  Dubya Mark Wilson   UNITED STATES
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Wasn't it Steven Wright, the comedian, whose dry one-liner it was that,
"Some people have a fear of heights.... I have a fear width.... Texas
terrifies me."

Oh, heck... I've started a whole new threads now... I can hear it coming
already

Dubya

"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:449f952a$1@linux...
> This is a funny post, because it's so true. I have done I-70 through
> Kansas
> many many times - 3 times within the last year. I don't remember any
> *without* the friggin' crosswind blowing 30 mph. I highly recommend the
> Red
> Sun chinese buffet's Mongolian BBQ in Hays, it's by the Walmart off the
> highway. If you're heading west during the daytime and it's clear, it's
> kinda cool to look up and watch all of the airplane trails heading
> west....
> rows of lines pointing to Denver.
>
> -Carl
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:449f057c@linux...
>> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
> the
>> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
> nonstop
>> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
> La
>> Junta Colorado.
>> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
> didn't
>> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
>> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
> next
>> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat
> in
>> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
> early
>> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
> wierd
>> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
> anti-abortion
>> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
> sort
>> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
> miles,
>> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
> void,
>> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
>> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
>> every
>> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
> felt
>> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>
>> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>
>> Toto
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69673 is a reply to message #69672] Mon, 26 June 2006 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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I've driven across Texas north-to-south (Amarillo to Brownsville) and
east-to-west (both Texarkana to El Paso and Beaumont to El Paso) and
"perceptually", it didn't seem to take as long as driving across Kansas.
Perhaps it's because the terrain changes make it seem like you're actually
making some kind of progress rather than sitting in your car with the engine
running while moving backwards in time.

;o)



"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
news:449f968a$1@linux...
> Wasn't it Steven Wright, the comedian, whose dry one-liner it was that,
> "Some people have a fear of heights.... I have a fear width.... Texas
> terrifies me."
>
> Oh, heck... I've started a whole new threads now... I can hear it coming
> already
>
> Dubya
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> news:449f952a$1@linux...
> > This is a funny post, because it's so true. I have done I-70 through
> > Kansas
> > many many times - 3 times within the last year. I don't remember any
> > *without* the friggin' crosswind blowing 30 mph. I highly recommend the
> > Red
> > Sun chinese buffet's Mongolian BBQ in Hays, it's by the Walmart off the
> > highway. If you're heading west during the daytime and it's clear, it's
> > kinda cool to look up and watch all of the airplane trails heading
> > west....
> > rows of lines pointing to Denver.
> >
> > -Carl
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:449f057c@linux...
> >> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
> > the
> >> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
> > nonstop
> >> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio
to
> > La
> >> Junta Colorado.
> >> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
> > didn't
> >> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
> >> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
> >> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
> > next
> >> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
> >> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of
flat
> > in
> >> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
> > early
> >> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
> > wierd
> >> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
> > anti-abortion
> >> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
> > sort
> >> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
> > miles,
> >> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
> > void,
> >> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti
abortion
> >> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
> >> every
> >> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
> > felt
> >> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
> >>
> >> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
> >>
> >> Toto
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69675 is a reply to message #69659] Mon, 26 June 2006 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sound Dog is currently offline  Sound Dog   AUSTRALIA
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Member
I've heard that OZ is actually worse. If you're talking about crossing the
middle of Australia that is. 52 degrees (don't know what that is in
fahrenheit) and the occasional motel / petrol pump, and the likelhood of a
kangaroo jumping out in front of you and introducing your front suspension
to your firewall.

So I've heard anyway...

Kansas, now that sounds like fun. Or hey, Nevada, in a supercharged
Challenger. Just like in the movie, except without the cops and the dying
and the car exploding and stuff.

Stewart.


Dedric Terry wrote in message ...
>When I moved out here from Nashville, I drove a moving truck all the way.
>Not so bad out of Tennessee and Missouri, but then we hit Kansas.
>
>Kansas is uphill all the way going west for anyone who's never driven that
>stretch of I-70. To get near the speed limit (okay 15mph shy at 50), I had
>to floor it and keep it there - it just poked along at 50, dead on, not a
>wiggle, not a hint of 51 or 49. One stretch (between gas stops) was 4
hours
>of nothing changing inside the truck or out. I almost thought of putting a
>box on the accelerator and moving to the passenger seat to read a
>book...just to be sure time hadn't stopped.
>
>"There's no place like home. There's no place like home." Really? Was OZ
>that bad?
>
>The Tinman
>
>On 6/25/06 3:50 PM, in article 449f057c@linux, "DJ"
><animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
the
>> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
nonstop
>> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
La
>> Junta Colorado.
>> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
didn't
>> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
>> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
next
>> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat
in
>> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
early
>> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
wierd
>> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
anti-abortion
>> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
sort
>> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
miles,
>> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
void,
>> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
>> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
every
>> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
felt
>> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>
>> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>
>> Toto
>>
>>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69677 is a reply to message #69655] Mon, 26 June 2006 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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You just described Saskatchewan! It's the next province over... ;-)
they put a jog in the road every 20 miles or so just to keep you awake.

David.

DJ wrote:
> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably the
> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove nonstop
> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to La
> Junta Colorado.
> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri didn't
> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the next
> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat in
> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the early
> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was wierd
> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with anti-abortion
> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway sort
> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50 miles,
> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the void,
> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on every
> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I felt
> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>
> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>
> Toto
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69678 is a reply to message #69677] Mon, 26 June 2006 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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Don't forget Manitoba...pretty flat there too

Don


"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44a00629@linux...
> You just described Saskatchewan! It's the next province over... ;-) they
> put a jog in the road every 20 miles or so just to keep you awake.
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
>> the
>> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
>> nonstop
>> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
>> La
>> Junta Colorado.
>> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
>> didn't
>> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
>> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
>> next
>> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat
>> in
>> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
>> early
>> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
>> wierd
>> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
>> anti-abortion
>> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
>> sort
>> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
>> miles,
>> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
>> void,
>> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
>> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
>> every
>> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
>> felt
>> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>
>> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>
>> Toto
>>
Re: Kansas [message #69679 is a reply to message #69678] Mon, 26 June 2006 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
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Yah, but you usually can't see farther than 50' there because of the
clouds of mosquitoes (the provincial bird)... ;-)

David.

Don Nafe wrote:

> Don't forget Manitoba...pretty flat there too
>
> Don
>
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44a00629@linux...
>
>>You just described Saskatchewan! It's the next province over... ;-) they
>>put a jog in the road every 20 miles or so just to keep you awake.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>>I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
>>>the
>>>most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
>>>nonstop
>>>from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
>>>La
>>>Junta Colorado.
>>>I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
>>>didn't
>>>really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>>>thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
>>>where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
>>>next
>>>stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>>>Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat
>>>in
>>>Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
>>>early
>>>pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
>>>wierd
>>>to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
>>>anti-abortion
>>>signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
>>>sort
>>>of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
>>>miles,
>>>then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
>>>void,
>>>only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
>>>ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
>>>every
>>>radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
>>>felt
>>>like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>>
>>>Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>>
>>>Toto
>>>
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69680 is a reply to message #69659] Mon, 26 June 2006 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
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Kansas is uphill all the way going west for anyone who's never driven that
stretch of I-70.

I had a feeling like I was struggling with some unknown force the whole
time..........and now I know what..........gravity!! It makes sense. Heading
west, you're definitely slowly climbing toward the foothills of the Rocky
Mountains..........soooo........I guess if I was seaded east, I could put
the car in neutral and just coast across Kansas?

;o)


"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C0C47BCD.16A2%dterry@keyofd.net...
> When I moved out here from Nashville, I drove a moving truck all the way.
> Not so bad out of Tennessee and Missouri, but then we hit Kansas.
>
> Kansas is uphill all the way going west for anyone who's never driven that
> stretch of I-70. To get near the speed limit (okay 15mph shy at 50), I
had
> to floor it and keep it there - it just poked along at 50, dead on, not a
> wiggle, not a hint of 51 or 49. One stretch (between gas stops) was 4
hours
> of nothing changing inside the truck or out. I almost thought of putting
a
> box on the accelerator and moving to the passenger seat to read a
> book...just to be sure time hadn't stopped.
>
> "There's no place like home. There's no place like home." Really? Was
OZ
> that bad?
>
> The Tinman
>
> On 6/25/06 3:50 PM, in article 449f057c@linux, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> > I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
the
> > most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
nonstop
> > from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
La
> > Junta Colorado.
> > I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
didn't
> > really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
> > thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
> > where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
next
> > stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
> > Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of
flat in
> > Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
early
> > pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
wierd
> > to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
anti-abortion
> > signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
sort
> > of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
miles,
> > then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
void,
> > only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti
abortion
> > ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
every
> > radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
felt
> > like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
> >
> > Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
> >
> > Toto
> >
> >
>
Re: Kansas [message #69682 is a reply to message #69658] Mon, 26 June 2006 10:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
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Oh man, I hear ya about Vegas. It's forced perspective in reverse. They make
everything so huge it looks closer together! Sure honey. Let's just walk
over to the Hard Rock. It doesn't look that far. Ha! We almost died! "Drinks
in the snack-a-teria, on me." ;>)

Tony


"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:vu6u921qtb0gg4ie3m8bn8t34fu3vv92ed@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:50:26 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>>I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
>>the
>>most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
>>nonstop
>>from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
>>La
>>Junta Colorado.
>>I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
>>didn't
>>really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>>thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
>>where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
>>next
>>stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>>Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat
>>in
>>Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
>>early
>>pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
>>wierd
>>to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
>>anti-abortion
>>signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
>>sort
>>of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
>>miles,
>>then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
>>void,
>>only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
>>ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on every
>>radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
>>felt
>>like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>
>>Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>
>>Toto
>>
>
> Yep. The middle of the country be flat. Really flat.
>
> It's kinda like Vegas, where you think that you can walk to Paris from
> the Trop in something like 15 minutes because it doesn't look that
> far, does it, dear?
>
> 37 hours later, when you've managed to make it to the Harley Cafe',
> you realize that you need to drag your ass over to the monorail or
> you're going to pass out somewhere before you hit Aladdin from the 112
> degree heat.
>
> pab
Re: Kansas [message #69683 is a reply to message #69655] Mon, 26 June 2006 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
It sounds like Nebraska. On one trip to visit my uncle in Snowmass Village,
CO, I left Iowa on I-80, got West of Omaha, set the cruise, and went to
sleep. I woke up six hours later to the welcome to Colorado sign! Talk about
a straight, flat road! ;>)

Tony

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:449f057c@linux...
>I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably the
> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
> nonstop
> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
> La
> Junta Colorado.
> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
> didn't
> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
> next
> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat
> in
> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
> early
> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
> wierd
> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
> anti-abortion
> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
> sort
> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
> miles,
> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
> void,
> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on every
> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
> felt
> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>
> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>
> Toto
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69684 is a reply to message #69683] Mon, 26 June 2006 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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In Nebraska I-80 follows the Platte river valley, a long gentle descent
bringing Rocky Mountain runnoff to the Missouri river. The route is a
part of the Oregon trail. It became a logical place to put a relatively
safe, easy driving interstate. You could ALMOST drive it on auto-pilot
but there are a few curves here and there. :^)

Since many folks only experience Nebraska by driving through on I-80, a
common misconception is to equate Nebraska with that drive.

Nebraska has other terrain. For example, there are vast sandhill areas
in the west. In the North East you'll find hills left behind by
glaciation from the last ice age. The East has interesting river bluff
country along the Missouri river and its tributaries. Nebraska,
birthplace of Arbor Day, also has a large man-made national forest.

I like the open spaces in the West. We have some incredible areas. With
our demanding, busy lives it's often hard not to just blaze through them
with this or that destination in mind, but sometimes it's worth slowing
down and exploring along the way.

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com


Tony Benson wrote:
> It sounds like Nebraska. On one trip to visit my uncle in Snowmass Village,
> CO, I left Iowa on I-80, got West of Omaha, set the cruise, and went to
> sleep. I woke up six hours later to the welcome to Colorado sign! Talk about
> a straight, flat road! ;>)
>
> Tony
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:449f057c@linux...
>> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably the
>> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
>> nonstop
>> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
>> La
>> Junta Colorado.
>> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
>> didn't
>> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
>> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
>> next
>> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat
>> in
>> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
>> early
>> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
>> wierd
>> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
>> anti-abortion
>> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
>> sort
>> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
>> miles,
>> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
>> void,
>> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
>> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on every
>> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
>> felt
>> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>
>> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>
>> Toto
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69688 is a reply to message #69684] Mon, 26 June 2006 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
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I've driven thorough Western Nebraska many times when I was touring and it
does have some interesting topology. I was just being facetious. It's an old
joke with my family how boring that I-80 drive is as we've made the trip a
hundred times.

You sound a little like Alice Cooper in Wayne's World, explaining the
history of Milwaukee!

"Nebraska, birthplace of Arbor Day . . ." I'm not worthy! ;>)

Tony


"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:44a03140$1@linux...
>
> In Nebraska I-80 follows the Platte river valley, a long gentle descent
> bringing Rocky Mountain runnoff to the Missouri river. The route is a part
> of the Oregon trail. It became a logical place to put a relatively safe,
> easy driving interstate. You could ALMOST drive it on auto-pilot but there
> are a few curves here and there. :^)
>
> Since many folks only experience Nebraska by driving through on I-80, a
> common misconception is to equate Nebraska with that drive.
>
> Nebraska has other terrain. For example, there are vast sandhill areas in
> the west. In the North East you'll find hills left behind by glaciation
> from the last ice age. The East has interesting river bluff country along
> the Missouri river and its tributaries. Nebraska, birthplace of Arbor Day,
> also has a large man-made national forest.
>
> I like the open spaces in the West. We have some incredible areas. With
> our demanding, busy lives it's often hard not to just blaze through them
> with this or that destination in mind, but sometimes it's worth slowing
> down and exploring along the way.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Tony Benson wrote:
>> It sounds like Nebraska. On one trip to visit my uncle in Snowmass
>> Village, CO, I left Iowa on I-80, got West of Omaha, set the cruise, and
>> went to sleep. I woke up six hours later to the welcome to Colorado sign!
>> Talk about a straight, flat road! ;>)
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:449f057c@linux...
>>> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
>>> the
>>> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
>>> nonstop
>>> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
>>> La
>>> Junta Colorado.
>>> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
>>> didn't
>>> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>>> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
>>> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
>>> next
>>> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>>> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of
>>> flat in
>>> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
>>> early
>>> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
>>> wierd
>>> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
>>> anti-abortion
>>> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
>>> sort
>>> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
>>> miles,
>>> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
>>> void,
>>> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti
>>> abortion
>>> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
>>> every
>>> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
>>> felt
>>> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>>
>>> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>>
>>> Toto
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Kansas [message #69695 is a reply to message #69688] Mon, 26 June 2006 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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Tony Benson wrote:
> I've driven thorough Western Nebraska many times when I was touring and it
> does have some interesting topology. I was just being facetious. It's an old
> joke with my family how boring that I-80 drive is as we've made the trip a
> hundred times.
>
> You sound a little like Alice Cooper in Wayne's World, explaining the
> history of Milwaukee!

Heh. Yeah, if Alice grew up in Nebraska. Sorry I went all pedantic on ya
Tony.

I've made the drive a zillion times, too. Did I mention the many clean
Nebraska rest stops, with maps, weather/road reports and abstract
sculpture displays. I, uh, oh, sorry. :^)

I've also spent a fair amount of time going to and from to New Mexico,
Arizona, Southern California, Northern California, Oregon and
Washington. Lots of great country along the way. I really like the drive
through Deej's four corners area. And the vast stretches of I-80 through
Utah and Nevada. Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, great country. And of course,
Colorado.

OK, now I'm itchin' for a road trip!

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com



> "Nebraska, birthplace of Arbor Day . . ." I'm not worthy! ;>)
>
> Tony
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:44a03140$1@linux...
>> In Nebraska I-80 follows the Platte river valley, a long gentle descent
>> bringing Rocky Mountain runnoff to the Missouri river. The route is a part
>> of the Oregon trail. It became a logical place to put a relatively safe,
>> easy driving interstate. You could ALMOST drive it on auto-pilot but there
>> are a few curves here and there. :^)
>>
>> Since many folks only experience Nebraska by driving through on I-80, a
>> common misconception is to equate Nebraska with that drive.
>>
>> Nebraska has other terrain. For example, there are vast sandhill areas in
>> the west. In the North East you'll find hills left behind by glaciation
>> from the last ice age. The East has interesting river bluff country along
>> the Missouri river and its tributaries. Nebraska, birthplace of Arbor Day,
>> also has a large man-made national forest.
>>
>> I like the open spaces in the West. We have some incredible areas. With
>> our demanding, busy lives it's often hard not to just blaze through them
>> with this or that destination in mind, but sometimes it's worth slowing
>> down and exploring along the way.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Tony Benson wrote:
>>> It sounds like Nebraska. On one trip to visit my uncle in Snowmass
>>> Village, CO, I left Iowa on I-80, got West of Omaha, set the cruise, and
>>> went to sleep. I woke up six hours later to the welcome to Colorado sign!
>>> Talk about a straight, flat road! ;>)
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>> news:449f057c@linux...
>>>> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
>>>> the
>>>> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
>>>> nonstop
>>>> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
>>>> La
>>>> Junta Colorado.
>>>> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
>>>> didn't
>>>> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>>>> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
>>>> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
>>>> next
>>>> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>>>> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of
>>>> flat in
>>>> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
>>>> early
>>>> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
>>>> wierd
>>>> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
>>>> anti-abortion
>>>> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
>>>> sort
>>>> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
>>>> miles,
>>>> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
>>>> void,
>>>> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti
>>>> abortion
>>>> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
>>>> every
>>>> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
>>>> felt
>>>> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>>>
>>>> Toto
>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69699 is a reply to message #69673] Mon, 26 June 2006 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:449fee07@linux...
I've driven across Texas north-to-south (Amarillo to Brownsville) and
east-to-west (both Texarkana to El Paso and Beaumont to El Paso) and
"perceptually", it didn't seem to take as long as driving across =
Kansas.
Perhaps it's because the terrain changes make it seem like you're =
actually
making some kind of progress rather than sitting in your car with the =
engine
running while moving backwards in time.

;o)



"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
news:449f968a$1@linux...
> Wasn't it Steven Wright, the comedian, whose dry one-liner it was =
that,
> "Some people have a fear of heights.... I have a fear width.... =
Texas
> terrifies me."
>
> Oh, heck... I've started a whole new threads now... I can hear it =
coming
> already
>
> Dubya
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> news:449f952a$1@linux...
> > This is a funny post, because it's so true. I have done I-70 =
through
> > Kansas
> > many many times - 3 times within the last year. I don't remember =
any
> > *without* the friggin' crosswind blowing 30 mph. I highly =
recommend the
> > Red
> > Sun chinese buffet's Mongolian BBQ in Hays, it's by the Walmart =
off the
> > highway. If you're heading west during the daytime and it's clear, =
it's
> > kinda cool to look up and watch all of the airplane trails heading
> > west....
> > rows of lines pointing to Denver.
> >
> > -Carl
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:449f057c@linux...
> >> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that =
probably
> > the
> >> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I =
drove
> > nonstop
> >> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus =
Ohio
to
> > La
> >> Junta Colorado.
> >> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and =
Missouri
> > didn't
> >> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I =
never
> >> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of =
time warp
> >> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say =
that the
> > next
> >> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
> >> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition =
of
flat
> > in
> >> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder =
if the
> > early
> >> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that =
it was
> > wierd
> >> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
> > anti-abortion
> >> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the =
highway
> > sort
> >> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next =
50
> > miles,
> >> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of =
the
> > void,
> >> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti
abortion
> >> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music =
on
> >> every
> >> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last =
night, I
> > felt
> >> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
> >>
> >> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
> >>
> >> Toto
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>




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Re: Kansas [message #69700 is a reply to message #69695] Mon, 26 June 2006 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
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I know what you meant Jamie. It's the same when people judge Iowa by the
I-80 drive only. They think the whole state is just gently rolling corn and
soybean fields. What a minute . . . It is! ;>) Naw, if you look hard enough
we have some pretty stuff too.

Tony

On 6/26/06 10:36 PM, in article 44a0a66d@linux, "Jamie K"
<Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:

>
> Tony Benson wrote:
>> I've driven thorough Western Nebraska many times when I was touring and it
>> does have some interesting topology. I was just being facetious. It's an old
>> joke with my family how boring that I-80 drive is as we've made the trip a
>> hundred times.
>>
>> You sound a little like Alice Cooper in Wayne's World, explaining the
>> history of Milwaukee!
>
> Heh. Yeah, if Alice grew up in Nebraska. Sorry I went all pedantic on ya
> Tony.
>
> I've made the drive a zillion times, too. Did I mention the many clean
> Nebraska rest stops, with maps, weather/road reports and abstract
> sculpture displays. I, uh, oh, sorry. :^)
>
> I've also spent a fair amount of time going to and from to New Mexico,
> Arizona, Southern California, Northern California, Oregon and
> Washington. Lots of great country along the way. I really like the drive
> through Deej's four corners area. And the vast stretches of I-80 through
> Utah and Nevada. Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, great country. And of course,
> Colorado.
>
> OK, now I'm itchin' for a road trip!
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>> "Nebraska, birthplace of Arbor Day . . ." I'm not worthy! ;>)
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:44a03140$1@linux...
>>> In Nebraska I-80 follows the Platte river valley, a long gentle descent
>>> bringing Rocky Mountain runnoff to the Missouri river. The route is a part
>>> of the Oregon trail. It became a logical place to put a relatively safe,
>>> easy driving interstate. You could ALMOST drive it on auto-pilot but there
>>> are a few curves here and there. :^)
>>>
>>> Since many folks only experience Nebraska by driving through on I-80, a
>>> common misconception is to equate Nebraska with that drive.
>>>
>>> Nebraska has other terrain. For example, there are vast sandhill areas in
>>> the west. In the North East you'll find hills left behind by glaciation
>>> from the last ice age. The East has interesting river bluff country along
>>> the Missouri river and its tributaries. Nebraska, birthplace of Arbor Day,
>>> also has a large man-made national forest.
>>>
>>> I like the open spaces in the West. We have some incredible areas. With
>>> our demanding, busy lives it's often hard not to just blaze through them
>>> with this or that destination in mind, but sometimes it's worth slowing
>>> down and exploring along the way.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony Benson wrote:
>>>> It sounds like Nebraska. On one trip to visit my uncle in Snowmass
>>>> Village, CO, I left Iowa on I-80, got West of Omaha, set the cruise, and
>>>> went to sleep. I woke up six hours later to the welcome to Colorado sign!
>>>> Talk about a straight, flat road! ;>)
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:449f057c@linux...
>>>>> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
>>>>> the
>>>>> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
>>>>> nonstop
>>>>> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
>>>>> La
>>>>> Junta Colorado.
>>>>> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>>>>> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
>>>>> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
>>>>> next
>>>>> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>>>>> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of
>>>>> flat in
>>>>> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
>>>>> early
>>>>> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
>>>>> wierd
>>>>> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
>>>>> anti-abortion
>>>>> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
>>>>> sort
>>>>> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
>>>>> miles,
>>>>> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
>>>>> void,
>>>>> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti
>>>>> abortion
>>>>> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
>>>>> every
>>>>> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
>>>>> felt
>>>>> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Toto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
Re: Kansas [message #69702 is a reply to message #69699] Tue, 27 June 2006 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Driving tulsa to enid is similar to this. Three hours you can see the =
dang town, it looks close enough to reach out and touch at arms length =
and yet it's still a 3 hour trip. What a visually mind bending trip man.

AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44a0cb7c@linux...
Pennsylvania ain't no bargain either. . .


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:449fee07@linux...
I've driven across Texas north-to-south (Amarillo to Brownsville) =
and
east-to-west (both Texarkana to El Paso and Beaumont to El Paso) and
"perceptually", it didn't seem to take as long as driving across =
Kansas.
Perhaps it's because the terrain changes make it seem like you're =
actually
making some kind of progress rather than sitting in your car with =
the engine
running while moving backwards in time.

;o)



"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
news:449f968a$1@linux...
> Wasn't it Steven Wright, the comedian, whose dry one-liner it was =
that,
> "Some people have a fear of heights.... I have a fear width.... =
Texas
> terrifies me."
>
> Oh, heck... I've started a whole new threads now... I can hear it =
coming
> already
>
> Dubya
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> news:449f952a$1@linux...
> > This is a funny post, because it's so true. I have done I-70 =
through
> > Kansas
> > many many times - 3 times within the last year. I don't remember =
any
> > *without* the friggin' crosswind blowing 30 mph. I highly =
recommend the
> > Red
> > Sun chinese buffet's Mongolian BBQ in Hays, it's by the Walmart =
off the
> > highway. If you're heading west during the daytime and it's =
clear, it's
> > kinda cool to look up and watch all of the airplane trails =
heading
> > west....
> > rows of lines pointing to Denver.
> >
> > -Carl
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:449f057c@linux...
> >> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that =
probably
> > the
> >> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I =
drove
> > nonstop
> >> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from =
Columbus Ohio
to
> > La
> >> Junta Colorado.
> >> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and =
Missouri
> > didn't
> >> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I =
never
> >> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of =
time warp
> >> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say =
that the
> > next
> >> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
> >> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the =
definition of
flat
> > in
> >> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder =
if the
> > early
> >> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that =
it was
> > wierd
> >> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
> > anti-abortion
> >> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the =
highway
> > sort
> >> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the =
next 50
> > miles,
> >> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out =
of the
> > void,
> >> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like =
anti
abortion
> >> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's =
music on
> >> every
> >> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last =
night, I
> > felt
> >> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
> >>
> >> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
> >>
> >> Toto
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>




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Yeah,

Pennsylvania was a pretty long stretch.........but at least there is =
some variety to the terrain. what I found annoying about Pennsylavnia =
was that apparently the highway department there assumes that everyone =
who is driving on the highways is familir with Pennsylvania. The =
interstate highway names change without any signs at these changes which =
tell you where the *new* highway goes. If you are driving on Interstate =
84W coming out of NY state, it just ends at Interstate 81 North or =
South. You have to know that interstate 81 N actually goes west and =
intersects Interstate 80 west or that interstate 81 south connects to =
Interstate 76 W, but if you're actually trying to find I70 West, there =
is no sign that says "Pittsburg........this way" so that you know that =
this will happen. It's pretty easy to end up taking an unexpected detour =
through the Poconos (which ain't bad, but can be annoying if you aren't =
really wanting to do this. Also, the Interstates in Pennsylvania, NY and =
Ohio are under construction for long stretches. I was driving through =
Pennsylvania and NY on Friday and the construction delays really sucked. =
There were lost of commuters around Pittsburgh on Friday afternoon who =
were going postal. At one point, I sat stock still on I 76 for over an =
hour. The line of cars in front of me was so long that by the time =
traffic started moving again, what ever had been delaying things had =
totally disappeared without a trace. No way to know if it was a wreck of =
what.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44a0cb7c@linux...
Pennsylvania ain't no bargain either. . .


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:449fee07@linux...
I've driven across Texas north-to-south (Amarillo to Brownsville) =
and
east-to-west (both Texarkana to El Paso and Beaumont to El Paso) and
"perceptually", it didn't seem to take as long as driving across =
Kansas.
Perhaps it's because the terrain changes make it seem like you're =
actually
making some kind of progress rather than sitting in your car with =
the engine
running while moving backwards in time.

;o)



"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
news:449f968a$1@linux...
> Wasn't it Steven Wright, the comedian, whose dry one-liner it was =
that,
> "Some people have a fear of heights.... I have a fear width.... =
Texas
> terrifies me."
>
> Oh, heck... I've started a whole new threads now... I can hear it =
coming
> already
>
> Dubya
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> news:449f952a$1@linux...
> > This is a funny post, because it's so true. I have done I-70 =
through
> > Kansas
> > many many times - 3 times within the last year. I don't remember =
any
> > *without* the friggin' crosswind blowing 30 mph. I highly =
recommend the
> > Red
> > Sun chinese buffet's Mongolian BBQ in Hays, it's by the Walmart =
off the
> > highway. If you're heading west during the daytime and it's =
clear, it's
> > kinda cool to look up and watch all of the airplane trails =
heading
> > west....
> > rows of lines pointing to Denver.
> >
> > -Carl
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:449f057c@linux...
> >> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that =
probably
> > the
> >> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I =
drove
> > nonstop
> >> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from =
Columbus Ohio
to
> > La
> >> Junta Colorado.
> >> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and =
Missouri
> > didn't
> >> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I =
never
> >> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of =
time warp
> >> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say =
that the
> > next
> >> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
> >> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the =
definition of
flat
> > in
> >> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder =
if the
> > early
> >> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that =
it was
> > wierd
> >> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
> > anti-abortion
> >> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the =
highway
> > sort
> >> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the =
next 50
> > miles,
> >> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out =
of the
> > void,
> >> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like =
anti
abortion
> >> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's =
music on
> >> every
> >> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last =
night, I
> > felt
> >> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
> >>
> >> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
> >>
> >> Toto
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>




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Re: Kansas [message #69718 is a reply to message #69671] Tue, 27 June 2006 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
I don't think I was there during that time period. I can't believe you remember
all that stuff in that much detail.
I'm in Vegas right now. I'll be back home late tonight.
Rod
"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>Bogota as I recall. And it wasn't trickery at play... it was an MCI
>calling card number that ended in a sequence which confused KC local routing

>for national domestic LD with international dialing, specifically, Columbia,

>South America country code. That was a weird day. As Nic Cage said in
Con
>Air while that brand new corvette was dangling at 400 feet like an empty

>cereal box off the back of that C-130, "On any other day, that would seem

>entirely unusual" but that whole weekend was just odd, including the drive

>through KS and CO the next day.
>
>Hey, Rod you weren't with SW the night the old 20-ton straight truck gel'd

>up diesel between LV and Reno, were you?
>
>Mark
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:449f696f$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Mark....remember when we accidently dialed Afganastan or somewhere

>> like
>> that when you were at my house? I think you were trying to show me some

>> trick
>> on the phone that had to do with counting a certain number of seconds

>> before
>> hitting the last number.
>> Rod
>>
>> P.S Just got back from vacation, and am leaving for Vegas in the morn
for
>> a corperate gig. Back Tues night. Man.....I had some withdrawls from this
>> place.
>> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>And how is 70 anymore? The last time I traversed the country on 70 was
>>
>>>1990...R-coast to L-coast, stayed at Rod's place for a day in KC. I don't
>>
>>>know if they've spent any money on 70 since then but I'd say it was THE
>>
>>>WORST interstate ending in Zero we had at that time and had been that
way
>>
>>>for 10 years.
>>>
>>>I'll add this positive aspect of Kansas; I enjoyed EVERY firework display
>> in
>>>the state Colorado on the evening of July 4, 1990 and I saw all of them
>>
>>>from, you guessed it, Kansas. Somewhere in that same trip, I was almost
>>
>>>sucked of the raod by a Tornado that wiped out a good bit of Limon area,
>> CO.
>>>
>>>Dubya out
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69722 is a reply to message #69682] Tue, 27 June 2006 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
Messages: 391
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:12:41 -0500, "Tony Benson"
<tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:

>Oh man, I hear ya about Vegas. It's forced perspective in reverse. They make
>everything so huge it looks closer together! Sure honey. Let's just walk
>over to the Hard Rock. It doesn't look that far. Ha! We almost died! "Drinks
>in the snack-a-teria, on me." ;>)
>
ROTFLMAO!!!

We had that EXACT same experience! Decided to walk to the Hofbrauhaus
and the Hard Rock from the Trop. Didn't look that far.

You're right. I'm sure what we walked ended up being 376 miles.

And then we walked back. Guess we worked off the food and the
Frappaccinos at Starbucks.....

pab
Re: Kansas [message #69750 is a reply to message #69722] Wed, 28 June 2006 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
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We whimped out and took a cab back. Same walk though, from the Tropicana to
the Hard Rock. I though we were going to have to stop and get a room for the
night. ;>)

Tony


"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:fu83a2t20q073c3g6orfm4at3c60amrbj7@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:12:41 -0500, "Tony Benson"
> <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>
>>Oh man, I hear ya about Vegas. It's forced perspective in reverse. They
>>make
>>everything so huge it looks closer together! Sure honey. Let's just walk
>>over to the Hard Rock. It doesn't look that far. Ha! We almost died!
>>"Drinks
>>in the snack-a-teria, on me." ;>)
>>
> ROTFLMAO!!!
>
> We had that EXACT same experience! Decided to walk to the Hofbrauhaus
> and the Hard Rock from the Trop. Didn't look that far.
>
> You're right. I'm sure what we walked ended up being 376 miles.
>
> And then we walked back. Guess we worked off the food and the
> Frappaccinos at Starbucks.....
>
> pab
Re: Kansas [message #69754 is a reply to message #69709] Wed, 28 June 2006 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dubya Mark Wilson is currently offline  Dubya Mark Wilson   UNITED STATES
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Senior Member
Yeah, and then there's gettin on the Jersey Turnpike with nothing but
diarhea and a small plastic container with a 3/4" opening.... don't think
about this too long... move along, there's nothing to see here, just move
along... nothing to see. Except maybe "variety to the terrain."

Dubya

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44a13d18@linux...
Yeah,

Pennsylvania was a pretty long stretch.........but at least there is some
variety to the terrain.
Re: Kansas [message #69757 is a reply to message #69700] Wed, 28 June 2006 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dubya Mark Wilson is currently offline  Dubya Mark Wilson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 108
Registered: May 2006
Senior Member
I remember 20 years or so ago driving through Iowa (where THE most prolific
signage pertains to the travel of deer) and noticing the backwards antlers
on ALL of the signs. Yep... major foul-up. The antlers ran from the middle
of their foreheads, backwards over their ears and then up. Hilarious. It
made national news a few days later.

W. Mark Wilson

"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:C0C63E6E.CCED%tony@standinghampton.com...
>I know what you meant Jamie. It's the same when people judge Iowa by the
> I-80 drive only. They think the whole state is just gently rolling corn
> and
> soybean fields. What a minute . . . It is! ;>) Naw, if you look hard
> enough
> we have some pretty stuff too.
>
> Tony
>
> On 6/26/06 10:36 PM, in article 44a0a66d@linux, "Jamie K"
> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Tony Benson wrote:
>>> I've driven thorough Western Nebraska many times when I was touring and
>>> it
>>> does have some interesting topology. I was just being facetious. It's an
>>> old
>>> joke with my family how boring that I-80 drive is as we've made the trip
>>> a
>>> hundred times.
>>>
>>> You sound a little like Alice Cooper in Wayne's World, explaining the
>>> history of Milwaukee!
>>
>> Heh. Yeah, if Alice grew up in Nebraska. Sorry I went all pedantic on ya
>> Tony.
>>
>> I've made the drive a zillion times, too. Did I mention the many clean
>> Nebraska rest stops, with maps, weather/road reports and abstract
>> sculpture displays. I, uh, oh, sorry. :^)
>>
>> I've also spent a fair amount of time going to and from to New Mexico,
>> Arizona, Southern California, Northern California, Oregon and
>> Washington. Lots of great country along the way. I really like the drive
>> through Deej's four corners area. And the vast stretches of I-80 through
>> Utah and Nevada. Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, great country. And of course,
>> Colorado.
>>
>> OK, now I'm itchin' for a road trip!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Nebraska, birthplace of Arbor Day . . ." I'm not worthy! ;>)
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>> news:44a03140$1@linux...
>>>> In Nebraska I-80 follows the Platte river valley, a long gentle descent
>>>> bringing Rocky Mountain runnoff to the Missouri river. The route is a
>>>> part
>>>> of the Oregon trail. It became a logical place to put a relatively
>>>> safe,
>>>> easy driving interstate. You could ALMOST drive it on auto-pilot but
>>>> there
>>>> are a few curves here and there. :^)
>>>>
>>>> Since many folks only experience Nebraska by driving through on I-80, a
>>>> common misconception is to equate Nebraska with that drive.
>>>>
>>>> Nebraska has other terrain. For example, there are vast sandhill areas
>>>> in
>>>> the west. In the North East you'll find hills left behind by glaciation
>>>> from the last ice age. The East has interesting river bluff country
>>>> along
>>>> the Missouri river and its tributaries. Nebraska, birthplace of Arbor
>>>> Day,
>>>> also has a large man-made national forest.
>>>>
>>>> I like the open spaces in the West. We have some incredible areas. With
>>>> our demanding, busy lives it's often hard not to just blaze through
>>>> them
>>>> with this or that destination in mind, but sometimes it's worth slowing
>>>> down and exploring along the way.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony Benson wrote:
>>>>> It sounds like Nebraska. On one trip to visit my uncle in Snowmass
>>>>> Village, CO, I left Iowa on I-80, got West of Omaha, set the cruise,
>>>>> and
>>>>> went to sleep. I woke up six hours later to the welcome to Colorado
>>>>> sign!
>>>>> Talk about a straight, flat road! ;>)
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:449f057c@linux...
>>>>>> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
>>>>>> nonstop
>>>>>> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> La
>>>>>> Junta Colorado.
>>>>>> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>>>>>> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time
>>>>>> warp
>>>>>> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> next
>>>>>> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>>>>>> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of
>>>>>> flat in
>>>>>> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> early
>>>>>> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> wierd
>>>>>> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
>>>>>> anti-abortion
>>>>>> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the
>>>>>> highway
>>>>>> sort
>>>>>> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
>>>>>> miles,
>>>>>> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
>>>>>> void,
>>>>>> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti
>>>>>> abortion
>>>>>> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
>>>>>> every
>>>>>> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> felt
>>>>>> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Toto
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: Kansas [message #69774 is a reply to message #69757] Thu, 29 June 2006 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
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Registered: June 2006
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That doesn't surprise me. Our DOT isn't what you'd call an organization of
geniuses. ;>)

Tony


"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
news:44a30e9b@linux...
>I remember 20 years or so ago driving through Iowa (where THE most prolific
>signage pertains to the travel of deer) and noticing the backwards antlers
>on ALL of the signs. Yep... major foul-up. The antlers ran from the
>middle of their foreheads, backwards over their ears and then up.
>Hilarious. It made national news a few days later.
>
> W. Mark Wilson
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> news:C0C63E6E.CCED%tony@standinghampton.com...
>>I know what you meant Jamie. It's the same when people judge Iowa by the
>> I-80 drive only. They think the whole state is just gently rolling corn
>> and
>> soybean fields. What a minute . . . It is! ;>) Naw, if you look hard
>> enough
>> we have some pretty stuff too.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On 6/26/06 10:36 PM, in article 44a0a66d@linux, "Jamie K"
>> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Tony Benson wrote:
>>>> I've driven thorough Western Nebraska many times when I was touring and
>>>> it
>>>> does have some interesting topology. I was just being facetious. It's
>>>> an old
>>>> joke with my family how boring that I-80 drive is as we've made the
>>>> trip a
>>>> hundred times.
>>>>
>>>> You sound a little like Alice Cooper in Wayne's World, explaining the
>>>> history of Milwaukee!
>>>
>>> Heh. Yeah, if Alice grew up in Nebraska. Sorry I went all pedantic on ya
>>> Tony.
>>>
>>> I've made the drive a zillion times, too. Did I mention the many clean
>>> Nebraska rest stops, with maps, weather/road reports and abstract
>>> sculpture displays. I, uh, oh, sorry. :^)
>>>
>>> I've also spent a fair amount of time going to and from to New Mexico,
>>> Arizona, Southern California, Northern California, Oregon and
>>> Washington. Lots of great country along the way. I really like the drive
>>> through Deej's four corners area. And the vast stretches of I-80 through
>>> Utah and Nevada. Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, great country. And of course,
>>> Colorado.
>>>
>>> OK, now I'm itchin' for a road trip!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Nebraska, birthplace of Arbor Day . . ." I'm not worthy! ;>)
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:44a03140$1@linux...
>>>>> In Nebraska I-80 follows the Platte river valley, a long gentle
>>>>> descent
>>>>> bringing Rocky Mountain runnoff to the Missouri river. The route is a
>>>>> part
>>>>> of the Oregon trail. It became a logical place to put a relatively
>>>>> safe,
>>>>> easy driving interstate. You could ALMOST drive it on auto-pilot but
>>>>> there
>>>>> are a few curves here and there. :^)
>>>>>
>>>>> Since many folks only experience Nebraska by driving through on I-80,
>>>>> a
>>>>> common misconception is to equate Nebraska with that drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nebraska has other terrain. For example, there are vast sandhill areas
>>>>> in
>>>>> the west. In the North East you'll find hills left behind by
>>>>> glaciation
>>>>> from the last ice age. The East has interesting river bluff country
>>>>> along
>>>>> the Missouri river and its tributaries. Nebraska, birthplace of Arbor
>>>>> Day,
>>>>> also has a large man-made national forest.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the open spaces in the West. We have some incredible areas.
>>>>> With
>>>>> our demanding, busy lives it's often hard not to just blaze through
>>>>> them
>>>>> with this or that destination in mind, but sometimes it's worth
>>>>> slowing
>>>>> down and exploring along the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony Benson wrote:
>>>>>> It sounds like Nebraska. On one trip to visit my uncle in Snowmass
>>>>>> Village, CO, I left Iowa on I-80, got West of Omaha, set the cruise,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> went to sleep. I woke up six hours later to the welcome to Colorado
>>>>>> sign!
>>>>>> Talk about a straight, flat road! ;>)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:449f057c@linux...
>>>>>>> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that
>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
>>>>>>> nonstop
>>>>>>> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus
>>>>>>> Ohio to
>>>>>>> La
>>>>>>> Junta Colorado.
>>>>>>> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and
>>>>>>> Missouri
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time
>>>>>>> warp
>>>>>>> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>>>>>>> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of
>>>>>>> flat in
>>>>>>> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> wierd
>>>>>>> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
>>>>>>> anti-abortion
>>>>>>> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the
>>>>>>> highway
>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
>>>>>>> miles,
>>>>>>> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> void,
>>>>>>> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti
>>>>>>> abortion
>>>>>>> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last
>>>>>>> night, I
>>>>>>> felt
>>>>>>> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Toto
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #70144 is a reply to message #69655] Sun, 09 July 2006 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   UNITED STATES
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Registered: July 2005
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I've written a few songs in this stretch. I get to Salinas and go south for
more
driving fun...


El Miguel (someday I'll sing one of them)



"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:449f057c@linux...
> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
the
> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
nonstop
> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
La
> Junta Colorado.
> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
didn't
> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
next
> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat
in
> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
early
> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
wierd
> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
anti-abortion
> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
sort
> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
miles,
> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
void,
> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on every
> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
felt
> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>
> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>
> Toto
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #70145 is a reply to message #69675] Sun, 09 July 2006 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   UNITED STATES
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Registered: July 2005
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> Kansas, now that sounds like fun. Or hey, Nevada, in a supercharged
> Challenger. Just like in the movie, except without the cops and the dying
> and the car exploding and stuff.


yeah, Vanishing Point...
That's what I'm talking about.

El Miguel *Kowowski* without the pills and that damn bulldozer thingy in the
road :)




"Sound Dog" <dogster@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:449ffb3f$1@linux...
> I've heard that OZ is actually worse. If you're talking about crossing
the
> middle of Australia that is. 52 degrees (don't know what that is in
> fahrenheit) and the occasional motel / petrol pump, and the likelhood of
a
> kangaroo jumping out in front of you and introducing your front suspension
> to your firewall.
>
> So I've heard anyway...
>
> Kansas, now that sounds like fun. Or hey, Nevada, in a supercharged
> Challenger. Just like in the movie, except without the cops and the dying
> and the car exploding and stuff.
>
> Stewart.
>
>
> Dedric Terry wrote in message ...
> >When I moved out here from Nashville, I drove a moving truck all the way.
> >Not so bad out of Tennessee and Missouri, but then we hit Kansas.
> >
> >Kansas is uphill all the way going west for anyone who's never driven
that
> >stretch of I-70. To get near the speed limit (okay 15mph shy at 50), I
had
> >to floor it and keep it there - it just poked along at 50, dead on, not a
> >wiggle, not a hint of 51 or 49. One stretch (between gas stops) was 4
> hours
> >of nothing changing inside the truck or out. I almost thought of putting
a
> >box on the accelerator and moving to the passenger seat to read a
> >book...just to be sure time hadn't stopped.
> >
> >"There's no place like home. There's no place like home." Really? Was
OZ
> >that bad?
> >
> >The Tinman
> >
> >On 6/25/06 3:50 PM, in article 449f057c@linux, "DJ"
> ><animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
> the
> >> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
> nonstop
> >> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio
to
> La
> >> Junta Colorado.
> >> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
> didn't
> >> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
> >> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
> >> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
> next
> >> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
> >> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of
flat
> in
> >> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
> early
> >> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
> wierd
> >> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
> anti-abortion
> >> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
> sort
> >> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
> miles,
> >> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
> void,
> >> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti
abortion
> >> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
> every
> >> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
> felt
> >> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
> >>
> >> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
> >>
> >> Toto
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
Re: Kansas [message #70248 is a reply to message #70144] Tue, 11 July 2006 23:22 Go to previous message
Dubya Mark Wilson is currently offline  Dubya Mark Wilson   UNITED STATES
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Registered: May 2006
Senior Member
Ahhh yes, the old Cimmeron Turnpike.

W.


"Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44b13ee4@linux...
> I've written a few songs in this stretch. I get to Salinas and go south
> for
> more
> driving fun...
>
>
> El Miguel (someday I'll sing one of them)
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:449f057c@linux...
>> I have made quite a few long drives in my life. I thought that probably
> the
>> most gruelling dirive I had ever made was back in 1972 when I drove
> nonstop
>> from Austin to Chetumal. Yesterday I drove nonstop from Columbus Ohio to
> La
>> Junta Colorado.
>> I was on I70 and crossing the remainder of Ohio, Indiana and Missouri
> didn't
>> really seem to take that long..........then I entered Kansas. I never
>> thought it would end.......almost like there was some sort of time warp
>> where I'd drive for 100 miles and the next road sign sould say that the
> next
>> stop was 200 miles further away than I thought it was.
>> Unbelieveable!!...........and flat.........I think the definition of flat
> in
>> Websters should have a picture of I70 crossing Kansas. I wonder if the
> early
>> pioneers who crossed Kansas in their covered wagons though that it was
> wierd
>> to see endless miles of prarie occasionally interwspersed with
> anti-abortion
>> signs which are strung out on incremental billboards along the highway
> sort
>> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next 50
> miles,
>> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of the
> void,
>> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti abortion
>> ads...........and I wonder if they got sick of hearing 70's music on
>> every
>> radio station. By the time I got out of Kansas about 9:00 last night, I
> felt
>> like I had driven 20 years backward in time.
>>
>> Absolutely surreal, twilight zone kinda' day.
>>
>> Toto
>>
>>
>
>
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