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I'm gonna have to start listening to Thad Brown more often [message #69424] Sat, 17 June 2006 09:53 Go to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
Senior Member
A while back, when I was in the throes of configiring my native DAW, I
decided to stick wityh Matrox and replace my dual (AGP and PCI) Matrox
G450's with a Matrox P750. Thad (somewhat vociferously/emphatically)
responded that I should abandon Matrox entirely and go with a GE-Force
graphics card. I was reluctant because I wanted 3 monitors. Well, I've
jumped through quite a few hoops to use the P750 and I really don't like
it's method of allowing the use of 3 x monitors. It's much better
implemented when using two G450's than it is with the P750, IMO. Still I was
getting some wierdness when I had my LAN controller enabled and sometimes
even when I didn't. Cutting back the number of monitors I had enabled to two
helped this some, but I still had to have my LAN controller disabled in the
BIOS..........and still, there would be an occasional screen freeze if I
walked away from the computer for around 10 minutes. It wasn't a problem as
long as I was continuously using the machine, but letting it sit idle fro a
while would result in my returning to the project only to find my mouse
frozen and requiring a hard reboot.

I just installed a GEForce 5500 dual head. There is a big difference in the
way the system is running. It's one of those things that you dont really
notice until you install a piece of hardware that works better than another
piece of hardware that you really didn't think was behaving badly.

So far, so good. The system is operating very smoothly with the LAN
controller enabled and since I was only using 2 monitors on my native system
most of the time, I'm not really missing the 3rd video head. I may try
adding as GEForce 5500 PCI card. I'm pretty impressed by this hardware.

I also just upgraded my AMD 64 dual core 4200 CPU to a 4400. It's making a
bit of difference in my higher track count projects. Sort of like providing
that little more *oomph* to the system. Now I'm probably going to have to
reauthoraze a bunch of NI VSTi's............oh well.........

;o)
Re: I'm gonna have to start listening to Thad Brown more often [message #69426 is a reply to message #69424] Sat, 17 June 2006 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Good luck with the NI reauthorization stuff, Deej, it's a hassle. I ran
into it when changing a hard drive. They should never key their system
ID on something as likely to be changed out as a HD, IMO.

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com


DJ wrote:
> A while back, when I was in the throes of configiring my native DAW, I
> decided to stick wityh Matrox and replace my dual (AGP and PCI) Matrox
> G450's with a Matrox P750. Thad (somewhat vociferously/emphatically)
> responded that I should abandon Matrox entirely and go with a GE-Force
> graphics card. I was reluctant because I wanted 3 monitors. Well, I've
> jumped through quite a few hoops to use the P750 and I really don't like
> it's method of allowing the use of 3 x monitors. It's much better
> implemented when using two G450's than it is with the P750, IMO. Still I was
> getting some wierdness when I had my LAN controller enabled and sometimes
> even when I didn't. Cutting back the number of monitors I had enabled to two
> helped this some, but I still had to have my LAN controller disabled in the
> BIOS..........and still, there would be an occasional screen freeze if I
> walked away from the computer for around 10 minutes. It wasn't a problem as
> long as I was continuously using the machine, but letting it sit idle fro a
> while would result in my returning to the project only to find my mouse
> frozen and requiring a hard reboot.
>
> I just installed a GEForce 5500 dual head. There is a big difference in the
> way the system is running. It's one of those things that you dont really
> notice until you install a piece of hardware that works better than another
> piece of hardware that you really didn't think was behaving badly.
>
> So far, so good. The system is operating very smoothly with the LAN
> controller enabled and since I was only using 2 monitors on my native system
> most of the time, I'm not really missing the 3rd video head. I may try
> adding as GEForce 5500 PCI card. I'm pretty impressed by this hardware.
>
> I also just upgraded my AMD 64 dual core 4200 CPU to a 4400. It's making a
> bit of difference in my higher track count projects. Sort of like providing
> that little more *oomph* to the system. Now I'm probably going to have to
> reauthoraze a bunch of NI VSTi's............oh well.........
>
> ;o)
>
>
Re: I'm gonna have to start listening to Thad Brown more often [message #69428 is a reply to message #69426] Sat, 17 June 2006 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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I thought it was keyed to the CPU, but apparently it's not. I just opened up
Bandstand and B4II and they both played from my controller.

TG for small favors

;o)



"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:449443ad$1@linux...
>
> Good luck with the NI reauthorization stuff, Deej, it's a hassle. I ran
> into it when changing a hard drive. They should never key their system
> ID on something as likely to be changed out as a HD, IMO.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
> > A while back, when I was in the throes of configiring my native DAW, I
> > decided to stick wityh Matrox and replace my dual (AGP and PCI) Matrox
> > G450's with a Matrox P750. Thad (somewhat vociferously/emphatically)
> > responded that I should abandon Matrox entirely and go with a GE-Force
> > graphics card. I was reluctant because I wanted 3 monitors. Well, I've
> > jumped through quite a few hoops to use the P750 and I really don't like
> > it's method of allowing the use of 3 x monitors. It's much better
> > implemented when using two G450's than it is with the P750, IMO. Still I
was
> > getting some wierdness when I had my LAN controller enabled and
sometimes
> > even when I didn't. Cutting back the number of monitors I had enabled to
two
> > helped this some, but I still had to have my LAN controller disabled in
the
> > BIOS..........and still, there would be an occasional screen freeze if I
> > walked away from the computer for around 10 minutes. It wasn't a problem
as
> > long as I was continuously using the machine, but letting it sit idle
fro a
> > while would result in my returning to the project only to find my mouse
> > frozen and requiring a hard reboot.
> >
> > I just installed a GEForce 5500 dual head. There is a big difference in
the
> > way the system is running. It's one of those things that you dont really
> > notice until you install a piece of hardware that works better than
another
> > piece of hardware that you really didn't think was behaving badly.
> >
> > So far, so good. The system is operating very smoothly with the LAN
> > controller enabled and since I was only using 2 monitors on my native
system
> > most of the time, I'm not really missing the 3rd video head. I may try
> > adding as GEForce 5500 PCI card. I'm pretty impressed by this hardware.
> >
> > I also just upgraded my AMD 64 dual core 4200 CPU to a 4400. It's making
a
> > bit of difference in my higher track count projects. Sort of like
providing
> > that little more *oomph* to the system. Now I'm probably going to have
to
> > reauthoraze a bunch of NI VSTi's............oh well.........
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> >
Re: I'm gonna have to start listening to Thad Brown more often [message #69433 is a reply to message #69424] Sat, 17 June 2006 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
Senior Member
Well.........I'm convinced now. The GEForce video card has made the big
difference. I have let my computer sit with a Cubase SX project open for the
last hour and a half anbd I just went over to it and hit "play" on the
Houston controller. No screen freeze at all. Everything is working as I had
hoped. Very good news. I think that P750 is going to be up on EBay PDQ.

;o)



"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44943583@linux...
> A while back, when I was in the throes of configiring my native DAW, I
> decided to stick wityh Matrox and replace my dual (AGP and PCI) Matrox
> G450's with a Matrox P750. Thad (somewhat vociferously/emphatically)
> responded that I should abandon Matrox entirely and go with a GE-Force
> graphics card. I was reluctant because I wanted 3 monitors. Well, I've
> jumped through quite a few hoops to use the P750 and I really don't like
> it's method of allowing the use of 3 x monitors. It's much better
> implemented when using two G450's than it is with the P750, IMO. Still I
was
> getting some wierdness when I had my LAN controller enabled and sometimes
> even when I didn't. Cutting back the number of monitors I had enabled to
two
> helped this some, but I still had to have my LAN controller disabled in
the
> BIOS..........and still, there would be an occasional screen freeze if I
> walked away from the computer for around 10 minutes. It wasn't a problem
as
> long as I was continuously using the machine, but letting it sit idle fro
a
> while would result in my returning to the project only to find my mouse
> frozen and requiring a hard reboot.
>
> I just installed a GEForce 5500 dual head. There is a big difference in
the
> way the system is running. It's one of those things that you dont really
> notice until you install a piece of hardware that works better than
another
> piece of hardware that you really didn't think was behaving badly.
>
> So far, so good. The system is operating very smoothly with the LAN
> controller enabled and since I was only using 2 monitors on my native
system
> most of the time, I'm not really missing the 3rd video head. I may try
> adding as GEForce 5500 PCI card. I'm pretty impressed by this hardware.
>
> I also just upgraded my AMD 64 dual core 4200 CPU to a 4400. It's making a
> bit of difference in my higher track count projects. Sort of like
providing
> that little more *oomph* to the system. Now I'm probably going to have to
> reauthoraze a bunch of NI VSTi's............oh well.........
>
> ;o)
>
>
Re: I'm gonna have to start listening to Thad Brown more often [message #69446 is a reply to message #69433] Sat, 17 June 2006 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
Senior Member
Hey I've been telling you that forever toooo!!!
:)





DJ wrote:
> Well.........I'm convinced now. The GEForce video card has made the big
> difference. I have let my computer sit with a Cubase SX project open for the
> last hour and a half anbd I just went over to it and hit "play" on the
> Houston controller. No screen freeze at all. Everything is working as I had
> hoped. Very good news. I think that P750 is going to be up on EBay PDQ.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44943583@linux...
>
>>A while back, when I was in the throes of configiring my native DAW, I
>>decided to stick wityh Matrox and replace my dual (AGP and PCI) Matrox
>>G450's with a Matrox P750. Thad (somewhat vociferously/emphatically)
>>responded that I should abandon Matrox entirely and go with a GE-Force
>>graphics card. I was reluctant because I wanted 3 monitors. Well, I've
>>jumped through quite a few hoops to use the P750 and I really don't like
>>it's method of allowing the use of 3 x monitors. It's much better
>>implemented when using two G450's than it is with the P750, IMO. Still I
>
> was
>
>>getting some wierdness when I had my LAN controller enabled and sometimes
>>even when I didn't. Cutting back the number of monitors I had enabled to
>
> two
>
>>helped this some, but I still had to have my LAN controller disabled in
>
> the
>
>>BIOS..........and still, there would be an occasional screen freeze if I
>>walked away from the computer for around 10 minutes. It wasn't a problem
>
> as
>
>>long as I was continuously using the machine, but letting it sit idle fro
>
> a
>
>>while would result in my returning to the project only to find my mouse
>>frozen and requiring a hard reboot.
>>
>>I just installed a GEForce 5500 dual head. There is a big difference in
>
> the
>
>>way the system is running. It's one of those things that you dont really
>>notice until you install a piece of hardware that works better than
>
> another
>
>>piece of hardware that you really didn't think was behaving badly.
>>
>>So far, so good. The system is operating very smoothly with the LAN
>>controller enabled and since I was only using 2 monitors on my native
>
> system
>
>>most of the time, I'm not really missing the 3rd video head. I may try
>>adding as GEForce 5500 PCI card. I'm pretty impressed by this hardware.
>>
>>I also just upgraded my AMD 64 dual core 4200 CPU to a 4400. It's making a
>>bit of difference in my higher track count projects. Sort of like
>
> providing
>
>>that little more *oomph* to the system. Now I'm probably going to have to
>>reauthoraze a bunch of NI VSTi's............oh well.........
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
Re: I'm gonna have to start listening to Thad Brown more often [message #69447 is a reply to message #69446] Sat, 17 June 2006 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
Senior Member
oooops!!!...........yeah, that's true. You have. Actually I bought the
GEForce 5500 not too long after we discusseed this. Credit where credit is
due.

;o)

"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:44946f55$1@linux...
> Hey I've been telling you that forever toooo!!!
> :)
>
>
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
> > Well.........I'm convinced now. The GEForce video card has made the big
> > difference. I have let my computer sit with a Cubase SX project open for
the
> > last hour and a half anbd I just went over to it and hit "play" on the
> > Houston controller. No screen freeze at all. Everything is working as I
had
> > hoped. Very good news. I think that P750 is going to be up on EBay PDQ.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:44943583@linux...
> >
> >>A while back, when I was in the throes of configiring my native DAW, I
> >>decided to stick wityh Matrox and replace my dual (AGP and PCI) Matrox
> >>G450's with a Matrox P750. Thad (somewhat vociferously/emphatically)
> >>responded that I should abandon Matrox entirely and go with a GE-Force
> >>graphics card. I was reluctant because I wanted 3 monitors. Well, I've
> >>jumped through quite a few hoops to use the P750 and I really don't like
> >>it's method of allowing the use of 3 x monitors. It's much better
> >>implemented when using two G450's than it is with the P750, IMO. Still I
> >
> > was
> >
> >>getting some wierdness when I had my LAN controller enabled and
sometimes
> >>even when I didn't. Cutting back the number of monitors I had enabled to
> >
> > two
> >
> >>helped this some, but I still had to have my LAN controller disabled in
> >
> > the
> >
> >>BIOS..........and still, there would be an occasional screen freeze if I
> >>walked away from the computer for around 10 minutes. It wasn't a problem
> >
> > as
> >
> >>long as I was continuously using the machine, but letting it sit idle
fro
> >
> > a
> >
> >>while would result in my returning to the project only to find my mouse
> >>frozen and requiring a hard reboot.
> >>
> >>I just installed a GEForce 5500 dual head. There is a big difference in
> >
> > the
> >
> >>way the system is running. It's one of those things that you dont really
> >>notice until you install a piece of hardware that works better than
> >
> > another
> >
> >>piece of hardware that you really didn't think was behaving badly.
> >>
> >>So far, so good. The system is operating very smoothly with the LAN
> >>controller enabled and since I was only using 2 monitors on my native
> >
> > system
> >
> >>most of the time, I'm not really missing the 3rd video head. I may try
> >>adding as GEForce 5500 PCI card. I'm pretty impressed by this hardware.
> >>
> >>I also just upgraded my AMD 64 dual core 4200 CPU to a 4400. It's making
a
> >>bit of difference in my higher track count projects. Sort of like
> >
> > providing
> >
> >>that little more *oomph* to the system. Now I'm probably going to have
to
> >>reauthoraze a bunch of NI VSTi's............oh well.........
> >>
> >>;o)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
Re: I'm gonna have to start listening to Thad Brown more often [message #69449 is a reply to message #69426] Sat, 17 June 2006 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
As you have already paid for the NI stuff, why not get a crack of it and
avoid all the hassle?
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:449443ad$1@linux...
>
> Good luck with the NI reauthorization stuff, Deej, it's a hassle. I ran
> into it when changing a hard drive. They should never key their system ID
> on something as likely to be changed out as a HD, IMO.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> A while back, when I was in the throes of configiring my native DAW, I
>> decided to stick wityh Matrox and replace my dual (AGP and PCI) Matrox
>> G450's with a Matrox P750. Thad (somewhat vociferously/emphatically)
>> responded that I should abandon Matrox entirely and go with a GE-Force
>> graphics card. I was reluctant because I wanted 3 monitors. Well, I've
>> jumped through quite a few hoops to use the P750 and I really don't like
>> it's method of allowing the use of 3 x monitors. It's much better
>> implemented when using two G450's than it is with the P750, IMO. Still I
>> was
>> getting some wierdness when I had my LAN controller enabled and sometimes
>> even when I didn't. Cutting back the number of monitors I had enabled to
>> two
>> helped this some, but I still had to have my LAN controller disabled in
>> the
>> BIOS..........and still, there would be an occasional screen freeze if I
>> walked away from the computer for around 10 minutes. It wasn't a problem
>> as
>> long as I was continuously using the machine, but letting it sit idle fro
>> a
>> while would result in my returning to the project only to find my mouse
>> frozen and requiring a hard reboot.
>>
>> I just installed a GEForce 5500 dual head. There is a big difference in
>> the
>> way the system is running. It's one of those things that you dont really
>> notice until you install a piece of hardware that works better than
>> another
>> piece of hardware that you really didn't think was behaving badly.
>>
>> So far, so good. The system is operating very smoothly with the LAN
>> controller enabled and since I was only using 2 monitors on my native
>> system
>> most of the time, I'm not really missing the 3rd video head. I may try
>> adding as GEForce 5500 PCI card. I'm pretty impressed by this hardware.
>>
>> I also just upgraded my AMD 64 dual core 4200 CPU to a 4400. It's making
>> a
>> bit of difference in my higher track count projects. Sort of like
>> providing
>> that little more *oomph* to the system. Now I'm probably going to have to
>> reauthoraze a bunch of NI VSTi's............oh well.........
>>
>> ;o)
>>
Re: I'm gonna have to start listening to Thad Brown more often [message #69535 is a reply to message #69424] Mon, 19 June 2006 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
Senior Member
This thing is so friggin' stable now that I can't even get it to
crash.........and believe me, if anyone here can crash a computer........
I'm jinking it around brutally, loading and unloading plugins, starting
/stopping, moving tracks around, dragging stuff from screen to screen. You
name it. Native DAWs shouldn't be this stable. Maybe I'll try to load up
Ivory VSTi while I'm playing back a 40 track project. That oughta' kill it
for sure.
;oP

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44943583@linux...
> A while back, when I was in the throes of configiring my native DAW, I
> decided to stick wityh Matrox and replace my dual (AGP and PCI) Matrox
> G450's with a Matrox P750. Thad (somewhat vociferously/emphatically)
> responded that I should abandon Matrox entirely and go with a GE-Force
> graphics card. I was reluctant because I wanted 3 monitors. Well, I've
> jumped through quite a few hoops to use the P750 and I really don't like
> it's method of allowing the use of 3 x monitors. It's much better
> implemented when using two G450's than it is with the P750, IMO. Still I
was
> getting some wierdness when I had my LAN controller enabled and sometimes
> even when I didn't. Cutting back the number of monitors I had enabled to
two
> helped this some, but I still had to have my LAN controller disabled in
the
> BIOS..........and still, there would be an occasional screen freeze if I
> walked away from the computer for around 10 minutes. It wasn't a problem
as
> long as I was continuously using the machine, but letting it sit idle fro
a
> while would result in my returning to the project only to find my mouse
> frozen and requiring a hard reboot.
>
> I just installed a GEForce 5500 dual head. There is a big difference in
the
> way the system is running. It's one of those things that you dont really
> notice until you install a piece of hardware that works better than
another
> piece of hardware that you really didn't think was behaving badly.
>
> So far, so good. The system is operating very smoothly with the LAN
> controller enabled and since I was only using 2 monitors on my native
system
> most of the time, I'm not really missing the 3rd video head. I may try
> adding as GEForce 5500 PCI card. I'm pretty impressed by this hardware.
>
> I also just upgraded my AMD 64 dual core 4200 CPU to a 4400. It's making a
> bit of difference in my higher track count projects. Sort of like
providing
> that little more *oomph* to the system. Now I'm probably going to have to
> reauthoraze a bunch of NI VSTi's............oh well.........
>
> ;o)
>
>
Re: I'm gonna have to start listening to Thad Brown more often [message #69536 is a reply to message #69535] Mon, 19 June 2006 22:07 Go to previous message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
Send it here for a week, I'll send it home feet first :)
AA


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44978011@linux...
> This thing is so friggin' stable now that I can't even get it to
> crash.........and believe me, if anyone here can crash a computer........
> I'm jinking it around brutally, loading and unloading plugins, starting
> /stopping, moving tracks around, dragging stuff from screen to screen. You
> name it. Native DAWs shouldn't be this stable. Maybe I'll try to load up
> Ivory VSTi while I'm playing back a 40 track project. That oughta' kill it
> for sure.
> ;oP
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44943583@linux...
>> A while back, when I was in the throes of configiring my native DAW, I
>> decided to stick wityh Matrox and replace my dual (AGP and PCI) Matrox
>> G450's with a Matrox P750. Thad (somewhat vociferously/emphatically)
>> responded that I should abandon Matrox entirely and go with a GE-Force
>> graphics card. I was reluctant because I wanted 3 monitors. Well, I've
>> jumped through quite a few hoops to use the P750 and I really don't like
>> it's method of allowing the use of 3 x monitors. It's much better
>> implemented when using two G450's than it is with the P750, IMO. Still I
> was
>> getting some wierdness when I had my LAN controller enabled and sometimes
>> even when I didn't. Cutting back the number of monitors I had enabled to
> two
>> helped this some, but I still had to have my LAN controller disabled in
> the
>> BIOS..........and still, there would be an occasional screen freeze if I
>> walked away from the computer for around 10 minutes. It wasn't a problem
> as
>> long as I was continuously using the machine, but letting it sit idle fro
> a
>> while would result in my returning to the project only to find my mouse
>> frozen and requiring a hard reboot.
>>
>> I just installed a GEForce 5500 dual head. There is a big difference in
> the
>> way the system is running. It's one of those things that you dont really
>> notice until you install a piece of hardware that works better than
> another
>> piece of hardware that you really didn't think was behaving badly.
>>
>> So far, so good. The system is operating very smoothly with the LAN
>> controller enabled and since I was only using 2 monitors on my native
> system
>> most of the time, I'm not really missing the 3rd video head. I may try
>> adding as GEForce 5500 PCI card. I'm pretty impressed by this hardware.
>>
>> I also just upgraded my AMD 64 dual core 4200 CPU to a 4400. It's making
>> a
>> bit of difference in my higher track count projects. Sort of like
> providing
>> that little more *oomph* to the system. Now I'm probably going to have to
>> reauthoraze a bunch of NI VSTi's............oh well.........
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>
>


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