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OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75336] Fri, 03 November 2006 17:57 Go to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
not in my lifetime.

Love,

Sarah
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Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75337 is a reply to message #75336] Fri, 03 November 2006 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least

>not in my lifetime.

But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
be important?

Neil
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75338 is a reply to message #75337] Fri, 03 November 2006 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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Vote for what? They're all idiots with no plan. Show me a candidate
with a written plan that shows clearly what he/she stands for, what
immediate goals they have with a roadmap, what budget they propose to do
it with and what timeframe they have. Oh and the milestones to indicate
their progress along the way.

Hmm..........NONE of them.........surprise surprise

Neil wrote:
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
>
>> not in my lifetime.
>
> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
> be important?
>
> Neil
Re: Vote . . . Please! [message #75339 is a reply to message #75336] Fri, 03 November 2006 18:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
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Anyone catch "Hacking Democracy" on hbo last night? It's a bit un-nerving,
but worth watching.

-Carl


"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:454bf150@linux...
> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
> not in my lifetime.
>
> Love,
>
> Sarah
> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75342 is a reply to message #75338] Fri, 03 November 2006 18:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AlexPlasko is currently offline  AlexPlasko   UNITED STATES
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john you said it brother!Its too bad there isnt a* none of the above*
vote.they are ALL corrupt idiots.I have a feeling this will be a
longgggggggggggggg ass thread.

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454bf73d@linux...
> Vote for what? They're all idiots with no plan. Show me a candidate with
> a written plan that shows clearly what he/she stands for, what immediate
> goals they have with a roadmap, what budget they propose to do it with and
> what timeframe they have. Oh and the milestones to indicate their
> progress along the way.
>
> Hmm..........NONE of them.........surprise surprise
>
> Neil wrote:
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>> least
>>
>>> not in my lifetime.
>>
>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>> be important?
>>
>> Neil
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75343 is a reply to message #75342] Fri, 03 November 2006 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>john you said it brother!Its too bad there isnt a* none of the above*
>vote.they are ALL corrupt idiots.I have a feeling this will be a
>longgggggggggggggg ass thread.

DAMN! I hope not. It's getting soooooo old, and it really doesn't belong
here. Better on the General NG.

James

>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454bf73d@linux...
>> Vote for what? They're all idiots with no plan. Show me a candidate
with
>> a written plan that shows clearly what he/she stands for, what immediate

>> goals they have with a roadmap, what budget they propose to do it with
and
>> what timeframe they have. Oh and the milestones to indicate their
>> progress along the way.
>>
>> Hmm..........NONE of them.........surprise surprise
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at

>>>> least
>>>
>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>>
>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>> be important?
>>>
>>> Neil
>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75347 is a reply to message #75338] Fri, 03 November 2006 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If you
don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454bf73d@linux...
> Vote for what? They're all idiots with no plan. Show me a candidate with
> a written plan that shows clearly what he/she stands for, what immediate
> goals they have with a roadmap, what budget they propose to do it with and
> what timeframe they have. Oh and the milestones to indicate their
> progress along the way.
>
> Hmm..........NONE of them.........surprise surprise
>
> Neil wrote:
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>> least
>>
>>> not in my lifetime.
>>
>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>> be important?
>>
>> Neil
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75349 is a reply to message #75347] Fri, 03 November 2006 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
you
>don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!

Yes you do... you can complain that everyone sucked so bad that
not a single one of 'em deserved your vote in the first
place... which is about the point that I'm getting to.

Neil
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75352 is a reply to message #75349] Fri, 03 November 2006 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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I wrote in Al Gore for county surveyor todaay.


"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454c12f6$1@linux...
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
> you
> >don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>
> Yes you do... you can complain that everyone sucked so bad that
> not a single one of 'em deserved your vote in the first
> place... which is about the point that I'm getting to.
>
> Neil
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75354 is a reply to message #75337] Fri, 03 November 2006 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)


S.


"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
>
>>not in my lifetime.
>
> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
> be important?
>
> Neil
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75357 is a reply to message #75342] Sat, 04 November 2006 03:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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And to me I don't care if they are of any party. I just want specifics.
Anything else is just rhetoric. Then I see the news saying Barack
Obama is the new great thing. So I watch him on Larry King and he's
just talking broad brush strokes pie in the sky. Sorry Barack, but if
you can't lay it out in detail I'm not interested. Oh, and I reserve
the right to QUESTION your detail and ask for more substantiation of
your proposal as if you had one.

John
Elect me, I'm for puppies


alex plasko wrote:
> john you said it brother!Its too bad there isnt a* none of the above*
> vote.they are ALL corrupt idiots.I have a feeling this will be a
> longgggggggggggggg ass thread.
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454bf73d@linux...
>> Vote for what? They're all idiots with no plan. Show me a candidate with
>> a written plan that shows clearly what he/she stands for, what immediate
>> goals they have with a roadmap, what budget they propose to do it with and
>> what timeframe they have. Oh and the milestones to indicate their
>> progress along the way.
>>
>> Hmm..........NONE of them.........surprise surprise
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least
>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>> be important?
>>>
>>> Neil
>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75358 is a reply to message #75347] Sat, 04 November 2006 03:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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bullshit

Martin Harrington wrote:
> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If you
> don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75359 is a reply to message #75347] Sat, 04 November 2006 03:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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compulsory? what do they do if you dont' vote?

Martin Harrington wrote:
> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If you
> don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75360 is a reply to message #75354] Sat, 04 November 2006 03:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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not important. just picking from different groups of crooks

Sarah wrote:
> Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
>
>
> S.
>
>
> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
>>> not in my lifetime.
>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>> be important?
>>
>> Neil
>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75362 is a reply to message #75352] Sat, 04 November 2006 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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O.K. that was freakin funny
:0)
Rod
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>I wrote in Al Gore for county surveyor todaay.
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454c12f6$1@linux...
>>
>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> >Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
>> you
>> >don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>>
>> Yes you do... you can complain that everyone sucked so bad that
>> not a single one of 'em deserved your vote in the first
>> place... which is about the point that I'm getting to.
>>
>> Neil
>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75364 is a reply to message #75357] Sat, 04 November 2006 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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John <no@no.com> wrote:

>Elect me, I'm for puppies

FINALLY! Someone who's not anti-puppy! You've got my vote.

:)
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75371 is a reply to message #75362] Sat, 04 November 2006 11:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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Well heck, Dick Cheney's brother is a surveyor in these parts and I figured
if he got elected he would give no bid contracts to Halliburton to suck
prarie dogs out of their burrows and send them to fight in Iraq since they
are probably smarter than the soldiers over there.



"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:454c9d5e$1@linux...
>
> O.K. that was freakin funny
> :0)
> Rod
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
> >I wrote in Al Gore for county surveyor todaay.
> >
> >
> >"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454c12f6$1@linux...
> >>
> >> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >> >Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say
is..If
> >> you
> >> >don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
> >>
> >> Yes you do... you can complain that everyone sucked so bad that
> >> not a single one of 'em deserved your vote in the first
> >> place... which is about the point that I'm getting to.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >
> >
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75387 is a reply to message #75358] Sat, 04 November 2006 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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Hmm, a very intelligent reply.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7b12$1@linux...
> bullshit
>
> Martin Harrington wrote:
>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75388 is a reply to message #75359] Sat, 04 November 2006 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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A fine.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7bc0$1@linux...
> compulsory? what do they do if you dont' vote?
>
> Martin Harrington wrote:
>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75390 is a reply to message #75360] Sat, 04 November 2006 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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OK, I really didn't think this would turn into a discussion, so I
apologize for that. But I just wanted to say one thing before I drop this.

It's absurd to say "they're all . . . " anything. Whenever I hear huge
generalities about any group of people, I figure I'm listening to someone
who simply doesn't want to really look a little deeper. There are honest,
ethical people in government, and if they're outnumbered it's precisely
because as fat, comfy Americans we have been apathetic and cynical long
enough to let the crooks and liars take over.

And even if it was true that they're ALL bad, which it isn't, I would
still be saying, "Please vote," because sometimes choosing between the
lesser of two evils is a life or death decision.

Sarah


"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7be4$1@linux...
> not important. just picking from different groups of crooks
>
> Sarah wrote:
>> Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
>>
>>
>> S.
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least
>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>> be important?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75392 is a reply to message #75390] Sat, 04 November 2006 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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They all suck. NONE of them have any plans! I have better plans for building
a dog house than this bunch of idiots have? Which genius have I overlooked
?

Actually, I was going to build a dog house today and I did a complete plan
and did a cost list before I bought the materials and the house I was building
was going to be $200 so I bought one for $169 that suits me ok. So here
I am costing things out before I execute them. What a concept !!

John

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
> OK, I really didn't think this would turn into a discussion, so I
>apologize for that. But I just wanted to say one thing before I drop this.
>
> It's absurd to say "they're all . . . " anything. Whenever I hear huge

>generalities about any group of people, I figure I'm listening to someone

>who simply doesn't want to really look a little deeper. There are honest,

>ethical people in government, and if they're outnumbered it's precisely

>because as fat, comfy Americans we have been apathetic and cynical long

>enough to let the crooks and liars take over.
>
> And even if it was true that they're ALL bad, which it isn't, I would

>still be saying, "Please vote," because sometimes choosing between the
>lesser of two evils is a life or death decision.
>
>Sarah
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7be4$1@linux...
>> not important. just picking from different groups of crooks
>>
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at

>>>>> least
>>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>>> be important?
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75393 is a reply to message #75387] Sat, 04 November 2006 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Would like more words to help get the point across? For me one was plenty.

John

"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Hmm, a very intelligent reply.
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7b12$1@linux...
>> bullshit
>>
>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If

>>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75394 is a reply to message #75388] Sat, 04 November 2006 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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How stupid. So voting is like getting a rebate for something you don't want
to buy.


"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>A fine.
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7bc0$1@linux...
>> compulsory? what do they do if you dont' vote?
>>
>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If

>>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75397 is a reply to message #75392] Sat, 04 November 2006 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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Why don't you submit yourself for public office, John.
You might even be able to change the world, but wait, you could never get
Paris working properly, so maybe that's not such a great idea either.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454d3225$1@linux...
>
>
> They all suck. NONE of them have any plans! I have better plans for
> building
> a dog house than this bunch of idiots have? Which genius have I
> overlooked
> ?
>
> Actually, I was going to build a dog house today and I did a complete plan
> and did a cost list before I bought the materials and the house I was
> building
> was going to be $200 so I bought one for $169 that suits me ok. So here
> I am costing things out before I execute them. What a concept !!
>
> John
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>> OK, I really didn't think this would turn into a discussion, so I
>>apologize for that. But I just wanted to say one thing before I drop this.
>>
>> It's absurd to say "they're all . . . " anything. Whenever I hear
>> huge
>
>>generalities about any group of people, I figure I'm listening to someone
>
>>who simply doesn't want to really look a little deeper. There are honest,
>
>>ethical people in government, and if they're outnumbered it's precisely
>
>>because as fat, comfy Americans we have been apathetic and cynical long
>
>>enough to let the crooks and liars take over.
>>
>> And even if it was true that they're ALL bad, which it isn't, I would
>
>>still be saying, "Please vote," because sometimes choosing between the
>>lesser of two evils is a life or death decision.
>>
>>Sarah
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7be4$1@linux...
>>> not important. just picking from different groups of crooks
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> S.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>>>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>
>>>>>> least
>>>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>>>> be important?
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75398 is a reply to message #75397] Sat, 04 November 2006 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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Yeah, I'm an idiot.

Martin Harrington wrote:
> Why don't you submit yourself for public office, John.
> You might even be able to change the world, but wait, you could never get
> Paris working properly, so maybe that's not such a great idea either.
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75405 is a reply to message #75388] Sat, 04 November 2006 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DC is currently offline  DC
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And a pint of American beer...

heh heh


"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>A fine.
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7bc0$1@linux...
>> compulsory? what do they do if you dont' vote?
>>
>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If

>>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75408 is a reply to message #75398] Sun, 05 November 2006 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   NORWAY
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You're not an idiot John,
but.......................................arghhhh!!!!! Never mind;-)
I mean it's a good idea to vote, trying to change America a bit for the
worlds sake. We can all be small wheels helping the bigger ones to go around
and make a better world for us all, whereever we're living in our great,
little world of today. Especially when we have got the choice to vote, where
so many good people around the world have fighted for up against the years.
We have all heard the words "Human Rights" up against the years, but how
many of us are doing something with it? Sarah is one of them trying to do
something, where some other better wish to build or buy a doghouse for their
own world;-)

erlilo

"John" <no@no.com> skrev i melding news:454d45c4@linux...
> Yeah, I'm an idiot.
>
> Martin Harrington wrote:
>> Why don't you submit yourself for public office, John.
>> You might even be able to change the world, but wait, you could never get
>> Paris working properly, so maybe that's not such a great idea either.
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75414 is a reply to message #75405] Sun, 05 November 2006 03:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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Anything but that...except some of course...
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"DC" <dc@spammersinsydney.org> wrote in message news:454d8a6b$1@linux...
>
> And a pint of American beer...
>
> heh heh
>
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>A fine.
>>--
>>Martin Harrington
>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7bc0$1@linux...
>>> compulsory? what do they do if you dont' vote?
>>>
>>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
>
>>>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>>
>>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75425 is a reply to message #75336] Sun, 05 November 2006 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Sarah wrote:
> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
> not in my lifetime.
>
> Love,
>
> Sarah
> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75426 is a reply to message #75425] Sun, 05 November 2006 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
games where the only winning strategy is not to play.

I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm


hehe,
John

Jamie K wrote:
>
> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Sarah wrote:
>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>> least not in my lifetime.
>>
>> Love,
>>
>> Sarah
>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75430 is a reply to message #75426] Sun, 05 November 2006 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's

>like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>
>I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>
>
>hehe,
>John
>

That’s fine. In the last few national elections many people with progressive
ideas stayed home because they felt they had no good options. As a result,
we have handed the country to people that “I” think are crooks, incompetent
and worse. I can only hope that this time the other side stays home by the
millions. To all my conservative Paris friends: Please pass on this election,
and the next. There are no good choices for you.
Gene
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75431 is a reply to message #75430] Sun, 05 November 2006 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
plan ready for scrutiny. Do you know of any? hmmmmm

Gene Lennon wrote:
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>
>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> hehe,
>> John
>>
>
> That’s fine. In the last few national elections many people with progressive
> ideas stayed home because they felt they had no good options. As a result,
> we have handed the country to people that “I” think are crooks, incompetent
> and worse. I can only hope that this time the other side stays home by the
> millions. To all my conservative Paris friends: Please pass on this election,
> and the next. There are no good choices for you.
> Gene
>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75432 is a reply to message #75431] Sun, 05 November 2006 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>plan ready for scrutiny. Do you know of any? hmmmmm
>

John,
If you think I believe the Dems have a perfect plan and will make everything
swell, you are sadly mistaken. I believe the Democrats will have their share
of crooks and liars, including plenty of pocket lining old school fat cats.


Even so they will be FAR better.

It is sad that we always have to choose between the “Lesser Of Two Evils”,
but it is the nature of our two-party system. However… this is the worst
and most dangerous administration in the modern era and they have to go.
I only hope my vote will actually be counted.
Gene
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75433 is a reply to message #75432] Sun, 05 November 2006 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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Actually I may be spending Election Day hiding indoors.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061105/D8L74U4O0.html
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75436 is a reply to message #75431] Sun, 05 November 2006 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Graham Duncan is currently offline  Graham Duncan   
Messages: 147
Registered: December 2008
Senior Member
You know John, I hear you! Maybe you should run for office?

The problem I see is this: people are for the most part pretty stupid.
Shocking, I know. Who in this country would actually read a detailed plan
of action? I think if there were enough people who demand that (over say
probably the meager 15% who care) that might happen. But that doesn't sound
like the US to me...

Who actually cares about anything if nothing really touches their daily lives?
At what point does your average citizen stand up and go to the streets?
I'm really amazed at our populace's (and my own) ability to sit comfortably
watching TV. But if you don't have a draft touching you, or if you don't
think your privacy counts for anything, then no one really cares. Sad, really.
But I feel like my own voice is pretty drowned out by complacency...

I also hope my vote is counted, even if I can't stand most of the people
I'm voting for. Would our election process stand up to world scrutiny?
No. There has to be a better way.

Oh, and while I'm on a rant, I can't stand that horrible John Mellencamp
"song" Chevrolet is hawking on TV. Oh, right, rural white dudes own the
country. We've come so far!

So, how many of us here are still using Paris?

Peace,

Graham (who is probably stupid too)

John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>plan ready for scrutiny. Do you know of any? hmmmmm
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75440 is a reply to message #75426] Sun, 05 November 2006 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection
to come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
voting for someone you think is incompetent.

I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
ballot.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


John wrote:
> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>
> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>
>
> hehe,
> John
>
> Jamie K wrote:
>>
>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>
>>> Love,
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75441 is a reply to message #75440] Sun, 05 November 2006 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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Ah, a voice of reason, (Remember, You Get What You Pay For...)
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454e9689@linux...
>
> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection to
> come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
> voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>
> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
> reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
> ballot.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> John wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed plan
>> ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> hehe,
>> John
>>
>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>
>>>> Love,
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75442 is a reply to message #75440] Sun, 05 November 2006 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
michael bliss is currently offline  michael bliss
Messages: 61
Registered: September 2005
Member
Kinky Friedman
vote independant, but at least vote.


Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection

>to come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be

>voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>
>I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no

>reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper

>ballot.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>John wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's

>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and

>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war

>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> hehe,
>> John
>>
>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at

>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>
>>>> Love,
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75480 is a reply to message #75440] Mon, 06 November 2006 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
I don't know if it's true, but I heard someone on the radio saying that
absentee ballots aren't even counted unless the margin is small enough for
them to make a difference. It doesn't sound right to me, but that's what
someone said on some radio talk show (don't even remember what show it was).

Tony


"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454e9689@linux...
>
> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection to
> come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
> voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>
> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
> reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
> ballot.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> John wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed plan
>> ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> hehe,
>> John
>>
>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>
>>>> Love,
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>
Re: OT: Vote . . . Please! [message #75481 is a reply to message #75480] Mon, 06 November 2006 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Could they have been referring to "provisional ballots" rather than
absentee ballots?

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



Tony Benson wrote:
> I don't know if it's true, but I heard someone on the radio saying that
> absentee ballots aren't even counted unless the margin is small enough for
> them to make a difference. It doesn't sound right to me, but that's what
> someone said on some radio talk show (don't even remember what show it was).
>
> Tony
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454e9689@linux...
>> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection to
>> come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
>> voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>>
>> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
>> reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
>> ballot.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> John wrote:
>>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>>
>>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed plan
>>> ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>>
>>>
>>> hehe,
>>> John
>>>
>>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>>
>>>>> Love,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah
>>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>>
>
>
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