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System to compliment Paris [message #66953] Mon, 17 April 2006 03:48 Go to next message
Dan B is currently offline  Dan B
Messages: 54
Registered: June 2005
Member
Given that I move my rig around a fair bit and that's driving me nuts (MEC
with 8 i/o, adat card, 2 eds cards, desktop pc, flatpanels, separate pres
and mixing desk, etc), I was thinking about getting a laptop and an interface.
assuming a quiet laptop, i could then probably also track in the same room
which would be very sweet!

Interface wise, the goal is really to have something capable to tracking
acoustic guitar with at least 3 inputs. That said, might be useful to have
the option for midi and extra inputs (you could just about track drums with
8). I think the focusrite sapphire pro is the best bet here (8 pre amps,
adat, midi and spdif i/o, etc).

however, where i'm more stuck is the software front. since most of my ongoing
projects are trapped in paris, it'd be very useful to have some kind of communicability
between the systems. e.g. exporting projects. i'm guessing OMF works for
protools. but i've heard good things about cubase sx3. it'd be nice to have
something that can handle softsynths, midi, automatic latency compensation,
etc.

it'd be great to be able to transfer projects from paris to the laptop, do
most of the additional tracking and editing in the laptop, and mix in paris
(perhaps streaming out of the laptop into paris). otherwise mixing would
i guess require rendering out from the laptop as 24bit wavs with the same
start time, converting individually to 24 bit pafs (is there a bulk utility
for this?) and importing.

i'm leaning towards sx3 and doing transfers via adat (or even d/a then a/d).
a little worried about unnecessary a/d and the 20bit limitations on adat.
is there a more elegant solution, perhaps?

finally, i'm pretty clueless beyond paris in terms of interface, so something
logical, similar or relatively straightforward to learn (but not necessarily
limited in features) would be great.

many thanks for any thoughts,
dan
Re: System to compliment Paris [message #66960 is a reply to message #66953] Mon, 17 April 2006 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Macy is currently offline  John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
I have a ProTools 002R and an MBox I use on a PC laptop
for small overdub sessions in non-studio situations. It
is real easy to consolidate the tracks and dump them in
a folder on the firewire drive for an easy import into
Paris. The bonus for me is that I end up in a lot of
ProTools studios for tracking dates, and it has gotten
me a lot more fluid on PT for these dates.



"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Given that I move my rig around a fair bit and that's driving me nuts (MEC
>with 8 i/o, adat card, 2 eds cards, desktop pc, flatpanels, separate pres
>and mixing desk, etc), I was thinking about getting a laptop and an interface.
>assuming a quiet laptop, i could then probably also track in the same room
>which would be very sweet!
>
>Interface wise, the goal is really to have something capable to tracking
>acoustic guitar with at least 3 inputs. That said, might be useful to have
>the option for midi and extra inputs (you could just about track drums with
>8). I think the focusrite sapphire pro is the best bet here (8 pre amps,
>adat, midi and spdif i/o, etc).
>
>however, where i'm more stuck is the software front. since most of my ongoing
>projects are trapped in paris, it'd be very useful to have some kind of
communicability
>between the systems. e.g. exporting projects. i'm guessing OMF works for
>protools. but i've heard good things about cubase sx3. it'd be nice to have
>something that can handle softsynths, midi, automatic latency compensation,
>etc.
>
>it'd be great to be able to transfer projects from paris to the laptop,
do
>most of the additional tracking and editing in the laptop, and mix in paris
>(perhaps streaming out of the laptop into paris). otherwise mixing would
>i guess require rendering out from the laptop as 24bit wavs with the same
>start time, converting individually to 24 bit pafs (is there a bulk utility
>for this?) and importing.
>
>i'm leaning towards sx3 and doing transfers via adat (or even d/a then a/d).
>a little worried about unnecessary a/d and the 20bit limitations on adat.
>is there a more elegant solution, perhaps?
>
>finally, i'm pretty clueless beyond paris in terms of interface, so something
>logical, similar or relatively straightforward to learn (but not necessarily
>limited in features) would be great.
>
>many thanks for any thoughts,
>dan
Re: System to compliment Paris (ProTools?): laptopable [message #66995 is a reply to message #66960] Tue, 18 April 2006 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dan B is currently offline  Dan B
Messages: 54
Registered: June 2005
Member
Thanks John.
That would definitely be a sweet setup!
Currently clueless when it comes to PT. Presumably you can run VSTs etc in
PT (?). Also, would it be possible to use PT software with a non-PT interface?
To me the Focusrite Sapphire Pro would cover way more bases than the 002R
unit (not least 8 mic pres), and for the same price as the M-Box.

Cheers,
dan

"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>I have a ProTools 002R and an MBox I use on a PC laptop
>for small overdub sessions in non-studio situations. It
>is real easy to consolidate the tracks and dump them in
>a folder on the firewire drive for an easy import into
>Paris. The bonus for me is that I end up in a lot of
>ProTools studios for tracking dates, and it has gotten
>me a lot more fluid on PT for these dates.
>
>
>
>"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Given that I move my rig around a fair bit and that's driving me nuts (MEC
>>with 8 i/o, adat card, 2 eds cards, desktop pc, flatpanels, separate pres
>>and mixing desk, etc), I was thinking about getting a laptop and an interface.
>>assuming a quiet laptop, i could then probably also track in the same room
>>which would be very sweet!
>>
>>Interface wise, the goal is really to have something capable to tracking
>>acoustic guitar with at least 3 inputs. That said, might be useful to have
>>the option for midi and extra inputs (you could just about track drums
with
>>8). I think the focusrite sapphire pro is the best bet here (8 pre amps,
>>adat, midi and spdif i/o, etc).
>>
>>however, where i'm more stuck is the software front. since most of my ongoing
>>projects are trapped in paris, it'd be very useful to have some kind of
>communicability
>>between the systems. e.g. exporting projects. i'm guessing OMF works for
>>protools. but i've heard good things about cubase sx3. it'd be nice to
have
>>something that can handle softsynths, midi, automatic latency compensation,
>>etc.
>>
>>it'd be great to be able to transfer projects from paris to the laptop,
>do
>>most of the additional tracking and editing in the laptop, and mix in paris
>>(perhaps streaming out of the laptop into paris). otherwise mixing would
>>i guess require rendering out from the laptop as 24bit wavs with the same
>>start time, converting individually to 24 bit pafs (is there a bulk utility
>>for this?) and importing.
>>
>>i'm leaning towards sx3 and doing transfers via adat (or even d/a then
a/d).
>>a little worried about unnecessary a/d and the 20bit limitations on adat.
>>is there a more elegant solution, perhaps?
>>
>>finally, i'm pretty clueless beyond paris in terms of interface, so something
>>logical, similar or relatively straightforward to learn (but not necessarily
>>limited in features) would be great.
>>
>>many thanks for any thoughts,
>>dan
>
Re: System to compliment Paris (ProTools?): laptopable [message #67000 is a reply to message #66995] Tue, 18 April 2006 01:46 Go to previous message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Sorry Dan, but PT will only work with PT hardware or selected M-Audio
hardware
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:44449e2b$1@linux...
>
> Thanks John.
> That would definitely be a sweet setup!
> Currently clueless when it comes to PT. Presumably you can run VSTs etc in
> PT (?). Also, would it be possible to use PT software with a non-PT
> interface?
> To me the Focusrite Sapphire Pro would cover way more bases than the 002R
> unit (not least 8 mic pres), and for the same price as the M-Box.
>
> Cheers,
> dan
>
> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>I have a ProTools 002R and an MBox I use on a PC laptop
>>for small overdub sessions in non-studio situations. It
>>is real easy to consolidate the tracks and dump them in
>>a folder on the firewire drive for an easy import into
>>Paris. The bonus for me is that I end up in a lot of
>>ProTools studios for tracking dates, and it has gotten
>>me a lot more fluid on PT for these dates.
>>
>>
>>
>>"db" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Given that I move my rig around a fair bit and that's driving me nuts
>>>(MEC
>>>with 8 i/o, adat card, 2 eds cards, desktop pc, flatpanels, separate pres
>>>and mixing desk, etc), I was thinking about getting a laptop and an
>>>interface.
>>>assuming a quiet laptop, i could then probably also track in the same
>>>room
>>>which would be very sweet!
>>>
>>>Interface wise, the goal is really to have something capable to tracking
>>>acoustic guitar with at least 3 inputs. That said, might be useful to
>>>have
>>>the option for midi and extra inputs (you could just about track drums
> with
>>>8). I think the focusrite sapphire pro is the best bet here (8 pre amps,
>>>adat, midi and spdif i/o, etc).
>>>
>>>however, where i'm more stuck is the software front. since most of my
>>>ongoing
>>>projects are trapped in paris, it'd be very useful to have some kind of
>>communicability
>>>between the systems. e.g. exporting projects. i'm guessing OMF works for
>>>protools. but i've heard good things about cubase sx3. it'd be nice to
> have
>>>something that can handle softsynths, midi, automatic latency
>>>compensation,
>>>etc.
>>>
>>>it'd be great to be able to transfer projects from paris to the laptop,
>>do
>>>most of the additional tracking and editing in the laptop, and mix in
>>>paris
>>>(perhaps streaming out of the laptop into paris). otherwise mixing would
>>>i guess require rendering out from the laptop as 24bit wavs with the same
>>>start time, converting individually to 24 bit pafs (is there a bulk
>>>utility
>>>for this?) and importing.
>>>
>>>i'm leaning towards sx3 and doing transfers via adat (or even d/a then
> a/d).
>>>a little worried about unnecessary a/d and the 20bit limitations on adat.
>>>is there a more elegant solution, perhaps?
>>>
>>>finally, i'm pretty clueless beyond paris in terms of interface, so
>>>something
>>>logical, similar or relatively straightforward to learn (but not
>>>necessarily
>>>limited in features) would be great.
>>>
>>>many thanks for any thoughts,
>>>dan
>>
>
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