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New PC - Paris won't run [message #99070] Thu, 05 June 2008 06:18 Go to next message
Warren is currently offline  Warren
Messages: 15
Registered: August 2005
Junior Member
I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my Paris
rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start up.
I get
"Unhandled eception: c00000005
At address: 003897c1"
The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not sharing
IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and a
G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it would
be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Warren
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99071 is a reply to message #99070] Thu, 05 June 2008 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
What operating system?

David.

Warren wrote:
> I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my Paris
> rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start up.
> I get
> "Unhandled eception: c00000005
> At address: 003897c1"
> The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not sharing
> IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and a
> G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it would
> be greatly appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Warren
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99073 is a reply to message #99070] Thu, 05 June 2008 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
FWIW, I have had Paris running flawlwssly on a p4p800s, and prior to that,
a p4pe.
Both are intel chipsets.
I reckon a clean XP install, with hyperthreading turned off,
*should* do the trick.
(Provided you use the correct driver and install procedure.

http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html

Good Luck.

Kim




"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my Paris
>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start up.
>I get
>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>At address: 003897c1"
>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not sharing
>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and a
>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
would
>be greatly appreciated.
>
>Cheers,
>Warren
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99074 is a reply to message #99073] Thu, 05 June 2008 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
...Also, the G450 should work, but a Nvidia card would be
better.
(I was running two G450's on the P4p800s, but these cards had
issues when shifting windows across the four screens.
Playback would stop).
Can't understand why you would want to use SCSI, though.
Do yourself a favour... pull the drives and card, and buy yourself a
7200rpm IDE drive. Any cheap-ass 7200rpm drive
for around 50 bucks would give you enough throughput for 64 tracks.

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>FWIW, I have had Paris running flawlwssly on a p4p800s, and prior to that,
>a p4pe.
>Both are intel chipsets.
>I reckon a clean XP install, with hyperthreading turned off,
>*should* do the trick.
>(Provided you use the correct driver and install procedure.
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>
>Good Luck.
>
>Kim
>
>
>
>
>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
Paris
>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
up.
>>I get
>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>At address: 003897c1"
>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not sharing
>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
a
>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
>would
>>be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Warren
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99084 is a reply to message #99071] Thu, 05 June 2008 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Warren is currently offline  Warren
Messages: 15
Registered: August 2005
Junior Member
EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>What operating system?
>
>David.
>

D'oh!!! Win XP. I've been running XP on my old PIII 1ghz for the last 3
years without a hitch, it worked straight up.
>Warren wrote:
>> I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
Paris
>> rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
up.
>> I get
>> "Unhandled eception: c00000005
>> At address: 003897c1"
>> The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not
sharing
>> IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
a
>> G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
would
>> be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Warren
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99085 is a reply to message #99074] Thu, 05 June 2008 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Warren is currently offline  Warren
Messages: 15
Registered: August 2005
Junior Member
Thanks a bunch for that. which Invidia card did/do you use?
re: the scsi, I guess I'm just old fashioned and the scsi card and drives
didn't cost me anything and having 10, 15k drives makes me feel hi-tech!
5 year old drives running on a 8 year ols system ..real hi-tech!!!

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>..Also, the G450 should work, but a Nvidia card would be
>better.
>(I was running two G450's on the P4p800s, but these cards had
>issues when shifting windows across the four screens.
>Playback would stop).
>Can't understand why you would want to use SCSI, though.
>Do yourself a favour... pull the drives and card, and buy yourself a
>7200rpm IDE drive. Any cheap-ass 7200rpm drive
>for around 50 bucks would give you enough throughput for 64 tracks.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>FWIW, I have had Paris running flawlwssly on a p4p800s, and prior to that,
>>a p4pe.
>>Both are intel chipsets.
>>I reckon a clean XP install, with hyperthreading turned off,
>>*should* do the trick.
>>(Provided you use the correct driver and install procedure.
>>
>>http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>>
>>Good Luck.
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
>Paris
>>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
>up.
>>>I get
>>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>>At address: 003897c1"
>>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not
sharing
>>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
>a
>>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
>>would
>>>be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Warren
>>
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99094 is a reply to message #99070] Thu, 05 June 2008 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mike audet[3] is currently offline  mike audet[3]
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Member
Hi Warren,

Try disabling bus mastering in the G450 driver.

Let me know how it goes.

Mike

"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my Paris
>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start up.
>I get
>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>At address: 003897c1"
>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not sharing
>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and a
>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
would
>be greatly appreciated.
>
>Cheers,
>Warren
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99096 is a reply to message #99085] Thu, 05 June 2008 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Hi Warren.
Still usind a pair of old dual output NVS280 Quadro's.
They are only 64mb, but are perfectly adequate for anything
but modern gaming.
Others here are using newer cards with no problem, but I
don't recall the model numbers.
Kim

"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks a bunch for that. which Invidia card did/do you use?
>re: the scsi, I guess I'm just old fashioned and the scsi card and drives
>didn't cost me anything and having 10, 15k drives makes me feel hi-tech!
>5 year old drives running on a 8 year ols system ..real hi-tech!!!
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>..Also, the G450 should work, but a Nvidia card would be
>>better.
>>(I was running two G450's on the P4p800s, but these cards had
>>issues when shifting windows across the four screens.
>>Playback would stop).
>>Can't understand why you would want to use SCSI, though.
>>Do yourself a favour... pull the drives and card, and buy yourself a
>>7200rpm IDE drive. Any cheap-ass 7200rpm drive
>>for around 50 bucks would give you enough throughput for 64 tracks.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>FWIW, I have had Paris running flawlwssly on a p4p800s, and prior to that,
>>>a p4pe.
>>>Both are intel chipsets.
>>>I reckon a clean XP install, with hyperthreading turned off,
>>>*should* do the trick.
>>>(Provided you use the correct driver and install procedure.
>>>
>>>http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>>>
>>>Good Luck.
>>>
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
>>Paris
>>>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
>>up.
>>>>I get
>>>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>>>At address: 003897c1"
>>>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not
>sharing
>>>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
>>a
>>>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run ..
it
>>>would
>>>>be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Warren
>>>
>>
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99121 is a reply to message #99094] Sun, 08 June 2008 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Warren is currently offline  Warren
Messages: 15
Registered: August 2005
Junior Member
Hi Mike,

I have tried several things now none of which have worked - still getting
the same error message. I'm not sure how I disable bus mastering on the G450
driver. I had a look at the driver preferences etc but couldn't see any bus
mastering option.

Thanks,
Warren
"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>
>Hi Warren,
>
>Try disabling bus mastering in the G450 driver.
>
>Let me know how it goes.
>
>Mike
>
>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
Paris
>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
up.
>>I get
>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>At address: 003897c1"
>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not sharing
>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
a
>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
>would
>>be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Warren
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99122 is a reply to message #99096] Sun, 08 June 2008 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Warren is currently offline  Warren
Messages: 15
Registered: August 2005
Junior Member
another day, another fresh install, change of PCI position for the scsi card,
hyperthreading disabled and still no luck getting Paris to run .. same "unhandled
exception" error.
I'm running out of ideas fast .. I really don't want to ditch my scsi drives
as I have 4 or 5 drives which I use for backup and remember doing comparisons
with ide when I first got scsi drives and felt they performed significantly
better (maybe in my head) Do I just stick with my working dinosaur PIII?
the whole thing is driving me nuts and I've never had major issues with Paris
before in 7 years of using it .. so much for my cheap and easy upgrade.
Any further wisdom or light bulbs would sure improve my weekend.
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Warren.
>Still usind a pair of old dual output NVS280 Quadro's.
>They are only 64mb, but are perfectly adequate for anything
>but modern gaming.
>Others here are using newer cards with no problem, but I
>don't recall the model numbers.
>Kim
>
>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks a bunch for that. which Invidia card did/do you use?
>>re: the scsi, I guess I'm just old fashioned and the scsi card and drives
>>didn't cost me anything and having 10, 15k drives makes me feel hi-tech!
>>5 year old drives running on a 8 year ols system ..real hi-tech!!!
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>..Also, the G450 should work, but a Nvidia card would be
>>>better.
>>>(I was running two G450's on the P4p800s, but these cards had
>>>issues when shifting windows across the four screens.
>>>Playback would stop).
>>>Can't understand why you would want to use SCSI, though.
>>>Do yourself a favour... pull the drives and card, and buy yourself a
>>>7200rpm IDE drive. Any cheap-ass 7200rpm drive
>>>for around 50 bucks would give you enough throughput for 64 tracks.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>FWIW, I have had Paris running flawlwssly on a p4p800s, and prior to
that,
>>>>a p4pe.
>>>>Both are intel chipsets.
>>>>I reckon a clean XP install, with hyperthreading turned off,
>>>>*should* do the trick.
>>>>(Provided you use the correct driver and install procedure.
>>>>
>>>>http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>>>>
>>>>Good Luck.
>>>>
>>>>Kim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade
my
>>>Paris
>>>>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
>>>up.
>>>>>I get
>>>>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>>>>At address: 003897c1"
>>>>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not
>>sharing
>>>>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
>>>a
>>>>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run ..
>it
>>>>would
>>>>>be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Warren
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99125 is a reply to message #99122] Sun, 08 June 2008 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Audet is currently offline  Mike Audet
Messages: 294
Registered: December 2008
Senior Member
Hi Warren,

I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've already
tried these things.

Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding the
line:

DisableDirectX=1

Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris directory.

make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no VST plugins
in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:

VSTDirectory=C:\vst\

Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything else
involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when starting
PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.

You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.

Good luck!

Mike
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99126 is a reply to message #99125] Sun, 08 June 2008 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Warren is currently offline  Warren
Messages: 15
Registered: August 2005
Junior Member
Mike,

Thanks for that, I haven't tried any of those options. I've been doing fresh
installs each time so the only plugins installed are the default Paris ones
so, unlikely?
I'll give your suggestions a try and see what happens, after that I've run
out of options. I do have another version of XP I will try not that I see
that making any difference.

Thanks again,
Warren
"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>
>Hi Warren,
>
>I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've already
>tried these things.
>
>Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding
the
>line:
>
>DisableDirectX=1
>
>Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris directory.
>
>make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no VST
plugins
>in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:
>
>VSTDirectory=C:\vst\
>
>Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything else
>involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
> The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when starting
>PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.
>
>You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99129 is a reply to message #99126] Sun, 08 June 2008 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:484c7274$1@linux...
>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for that, I haven't tried any of those options. I've been doing
> fresh
> installs each time so the only plugins installed are the default Paris
> ones
> so, unlikely?
> I'll give your suggestions a try and see what happens, after that I've run
> out of options. I do have another version of XP I will try not that I see
> that making any difference.
>


different XP.....I can't see how that'll help. Have you tried to install
only one EDS at a time, and make SURE in the BIOS that it is not sharing an
IRQ with anything else. Kill stuff like USB, modem, COM ports, LPT port.
Strip it down to the absolute bare necessities. Check the hardware list once
you've done this to make sure again that there is no IRQ sharing. if it is,
move the EDS to another PCI slot.
Also, when you install Paris, make it go to C:\Paris and also when putting
the XP drivers in make sure they do the same... by default they do NOT. Pay
close attention to this.

G'luck, report back.
AA



> Thanks again,
> Warren
> "Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Warren,
>>
>>I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've already
>>tried these things.
>>
>>Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding
> the
>>line:
>>
>>DisableDirectX=1
>>
>>Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris directory.
>>
>>make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no VST
> plugins
>>in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:
>>
>>VSTDirectory=C:\vst\
>>
>>Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything else
>>involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
>> The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when
>> starting
>>PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.
>>
>>You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.
>>
>>Good luck!
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99131 is a reply to message #99129] Sun, 08 June 2008 18:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mike audet[3] is currently offline  mike audet[3]
Messages: 88
Registered: June 2008
Member
Hi Aaron,

I think you are on to something with the effects update installing into the
wrong directory. The weirdest part of this is that it is an unhandled exception,
not an error 1/1, which suggests that it is not an IRQ issue.

The only time I've seen that is with a bad effect.

It could be a direct X issue, too, even if there are no audio dx plugins
installed because video apps and drivers install dx stuff, too.

Anyway, I hope this gets solved soon.

Mike

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:484c7274$1@linux...
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Thanks for that, I haven't tried any of those options. I've been doing

>> fresh
>> installs each time so the only plugins installed are the default Paris

>> ones
>> so, unlikely?
>> I'll give your suggestions a try and see what happens, after that I've
run
>> out of options. I do have another version of XP I will try not that I
see
>> that making any difference.
>>
>
>
>different XP.....I can't see how that'll help. Have you tried to install

>only one EDS at a time, and make SURE in the BIOS that it is not sharing
an
>IRQ with anything else. Kill stuff like USB, modem, COM ports, LPT port.

>Strip it down to the absolute bare necessities. Check the hardware list
once
>you've done this to make sure again that there is no IRQ sharing. if it
is,
>move the EDS to another PCI slot.
>Also, when you install Paris, make it go to C:\Paris and also when putting

>the XP drivers in make sure they do the same... by default they do NOT.
Pay
>close attention to this.
>
>G'luck, report back.
>AA
>
>
>
>> Thanks again,
>> Warren
>> "Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Warren,
>>>
>>>I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've already
>>>tried these things.
>>>
>>>Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding
>> the
>>>line:
>>>
>>>DisableDirectX=1
>>>
>>>Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris directory.
>>>
>>>make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no VST
>> plugins
>>>in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:
>>>
>>>VSTDirectory=C:\vst\
>>>
>>>Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything else
>>>involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
>>> The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when
>>> starting
>>>PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.
>>>
>>>You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.
>>>
>>>Good luck!
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99132 is a reply to message #99131] Sun, 08 June 2008 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
If the DX plugs have a rogue, something like AnalogX's DX manager might cure
that. I know Vegas installed (as well as cakewalk/sonar, nero, Ulead and a
few other apps) some pretty Paris-unfriendly DX stuff when I was trying to
multiapp my Paris machine at one point.

AA


"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote in message news:484c8860$1@linux...
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> I think you are on to something with the effects update installing into
> the
> wrong directory. The weirdest part of this is that it is an unhandled
> exception,
> not an error 1/1, which suggests that it is not an IRQ issue.
>
> The only time I've seen that is with a bad effect.
>
> It could be a direct X issue, too, even if there are no audio dx plugins
> installed because video apps and drivers install dx stuff, too.
>
> Anyway, I hope this gets solved soon.
>
> Mike
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:484c7274$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Thanks for that, I haven't tried any of those options. I've been doing
>
>>> fresh
>>> installs each time so the only plugins installed are the default Paris
>
>>> ones
>>> so, unlikely?
>>> I'll give your suggestions a try and see what happens, after that I've
> run
>>> out of options. I do have another version of XP I will try not that I
> see
>>> that making any difference.
>>>
>>
>>
>>different XP.....I can't see how that'll help. Have you tried to install
>
>>only one EDS at a time, and make SURE in the BIOS that it is not sharing
> an
>>IRQ with anything else. Kill stuff like USB, modem, COM ports, LPT port.
>
>>Strip it down to the absolute bare necessities. Check the hardware list
> once
>>you've done this to make sure again that there is no IRQ sharing. if it
> is,
>>move the EDS to another PCI slot.
>>Also, when you install Paris, make it go to C:\Paris and also when putting
>
>>the XP drivers in make sure they do the same... by default they do NOT.
> Pay
>>close attention to this.
>>
>>G'luck, report back.
>>AA
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Warren
>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Warren,
>>>>
>>>>I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've
>>>>already
>>>>tried these things.
>>>>
>>>>Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding
>>> the
>>>>line:
>>>>
>>>>DisableDirectX=1
>>>>
>>>>Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris
>>>>directory.
>>>>
>>>>make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no VST
>>> plugins
>>>>in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:
>>>>
>>>>VSTDirectory=C:\vst\
>>>>
>>>>Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything else
>>>>involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
>>>> The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when
>>>> starting
>>>>PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.
>>>>
>>>>You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck!
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99134 is a reply to message #99129] Sun, 08 June 2008 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Warren is currently offline  Warren
Messages: 15
Registered: August 2005
Junior Member
Aaron,

Have disabled everything in the bios and the EDS cards are not sharing IRQ's.
Different XP .. as you can see I'm at the clutchting at straws stage. I did
install to the default folder - Program Files\EMU etc so, I will give that
a go.

Thanks,
Warren
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:484c7274$1@linux...
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Thanks for that, I haven't tried any of those options. I've been doing

>> fresh
>> installs each time so the only plugins installed are the default Paris

>> ones
>> so, unlikely?
>> I'll give your suggestions a try and see what happens, after that I've
run
>> out of options. I do have another version of XP I will try not that I
see
>> that making any difference.
>>
>
>
>different XP.....I can't see how that'll help. Have you tried to install

>only one EDS at a time, and make SURE in the BIOS that it is not sharing
an
>IRQ with anything else. Kill stuff like USB, modem, COM ports, LPT port.

>Strip it down to the absolute bare necessities. Check the hardware list
once
>you've done this to make sure again that there is no IRQ sharing. if it
is,
>move the EDS to another PCI slot.
>Also, when you install Paris, make it go to C:\Paris and also when putting

>the XP drivers in make sure they do the same... by default they do NOT.
Pay
>close attention to this.
>
>G'luck, report back.
>AA
>
>
>
>> Thanks again,
>> Warren
>> "Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Warren,
>>>
>>>I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've already
>>>tried these things.
>>>
>>>Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding
>> the
>>>line:
>>>
>>>DisableDirectX=1
>>>
>>>Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris directory.
>>>
>>>make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no VST
>> plugins
>>>in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:
>>>
>>>VSTDirectory=C:\vst\
>>>
>>>Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything else
>>>involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
>>> The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when
>>> starting
>>>PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.
>>>
>>>You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.
>>>
>>>Good luck!
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99135 is a reply to message #99134] Sun, 08 June 2008 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
Paris is known to be less stable the longer the path name in the install...
for instance
C:\Paris
is more stable than
C:\Program Files\Paris

AA


"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:484c91f0$1@linux...
>
> Aaron,
>
> Have disabled everything in the bios and the EDS cards are not sharing
> IRQ's.
> Different XP .. as you can see I'm at the clutchting at straws stage. I
> did
> install to the default folder - Program Files\EMU etc so, I will give that
> a go.
>
> Thanks,
> Warren
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:484c7274$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Thanks for that, I haven't tried any of those options. I've been doing
>
>>> fresh
>>> installs each time so the only plugins installed are the default Paris
>
>>> ones
>>> so, unlikely?
>>> I'll give your suggestions a try and see what happens, after that I've
> run
>>> out of options. I do have another version of XP I will try not that I
> see
>>> that making any difference.
>>>
>>
>>
>>different XP.....I can't see how that'll help. Have you tried to install
>
>>only one EDS at a time, and make SURE in the BIOS that it is not sharing
> an
>>IRQ with anything else. Kill stuff like USB, modem, COM ports, LPT port.
>
>>Strip it down to the absolute bare necessities. Check the hardware list
> once
>>you've done this to make sure again that there is no IRQ sharing. if it
> is,
>>move the EDS to another PCI slot.
>>Also, when you install Paris, make it go to C:\Paris and also when putting
>
>>the XP drivers in make sure they do the same... by default they do NOT.
> Pay
>>close attention to this.
>>
>>G'luck, report back.
>>AA
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Warren
>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Warren,
>>>>
>>>>I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've
>>>>already
>>>>tried these things.
>>>>
>>>>Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding
>>> the
>>>>line:
>>>>
>>>>DisableDirectX=1
>>>>
>>>>Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris
>>>>directory.
>>>>
>>>>make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no VST
>>> plugins
>>>>in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:
>>>>
>>>>VSTDirectory=C:\vst\
>>>>
>>>>Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything else
>>>>involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
>>>> The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when
>>>> starting
>>>>PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.
>>>>
>>>>You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck!
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99137 is a reply to message #99134] Sun, 08 June 2008 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JeffH is currently offline  JeffH   UNITED STATES
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
Senior Member
Warren,

Did you try starting up without a default project in the Paris folder?

Jeff

wrote:
> Aaron,
>
> Have disabled everything in the bios and the EDS cards are not sharing IRQ's.
> Different XP .. as you can see I'm at the clutchting at straws stage. I did
> install to the default folder - Program Files\EMU etc so, I will give that
> a go.
>
> Thanks,
> Warren
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:484c7274$1@linux...
>>
>>>Mike,
>>>
>>>Thanks for that, I haven't tried any of those options. I've been doing
>
>
>>>fresh
>>>installs each time so the only plugins installed are the default Paris
>
>
>>>ones
>>>so, unlikely?
>>>I'll give your suggestions a try and see what happens, after that I've
>
> run
>
>>>out of options. I do have another version of XP I will try not that I
>
> see
>
>>>that making any difference.
>>>
>>
>>
>>different XP.....I can't see how that'll help. Have you tried to install
>
>
>>only one EDS at a time, and make SURE in the BIOS that it is not sharing
>
> an
>
>>IRQ with anything else. Kill stuff like USB, modem, COM ports, LPT port.
>
>
>>Strip it down to the absolute bare necessities. Check the hardware list
>
> once
>
>>you've done this to make sure again that there is no IRQ sharing. if it
>
> is,
>
>>move the EDS to another PCI slot.
>>Also, when you install Paris, make it go to C:\Paris and also when putting
>
>
>>the XP drivers in make sure they do the same... by default they do NOT.
>
> Pay
>
>>close attention to this.
>>
>>G'luck, report back.
>>AA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Thanks again,
>>>Warren
>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Warren,
>>>>
>>>>I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've already
>>>>tried these things.
>>>>
>>>>Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>line:
>>>>
>>>>DisableDirectX=1
>>>>
>>>>Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris directory.
>>>>
>>>>make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no VST
>>>
>>>plugins
>>>
>>>>in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:
>>>>
>>>>VSTDirectory=C:\vst\
>>>>
>>>>Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything else
>>>>involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
>>>>The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when
>>>>starting
>>>>PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.
>>>>
>>>>You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck!
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99138 is a reply to message #99137] Mon, 09 June 2008 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Warren is currently offline  Warren
Messages: 15
Registered: August 2005
Junior Member
Jeff,

No, that is probably the only thing I haven't tried. I have just spent another
whole day with countless fresh XP installs every time I try something new.
I even removed my SCSI card and drives today installing on an IDE drive with
the same "unhandled exception" message. Is it likely that a default project
could cause this? Basically I'm baffled and am at the point where I think
I should have just stuck with my crappy old PIII, the thing works and with
a reformat is as stable as they come.

Thanks for everyones help, keep you posted if anything works.

Warren
Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Warren,
>
>Did you try starting up without a default project in the Paris folder?
>
>Jeff
>
> wrote:
>> Aaron,
>>
>> Have disabled everything in the bios and the EDS cards are not sharing
IRQ's.
>> Different XP .. as you can see I'm at the clutchting at straws stage.
I did
>> install to the default folder - Program Files\EMU etc so, I will give
that
>> a go.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Warren
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:484c7274$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Mike,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for that, I haven't tried any of those options. I've been doing
>>
>>
>>>>fresh
>>>>installs each time so the only plugins installed are the default Paris
>>
>>
>>>>ones
>>>>so, unlikely?
>>>>I'll give your suggestions a try and see what happens, after that I've
>>
>> run
>>
>>>>out of options. I do have another version of XP I will try not that I
>>
>> see
>>
>>>>that making any difference.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>different XP.....I can't see how that'll help. Have you tried to install
>>
>>
>>>only one EDS at a time, and make SURE in the BIOS that it is not sharing
>>
>> an
>>
>>>IRQ with anything else. Kill stuff like USB, modem, COM ports, LPT port.
>>
>>
>>>Strip it down to the absolute bare necessities. Check the hardware list
>>
>> once
>>
>>>you've done this to make sure again that there is no IRQ sharing. if it
>>
>> is,
>>
>>>move the EDS to another PCI slot.
>>>Also, when you install Paris, make it go to C:\Paris and also when putting
>>
>>
>>>the XP drivers in make sure they do the same... by default they do NOT.
>>
>> Pay
>>
>>>close attention to this.
>>>
>>>G'luck, report back.
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>Warren
>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Warren,
>>>>>
>>>>>I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've already
>>>>>tried these things.
>>>>>
>>>>>Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>line:
>>>>>
>>>>>DisableDirectX=1
>>>>>
>>>>>Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris directory.
>>>>>
>>>>>make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no
VST
>>>>
>>>>plugins
>>>>
>>>>>in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:
>>>>>
>>>>>VSTDirectory=C:\vst\
>>>>>
>>>>>Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything
else
>>>>>involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
>>>>>The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when
>>>>>starting
>>>>>PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.
>>>>>
>>>>>You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99139 is a reply to message #99121] Mon, 09 June 2008 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Hi Warren.
Just to satisfy my curiosity, and assist the process of elimination,
Download and execute this little app:

http://www.freewarefiles.com/MemTest_program_20030.html

It is a memory tester, and runs by itself, without an install.

I recently had issues with a friend's PC, wjich was behaving strangely, and
Memtest spotted the incompatible RAM almost immediately.

Worth a try for the little time it takes.

Kim

"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>I have tried several things now none of which have worked - still getting
>the same error message. I'm not sure how I disable bus mastering on the
G450
>driver. I had a look at the driver preferences etc but couldn't see any
bus
>mastering option.
>
>Thanks,
>Warren
>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Warren,
>>
>>Try disabling bus mastering in the G450 driver.
>>
>>Let me know how it goes.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
>Paris
>>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
>up.
>>>I get
>>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>>At address: 003897c1"
>>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not
sharing
>>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
>a
>>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
>>would
>>>be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Warren
>>
>
Re: New PC - Paris won't run [message #99152 is a reply to message #99139] Mon, 09 June 2008 14:16 Go to previous message
Warren is currently offline  Warren
Messages: 15
Registered: August 2005
Junior Member
Kim,

I have thought that it may be a RAM issue, the only thing I've done is move
the RAM to different slots but didn't go as far as use one chip at a time,
I guess it's going to be a case of being ultra methodical. I guess I was
under the impression that XP was fairly fussy with RAM and I would have noticed
an issue during install. Thanks for the link, I shall give it a go.

Warren

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Warren.
>Just to satisfy my curiosity, and assist the process of elimination,
>Download and execute this little app:
>
>http://www.freewarefiles.com/MemTest_program_20030.html
>
>It is a memory tester, and runs by itself, without an install.
>
>I recently had issues with a friend's PC, wjich was behaving strangely,
and
>Memtest spotted the incompatible RAM almost immediately.
>
>Worth a try for the little time it takes.
>
>Kim
>
>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Mike,
>>
>>I have tried several things now none of which have worked - still getting
>>the same error message. I'm not sure how I disable bus mastering on the
>G450
>>driver. I had a look at the driver preferences etc but couldn't see any
>bus
>>mastering option.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Warren
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Warren,
>>>
>>>Try disabling bus mastering in the G450 driver.
>>>
>>>Let me know how it goes.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
>>Paris
>>>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
>>up.
>>>>I get
>>>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>>>At address: 003897c1"
>>>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not
>sharing
>>>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
>>a
>>>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run ..
it
>>>would
>>>>be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Warren
>>>
>>
>
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