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| Re: Charge extra to let clients sit in on mix session? [message #71358 is a reply to message #71332] |
Thu, 17 August 2006 08:47   |
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justin rice[1]
Messages: 12
Registered: August 2006
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Unless the person I'm working with is freakin annoying, I love it when the
client sits in. I get some conversation, the mix usually comes out a little
better for the client because they got their "input" in, and last but most
importantly, I get a bigger check because we spent more time doing it.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't the 'studio industry' in fairly
big
>trouble? Also, in my two lines of work, writer and IT consultant, I think
>that the client should be treated with a great deal of respect. After all,
>the client keeps my lights turned on and gas in my car and my greens fees
>paid. Are you guys all making so much money that you can treat your employers
>like shit and get away with it? Wish I had that job . . .
>
>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>gene Lennon wrote:
>>> "Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have a few potential clients that would like to sit in on a session
>while
>>>> I mix their tracks. I figure this will take extra time so it seems
fair
>>>> to charge and hourly rate on top of the flat fee for the mix.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Jesse
>>>
>>>
>>> What you need is a big sign in your control room.
>>>
>>>
>>> _________________________
>>> MIX RATES
>>>
>>> Standard Rate – $25/hour
>>> You Watch - $35/hour
>>> You Comment - $50/hour
>>> You Help - $100/hour
>>> _________________________
>>>
>>That made me laugh. Thanks.
>
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| Re: Charge extra to let clients sit in on mix session? [message #71386 is a reply to message #71334] |
Thu, 17 August 2006 19:20 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Tell him this (or something like it in your own words):
<begin letter>
Dear Billy-Bob,
When I charge my flat fee of $xxx per song, that fee is based
on the assumption that:
1.) I'll be doing the mixing in a timely fashion, but also more
or less at my convenience with regard to other scheduling
commitments I have.
2.) I'll be doing the mixing using certain sets of procedures
that I am accustomed to, and allows me to proceed with it in an
efficient manner, hence allowing me to charge that very
reasonable, aforementioned, flat fee.
3.) It allows for an initial mix or "trial mix" that I send to
clients, upon listening to which, they can offer up input as to
any changes or adjustments they might wish to hear, which I
then implement in order to get their final product.
For someone who wants to sit in on the entire proceedings,
a flat fee isn't really appropriate or relevant under those
conditions, since:
1.) I would have to schedule around not only my other
committments, but yours as well; which is fine, but also more
restrictive for both of us.
2.) I would no doubt be using a different set of procedures
than the ones that I am able to implement in my flat fee rate -
in other words, you would no doubt want to be more involved &
have ongoing input, ask questions, etc (otherwise why would you
want to be there, yes?), which could possibly alter the amount
of time spent on each mix.
3.) Instead of one "trial mix", there would likely be
several "trial mixes" & variants thereof made of each song
before you made a decision as to what you liked/didn't like
about each one.
Considering the above circumstances - which I am sure you can
identify with & relate to - if you want to sit in on a mix
session, I would be glad to accommodate you. Under those
circumstances, my normal hourly rate of $xx would apply.
Perhaps you might want to sit in on one mix & see how it goes;
that is, if you're interested in seeing how I work & the
processes I go through? If, after doing one song like that,
it's looking like it might be out of your budget range to do
all of them that way, then we can always switch to the flat fee
per song for the rest, using the first set of circumstances &
guidelines I outlined.
Let me know - looking forward to working with you!
<\end letter>
Send him that. He'll respond.
Neil
"Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Hehe you might be right as he hasnt emailed me back ;-)
>
>Maybe I'll follow up and let him know I didn't mean he'd be charged. I
told
>him the fee for the mix and that I also offer training at $30 an hour (which
>insinuated I'd charge him to sit in). But maybe I can reverse the outcome
>so far.
>
>Jesse
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>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote:
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>>Oh boy.. I wish!!
>>
>>Wouldn't that be cool. But if you do so, you will lose the client
>>IMO.
>>
>>You can, of course, lay down some rules about talking and giving
>>you constant advice while you are eq'ing a soloed track...
>>
>>"Oh, the mix went away!! It was so good a minute ago and now
>>the guitar is too loud!"
>>
>>grrrrrr
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I have a few potential clients that would like to sit in on a session
while
>>>I mix their tracks. I figure this will take extra time so it seems fair
>>>to charge and hourly rate on top of the flat fee for the mix.
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>>>
>>>Jesse
>>
>
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| Re: Charge extra to let clients sit in on mix session? [message #71513 is a reply to message #71386] |
Sun, 20 August 2006 18:56 |
Jesse Skeens
Messages: 53
Registered: November 2005
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"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>Tell him this (or something like it in your own words):
>
><begin letter>
>Dear Billy-Bob,
>
Thanks Neil, well put.
I actually wrote back that I wouldn't charge him to sit in and that the flat
fee for mixing ($150) would apply, os maybe that was high enough for him
already. no response so oh well. At least now I have a better idea how
to handle the next one that asks.
Jesse
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