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The Loudness War [message #88554] Wed, 25 July 2007 23:54 Go to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Your thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
Re: The Loudness War [message #88558 is a reply to message #88554] Thu, 26 July 2007 01:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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i was told "having thoughts" wasn't a good thing so i've stopped
having them...i think...yup, not a one here.

On 26 Jul 2007 16:54:11 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>Your thoughts?
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
Re: The Loudness War [message #88560 is a reply to message #88554] Thu, 26 July 2007 04:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's obvious stuff. You either want dynamics or not. I send everyone back
to Thriller school to listen to what dynamics are.

You start to freeze as horror looks you right between the eyes,
Youre paralyzed
Chorus
cause this is thriller, thriller night
And no ones gonna save you from the beast about strike
You know its thriller, thriller night
Youre fighting for your life inside a killer, thriller tonight
Re: The Loudness War [message #88561 is a reply to message #88554] Thu, 26 July 2007 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Your thoughts?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ

.............there's a volume knob?
Re: The Loudness War [message #88564 is a reply to message #88554] Thu, 26 July 2007 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Interesting.. To be honet, I'm forgeting what dynamics sounds like these day..

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Your thoughts?
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
Re: The Loudness War [message #88565 is a reply to message #88564] Thu, 26 July 2007 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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sad...

On 27 Jul 2007 03:56:35 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:

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>Interesting.. To be honet, I'm forgeting what dynamics sounds like these day..
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>Your thoughts?
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
Re: The Loudness War [message #88566 is a reply to message #88554] Thu, 26 July 2007 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just something to think about when mixing and mastering.


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Your thoughts?
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
Re: The Loudness War [message #88593 is a reply to message #88564] Fri, 27 July 2007 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Latham is currently offline  Chris Latham   UNITED STATES
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DYNAMICS... we're playing as loud as we can!!!


"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46a8e053$1@linux...
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> Interesting.. To be honet, I'm forgeting what dynamics sounds like these
> day..
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Your thoughts?
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
>
Re: The Loudness War [message #88594 is a reply to message #88593] Fri, 27 July 2007 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When mixing I like the concept of make everything louder than everything =
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"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =
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DYNAMICS... we're playing as loud as we can!!!


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> Interesting.. To be honet, I'm forgeting what dynamics sounds like =
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> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>Your thoughts?
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>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3Gmex_4hreQ
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Re: The Loudness War [message #88596 is a reply to message #88594] Sat, 28 July 2007 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is funny... the number of times you hear, "can you turn up the (blank)",
as opposed to the few times you hear somebody ask "can up turn down the
(blank)?"


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:46aadc15$1@linux...
When mixing I like the concept of make everything louder than everything
else . . .
Re: The Loudness War [message #88622 is a reply to message #88596] Sun, 29 July 2007 19:35 Go to previous message
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Hey Chris,
I don't mix with others in the room anymore. I couldn't stand the =
learning curve
that invariably took a complete 10 or more tracks for the band to learn =
the method.

I spend time understanding the bands concept of their production, I give =
my input, we agree=20
and then I mix. Once a mix is very very close to complete I email them =
a copy to get their=20
input again. Usually we're good, if not, it's one more time or have one =
or two members visit for
final tweaks. This is much less stressful for me and more fun/creative =
in general. I am usually
easy on the hourly rate just for the freedom it provides me. Everyone =
wins this way and
no silly comments in the control room at the most inopportune times.
T.

"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =
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It is funny... the number of times you hear, "can you turn up the =
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as opposed to the few times you hear somebody ask "can up turn down =
the=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Chris,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't mix with others in the room =
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I couldn't stand the learning curve</FONT></DIV>
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more tracks=20
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visit for</FONT></DIV>
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