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| OT: When it rains... [message #66126] |
Tue, 04 April 2006 17:46  |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
them out a check this past Monday morning.
Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
& grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
"Fuck"
"Indeed"
(OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
if he did) :)
Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
the end of that pipe in either case.
Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
this shit done).
This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
AUUUGGGH!!!!
I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
Neil, lamenting his circumstances
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| Re: When it rains... [message #66127 is a reply to message #66126] |
Tue, 04 April 2006 19:54  |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
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Jesus Neil, quit complaining. I can't find a Win XP driver for my Opcode
SonicPort and eBay just changed my password. Damn, I can't bid on a pair of
pants. Let's put things in perspective, ok. Seriously, sorry to hear about
the major difficulties. Oh bad luck comes in threes. Did three bad things
happen yet?:-)
Rich
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44331378$1@linux...
>
> Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
> something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
> someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
> THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
>
> So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
> only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
> using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
> swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
> bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
> something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
> impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
> put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
> out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
> can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
> cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
> sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
> the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
> time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
> valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
> Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
> thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
> of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
> they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
> them out a check this past Monday morning.
>
> Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
> bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
> she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
> or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
> them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
> & grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
> pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
> she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
> Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
> it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
> wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
> from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
> so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
> the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
> the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
> insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
> for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
> which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
> tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
> valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
> repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
> that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
> valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
> right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
> time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
> years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
> this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
> "Fuck"
> "Indeed"
> (OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
> if he did) :)
> Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
> kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
> line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
> through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
> grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
> nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
> wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
> the end of that pipe in either case.
>
> Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
>
> Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
> hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
> So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
> damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
> hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
> so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
> half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
> right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
> course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
> that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
> being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
> thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
> for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
> also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
> Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
> to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
> this shit done).
>
> This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
> imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
> but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
>
> And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
> valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
> two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
> streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
>
> AUUUGGGH!!!!
>
> I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
> out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
>
> Neil, lamenting his circumstances
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| Re: When it rains... [message #66129 is a reply to message #66126] |
Tue, 04 April 2006 17:56 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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You just need to build another computer so that you can run 2 x UAD-1 cards
in your Cubase host computer and 3 x UAD-1's in the server computer using FX
Teleport and, if you can get this happening, everything should be OK. Having
a place to live is secondary to this..........trust me.
;oP
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44331378$1@linux...
>
> Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
> something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
> someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
> THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
>
> So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
> only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
> using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
> swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
> bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
> something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
> impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
> put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
> out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
> can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
> cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
> sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
> the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
> time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
> valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
> Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
> thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
> of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
> they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
> them out a check this past Monday morning.
>
> Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
> bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
> she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
> or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
> them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
> & grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
> pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
> she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
> Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
> it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
> wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
> from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
> so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
> the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
> the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
> insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
> for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
> which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
> tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
> valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
> repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
> that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
> valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
> right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
> time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
> years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
> this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
> "Fuck"
> "Indeed"
> (OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
> if he did) :)
> Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
> kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
> line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
> through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
> grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
> nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
> wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
> the end of that pipe in either case.
>
> Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
>
> Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
> hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
> So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
> damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
> hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
> so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
> half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
> right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
> course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
> that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
> being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
> thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
> for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
> also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
> Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
> to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
> this shit done).
>
> This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
> imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
> but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
>
> And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
> valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
> two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
> streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
>
> AUUUGGGH!!!!
>
> I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
> out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
>
> Neil, lamenting his circumstances
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| Re: When it rains... [message #66133 is a reply to message #66127] |
Tue, 04 April 2006 18:17 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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I could tell you a story about a wobbly toilet that resulted in a new
bathroom floor and major plumbing work...but I won't
I could tell you about a small ice build up at the front of our house that
resulted in new soffit and facia work...but I won't
I could tell you about a leaky toilet that had a very minor run on every 3
minutes that ended up costing me over a $1000 in water charges over four
years...but I won't
I feel your pain
Don
"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:44331727@linux...
> Jesus Neil, quit complaining. I can't find a Win XP driver for my Opcode
> SonicPort and eBay just changed my password. Damn, I can't bid on a pair
> of
> pants. Let's put things in perspective, ok. Seriously, sorry to hear about
> the major difficulties. Oh bad luck comes in threes. Did three bad things
> happen yet?:-)
>
> Rich
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44331378$1@linux...
>>
>> Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
>> something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
>> someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
>> THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
>>
>> So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
>> only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
>> using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
>> swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
>> bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
>> something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
>> impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
>> put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
>> out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
>> can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
>> cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
>> sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
>> the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
>> time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
>> valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
>> Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
>> thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
>> of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
>> they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
>> them out a check this past Monday morning.
>>
>> Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
>> bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
>> she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
>> or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
>> them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
>> & grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
>> pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
>> she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
>> Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
>> it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
>> wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
>> from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
>> so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
>> the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
>> the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
>> insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
>> for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
>> which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
>> tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
>> valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
>> repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
>> that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
>> valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
>> right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
>> time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
>> years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
>> this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
>> "Fuck"
>> "Indeed"
>> (OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
>> if he did) :)
>> Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
>> kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
>> line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
>> through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
>> grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
>> nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
>> wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
>> the end of that pipe in either case.
>>
>> Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
>>
>> Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
>> hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
>> So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
>> damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
>> hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
>> so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
>> half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
>> right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
>> course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
>> that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
>> being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
>> thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
>> for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
>> also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
>> Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
>> to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
>> this shit done).
>>
>> This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
>> imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
>> but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
>>
>> And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
>> valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
>> two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
>> streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
>>
>> AUUUGGGH!!!!
>>
>> I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
>> out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
>>
>> Neil, lamenting his circumstances
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| Re: When it rains... [message #66136 is a reply to message #66127] |
Tue, 04 April 2006 20:28 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005
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Speaking of rain, or in this case water, I can tell you a little about going
off to another city for a Christmas party, and getting home the next day to
a house with a broken water pipe upstairs with water still running and the
entire lower floor flooded, needing new hardwood floors, wallboard,
ceilings, fixtures, etc, and the bad thing was that we pulled out the carpet
and hung it over the fences to let it dry out and somebody stole it! And
the really bad thing was that the house was covered for flood damage, unless
of course it was the result of a broken water pipe!!! I won't even mention
the repair costs. This adds up to more than 3 IMO. Now, you should all
feel much better. : -)
"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:44331727@linux...
> Jesus Neil, quit complaining. I can't find a Win XP driver for my Opcode
> SonicPort and eBay just changed my password. Damn, I can't bid on a pair
of
> pants. Let's put things in perspective, ok. Seriously, sorry to hear about
> the major difficulties. Oh bad luck comes in threes. Did three bad things
> happen yet?:-)
>
> Rich
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44331378$1@linux...
> >
> > Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
> > something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
> > someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
> > THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
> >
> > So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
> > only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
> > using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
> > swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
> > bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
> > something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
> > impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
> > put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
> > out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
> > can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
> > cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
> > sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
> > the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
> > time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
> > valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
> > Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
> > thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
> > of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
> > they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
> > them out a check this past Monday morning.
> >
> > Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
> > bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
> > she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
> > or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
> > them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
> > & grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
> > pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
> > she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
> > Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
> > it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
> > wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
> > from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
> > so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
> > the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
> > the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
> > insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
> > for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
> > which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
> > tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
> > valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
> > repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
> > that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
> > valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
> > right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
> > time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
> > years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
> > this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
> > "Fuck"
> > "Indeed"
> > (OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
> > if he did) :)
> > Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
> > kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
> > line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
> > through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
> > grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
> > nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
> > wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
> > the end of that pipe in either case.
> >
> > Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
> >
> > Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
> > hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
> > So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
> > damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
> > hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
> > so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
> > half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
> > right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
> > course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
> > that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
> > being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
> > thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
> > for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
> > also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
> > Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
> > to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
> > this shit done).
> >
> > This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
> > imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
> > but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
> >
> > And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
> > valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
> > two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
> > streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
> >
> > AUUUGGGH!!!!
> >
> > I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
> > out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
> >
> > Neil, lamenting his circumstances
>
>
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| Re: OT: When it rains... [message #66138 is a reply to message #66126] |
Tue, 04 April 2006 21:14 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Well, if it makes you feel better I did get a morbid giggle out of your dillema,
and now, of course, I feel guilty for laughing at another's misfortune, and
don't know what to do about my guilt.
With any luck my wobbly toilet, which I'm hoping will make it to the rental
inspection in two weeks, will collapse and spill poo on my foot, and then
I will know karma has come to get me and I can stop feeling guilty.
Meanwhile, best of luck to you and your daughter... and try and think of
your motel stay like a holiday. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
>something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
>someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
>THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
>
>So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
>only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
>using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
>swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
>bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
>something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
>impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
>put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
>out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
>can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
>cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
>sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
>the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
>time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
>valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
>Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
>thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
>of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
>they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
>them out a check this past Monday morning.
>
>Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
>bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
>she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
>or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
>them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
>& grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
>pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
>she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
>Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
>it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
>wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
>from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
>so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
>the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
>the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
>insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
>for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
>which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
>tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
>valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
>repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
>that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
>valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
>right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
>time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
>years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
>this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
>"Fuck"
>"Indeed"
>(OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
>if he did) :)
>Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
>kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
>line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
>through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
>grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
>nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
>wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
>the end of that pipe in either case.
>
>Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
>
>Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
>hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
>So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
>damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
>hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
>so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
>half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
>right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
>course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
>that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
>being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
>thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
>for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
>also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
>Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
>to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
>this shit done).
>
>This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
>imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
>but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
>
>And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
>valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
>two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
>streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
>
>AUUUGGGH!!!!
>
>I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
>out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
>
>Neil, lamenting his circumstances
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| Re: OT: When it rains... [message #66139 is a reply to message #66138] |
Tue, 04 April 2006 21:44 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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More gear willmake this go away, I tell you.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4433443c$1@linux...
>
>
> Well, if it makes you feel better I did get a morbid giggle out of your
dillema,
> and now, of course, I feel guilty for laughing at another's misfortune,
and
> don't know what to do about my guilt.
>
> With any luck my wobbly toilet, which I'm hoping will make it to the
rental
> inspection in two weeks, will collapse and spill poo on my foot, and then
> I will know karma has come to get me and I can stop feeling guilty.
>
> Meanwhile, best of luck to you and your daughter... and try and think of
> your motel stay like a holiday. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >
> >Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
> >something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
> >someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
> >THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
> >
> >So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
> >only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
> >using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
> >swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
> >bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
> >something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
> >impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
> >put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
> >out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
> >can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
> >cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
> >sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
> >the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
> >time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
> >valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
> >Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
> >thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
> >of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
> >they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
> >them out a check this past Monday morning.
> >
> >Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
> >bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
> >she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
> >or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
> >them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
> >& grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
> >pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
> >she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
> >Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
> >it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
> >wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
> >from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
> >so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
> >the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
> >the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
> >insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
> >for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
> >which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
> >tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
> >valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
> >repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
> >that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
> >valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
> >right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
> >time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
> >years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
> >this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
> >"Fuck"
> >"Indeed"
> >(OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
> >if he did) :)
> >Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
> >kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
> >line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
> >through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
> >grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
> >nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
> >wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
> >the end of that pipe in either case.
> >
> >Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
> >
> >Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
> >hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
> >So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
> >damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
> >hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
> >so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
> >half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
> >right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
> >course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
> >that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
> >being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
> >thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
> >for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
> >also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
> >Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
> >to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
> >this shit done).
> >
> >This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
> >imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
> >but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
> >
> >And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
> >valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
> >two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
> >streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
> >
> >AUUUGGGH!!!!
> >
> >I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
> >out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
> >
> >Neil, lamenting his circumstances
>
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| Re: OT: When it rains... [message #66144 is a reply to message #66126] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 02:34 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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big deal. i recently bought a pair of shoes and the laces weren't
installed evenly...talk about a tale of woe...man, i'll tell you
what...
On 5 Apr 2006 10:46:48 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
>something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
>someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
>THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
>
>So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
>only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
>using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
>swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
>bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
>something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
>impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
>put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
>out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
>can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
>cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
>sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
>the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
>time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
>valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
>Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
>thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
>of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
>they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
>them out a check this past Monday morning.
>
>Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
>bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
>she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
>or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
>them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
>& grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
>pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
>she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
>Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
>it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
>wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
>from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
>so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
>the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
>the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
>insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
>for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
>which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
>tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
>valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
>repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
>that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
>valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
>right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
>time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
>years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
>this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
>"Fuck"
>"Indeed"
>(OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
>if he did) :)
>Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
>kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
>line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
>through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
>grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
>nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
>wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
>the end of that pipe in either case.
>
>Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
>
>Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
>hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
>So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
>damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
>hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
>so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
>half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
>right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
>course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
>that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
>being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
>thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
>for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
>also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
>Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
>to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
>this shit done).
>
>This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
>imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
>but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
>
>And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
>valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
>two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
>streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
>
>AUUUGGGH!!!!
>
>I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
>out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
>
>Neil, lamenting his circumstances
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| Re: OT: When it rains... [message #66151 is a reply to message #66144] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 06:19 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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I think Jim Williams has a mod that can fix uneven shoelaces.
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:om37329m6kil6uu6saclb19u336ubto2db@4ax.com...
> big deal. i recently bought a pair of shoes and the laces weren't
> installed evenly...talk about a tale of woe...man, i'll tell you
> what...
>
> On 5 Apr 2006 10:46:48 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
> >something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
> >someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
> >THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
> >
> >So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
> >only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
> >using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
> >swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
> >bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
> >something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
> >impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
> >put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
> >out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
> >can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
> >cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
> >sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
> >the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
> >time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
> >valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
> >Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
> >thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
> >of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
> >they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
> >them out a check this past Monday morning.
> >
> >Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
> >bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
> >she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
> >or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
> >them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
> >& grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
> >pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
> >she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
> >Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
> >it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
> >wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
> >from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
> >so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
> >the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
> >the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
> >insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
> >for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
> >which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
> >tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
> >valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
> >repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
> >that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
> >valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
> >right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
> >time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
> >years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
> >this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
> >"Fuck"
> >"Indeed"
> >(OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
> >if he did) :)
> >Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
> >kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
> >line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
> >through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
> >grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
> >nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
> >wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
> >the end of that pipe in either case.
> >
> >Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
> >
> >Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
> >hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
> >So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
> >damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
> >hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
> >so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
> >half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
> >right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
> >course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
> >that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
> >being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
> >thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
> >for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
> >also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
> >Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
> >to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
> >this shit done).
> >
> >This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
> >imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
> >but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
> >
> >And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
> >valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
> >two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
> >streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
> >
> >AUUUGGGH!!!!
> >
> >I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
> >out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
> >
> >Neil, lamenting his circumstances
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| Re: OT: When it rains... [message #66159 is a reply to message #66151] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 08:35 |
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shoot me his number okay...
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:19:37 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I think Jim Williams has a mod that can fix uneven shoelaces.
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:om37329m6kil6uu6saclb19u336ubto2db@4ax.com...
>> big deal. i recently bought a pair of shoes and the laces weren't
>> installed evenly...talk about a tale of woe...man, i'll tell you
>> what...
>>
>> On 5 Apr 2006 10:46:48 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
>> >something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
>> >someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
>> >THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
>> >
>> >So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
>> >only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
>> >using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
>> >swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
>> >bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
>> >something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
>> >impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
>> >put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
>> >out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
>> >can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
>> >cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
>> >sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
>> >the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
>> >time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
>> >valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
>> >Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
>> >thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
>> >of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
>> >they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
>> >them out a check this past Monday morning.
>> >
>> >Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
>> >bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
>> >she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
>> >or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
>> >them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
>> >& grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
>> >pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
>> >she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
>> >Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
>> >it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
>> >wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
>> >from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
>> >so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
>> >the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
>> >the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
>> >insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
>> >for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
>> >which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
>> >tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
>> >valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
>> >repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
>> >that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
>> >valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
>> >right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
>> >time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
>> >years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
>> >this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
>> >"Fuck"
>> >"Indeed"
>> >(OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
>> >if he did) :)
>> >Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
>> >kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
>> >line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
>> >through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
>> >grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
>> >nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
>> >wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
>> >the end of that pipe in either case.
>> >
>> >Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
>> >
>> >Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
>> >hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
>> >So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
>> >damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
>> >hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
>> >so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
>> >half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
>> >right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
>> >course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
>> >that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
>> >being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
>> >thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
>> >for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
>> >also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
>> >Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
>> >to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
>> >this shit done).
>> >
>> >This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
>> >imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
>> >but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
>> >
>> >And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
>> >valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
>> >two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
>> >streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
>> >
>> >AUUUGGGH!!!!
>> >
>> >I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
>> >out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
>> >
>> >Neil, lamenting his circumstances
>>
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| Re: When it rains... [message #66161 is a reply to message #66148] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 08:41 |
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i believe that it is called (for any race) a bubble butt...err..what
you describe yours as...or as you say was described to you by a (wink
wink) mates "girlfriend"...oooookay fine.
On 5 Apr 2006 22:02:02 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Well seeing as how we're on the subject...
>
>...and feeling somewhat uncertain we should be here, but continuing against
>my better judgement... ;o)
>
>...my ass isn't yet the wobbling type I don't think. It's still fairly muscle
>bound. Indeed a mate's girlfriend recently described my ass as "a black person's
>butt". Not that I'm particularily aware of what the asses of different races
>are like, but generally I consider those of darker skin to be more toned
>than us generally flabby white folk, and mine pokes out a bit, but in a defined
>way... ...I think I'll shut up now. ;o)
>
>Now my stomach on the other hand needs some work... ;o)
>
>...but I'm thinking it's the beer, and I'm not likely to give that up. ;o)
>
>...but I can assure you the problem is the toilet. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>
>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:ki37325qhes310tulg9d0lt84v8avdsn71@4ax.com...
>>> you know it's really probably due to aging (you, not the toilet) and
>>> it's your ass that's wobbling>
>>>
>>> sorry but the truth is often sad...
>>>
>>You'd be describing the former ass size of our house mate (and one of the
>
>>reasons it became wobbly prematurely...(he has since dropped over 80 lbs)
>>
>>I on the other hand have what my better half describes as a "cute little
>
>>butt"
>>
>>Yes I know more information than you need but hey, you brought it up!
>>
>>heeehehehehehehe
>>
>>Don
>>
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| Re: OT: When it rains... [message #66168 is a reply to message #66126] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 08:58 |
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Head shakin' sad story bud! But I've been there also recently, with
everything but the solar panels. If it wasn't for a good friend helping
me I'd'ave been euchred, that is to say, totally screwed. He pretty much
let me just sit and watch and keep him company while he did all the
work. I was also in charge of the beer that I was paying him in..lol..
I hope your saga ends well. Peace.
j
Neil wrote:
>Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
>something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
>someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
>THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
>
>So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
>only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
>using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
>swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
>bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
>something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
>impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
>put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
>out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
>can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
>cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
>sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
>the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
>time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
>valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
>Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
>thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
>of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
>they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
>them out a check this past Monday morning.
>
>Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
>bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
>she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
>or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
>them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
>& grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
>pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
>she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
>Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
>it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
>wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
>from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
>so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
>the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
>the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
>insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
>for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
>which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
>tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
>valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
>repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
>that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
>valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
>right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
>time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
>years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
>this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
>"Fuck"
>"Indeed"
>(OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
>if he did) :)
>Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
>kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
>line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
>through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
>grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
>nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
>wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
>the end of that pipe in either case.
>
>Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
>
>Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
>hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
>So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
>damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
>hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
>so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
>half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
>right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
>course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
>that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
>being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
>thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
>for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
>also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
>Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
>to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
>this shit done).
>
>This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
>imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
>but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
>
>And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
>valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
>two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
>streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
>
>AUUUGGGH!!!!
>
>I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
>out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
>
>Neil, lamenting his circumstances
>
>
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| Re: When it rains... [message #66180 is a reply to message #66136] |
Wed, 05 April 2006 11:11 |
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i bought a mac...then, and only god knows why i bought another after
the first one crossed over...nobody knows the troubles i've
seen...sob...sob...long sigh...
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:28:17 -0500, "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com>
wrote:
>Speaking of rain, or in this case water, I can tell you a little about going
>off to another city for a Christmas party, and getting home the next day to
>a house with a broken water pipe upstairs with water still running and the
>entire lower floor flooded, needing new hardwood floors, wallboard,
>ceilings, fixtures, etc, and the bad thing was that we pulled out the carpet
>and hung it over the fences to let it dry out and somebody stole it! And
>the really bad thing was that the house was covered for flood damage, unless
>of course it was the result of a broken water pipe!!! I won't even mention
>the repair costs. This adds up to more than 3 IMO. Now, you should all
>feel much better. : -)
>
>"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:44331727@linux...
>> Jesus Neil, quit complaining. I can't find a Win XP driver for my Opcode
>> SonicPort and eBay just changed my password. Damn, I can't bid on a pair
>of
>> pants. Let's put things in perspective, ok. Seriously, sorry to hear about
>> the major difficulties. Oh bad luck comes in threes. Did three bad things
>> happen yet?:-)
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44331378$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Not so much a rant to bitch about the situation, but more
>> > something to provide you guys with some entertainment through
>> > someone else's misery (can't let Deej have exclusive rights to
>> > THAT territory, now can I? LOL)!
>> >
>> > So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm vacuuming the pool (which I've
>> > only done a few times all winter), getting it ready to start
>> > using again, because we live in the desert & soon it'll be
>> > swimming weather and I notice that the filter pump is leaking a
>> > bit - I decide to pull it apart & see if it's a gasket or
>> > something I can fix - turns out to appear to be coming from the
>> > impeller seal, oh well, I don't have the tools for that, so I
>> > put it back together & call a pool service company - they come
>> > out a couple days later & say tha's indeed what it is, and they
>> > can order a couple parts & fix it the next weekend...
>> > cool. "Oh, and by the way, I notice that this 3-way valve that
>> > sends the water up to the solar heating panels is cracking on
>> > the outside... can you guys replace that at the same
>> > time?" "Sure, but you'll also need to replace these two check
>> > valves when you do that" "Ummmm... ok, can you get me a quote?"
>> > Guy calls back later with a quote... a few hundred for the whole
>> > thing... a bit more than I was prepared for, but not really out
>> > of line, so I say "Do it!" Nice folks - don't make me pay when
>> > they fix it, they send me a bill & when I receive it I send
>> > them out a check this past Monday morning.
>> >
>> > Monday night - last night - my daughter goes into the spare
>> > bedroom, which is her "office" (which she doesn't use much -
>> > she does all her school assignments on her laptop in her room
>> > or the living room & then prints them out as needed... some of
>> > them she uploads online in fact, and her professors access them
>> > & grade them there, and she gets her grades via e-mails -
>> > pretty slick, huh? Anyway, that's neither here nor there.), and
>> > she calls out: "Dad, there's water on the floor in this room!"
>> > Fuck... roof leak? It hasn't been raining, what the hell could
>> > it be, then I realize that the water heater closet is on the
>> > wall opposite that room... open it up, sure enough, leaking
>> > from the bottom of the water heater. It's gas (not electric),
>> > so I don't want to fuck with it... call the plumber, pay
>> > the "emergency call premium", and have him shut off the water &
>> > the gas... I drain it with a hose out the front door & call my
>> > insurance company to see if I'm covered. Turns out I'm covered
>> > for the damage the water caused, but not the plumbing itself,
>> > which I guess makes sense. Now here's the kicker... plumber
>> > tells me that new codes require a certain type of pressure
>> > valve to be installed any time they do maintenance, or
>> > repair/replace a water heater. I tell him "Wait, I just had
>> > that done last year, when you guys replaced this old gas inlet
>> > valve that quit working... it's this pressure relief valve
>> > right here, and it cost me an extra 200 bucks or so at the
>> > time." "Yes, sir that was a new CITY code implemented a couple
>> > years ago, this is a new STATE code that they just implemented
>> > this year... and it supercedes all city & municipal codes!"
>> > "Fuck"
>> > "Indeed"
>> > (OK, he didn't say "Indeed", but it would've been appropriate
>> > if he did) :)
>> > Anyway, so here's the worst part... in order to do this new
>> > kind of relief valve, they have to do one of two things - run a
>> > line from the hot water (output) side of my water heater, up
>> > through the roof, and down the front of the house to 6" above
>> > grade, OR, run a line from the hot water side of the sink
>> > nearest to the heater, then out through the nearest outside
>> > wall, and down to 6" above grade, then the relief valve goes on
>> > the end of that pipe in either case.
>> >
>> > Sounds like a shitload of labor in either case, right?
>> >
>> > Right... we all know you can get a water heater for a couple
>> > hundred bucks, right? Total quote for this job... $1,444.00.
>> > So, insurance will pay for the part of the carpet that's
>> > damaged due to water, but not the whole room; and some in the
>> > hallway is damaged too, but only a couple square feet of it...
>> > so I get to pay for all the rest (like I'm going to replace
>> > half a room's worth & 1/10 of a hallways worth of carpet,
>> > right? Like you could actually get away with that.), and if
>> > course, I have to pay for all of the plumbing work, since
>> > that's not covered. There's mold in the carpet now, and it's
>> > being dried out by one of those companies that does that sort of
>> > thing, but my daughter & I are going to be staying in a hotel
>> > for a couple of days due to health concerns with the mold, and
>> > also because of no hot water at the house at this time.
>> > Insurance wil pay for a couple of days of that, but it's going
>> > to take longer than that (4 days it's looking like) to get all
>> > this shit done).
>> >
>> > This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
>> > imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
>> > but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
>> >
>> > And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
>> > valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
>> > two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
>> > streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
>> >
>> > AUUUGGGH!!!!
>> >
>> > I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
>> > out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
>> >
>> > Neil, lamenting his circumstances
>>
>>
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Thu, 06 April 2006 01:37 |
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ewwww...thanks for the new visual...
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:44:22 -0400, Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Wow! I should think that when your housemate dropped 80 lbs, the
>toilet wouldn't just wobble, but actually explode!
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:39:45 -0400, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:ki37325qhes310tulg9d0lt84v8avdsn71@4ax.com...
>>> you know it's really probably due to aging (you, not the toilet) and
>>> it's your ass that's wobbling>
>>>
>>> sorry but the truth is often sad...
>>>
>>You'd be describing the former ass size of our house mate (and one of the
>>reasons it became wobbly prematurely...(he has since dropped over 80 lbs)
>>
>>I on the other hand have what my better half describes as a "cute little
>>butt"
>>
>>Yes I know more information than you need but hey, you brought it up!
>>
>>heeehehehehehehe
>>
>>Don
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| Re: OT: When it rains... [message #66283 is a reply to message #66278] |
Fri, 07 April 2006 06:59 |
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Woohah...
Reminds me of the time... err... one of the times I went four wheel driving
in my Kingswood.
A Kingswood is, well, a classic Holden... Holden being the first ever Australian
car manufacturer, now owned by GM. This particular Kingswood was built in
1978, and you can, for the sake of comparison, superimpose an American built
1978 big steel station wagon. Clearly a 2 wheel drive car not designed for
climbing mountains.
Indeed, the car looked almost identical to this one...
http://members.tripod.com/~big_tom/wilmawagon.html
....but without the Photoshopped crocodile.
Anyhow...
A good friend of mine, Sir Gus Funk, was driving an XD Ford Sedan, and had
climbed this hill in it. Suffice to say my Kingswood had aquired a reputation
for 4X4 performance, and I was not to be out done, so off I went up said
hill.
About 3/4 of the way up I discovered that it wasn't going to be as easy as
I'd hoped. I had arrived at the camp site fully loaded, and still had four
people in the car, so I backed it into a little run off half way up the hill,
and unloaded all the gear, and two of the people, by the road side. Hence
hoping just me, an empty car and one other person might make it up the hill.
Alas it didn't turn out. The car struggled and struggled and couldn't get
past about 20 feet short of the top of the hill. Short of where the Ford
had made it. (Ford being the arch enemy of Holden).
But the worst shock came a second later, when I discovered that not only
would it not make it to the top, but it also wouldn't stop. The hill was
largely clay, and the car had decided it was going down, which was fine,
but 200 feet down the road reached a T intersection, and if I kept going
straight, it would be straight over the edge and into oblivion, and a river.
Suffice to say a very delicate balance was struck. I would lock the brakes,
slide almost off the road, release the brakes a little and get back on the
road, lock the brakes again, all the time never really slowing, but not getting
noticably quicker either. I travelled at about 20 m/h down the hill backwards
for 200 feet, hooking the wheel at the last minute at the T intersection,
and coming within a foot or so of slipping over the edge and into the river
below.
Anyhow, that's one of my Kingswood stories.
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Nope.....but I did almost slide off a muddly hill in a rainstorm two days
>ago. I was out in the boonies in a rented Dodge Durango because my Honda
>Passport is in the shop and this behemouth was so heavy that it's momentum
>broke traction about halfway down on a wet clay road with about a 15% grade.
>there was a switchback about 200' from this point with about a 200' drop
to
>a rocky valley floor and no guardrail and the truck was merrily headed that
>way with the ABS wsystem doing absolutely nothing. the slick mud was like
>sliding on ice. I had the drivers side door open getting ready to bail out
>when I was able to get the wheels in a couple of deep ruts and high center
>the damn thing to stop it. That's my *when it rains* story.
>
>;o)
>
>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>news:44rb32tikmp9v5c4vv3js8smuhj1bt7ebr@4ax.com...
>> On 5 Apr 2006 10:46:48 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >This is simple, and it's costing me a bundle... I can only
>> >imagine what the people whose houses were screwed up,
>> >but not completely flooded out, by Katrina are going through.
>> >
>> >And now that the pool filter's up & running, and I'm using the
>> >valve for the solar panels again, I notice that there are now
>> >two leaks coming from the solar panels themselves & water is
>> >streaming down the back of the roof when that valve is engaged.
>> >
>> >AUUUGGGH!!!!
>> >
>> >I don't even want to tell you about the picture window that blew
>> >out during a windstorm about six weeks ago.
>> >
>>
>> Deej? You move out to Texas? Hello?
>>
>> ;-P
>>
>> pab
>
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