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The possibility of a new NG ISP... [message #88524] Wed, 25 July 2007 04:49 Go to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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OK here's the deal.

I've been trying to speed up my net connection here, waiting for my provider
to get their act together, and alas and alac they have just released some
details about their future plans with regard to higher speeds which I am
not altogether happy with.

Hence I am seriously considering changing ISP's. Before I do so I will be
checking in detail the reliablity of their services and the like to ensure
that we are likely to have a service at least as reliable as what we have
had here to date.

What this might mean:

(*) Faster NG speed (Four times the upload speed)
(*) A short NG outage of a few hours to a day while the changeover occurs.

Yes, yes, I know, DJ will probably die and all, but if we distract him for
a while I'm sure he'll survive.

Anybody have any comments? I guess I feel obliged to check these things out
before I make any moves. I'm not convinced as of yet, but I'm considering
it very seriously, and only have about 48 hours if I want to save myself
fees on the move.

Cheers,
Kim.
Re: The possibility of a new NG ISP... [message #88525 is a reply to message #88524] Wed, 25 July 2007 04:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>(*) Faster NG speed (Four times the upload speed)

Oh, that's 4 x the download speed for you guys. You guys upload from me of
course, so...

Cheers,
Kim.
Re: The possibility of a new NG ISP... [message #88529 is a reply to message #88525] Wed, 25 July 2007 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Sounds good to me bro. Is it possible to leave the backup server running on
'this' ISP while connnecting the normal server to the other to limit time
down?
If it's a headache don't sweat it, I'll send Deej Accordian for Dummies and
ask him how to output 44.1 and 88.2 sample rate direct at the same time for
neil's tests to keep his attention for a few hours.

AA

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a7393b$1@linux...
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>(*) Faster NG speed (Four times the upload speed)
>
> Oh, that's 4 x the download speed for you guys. You guys upload from me of
> course, so...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
Re: The possibility of a new NG ISP... [message #88532 is a reply to message #88529] Wed, 25 July 2007 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Is it possible to leave the backup server running on
>'this' ISP while connnecting the normal server to the other to limit time

>down?

Well both servers run off the same ISP, so...

What I could do however is to set the backup server up temporarily on somebody
else's connection, say, my brothers, for a short period. The NNTP feed would
likely have to go however as the post numbers don't line up between the two,
but we could have web interface running on the second server throughout the
event. I'd certainly seriously consider this especially if the outage was
likely to be more than 24 hours. I know people rely on this group at times
for support, so if the delay was to be considerable then this would be a
serious option.

In all likelyhood however the outage would be between about 12am and 8am
GMT, assuming Doug Wellington (who still owns the parisnewsgroup.com domain)
can change the DNS record as soon as I advise him of the new IP. I haven't
heard from him for a while so I'll have to shoot him an email and see what
the deal is there. Either way, our ISP's tend to be asleep while you guys
are at work, so the change is likely to be outside your work time.

It would be a bit of a muck around to move the backup server and reconfigure
it to grab the posts across the network, but at the same time it would be
a kinda cool thing to do. :o) And it would be a good test fot the server
as it's never been responsible for actually running the group before.

Cheers,
Kim.
Re: The possibility of a new NG ISP... [message #88552 is a reply to message #88532] Wed, 25 July 2007 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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Just letting you all know that at this stage it looks like I'll be going
ahead with this ISP change. More details to come, but currently it's all
go.

It will probably mean an outage of some sort (perhaps NNTP outage with continued
web service) in about a weeks time.

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Is it possible to leave the backup server running on
>>'this' ISP while connnecting the normal server to the other to limit time
>
>>down?
>
>Well both servers run off the same ISP, so...
>
>What I could do however is to set the backup server up temporarily on somebody
>else's connection, say, my brothers, for a short period. The NNTP feed would
>likely have to go however as the post numbers don't line up between the
two,
>but we could have web interface running on the second server throughout
the
>event. I'd certainly seriously consider this especially if the outage was
>likely to be more than 24 hours. I know people rely on this group at times
>for support, so if the delay was to be considerable then this would be a
>serious option.
>
>In all likelyhood however the outage would be between about 12am and 8am
>GMT, assuming Doug Wellington (who still owns the parisnewsgroup.com domain)
>can change the DNS record as soon as I advise him of the new IP. I haven't
>heard from him for a while so I'll have to shoot him an email and see what
>the deal is there. Either way, our ISP's tend to be asleep while you guys
>are at work, so the change is likely to be outside your work time.
>
>It would be a bit of a muck around to move the backup server and reconfigure
>it to grab the posts across the network, but at the same time it would be
>a kinda cool thing to do. :o) And it would be a good test fot the server
>as it's never been responsible for actually running the group before.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
Re: The possibility of a new NG ISP... [message #88557 is a reply to message #88552] Thu, 26 July 2007 00:57 Go to previous message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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Registered: October 2005
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Just another update...

Annoyingly it looks as if the internet changeover would take about a week.
That being the case the backup server would be configured in web only mode
at another residence for access over this time. Hence we would be a web only
group temporarily for a week or so...

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Just letting you all know that at this stage it looks like I'll be going
>ahead with this ISP change. More details to come, but currently it's all
>go.
>
>It will probably mean an outage of some sort (perhaps NNTP outage with continued
>web service) in about a weeks time.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Is it possible to leave the backup server running on
>>>'this' ISP while connnecting the normal server to the other to limit time
>>
>>>down?
>>
>>Well both servers run off the same ISP, so...
>>
>>What I could do however is to set the backup server up temporarily on somebody
>>else's connection, say, my brothers, for a short period. The NNTP feed
would
>>likely have to go however as the post numbers don't line up between the
>two,
>>but we could have web interface running on the second server throughout
>the
>>event. I'd certainly seriously consider this especially if the outage was
>>likely to be more than 24 hours. I know people rely on this group at times
>>for support, so if the delay was to be considerable then this would be
a
>>serious option.
>>
>>In all likelyhood however the outage would be between about 12am and 8am
>>GMT, assuming Doug Wellington (who still owns the parisnewsgroup.com domain)
>>can change the DNS record as soon as I advise him of the new IP. I haven't
>>heard from him for a while so I'll have to shoot him an email and see what
>>the deal is there. Either way, our ISP's tend to be asleep while you guys
>>are at work, so the change is likely to be outside your work time.
>>
>>It would be a bit of a muck around to move the backup server and reconfigure
>>it to grab the posts across the network, but at the same time it would
be
>>a kinda cool thing to do. :o) And it would be a good test fot the server
>>as it's never been responsible for actually running the group before.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>
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